MattCrosby
Professional
When can we access the new stencils?
Tecnifibre Official - Racquets
MarioRich
Rookie
Thanks for your reply!! Based on specs, stiffness, design and weight looks like a real winner!! Congrats and hope you can do a 16X19 in the future (or a TFight 305 16X19)!Hi MarioRich. Thank you for the kind words. I wish I could take credit for the design. We have a great R&D and design team and they've been killing it lately. While the TF40 Series will have the lowest stiffness rating of all our frames today, I would prefer to let Tennis Warehouse take the lead here so all the specs are consistent and more helpful when you compare against other frames. I hope this makes sense for your needs.
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Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Tecnifibre Official
Rookie
Hi MattCrosby. Soon, I hope! I haven’t received any yet either, and my hand cut ones just aren’t making the grade. I cut and paint like a toddler
. Perhaps I’ll put out a post when they are available.MattCrosby
Professional
That would be great. I’m based in England. We had them at the grass tournaments this year but enough wasn’t supplied for us to take a couple home.Hi MattCrosby. Soon, I hope! I haven’t received any yet either, and my hand cut ones just aren’t making the grade. I cut and paint like a toddler
808
Semi-Pro
Will the new line of bags (Tour Endurance White) also launch on August 7th? In Europe, that is. Thanks!
Tecnifibre Official
Rookie
Hi 808, unfortunately I am unsure of the exact timeline in Europe. If it’s different, it would only be a slight. I’m sure you’ll be able to find them on/around August 7th. Happy shopping!
all-court-loser
Rookie
The new TF 40 and new bags are already being shipped from the warehouse in France to EU dealers so that they are ready for sale around the 7th of august.
thompenator
New User
Apollo have them in stock, both tennis and squash - mine arrived this morning.
MattCrosby
Professional
Cool! Thanks, I'll order some on monday.
CiscoPC600
Professional
Any TFIGHT 315 Ltd. XTC (16x19) users here?
I'm surprised most pros endorse the 305 since the 315 is beefier. I have one coming this week and I'm very excited based on the specs alone. Strung it up with Tour Bite at 55/52.
I'm surprised most pros endorse the 305 since the 315 is beefier. I have one coming this week and I'm very excited based on the specs alone. Strung it up with Tour Bite at 55/52.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
I suspect there are several reasons why they would endorse the TFight 305 XTC.
Firstly, the TFight 315 Ltd XTC is a totally different and very niche racquet to even the 315 XTC, let alone the 305 XTC. Second, the Pros endorse what the company thinks will sell the most, and therefore they would not want them to market the Ltd range (even though it may be what is under the paint job - in some cases). Thirdly, from the reviews of the racquets in the range, the 305 XTC made a much better and more favorable impression and most reviewers chose it over the other racquets in the range. This could be due to several factors, including a lower RA (and therefore better/ more comfortable feel), and a much larger sweet spot to other racquets in the range. Lastly, from the perspective of the Pros (if they are using the racquet at all in reality), a lighter racquet with a higher SW and more weight in the head is more preferable because it gives more scope for customization to their desired specs. You can add more weight in all areas without ending up with a racquet that is too heavy, and you don't need to place an enormous amount of Lead or Tungsten Tape on the head (as it is already quite stable to start with, but you can add a bit to further increase stability, TW, and sweet spot size). The racquet then becomes much more HL than standard making it very maneuverable and easy to achieve higher racquet head speed (as most of the weight added is in the handle or lower part of the racquet), yet has the mass to give it great plow through and ability to handle hard-hitting balls, and a high enough SW and TW to be stable from all areas of the court.
That's how I see things... and hopefully, that was helpful.
I'm not sure which racquet is coming to you (I presume the TFight 315 Ltd XTC as you asked about it first in your post, but then you started talking about the 305 and 315 - of which there is also a 315 XTC version), but I hope you enjoy it very much
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CiscoPC600
Professional
I suspect there are several reasons why they would endorse the TFight 305 XTC.
Firstly, the TFight 315 Ltd XTC is a totally different and very niche racquet to even the 315 XTC, let alone the 305 XTC. Second, the Pros endorse what the company thinks will sell the most, and therefore they would not want them to market the Ltd range (even though it may be what is under the paint job - in some cases). Thirdly, from the reviews of the racquets in the range, the 305 XTC made a much better and more favorable impression and most reviewers chose it over the other racquets in the range. This could be due to several factors, including a lower RA (and therefore better/ more comfortable feel), and a much larger sweet spot to other racquets in the range. Lastly, from the perspective of the Pros (if they are using the racquet at all in reality), a lighter racquet with a higher SW and more weight in the head is more preferable because it gives more scope for customization to their desired specs. You can add more weight in all areas without ending up with a racquet that is too heavy, and you don't need to place an enormous amount of Lead or Tungsten Tape on the head (as it is already quite stable to start with, but you can add a bit to further increase stability, TW, and sweet spot size). The racquet then becomes much more HL than standard making it very maneuverable and easy to achieve higher racquet head speed (as most of the weight added is in the handle or lower part of the racquet), yet has the mass to give it great plow through and ability to handle hard-hitting balls, and a high enough SW and TW to be stable from all areas of the court.
That's how I see things... and hopefully, that was helpful.
I'm not sure which racquet is coming to you (I presume the TFight 315 Ltd XTC as you asked about it first in your post, but then you started talking about the 305 and 315 - of which there is also a 315 XTC version), but I hope you enjoy it very much
Hmm. Technifibre needs to clean up their names.. What is the difference between the ATP 315 XTC and the LTD 315 XTC? Is the latter the previous generation? The LTD has the same specs except higher SW, lower RA, and thinner beam width.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Two totally different racquets. As you have pointed out, the Ltd has a lower RA, thinner beam (which is also a completely different shape)
The mould of the racquets is completely different (different shape), it also has a different layup (which is how the materials are arranged within the racquet itself. That would influence how the racquet behaves upon ball impact, where it flexes (in the head, the throat, or evenly throughout).
To answer your other question, The TFight 315 Ltd is Tecnifibre's copy of the Head PT57A Pro Stock racquet (known as Pro Tour 630 in its retail form - which is also heavier). The original 2013 version had even lower RA than the current version, silicone in the handle, Head grip pallets (which it still might - I don't have the latest version), and a Pro Stock Code (PT965A) on the Graphite pin (under the grip pallets). It is an amazing racquet that needs modification in its standard form (as it's Practically a Pro Stock frame). It was released in smaller quantities and hence the addition of Limited to the name.
At the same time, Tecnifibre produced a TFight 315 (non-Limited) model, which had a higher RA, probably a different layup of materials, a thicker Beam, and resulted in a racquet that felt quite different to play with. The ATP 315 XTC is the latest version of that racquet. The big difference is that in previous versions the Limited and Non-Limited versions looked similar but had different specs. In the current version, they have completely different appearances.
I'm not sure whether that is why Tecnifibre has now developed a new range which is about to be released (the TF40). This may become either a new model or the new name for what was the TFight 315 Limited. They may now "phase out" the TFight 315 Limited from the TFight lineup (LTD, and Ltd XTC in subsequent versions), keep the Non-Limited 315 XTC and continue the Limited as the TF40.
Not sure as there is not much info on the TF40 when it comes to the feel and RA (other than the actual specs - which seem similar to the 315 Limited but add a 305 version as well). They are going to market the TF40 as the Expert/ Tour level range or model, and downgrade the TFight XTC (and possibly future iterations) to the Intermediate/ Advanced Level of player. I'm excited to find out more about the TF40 which should be launching on the 7th of August.
Sorry for lengthy explanation and I hope it's helpful
CiscoPC600
Professional
Very helpful, and I’m glad I purchased the LTD XTC version then if it’s their version of the PT57a!
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
The only thing is that the 2013 version was softer (59RA for the 16x19) and the one you bought is 64RA (so probably less like PT57A and more like PT57E).
CiscoPC600
Professional
Overtime the RA lowers though right? So it's not too big of deal. I'm surprised that the obsession over the PT57A hasn't translated to making this LTD XTC version their best seller. Better for me though. $$
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
I think the industry trend for the last 10-15 years (until recently) has been increasing stiffness (RA), so it was purely for business reasons that they did not emphasize this model, as it may not have been that popular. Everybody was chasing Babolat and trying to make Pure Drive and Pure Aero copies.
Now, as the trend is changing and more companies are starting to produce lower RA racquets and emphasize the arm-friendly nature of their racquets, they are going to bring out this TF40 range and promote it. As I said, I'm not sure what the RA will be (I'm hoping lower), but they may test the waters with two different weights instead of just a 315g option, and if it goes well, produce a whole range that suddenly becomes the Flagship Range for the Pros (Expert/ Tour level), and the TFight range stays slightly stiffer, slightly thicker beamed, and promoted as the Intermediate/ Advanced range.
Remains to be seen.
MarioRich
Rookie
According to the official Tecnifibre account it will be their lowest RA Stiffness available...
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Can't wait to hear about it... not long to go and the launch will happen. I'm surprised TW hasn't done a "Sneak Peek" bit on YouTube... considering the launch should happen in just over a week (according to Tecnifibre)...
Now the trend seems to be... who can go lower with the RA...
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CiscoPC600
Professional
hi @Tecnifibre Official! can you give some more insight on the difference between the ATP XTC 315 and the LTD XTC 315? Your website has nothing on the latter.
JeanF
New User
I'm also very curious to more detailled information about the TF40 specs and a ''Sneak Peek'' from TW about it should be more than nice
So far I have heard some very positive sounds from the Tecnifibre representative in my country about the first playtesting impressions with the TF40....
The level of control and feel seems to be high and very impressive, according to the opinion of some contracted national Tecnifibre players who already had the chance to playtest the TF40.
The only less positive detail I heard was about the spin level, which should be less than the spin level of the TFight 305 XTC, but that has to do with the more dense 18x20 string pattern of course.
In my country the TF40 will be deliverable in shops in the end of August and if I will get the chance to playtest with it I will definitely do.
Till that time I still enjoying my TFight 305 XTC frames which are one of the most favorite rackets to me
Hankenstein
Hall of Fame
Hi @Tecnifibre Official
Will your racquets be reviewed by Jonas at the site Tennisnerd.net anytime soon? He makes some really great reviews!
Will your racquets be reviewed by Jonas at the site Tennisnerd.net anytime soon? He makes some really great reviews!
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Thanks for that information @JeanFI'm also very curious to more detailled information about the TF40 specs and a ''Sneak Peek'' from TW about it should be more than nice
So far I have heard some very positive sounds from the Tecnifibre representative in my country about the first playtesting impressions with the TF40....
The level of control and feel seems to be high and very impressive, according to the opinion of some contracted national Tecnifibre players who already had the chance to playtest the TF40.
The only less positive detail I heard was about the spin level, which should be less than the spin level of the TFight 305 XTC, but that has to do with the more dense 18x20 string pattern of course.
In my country the TF40 will be deliverable in shops in the end of August and if I will get the chance to playtest with it I will definitely do.
Till that time I still enjoying my TFight 305 XTC frames which are one of the most favorite rackets to me
I too have a TFight 305 XTC and have enjoyed hitting with it. I modified mine with a small amount of weight in the head (just to increase the stability, TW, and further increase an already large sweet spot), as well as, weight in the handle in order to make it more HL and easier to swing. It is a very impressive racquet.
I also have several 18x20 racquets, including the TFight 315 Limited (2013), so generating spin from an 18x20 pattern should not be a problem.
JeanF
New User
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Thanks for that... that would mean 61-62 RA strung... which is where the 2013 TFight 315 Limited was... except that the Beam thickness on the Limited was 20mm instead of the 21.7mm for the TF40, according to their product brochure.
Still looking forward to hearing some reviews.
mavsman149
Hall of Fame
Still not used to the new stencil on the pro's frames. I was a fan of the simple upside down triangle, but I get it that the new stencil does help increase visibility for advertisement purposes.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Are you going to have a little peek at the TF40 315g when it comes out, or not interested as it's an 18x20?
mavsman149
Hall of Fame
I love my 16x19’s, in the past I played with 18x20’s but I’m loving the extra spin! Is the TF 40 replacing the Limited’s?
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Not sure... but it's going to be their most control-oriented and lowest RA range. The Beam is going to be 21.7mm though instead of 20mm. RA rumored to be around 65 Unstrung for the 315 and 64 Unstrung for the 300g (which will also have more weight in the head). Both will be 18x20.
CiscoPC600
Professional
My new frame came in! I realize it’s the older model but the specs caught my attention.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
It's not the older model... it's the current model... The 2013 models are mostly Black and Red, the next model is mostly black with some red and blue, and then there are these which are the XTC version... which are still the current version of the TFight 315 Ltd racquets.
My new frame came in! I realize it’s the older model but the specs caught my attention.
TennisHound
Legend
Nice, looks like a Wilson Pro Stock H19 16x19
My new frame came in! I realize it’s the older model but the specs caught my attention.
CiscoPC600
Professional
Again, technifibre needs to clean up their lines. Shorten names. And make the differences clear. Their website has 0 info on the differences other than some basic specs. Your average rec player isn't on TW forum and researching/reading stuff like most here.
mavsman149
Hall of Fame
Do BMW’s and other luxury cars have simple names? No
Do toyota’s Have simple names? Yes
Tecnifibre is luxury
TennisHound
Legend
Wasn't Tecnifibre coming out with the Slobodan Zivojinovic XTC T-Fight Autograph (SZXTFA)?
mavsman149
Hall of Fame
I don’t know but it sounds super expensive and I’m here for it
CiscoPC600
Professional
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Ohh... I'm sorry to have to tell you this but you might be waiting for a while... I think that one has been retired for a skinnier, more flexible beam version... although he probably did enjoy quite a bit of XTC when he was released and was the current model
mavsman149
Hall of Fame
@Tecnifibre Official is the 315 LTD getting discontinued and replaced by the TF40?
Tecnifibre Official
Rookie
Hi mavsman. While the 315 LTD will not be carried forward, the new TF40 Series isn’t a direct replacement for the LTD. It is a very different frame and specs. It is due to be released soon, so hopefully you can get a chance to demo and let me know what you think! Thank you for the inquiry.
CiscoPC600
Professional
Why the decision to get rid of the poor man's PT57A? Not as popular?
On the same note, what was the idea behind the ATP vs. LTD versions? Not much description on your website.
DUROC
Professional
The LTD line was just that.......Limited. It was for the USA market only and a niche for TF for the folks that wanted a tour level stick that could be customized.
The new TF 40 line getting rave reviews and from many plays like an updated H19.
I know the folks at Tennis Warehouse had a test day a few weeks back and I’m gonna guess the reviews will be positive........dont be shocked if the 305 version gets all the rave reviews.
So far the TF 40 (305) version getting the biggest kudos as like the XTC 305 it’s fast and “lighter” but based on its balance still can pack a punch.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Sad to be losing the TFight 315 Limited from the range, luckily I stocked up on 2013 version, but will be looking forward to hearing about the TF40s two versions.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Isn't the H19 Wilson's version of the Head PT57A...?
If so, and considering that the TFight 315 Limited was Tecs version of the PT57A, I don't see how the TF40 and 315 Limited are not similar. Remains to be seen and reported. Don't get me wrong, I hope that TF40 is utterly brilliant... it would be a brilliant reason to add another racquet to the collection and feed the holic monkey on my back, but if it's just a tactic to get us to buy another racquet we already have... I may, emphasis on may,
not bite.It will be interesting to get the info on the SW, and TW of the two TF40 models, as well as sweet spot size differences between the two. I know the TFight 305 XTC was brilliant in this respect and is, therefore, a very good racquet. I'm glad that the RA will be dropping as the 305 XTC was probably my upper limit.
mavsman149
Hall of Fame
I've been feeding my holic by just buying every version of the 315 LTD. I have 3 of the 2013 and 2 of the 2017, I'll probably pick up 2 or 3 of the 2018's when they get a price cut lolIsn't the H19 Wilson's version of the Head PT57A...?
If so, and considering that the TFight 315 Limited was Tecs version of the PT57A, I don't see how the TF40 and 315 Limited are not similar. Remains to be seen and reported. Don't get me wrong, I hope that TF40 is utterly brilliant... it would be a brilliant reason to add another racquet to the collection and feed the holic monkey on my back, but if it's just a tactic to get us to buy another racquet we already have... I may, emphasis on may,