Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by Smittithekitty, Aug 5, 2017.
Finally in the US safe at home
Looks great, congrats. Did you buy it from TF in the States, of the machines used at the Citi Open?
Yes, just unloaded our Other machines and this was an easy decision being this was in next to perfect condition
Good stuff. Mind revealing what it's replacing?
We have a Sensor but we trave a lot
The ergo one is perfect to travel
I'll get more pic and review soon
This is the machine I'd love to have
Post some more pics @Smittithekitty
Great thanks @Smittithekitty
I wonder if it is as good as a Stringway.
Not a chance!
Which pro is stringing at 8.8#?
Jeez... and I thought Daniel Nestor's sticks were low, at #18 & 20lbs., but 8.8lbs.?
You sure it's not 8.8 kilos (which would be ~19.5 lbs.)?
Ok... I give up. Who?
Doesn't have to be anyone. Maybe @Smittithekitty is just showing, "How low it can Go."
That may be the tension to add to a pull for knots - 4 Kilos = 8.8 pounds; if I had to guess.
In all speculations haha
So it's not locked in with a certain tension unlike
Other machines that has an up / down button to raise or low tension. The Ergo one requires you to punch in the number and you're good to go.
The 8.8 is the lowest tension for pounds apparently.
So if you just accidentally punched in 52 and forgot the last 0 (3 digits required) it will show up at 5.2 pounds
I think I just tapped the activator and it moved to 8.8 as "how low it can go"
This machine after a week at home...
It doesn't have the bells and whistles like many modern machines.
However, the quality and built is one of the best I have ever worked on (compared to Baiardo, Sensor, P7000)
The craftsmanship and details such as lazer etched marking and solid iron cast turn table.
It was made purely for traveling stringers who wanted tournament/pro grade machinerary.
It's very very simple and for minimalists/functionality
One button switch for Kg/Pounds ( some machines requires to go through another menu )
Just a push of a button simple! Specially when you work at tournaments besides the US most strings in kg. It also converts it for you too, from kg to pounds and pounds to kg
Tie off which is standard with a press of a button
Cross string option
And the pre stretch goes by 5s in %
Is it worth the $6k retail???
If I had to buy it brand new and shipped it would not be a good buy.
I could had bought 2 pre owned Baiardo or 2 New Alpha Ghost and called it a day.
But I do travel often enough to justify a lighter and more mobile unit. You can always buy a Baiardo or Alpha. But don't forget this was made in France. Handcrafted quality. It's built solid. You can tell instantly. You can set this up / tear down in less than 5-7 mins... It's really plug and play.
We had a had chance for the Babolat Modular Machine for around the same price for the basic verison. We decided this was a good buy. Hope you guys enjoyed the photos
When I was at BotW tourney recently, the NorCal Tecnifibre rep stopped by. We asked how much for their stringing machines. He couldn't give us a straight answer.
That was that, as far as I was concerned.
If I spent $6k on a machine, it would take me two years to pay it off. And that's hoping not a single thing goes wrong during that time period. I agree @Smittithekitty , these prices are getting ridiculous and are not comparable to the cost of the service the machine provides. I guess unless they're used exclusively for pro events where stringing labor costs $30 or so.
I sure would like to see their Ergo Pro ATP in person though someday. The rep alluded to an $11k price tag on that one.
For the ERGO ATP
Nothing too crazy that you justify that price either. They wanted 7-8K for a tournament used one. Don't forget these are made in France... Not mass produce so they hold a higher status and good customer service and warranty.
Besides a string measure on the bottom that I have seen no stringer use and lcd and saving function. Everything is still the same. Maybe a electronic height adjustment and more touch screen. Seems like more things that can go wrong. Sometime I hate these new digital lcd and touch screen machine however they are pretty.
Hold up a second....
You chose to start your own thread (despite their already being a 'Post Pictures of Your Stringer' thread) so you could advertise your cool/awesome/sweet stringer purchase.......
But then you post it up on **** to sell it?
After you JUST got done saying "is it worth the $6k retail? No haha".....you're asking $5800.
Not sure how much I'd pay for a used one when you can buy them new for $4,674.05. It pays to shop around more often than not.
EDIT: Thanks to @Herb for that information.
To answer many questions
This post was made more to do a slight review after I got it and used for a week or so.
The bay was to test water as the fees are high and shipping I figure that would justify the price. Many don't have access to resources nor like Irvin said shop around.
We sold one of our pre owned Baiardo machine with only 900 racquets to a random for 4400$ on c list... We know you can get a pre owned one plus string option for less than that but Some people hate waiting and impulsive buyers.
We got a pretty good deal through Tecnifibre at the time and was prepared to keep it if we don't sell.
We love it for it's traveling capability but if I can turn it for a couple hundreds why not
Almost everyone who has access to the internet has the same access I have. Google the machine you want and click shopping it it doesn't pop up right at the top.
BTW a new Wilson Baiardo is $4,055.30.
My Tecnifibre, well SP (Spenle Pizzeria) at that time, is over 30 year old. In a 100% perfect condition. Paid back its cost many times.
WOW,, are these as good as top of the line Babolat or Yonex machines ?
The question to ask is why do you say Babolat and Yonex are top of the line?
Plus another 10% for shipping.
Call a spade a spade! =)
Babolat because World's top stringers all use Babolat, like P1 and ****. and Yonex cause they are the most expensive
R P N Y doesn't use a Babolat machine.
Yonex isn't even close to being the most expensive. Doesn't mean it isn't a contender for the title of the best.
I don't even understand how this is up for discussion.
Hasn't it been established that Stringway is obviously the BEST?
Proven scientific fact.
what is stringway ?
Let's not get the main fanboi (mathieu), the undercover would-be nuclear engineer (fred), and all the other Stringway shills out of the woodwork!
Ok the price is a little more than I quoted when you go to the web site, but the shipping was only $274.95. Machine and shipping is just over $4,400. Still, a big savings over buying this machine (Wilson Baiardo) from a US supplier, and the Baiardo is about $600 cheaper than the Ergo One.
EDIT: All I'm trying to point out is it may save you some money shopping around. I'm not so sure I'd really want either machine if I were in the market. But if I were I'd consider them all and shop for the best deal and even consider used machines if available.
Yonex (as far as I know) and Wilson are relatively new on the market. They will have to prove them self in the looooooooong run.
The Japanese company manufacturing the Yonex machine has a long and proven track record.
The Baiardo clamps are sort of crappy.
If anything Babolat probably needs to prove itself once again after going from making machines such as the Star 3 and Star 4, to making machines such as the Star 5 and Sensor.
Compared to other machines in it's class, I agree. I will say though, that the clamp design on the Baiardo has been updated. For me, so far, the updated clamp design has translated to better operation (compared to the original clamps).
Surely it's a matter of time before all the pro stringing teams face this fact. Then we'll see Stringway machines dominate the stringing rooms at pro events, right?
Pro stringing teams have nothing to do with it. Manufacturers pay a pretty penny to become the "Official Stringer" at some elite events. Maybe some people think the Grand Slam events choose the stringing teams based on the machines and stringers, but I don't. Stringers just join the team, get a free tee shirt (hopefully,) and work their fingers off. AND the stringers get to say, "I'm on the stringing team."
EDIT: Just my guess I could be wrong.
@Irvin - I was being facetious.
I remember someone calling for a truce. 1 of the 2 has not broken that truce. Why not just let sleeping dogs lie?
@Irvin - Truce? I don't know what scares me more: the idea that I might have given in, or that I don't remember doing so...
Man I was Phew!
Irvin: I don't think its that way.Stringers just don't join the team, they go through a good process to be chosen
Here is a good story on how the 1st Wilson string team got put together.
there was also a radio interview with stringer joe Heydt a while back, and it told of all he had to do to become a slam stringer and it was no picnic.Unfortunatley that radio link is no longer on the internet.
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