Tecnifibre T-Fight ISO

For those wondering about the differences between the 300 and 305 ISOs in particular, consider their recoil weights. The ‘lost spec,’ recoil is a measure of a frame’s polarization.

The higher this #, the more weight is distributed toward tip &/or tail, which taller players tend to prefer for its laggy pulling-a-hoop feel. The lower the RW, the more weight is distributed toward the balance point, which shorter players tend to prefer for its pushing-a-handle feel.

All to say, there’s a feelable difference between the RWs of the 315 & 305 vs. the 300 & 295:
ISO 315: 165 RW
ISO 305: 164 RW
ISO 300: 152 RW
ISO 295: 152 RW
 
Thanks, this is very interesting. It suggests that it one added a leather grip to the 300 it would still feel different to the 315 due to the difference in where the weight is distributed!
 
Yeah Tecnifibre indicated several times that the désigne was different (weight distribution) across the line same with TF... 305 + weight in handle doesn't equal 315 frames
 
Thanks, this is very interesting. It suggests that it one added a leather grip to the 300 it would still feel different to the 315 due to the difference in where the weight is distributed!
You're welcome. And yes, your conclusion is correct. This is why knowing what range of recoil weights works for you is as important as knowing your preferred swingweights, IMHO.
 
You're welcome. And yes, your conclusion is correct. This is why knowing what range of recoil weights works for you is as important as knowing your preferred swingweights, IMHO.
The question is, by adding the leather grip, will the recoil weights change as well?
 
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The higher this #, the more weight is distributed toward tip &/or tail, which taller players tend to prefer for its laggy pulling-a-hoop feel. The lower the RW, the more weight is distributed toward the balance point, which shorter players tend to prefer for its pushing-a-handle feel.

Fascinating insight! I'm tall and have particularly long arms. Could this be the reason I love my Pure Strike Tour - I calculated it's recoil weight at 171. With PST I have exactly the feeling you describe, kind of pulling the weight with a lag, on my forehand, backhand that I find so incredibly satisfying.
 
The question is, by adding the leather grip, will the recoil weights change as well?
Yes, adding a leather grip will add recoil weight, @ulunxtns. Depending on its weight, it can add around 5 or so RW points.

And yes, @Tranqville, that is probably precisely why you dig that Tour. It is thought that an "ideally polarized" frame (if you like that sort of thing) is 170 or more. So, if you're tall, you're right in the wheelhouse. My current frame, a Radical MP, is customized up to 174, and it's the best I've ever swung. My last frame was a PO7, which I couldn't comfortably customize above 164 because it started at 158. The lesson learned? If you dig a polarized frame, start with a polarized frame.
 
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Yes, adding a leather grip will add recoil weight, @ulunxtns. Depending on its weight, it can add around 5 or so RW points.

And yes, @Tranqville, that is probably precisely why you dig that Tour. It is thought that an "ideally polarized" frame (if you like that sort of thing) is 170 or more. So, if you're tall, you're right in the wheelhouse. My current frame, a Radical MP, is customized up to 174, and it's the best I've ever swung. My last frame was a PO7, which I couldn't comfortably customize above 164 because it started at 158. The lesson learned? If you dig a polarized frame, start with a polarized frame.
Okay, the next question might sound funny. Regarding the taller and shorter players, what the height that divides these two groups? 5'9"?
 
Hah, @ulunxtns! While that's average for a man, it's quite tall for a woman, so 5'9" would count as above average for all players, meaning a likely preference for above 160 RW frames. But keep in mind that, as with all rules of thumb, there are multiple exceptions. A lot of it has to do with what one is used to.

That said, I'd played with relatively depolarized frames all my life. And when I picked up a truly polarized one, I never looked back.
 
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Hah, @ulunxtns! While that's average for a man, it's quite tall for a woman, so 5'9" would count as above average for all players, meaning a likely preference for above 160 RW frames. But keep in mind that, as with all rules of thumb, there are multiple exceptions. A lot of it has to do with what one is used to...
Thanks for the response. I do usually prefer at least 7 pts HL, that makes sense.
 
For those wondering about the differences between the 300 and 305 ISOs in particular, consider their recoil weights. The ‘lost spec,’ recoil is a measure of a frame’s polarization.

The higher this #, the more weight is distributed toward tip &/or tail, which taller players tend to prefer for its laggy pulling-a-hoop feel. The lower the RW, the more weight is distributed toward the balance point, which shorter players tend to prefer for its pushing-a-handle feel.

All to say, there’s a feelable difference between the RWs of the 315 & 305 vs. the 300 & 295:
ISO 315: 165 RW
ISO 305: 164 RW
ISO 300: 152 RW
ISO 295: 152 RW
that is interesting subject and I am into everything that can help me understand my preferences.
The problem with specs is that certain things in racquet can help you more on different strokes. (not only SW,TW, RW, static weight, balance but also headsize, stiffness, string pattern, beam design and how it flexes and where it flexes) at some point I think it's almost impossible to be scientific about the preference as it can be very random at times. I believe even color of the frame can determine if the player feels good with it and it determines relaxation of the body and mind which enables to play better. Something unscientific suddenly becomes part of the equation right?

Tipsarevic once said when he was switching frames there were few options. You can pick something that will improve your best shot OR improve your worst shot OR trying to find something in the middle but there is always a matter of choices and sacrifices. At the end he was going after frames that were all about his strenghts rather than weaknesses. Rest was just adapting and putting hard work behind his game.

Anyway could you please determine my RW and if there is any specific pattern?
frames I believe worked with my overall game and swing-style:

1. Head Speed Pro 360+ (amazing)
2. I could mention here that I grew up using also Head Graphene Speed Pro (first graphene speed)
3. Wilson Blade 18x20 from 2015 (great feel but was messing up with my wrist)
4. Head Radical MP 360+ (very well balanced distribution)
5. Head Gravity Pro (a bit weird coz it felt heavy enough, fast enough but with not enough plow through kinda. weird combo)
6. Tecnifibre Tempo IGA (again, i was surprised how good it felt swinging)
7. Head IG Prestige MP (magic wand)
8. Wilson Pro Staff 95 S (magic wand)
9. Yonex Ezone Dr (lacked stability but the swing style was cool)
10. Diadem Elevate V2 (lacked power but the feel of the swing was amazing, magic wand)
11. Tecnifibre ISO 305 18x20 (I am adding about 10 grams to the bottom so it is easier to finish my forehand and service motion)
12. customized Angell TC95 at around 320g, 30,8 cm, 295 SW unstrung (probably the closest middle-man between stable rocks and magic wands)


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Has anyone had any issues with a pinging sound with the Tfight ISO 305 ?
I haven't got any arm pain/discomfort but sometimes hear a pinging sound from my frame. Also, I've got a big paint-chip near the 11-1 position, could that be related ?
I've also played with an old TF40 2019 edition previously and haven't had any such issue.
 
I have been testing the TF305 16x19 with a leather grip + 3 gms in the hoop (at 3 and 9). Will bite the bullet and buy the ISO 300 (can't really demo easily here in the UK) and compare / report back!
Looking forward to it :)
I also added the leather grip to my TF 305, nothing in the hoop yet. What string do you use? Right now I'm using black code, it seems too dead for my liking in this frame.
 
Looking forward to it :)
I also added the leather grip to my TF 305, nothing in the hoop yet. What string do you use? Right now I'm using black code, it seems too dead for my liking in this frame.
Zsofi (reviewer with nice ohbh) seems to use the tf40 16x19 as her main stick and said she gets more spin with it. She loved the slice with the tfight.

I used to use Volkl Cyclone 1.15 on the tf40 305 18x20 which worked great so strung up the 16x19 with that as well and it works well. Head Hawk 1.2 and Razor Code 1.2 worked well for me in the 18x20 so my plan is to try Razor Code 1.2 next on the 16x19. I usually string quite low like 42 lbs.
 
Zsofi (reviewer with nice ohbh) seems to use the tf40 16x19 as her main stick and said she gets more spin with it. She loved the slice with the tfight.

I used to use Volkl Cyclone 1.15 on the tf40 305 18x20 which worked great so strung up the 16x19 with that as well and it works well. Head Hawk 1.2 and Razor Code 1.2 worked well for me in the 18x20 so my plan is to try Razor Code 1.2 next on the 16x19. I usually string quite low like 42 lbs.
After the black code experience, I'm thinking of razor code white for my next as well. I was looking for a little more power from the TF40. The control is great.
 
After the black code experience, I'm thinking of razor code white for my next as well. I was looking for a little more power from the TF40. The control is great.
I would recommend going down in tension a bit with this one - starts to really play well 45 lbs and below imo. Also maybe try 1.2 gauge instead of 1.25 gauge - should be more lively. I also read that the blue colour of razor code is more lively but the white one is more solid likely and looks sick too.
 
I would recommend going down in tension a bit with this one - starts to really play well 45 lbs and below imo. Also maybe try 1.2 gauge instead of 1.25 gauge - should be more lively. I also read that the blue colour of razor code is more lively but the white one is more solid likely and looks sick too.
Thanks for the tips, I will string it 45/43 to start with.
 
Has anyone had any issues with a pinging sound with the Tfight ISO 305 ?
I haven't got any arm pain/discomfort but sometimes hear a pinging sound from my frame. Also, I've got a big paint-chip near the 11-1 position, could that be related ?
I've also played with an old TF40 2019 edition previously and haven't had any such issue.
Funny, if I’m correct one of the playtester also report this in the 300ISO review. Does the ping disappear with a dampener?
No crack in your racquet? Did your racquet get that big paint chip after a schock?
 
that is interesting subject and I am into everything that can help me understand my preferences.
The problem with specs is that certain things in racquet can help you more on different strokes. (not only SW,TW, RW, static weight, balance but also headsize, stiffness, string pattern, beam design and how it flexes and where it flexes) at some point I think it's almost impossible to be scientific about the preference as it can be very random at times. I believe even color of the frame can determine if the player feels good with it and it determines relaxation of the body and mind which enables to play better. Something unscientific suddenly becomes part of the equation right?

Tipsarevic once said when he was switching frames there were few options. You can pick something that will improve your best shot OR improve your worst shot OR trying to find something in the middle but there is always a matter of choices and sacrifices. At the end he was going after frames that were all about his strenghts rather than weaknesses. Rest was just adapting and putting hard work behind his game.

Anyway could you please determine my RW and if there is any specific pattern?
frames I believe worked with my overall game and swing-style:

1. Head Speed Pro 360+ (amazing)
2. I could mention here that I grew up using also Head Graphene Speed Pro (first graphene speed)
3. Wilson Blade 18x20 from 2015 (great feel but was messing up with my wrist)
4. Head Radical MP 360+ (very well balanced distribution)
5. Head Gravity Pro (a bit weird coz it felt heavy enough, fast enough but with not enough plow through kinda. weird combo)
6. Tecnifibre Tempo IGA (again, i was surprised how good it felt swinging)
7. Head IG Prestige MP (magic wand)
8. Wilson Pro Staff 95 S (magic wand)
9. Yonex Ezone Dr (lacked stability but the swing style was cool)
10. Diadem Elevate V2 (lacked power but the feel of the swing was amazing, magic wand)
11. Tecnifibre ISO 305 18x20 (I am adding about 10 grams to the bottom so it is easier to finish my forehand and service motion)
12. customized Angell TC95 at around 320g, 30,8 cm, 295 SW unstrung (probably the closest middle-man between stable rocks and magic wands)


say hello on IG ! (y) @dandan.tennis
Hi @galapagos, since this discussion has gone off-topic of this thread, I’m taking the liberty of moving my reply over to the
Recoil Weight, Polarization, and MgR/I Demystified thread…
 
So few reviews of Tfight ISO 315 - if you have tried it, please leave your feedback! Particularly interested in comparing with similar 315-320g control-power frames like Radical Pro, Pure Strike Tour, Ezone Tour.
 
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Funny, if I’m correct one of the playtester also report this in the 300ISO review. Does the ping disappear with a dampener?
I actually don't like to use a dampener ;). I will post the photo of the paint-chip tonight. It could be possible that my frame has a crack :cry:.
I don't find the pinging harsh on my frame and this frame is just as comfortable as my Prince with a bit more oomph. What perplexes me is the fact that the 2019 TF40 despite being more demanding and having a slightly smaller sweet spot felt more solid :confused: .
 
So few reviews of Tfight ISO 315 - if you have tried it, please leave your feedback! Particularly interested in comparing with similar 315-320g control-power frames like Radical Pro, Pure Strike Tour, Ezone Tour.

I’m not really loving my demo so far to be honest. I was hoping for a slightly more powerful and forgiving TF40. Tfight reminds me more of an Ezone or something like that. Will hit a little more before I move on though. Right now the next great hope is maybe the shift, something between a blade and a clash sounds most excellent. Also looking forward to trying the new VCORE and also a cx400 tour.
 
I’m not really loving my demo so far to be honest. I was hoping for a slightly more powerful and forgiving TF40. Tfight reminds me more of an Ezone or something like that. Will hit a little more before I move on though. Right now the next great hope is maybe the shift, something between a blade and a clash sounds most excellent. Also looking forward to trying the new VCORE and also a cx400 tour.
So you say it is more powerful than you wanted it to be ?
 
So you say it is more powerful than you wanted it to be ?
The power level is fine. It does have the power boost I was looking for. The feel and touch are what is throwing me off. I was hoping to get some power with a little less sacrifice in the feel and touch but I guess there is no free lunch. I could easily play with the Tfight, but I’m not sure I see myself switching from the TF40 for it.
 
I have recently hit with my first Tecnifibre and I truly was blown away with how much I liked it. I hit with the ISO 305 while comparing it to Blade V8 16x19, Pure Strike 16x19 3rd gen, and CX200 and wow the ISO just felt so much better but the SW of 338 was just too much after even 1 set. I could just tell I was getting tired and slower. With my love of the ISO 305, I have a ISO 300 demo coming and I believe the lower swing weight will make this one a true winner for me. I also found a good deal on a used 2022 TF40 305 16x19 that I picked up. I will keep everyone updated as I still have the ISO 305 as well, so I am going to do a back to back on the ISO 305, ISO 300 and the TF40 305
 
The power level is fine. It does have the power boost I was looking for. The feel and touch are what is throwing me off. I was hoping to get some power with a little less sacrifice in the feel and touch but I guess there is no free lunch. I could easily play with the Tfight, but I’m not sure I see myself switching from the TF40 for it.


how is the control and serves spin ? is it easy to whip the stick ?
 
The power level is fine. It does have the power boost I was looking for. The feel and touch are what is throwing me off. I was hoping to get some power with a little less sacrifice in the feel and touch but I guess there is no free lunch. I could easily play with the Tfight, but I’m not sure I see myself switching from the TF40 for it.
is it stiff in feel compared to tf40?
 
So few reviews of Tfight ISO 315 - if you have tried it, please leave your feedback! Particularly interested in comparing with similar 315-320g control-power frames like Radical Pro, Pure Strike Tour, Ezone Tour.
315 just arrived. Strung with red code 1.25 / 22kg. Tomorrow i ll give you my impressions. Till now TF40 16x19 is probably my favourite racquet in terms of feel of 2022 but unfortunately no free power at all at least for me. Tried every string combo and at 19kg and still couldn’t generate a heavy ball. As for isoflex line 305 is better than RS. Similar feel (a little bit more plush / muted ) but a lot more power. High SW is not for me….. isoflex 300 was not a good playtest for me. I found it to have even less spin and power than RS300 and lacked stability. If i ll enjoy 315 i ll give 300 another demo again. It was strung with razor code 1.25 white. In general those isoflex feel to have a thinner beam compared to RS and longer throat. They are more close to pure strike gen 3 / yonex / extreme tour shape….. while RS were closer to blade shape where racquet head is closer to the handle.

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315 just arrived. Strung with red code 1.25 / 22kg. Tomorrow i ll give you my impressions. Till now TF40 16x19 is probably my favourite racquet in terms of feel of 2022 but unfortunately no free power at all at least for me. Tried every string combo and at 19kg and still couldn’t generate a heavy ball. As for isoflex line 305 is better than RS. Similar feel (a little bit more plush / muted ) but a lot more power. High SW is not for me….. isoflex 300 was not a good playtest for me. I found it to have even less spin and power than RS300 and lacked stability. If i ll enjoy 315 i ll give 300 another demo again. It was strung with razor code 1.25 white. In general those isoflex feel to have a thinner beam compared to RS and longer throat. They are more close to pure strike gen 3 / yonex / extreme tour shape….. while RS were closer to blade shape where racquet head is closer to the handle.
Sometimes I'm really glad when racquets aren't rated particularly well (here the ISO 300). That keeps me from wanting to have them. So I can continue to play my IGAs with a clear conscience.
Thanks for the impressions. Of course, I hope the ISO 315 lives up to your expectations :)
 
In general those isoflex feel to have a thinner beam compared to RS and longer throat. They are more close to pure strike gen 3 / yonex / extreme tour shape….. while RS were closer to blade shape where racquet head is closer to the handle.
AFAIK the RS and ISO share the same mold.
 
is it stiff in feel compared to tf40?

yes, the Tfight feels pretty stiff compared to the tf40. My thoughts are just based off a little time on a ball machine. It’s possible that the Tfight was producing a better ball, but the feel was off putting coming from the super plush tf40. Maybe if I could experiment with some hybrid stringing or low tensions I could get the feel dialed in more. I’m just a recreational/social player, so I probably value feel about as highly as I value the actual results produced. I’m coming from a clash previously, so I guess I just really enjoy the plushness.

the 300 was pretty stable on ground strokes but didn’t fell stable enough on volleys. Really nice on overhead and serve though.
 
yes, the Tfight feels pretty stiff compared to the tf40. My thoughts are just based off a little time on a ball machine. It’s possible that the Tfight was producing a better ball, but the feel was off putting coming from the super plush tf40. Maybe if I could experiment with some hybrid stringing or low tensions I could get the feel dialed in more. I’m just a recreational/social player, so I probably value feel about as highly as I value the actual results produced. I’m coming from a clash previously, so I guess I just really enjoy the plushness.

the 300 was pretty stable on ground strokes but didn’t fell stable enough on volleys. Really nice on overhead and serve though.
I don’t know for the 300 but the 305 RS has such a great feel. Crisper but extremely solid and and not less comfortable than the TF40 for me.
 
Sometimes I'm really glad when racquets aren't rated particularly well (here the ISO 300). That keeps me from wanting to have them.
I've become increasingly immune to reviews. I often feel that the buzz around a racket, including in reviews, is often more about curiosity and enthusiasm than anything else. And let's face it, without questioning the honesty of the reviewers, there is also a promotional aspect to it.
I find the notes in the reviews pretty much devoid of sense that, if anything, what is more interesting is the comparison that is made with other racquets. The feedback from customers like us is more indicative in my opinion.
That said, just because the reviews leave me skeptical doesn't mean I don't want to buy a new racquet, unfortunately.
 
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I just play tested 315. And i didn’t like it same with 300 version. I just don’t have confidence to even swing this racquet. Sweet spot is fine but head size feels small like playing with a 95-97 inch stick. I can’t gel with it at all. It has more power and energy return on blocking shots than 300 version. It’s a very solid stick if you found the sweet spot which is on the upper part of the head. I prefer RS315 and XTC 315 even more. So my favourite overall tecnifibre stick remains RS300 but a proper one specked. To me if you enjoy your TF40s only 305 isoflex is worth testing. But feel wise TF40 is way way way more connected….. I would have easily switched to this gem if it had more free power.
 
I just play tested 315. And i didn’t like it same with 300 version. I just don’t have confidence to even swing this racquet. Sweet spot is fine but head size feels small like playing with a 95-97 inch stick. I can’t gel with it at all. It has more power and energy return on blocking shots than 300 version. It’s a very solid stick if you found the sweet spot which is on the upper part of the head. I prefer RS315 and XTC 315 even more. So my favourite overall tecnifibre stick remains RS300 but a proper one specked. To me if you enjoy your TF40s only 305 isoflex is worth testing. But feel wise TF40 is way way way more connected….. I would have easily switched to this gem if it had more free power.


why is it heady heavy to hard to swing ?
 
Anyone playing the iso 305? I’d like string recommendations!
Playing right now with regular lynx 1.25 at 50. Wanted to try Ice code or lynx tour next.
 
Anyone playing the iso 305? I’d like string recommendations!
Playing right now with regular lynx 1.25 at 50. Wanted to try Ice code or lynx tour next.
I’ll rank mine. I use both the RS and iso 305.

1. Ice code 1.25 - probably the best one I’ve used in this frame. However I did have some elbow discomfort. Maybe I’ll try is again and string at 50-51 lbs. but here in Florida I needed to go to 54 or 53 with the humidity.

2. Kirschbaum max power 1.25. Better control than Ice code. Comfortable. Doesn’t generate as much spin as the ice code or power but has better control and feel.

3. Solinco revolutions 1.25 : I flip back and forth with this and max power. Better power and spin potential. Need to string it around 52 lbs.

4. Volkl cyclone tour 1.25 (carbon color) very underrated string in my opinion. Very good power and control. And arm friendly

5. Solinco outlast 1.20: I want to try the 1.25. If you want comfort and spin potential this is a fantastic string. It pops off the string bed and gave me some loopy ground strokes.

Somewhat honorable mention:
- red code 1.25 : it’s ok but the ball feels dead off the string bed after 2 weeks.

- super smash 1.28 (kirschbaum) : loved it when I first used it but the ball is super dead after 1-2 weeks. I tried stringing it low at 49 lbs and got 2 weeks out of it. Not great for durability.
 
I’ll rank mine. I use both the RS and iso 305.

1. Ice code 1.25 - probably the best one I’ve used in this frame. However I did have some elbow discomfort. Maybe I’ll try is again and string at 50-51 lbs. but here in Florida I needed to go to 54 or 53 with the humidity.

2. Kirschbaum max power 1.25. Better control than Ice code. Comfortable. Doesn’t generate as much spin as the ice code or power but has better control and feel.

3. Solinco revolutions 1.25 : I flip back and forth with this and max power. Better power and spin potential. Need to string it around 52 lbs.

4. Volkl cyclone tour 1.25 (carbon color) very underrated string in my opinion. Very good power and control. And arm friendly

5. Solinco outlast 1.20: I want to try the 1.25. If you want comfort and spin potential this is a fantastic string. It pops off the string bed and gave me some loopy ground strokes.

Somewhat honorable mention:
- red code 1.25 : it’s ok but the ball feels dead off the string bed after 2 weeks.

- super smash 1.28 (kirschbaum) : loved it when I first used it but the ball is super dead after 1-2 weeks. I tried stringing it low at 49 lbs and got 2 weeks out of it. Not great for durability.

Thanks! I was afraid of that answer. I loved ice code in the XTC I had, but wanted something else in the iso because its going to look like a gandalf racquet with all the white haha!
But Ice code it is then!
 
Thanks! I was afraid of that answer. I loved ice code in the XTC I had, but wanted something else in the iso because its going to look like a gandalf racquet with all the white haha!
But Ice code it is then!
I mean definitely try max power and revolutions. Ice code was just too stiff. Maybe I’ll try it at lighter tensions.
 
Upate. I took the ISO 305 out again last night (third time) to compare it with the Blade 16x19 V8 before I had to send demo back. I first used the ISO and got my feel for it and then picked up the blade after a while. I have been back and forth between these two, but last night just made me want to put the blade right back down and pick the ISO up again. I ended up hitting with the 305 all night. The more I hit with it the more I liked it. Good spin, brought my second serve kicking even more, volleys were on par with the blade. I was able to put some power in my swing and the confidence that it will hold the court. Again my arm got tired (not sore) just like the first time I used it. I believe that if I could get a 329/330 swing weight out of this I would buy two up. Has anyone checked their demo/personal racquets to see how high or low they are from spec? I have talked to TW today about doing a matching pair and tried to see if they could tell me what the lowest SW they have recorded from their testing, but he could not tell me. I have the TF40 305 16x19 and the ISO 300 showing up tomorrow and will be hitting Saturday to back to back to back test all three. The 305 that I hit with has 2-3 hours since new stringing with LXN 4G on the mains and Wilson sensation on the crosses at 53lb tension.
 
Did anyone struggle returning serve with the iso 305? Groundstrokes, volleys and serves were brilliant with this racket but returning seemed to struggle surprisingly
 
Did anyone struggle returning serve with the iso 305? Groundstrokes, volleys and serves were brilliant with this racket but returning seemed to struggle surprisingly

No issues. Do you go for a return with depth or chip back? I play in a doubles league now for the first time in a while and my issue is avoiding the net guy bc I’m more used to singles margins.
 
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