Tecnifibre TF X1 300

A_Instead

Legend
This new tecnifibre looks interesting on paper.. appears to be a new head shape as well...
Looks promising...
Anyone have any pre launch experience with it?
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Looks almost the same as the Tfight 300, just 1mm thicker beam and higher stiffness. My guess is it is supposed to be a pure drive copy, more so than the tfight 300 is.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
I hope this model is a success. The handle system as used in the Lacoste racquets is an interesting attempt to produce a more comfortable response.
At present I really think the TF 40’s are great frames as far as feel and comfort. Would love to see Tecnifibre offer a heavier version of the TF 40 315 but with a moderate SW.
 
The new X-Damp system in the handle seem to work in a similar way to the Volkl Vsensor handle, I.e. to reduce vibrations as much as possible. i played two years with a Volkl Vsense V1 Pro and really liked the comfort level. Don’t know if the vsensor had anything to do with it though…….
 

ClaudTT

Semi-Pro
The new X-Damp system in the handle seem to work in a similar way to the Volkl Vsensor handle, I.e. to reduce vibrations as much as possible. i played two years with a Volkl Vsense V1 Pro and really liked the comfort level. Don’t know if the vsensor had anything to do with it though…….
This is an old concept that I saw first time on the old days... the steel Wilson T-3000 had it and worked. Also the Volkl Vsensor you mentioned seem to do a good job.
 

emaz8724

Rookie
This is an old concept that I saw first time on the old days... the steel Wilson T-3000 had it and worked. Also the Volkl Vsensor you mentioned seem to do a good job.

Is any racquet tech actually new? It seems like companies recycle technologies (ie Prince Triple Threat braids are the same as the “new” Wilson Braid 45 tech). The same goes for all these futuristic looking paint jobs that look like they’re out of the late 80’s/early 90’s. Other than changing head sizes and overdoing stiffness the past decade, is anything truly new?
 

galapagos

Hall of Fame
This new tecnifibre looks interesting on paper.. appears to be a new head shape as well...
Looks promising...
Anyone have any pre launch experience with it?
I think the x-damp system works and looks very cool. For its stiffness it feels more like 64ra. I would suggest to string the frame low. It is muted and whippy. I guess its somewhere between speed and extreme lines if you want to label things :)
 

Devil_dog

Hall of Fame
How does this diiffer - albeit minor differences in specs - from a TFight 300 RS? I playtested the TFight 315 RS and I felt the racquet to be pretty dampened already. Can't imagine the e-damp in the TF X1 would dampen even more than the TFight line?
 

ClaudTT

Semi-Pro
How does this diiffer - albeit minor differences in specs - from a TFight 300 RS? I playtested the TFight 315 RS and I felt the racquet to be pretty dampened already. Can't imagine the e-damp in the TF X1 would dampen even more than the TFight line?
It is explained in the racket specs, that X-damp is for the low frequencies, as the other engineering is for high frequencies of the frame. Both reduce fatigue and injury probability.
 

ClaudTT

Semi-Pro
This new tecnifibre looks interesting on paper.. appears to be a new head shape as well...
Looks promising...
Anyone have any pre launch experience with it?
IT is a 'new approach', head shape IS completely different to TF and RS lines and frame is for power.
It broadens the Tecnifibre line pretty well...
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Do you people think that Tecnifibre is starting to make its move up in the world? Their strings are great, the TF 40 are high quality and this new frame could be a game changer if it’s a good one.
 

netlets

Professional
Do you people think that Tecnifibre is starting to make its move up in the world? Their strings are great, the TF 40 are high quality and this new frame could be a game changer if it’s a good one.

Well they have Medvedev and Swiatek - both could be collecting Slams over the next several years. I can't wait to try this racquet. It's in between the Clash and Pure Drive from what Tennis Nerd said. Similar specs to the Pure Drive but not as stiff feeling. I really like the Clash Pro, but sometimes feel as though when I'm playing really top players that the ball hangs out a bit too long on the string bed (flexes so much) and it can throw my timing off. I really only notice that against the better players that hit hard and flatter. If this new racquet doesn't bother my arm it could be a keeper - although I will need to add some weight.
 

ClaudTT

Semi-Pro
Do you people think that Tecnifibre is starting to make its move up in the world? Their strings are great, the TF 40 are high quality and this new frame could be a game changer if it’s a good one.
Are you investing in Tecnifibre ?
 
Speaking of vibrations, and especially “vibration frequency “, anyone knows if it has any relation to elbow problems….?


I saw that someone mentioned “low and high frequencies“…..


Stiff racquets tend to have higher numbers but I am curious if these anti vibration techs actually work……..with regards to really being better for the arm. I am currently suffering from golfers elbow but having changed to multifilament strings, the issue is not getting any worse for now and I can continue to play.

i tried for a few weeks the Prince EX03 Tour with a flex rating of 52,with multifilament strings , but at the least for me it actually felt worse than playing with my Vcore 100 (2021) and Ezone 100 with multi strings. I think the Prince was a bit unstable for me and perhaps that is why it felt worse. Just speculating…..
 

ClaudTT

Semi-Pro
Speaking of vibrations, and especially “vibration frequency “, anyone knows if it has any relation to elbow problems….?


I saw that someone mentioned “low and high frequencies“…..


Stiff racquets tend to have higher numbers but I am curious if these anti vibration techs actually work……..with regards to really being better for the arm. I am currently suffering from golfers elbow but having changed to multifilament strings, the issue is not getting any worse for now and I can continue to play.

i tried for a few weeks the Prince EX03 Tour with a flex rating of 52,with multifilament strings , but at the least for me it actually felt worse than playing with my Vcore 100 (2021) and Ezone 100 with multi strings. I think the Prince was a bit unstable for me and perhaps that is why it felt worse. Just speculating…..
Fatigue is always associated with number of load cycles, and much less with high load level.
What we have in a racket+person is a dynamic system. A tuned damper like the one in this racket (and Volkl I believe) has been used in the past (Wilson T3000 steely) and works to inertially damp the racket vibration.

If done correctly, the racket will give you less load cycles and less fatigue induced by this frequency that is been logarithmically 'cancelled'.

So, in practice you will feel the difference clearly. Will this be a solution to your problem ? Got to try by test and your 'arm sensors' will tell you what is going on.
Always remember you+racket are a "unique" dynamic system... therefore, requires a unique solution... but it could be sufficient enough for you.

Note: If it works, try no to use high tensions or full bed of mono polyester....a least for a year.
 
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netlets

Professional
I demoed this racquet for 4 days and just bought one today and strung it up. It is definitely more comfortable than a Pure Drive and Pure Aero. I believe the RA after stringing is 67 and that feels about right. I can certainly feel the flex on some shots and it is crisp and comfortable for me. It's not as plush/comfortable as the Clash Pro but I really like the weight distribution in this one better - 4pts head light. It has more power too. Interesting to note, the swing weight is higher than the Clash Pro, even though it is lighter. My X-1 300 is 11.5 oz with strings and an over grip. My old Pure Drive is 11.2 oz and My Clash Pro is 11.8 oz. I don't have arm issues - but the dampening system in this racquet is working IMO. I finally used it today with my string of choice - Hyper G soft at 47lbs and it felt great - much better than a hybrid to me. I'm a 5.0 tournament player that is 55 years old.
 

J D

Semi-Pro
I am demoing the X1 and the IGA right now. They are very different frames that seem to belong in two different categories. The X1 is really more of a comfortable PD clone. The IGA (and the TF 300 RS) are lighter player frames, like the a more solid PA VS or a less HH Blade.

The X1 plays very similar to the 2015 PD with maybe a bit less spin. It's a little harder to hit the aggressive loopy forehands that explode off the court, but it does flatten out a bit easier then many versions of the PD. The X1 gets really nice bite on BH slices, which are penetrating and easy to control. The mains on the X1 are farther apart than the PD but the crosses are spaced closer together.

Flat serves with the X1 bounce higher for me than with any other frame from recent memory (more backspin, maybe?). This keeps them from being quite as heavy or penetrating but they still have plenty of pace. For example, when I hit my flat serve with the PD 2021, the ball hits about 2-3 feet high on the back fence and is still rising. With the X1, the ball hits about 4 feet high but is dropping, like it's lost some pace. Surprisingly, second serves with the X1 don't seem to have quite as much spin as recent PD's. Serve placement with the X1 was excellent.

The X1 has a large sweet spot and is easy to swing and maneuver. It doesn't feel quite as solid as the PD's, but it doesn't feel as stiff, either. Unlike the 2021 PD, the sweet spot is higher and you won't lose power towards the tip. Like earlier versions of the PD, shots towards the top of the X1 come off fast with a little less spin.

I found myself always being a little careful to not hit too hard or to flatten out too much. I think this was really because the poly in the demo is very lose. I don't think that would be an issue with my normal poly (TB) at my normal tension.

For long-time Tec fans, comparing the X1 to the earlier T-Flash 300 PS would be like comparing the 2021 PD to the 2018. The T-Flash and 2018 PD are clubs for pummeling forehands and serves. The X1 and 2021 PD are more balanced and maneuverable but yet still powerful all-court type weapons, at least for me. I felt comfortable hitting any shot from anywhere on the court with either of these. While the X1 doesn't have the the abundant stability of the 2021 PD, it also isn't giving me the arm pain that the PD did. To be completely fair, though, the PD demo was strung with some really dead RPM Blast.

The X-Damp technology does seem to work (I remember seeing something similar in Head handles back in the 90's, maybe). It felt like it did deaden vibrations but also seemed to lose a little feel. That's a tradeoff I'm willing to make for arm comfort, though.

The X1 does have the balance, swing, and power of a PD. For those looking for the elusive more arm friendly PD, I think Tec has come awfully close. It's worth a demo, IMHO.
 
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galapagos

Hall of Fame
I am demoing the X1 and the IGA right now. They are very different frames that seem to belong in two different categories. The X1 is really more of a comfortable PD clone. The IGA (and the TF 300 RS) are lighter player frames, like the a more solid PA VS or a less HH Blade.

The X1 plays very similar to the 2015 PD with maybe a bit less spin. It's a little harder to hit the aggressive loopy forehands that explode off the court, but it does flatten out a bit easier then many versions of the PD. The X1 gets really nice bite on BH slices, which are penetrating and easy to control. The mains on the X1 are farther apart than the PD but the crosses are spaced closer together.

Flat serves with the X1 bounce higher for me than with any other frame from recent memory (more backspin, maybe?). This keeps them from being quite as heavy or penetrating but they still have plenty of pace. For example, when I hit my flat serve with the PD 2021, the ball hits about 2-3 feet high on the back fence and is still rising. With the X1, the ball hits about 4 feet high but is dropping, like it's lost some pace. Surprisingly, second serves with the X1 don't seem to have quite as much spin as recent PD's. Serve placement with the X1 was excellent.

The X1 has a large sweet spot and is easy to swing and maneuver. It doesn't feel quite as solid as the PD's, but it doesn't feel as stiff, either. Unlike the 2021 PD, the sweet spot is higher and you won't lose power towards the tip. Like earlier versions of the PD, shots towards the top of the X1 come off fast with a little less spin.

I found myself always being a little careful to not hit too hard or to flatten out too much. I think this was really because the poly in the demo is very lose. I don't think that would be an issue with my normal poly (TB) at my normal tension.

For long-time Tec fans, comparing the X1 to the earlier T-Flash 300 PS would be like comparing the 2021 PD to the 2018. The T-Flash and 2018 PD are clubs for pummeling forehands and serves. The X1 and 2021 PD are more balanced and maneuverable but yet still powerful all-court type weapons, at least for me. I felt comfortable hitting any shot from anywhere on the court with either of these. While the X1 doesn't have the the abundant stability of the 2021 PD, it also isn't giving me the arm pain that the PD did. To be completely fair, though, the PD demo was strung with some really dead RPM Blast.

The X-Damp technology does seem to work (I remember seeing something similar in Head handles back in the 90's, maybe). It felt like it did deaden vibrations but also seemed to lose a little feel. That's a tradeoff I'm willing to make for arm comfort, though.

The X1 does have the balance, swing, and power of a PD. For those looking for the elusive more arm friendly PD, I think Tec has come awfully close. It's worth a demo, IMHO.
I support this review. I can add that x1 feels a bit like Babolat had a baby with head :p it has kinda Babolat performance with head feel
 
Fatigue is always associated with number of load cycles, and much less with high load level.
What we have in a racket+person is a dynamic system. A tuned damper like the one in this racket (and Volkl I believe) has been used in the past (Wilson T3000 steely) and works to inertially damp the racket vibration.

If done correctly, the racket will give you less load cycles and less fatigue induced by this frequency that is been logarithmically 'cancelled'.

So, in practice you will feel the difference clearly. Will this be a solution to your problem ? Got to try by test and your 'arm sensors' will tell you what is going on.
Always remember you+racket are a "unique" dynamic system... therefore, requires a unique solution... but it could be sufficient enough for you.

Note: If it works, try no to use high tensions or full bed of mono polyester....a least for a year.
Thanks. Great reply!

I recently played with the Tecnifibre X one string at 25 kg and it is supposed to be one the most arm friendly multi strings. Didn't feel great in my opinion. I then changed to Head Velocity at 24 kg and voila..... Big improvement in arm comfort.

Really seems tension has a big difference, even if a string is considered "arm friendly".
 

ClaudTT

Semi-Pro
Thanks. Great reply!

I recently played with the Tecnifibre X one string at 25 kg and it is supposed to be one the most arm friendly multi strings. Didn't feel great in my opinion. I then changed to Head Velocity at 24 kg and voila..... Big improvement in arm comfort.

Really seems tension has a big difference, even if a string is considered "arm friendly".
Am glad you found out !!! Yes, strings have different elastic and damping behaviors, so when you string at the same tensions they respond differently (and over time also).
The only BIG reference is the almighty Gut, where all the others are compared to, with the plus that gut resilience remains almost unaltered. Believe it or not. Magic !!!
 
So, can anyone who plays this comment on arm friendliness? Tennisnerd said it was similar to Clash with arm comfort but the unstrung RA is 71 so I find that really really hard to believe....
 
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mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
So, can anyone who plays this comment on arm friendliness? Tennisnerd said it was similar to Clash with arm comfort but the unstrung RA is 71 so I find that really really hard to believe....
I tried the x-1 285 and 300 on the TW demo court at IW. TF strung them with RPX. Was surprised when I saw the high RA because they felt pretty comfortable.
 
For sure stiffness sounds quite high. Perhaps the Xdamp thing in the handle helps to minimise bad vibrations.....who knows. I played with a Volkl racquet a few years and it was very comfy despite the 66 stiffness rating (strung). My elbow is quite sensitive and I can definitely feel a difference between a racquet that is 68 vs 71 RA. It is an interesting topic. Can stiff racquet be made arm friendly....or at the least decently arm friendly?
 
I tried the x-1 285 and 300 on the TW demo court at IW. TF strung them with RPX. Was surprised when I saw the high RA because they felt pretty comfortable.

ok thanks!


For sure stiffness sounds quite high. Perhaps the Xdamp thing in the handle helps to minimise bad vibrations.....who knows. I played with a Volkl racquet a few years and it was very comfy despite the 66 stiffness rating (strung). My elbow is quite sensitive and I can definitely feel a difference between a racquet that is 68 vs 71 RA. It is an interesting topic. Can stiff racquet be made arm friendly....or at the least decently arm friendly?

Yeah. I guess I‘m afraid of the stiffness getting to you without you knowing, if you know what I mean. Like a racket doesn’t have to feel stiff for your arm to still get destroyed by the stiffness. It just makes it more dangerous as you are not aware it’s happening. Hence I wanted to know if any long time players of this frame have experienced any arm pain due to the 71 RA. I also played this last week and loved it. But I only hit it for a short time
 

econalan

New User
ok thanks!




Yeah. I guess I‘m afraid of the stiffness getting to you without you knowing, if you know what I mean. Like a racket doesn’t have to feel stiff for your arm to still get destroyed by the stiffness. It just makes it more dangerous as you are not aware it’s happening. Hence I wanted to know if any long time players of this frame have experienced any arm pain due to the 71 RA. I also played this last week and loved it. But I only hit it for a short time
FWIW, I've been playing w/ this racket mid August and have experienced no arm pain. And this is coming from someone that had recently recovered from a wrist injury and a minor case of golfers elbow. For me, it's more comfortable than the 3rd Gen Pure Strike 100. My sense is that the X-damp technology is more than just marketing; I never feel any bad vibrations, even on off-center hits. I have had it strung with Tecnifibre Triax and Luxilon Element.
 

ClaudTT

Semi-Pro
FWIW, I've been playing w/ this racket mid August and have experienced no arm pain. And this is coming from someone that had recently recovered from a wrist injury and a minor case of golfers elbow. For me, it's more comfortable than the 3rd Gen Pure Strike 100. My sense is that the X-damp technology is more than just marketing; I never feel any bad vibrations, even on off-center hits. I have had it strung with Tecnifibre Triax and Luxilon Element.
Thank you, good reference. Yes, the dynamic dampener or "tuned damper" does work. It is not a 'new' invention of Engineering, the inertial damper has been implemented in many applications, buildings like the Transamerica Corp. in San Francisco hardly moves on Earthquakes. In F1 racing was banned, it kept the car stable... etc, etc. So it is no gimmick... IS modern engineering.
Am glad that works for you... Happy Tennis !!!
 
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J D

Semi-Pro
I have a sensitive elbow (thanks PS P17). The X1 didn’t bother me at all with a medium stiff poly on the loose side in it. I was demoing the new PD at the same time and it did bother my arm. This really surprised me since I all the reviews said the 2021 was probably the most arm friendly PD ever. I use the PD 2018 with a stiff poly (TB 18) and have no problems.

I’m planning on buying both the 2021 PD and X1 for extended demos soon. I’m a little concerned about the PD and my elbow but I'm not worried about the X1 at all.

FWIW to anyone else, I do anticipate adding some weight to the X1.
 
Do any of you guys have any long term review of this racquet?
I'm just afraid of the racket being too powerful that I can't hit flatter shots and curious about the customization Factor because it seems like all the reviewers are saying that the racket is unstable.
 
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JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Do any of you guys have any long term review of this racquet?
I'm just afraid of the racket being too powerful that I can't hit flatter shots and curious about the customization Factor because it seems like all the reviewers are saying that the racket is unstable.
The one I have is super stable. It’s SW is on the high end but it swings fast still.
 

econalan

New User
Do any of you guys have any long term review of this racquet?
I'm just afraid of the racket being too powerful that I can't hit flatter shots and curious about the customization Factor because it seems like all the reviewers are saying that the racket is unstable.
No stability issues for me either. Yes, the racket is very powerful, so I try to focus on hitting with a lot of topspin to curb the power.
 
I just demoed it. I thought it was a pretty good racquet. Powerful, Very easy to use. I feel like the stick is a bit stiff. I may make the switch. Do you guys think that there is a risk to injury with using such a stiff stick? I know there is the dampening thing but it still felt a bit stiff on my arm. I will need to try it one more time just to confirm if it was indeed the racquet or I was just over thinking the stiffness.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
I just demoed it. I thought it was a pretty good racquet. Powerful, Very easy to use. I feel like the stick is a bit stiff. I may make the switch. Do you guys think that there is a risk to injury with using such a stiff stick? I know there is the dampening thing but it still felt a bit stiff on my arm. I will need to try it one more time just to confirm if it was indeed the racquet or I was just over thinking the stiffness.
I don’t find it overly stiff but I have a soft thin poly in mine.
 
The verdict is that, at least for me, the racquet is too stiff. This is coming from a person with 0 tennis injuries.. loved the ease of use with the racquet. Could have been the dead stiff poly that came with the demo.. but who knows if that is the case, it could have been freshly strung for all I know.

My wrist has been hurting for the past few days since the demo with the racquet. Super unfortunate, since I really wanted to switch to the racquet.
 
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econalan

New User
The virdict is that, at least for me, the racquet is too stiff. This is coming from a person with 0 tennis injuries.. loved the ease of use with the racquet. Could have been the dead stiff poly that came with the demo.. but who knows if that is the case, it could have been freshly strung for all I know.

My wrist has been hurting for the past few days since the demo with the racquet. Super unfortunately since I really wanted to switch to the racquet.
Sorry that your wrist has been hurting the past few days. In my case, I also don't find the racket overly stiff, and do enjoy the X-Damp vibration dampening system. For reference, I've been using Black Code 17G at 51-52 lbs. My sense is the "dead poly" that came w/ the demo played a role in how the racket felt to you (but not sure since you indicated it could have been freshly strung). At any rate, here's hoping you are over the wrist soreness soon.
 
At any rate, here's hoping you are over the wrist soreness soon.
Thanks for the well wishes! Really wished I could have enjoyed the stiffness. I am not sure it seems like everyone is saying the stiffness is okay.. maybe it's my technique compared to how wippy the racquet was.. or was it the string? I am not sure because for some reason I played my best tennis. I beat a person who I normally can't beat at all 6-2 in a set and felt like I was playing god tennis with this racquet... Really hoping it was something else, but I am afraid to try again because I even tried to deny the wrist for a few days too hoping it wasn't the tennis but -.-
 
Figured out what caused my wrist injury. It was the fact that the racquet had a smaller grip. I usually play with 4 1/4 with an over grip on a yonex but for some reason Tecnifibre's 4 1/4 without overgrip is way smaller than what I am used to.. I think because the racquet has a quicker swing I was flapping my wrists a lot which caused the problem.
 

A_Instead

Legend
Yes.. Tecnifibre grips are very small..and do not have strong edges.. a 4 1/4 almost feels round..
It's basically feels like a 4 1/8 of other manufacturers..
 
Just sharing the first hitting session with the TF-X1. It's with a beginner hitting partner/friend. Rainy February and early March, so just went to the court to stay in touch with finding the sweet-spot. Higher intensity and advanced hitting with more advanced hitting partners will be shared, as soon as weather gets better and I can get into my regular rythm of playing.

 
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