Tecnifibre X One (Biphase???)

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
A strange story!

I've been playing a full bed of Tecnifibre X One Biphase for about 8 months now. I get my sticks strung at 2 different shops. Oddly, it seems that the X One I've been getting from the 2 different shops is not the exact the same string.

Shop A - The X One I get from this shop looks and plays almost identically to VS Gut. Best multi I've ever used. I got my first dozen X One string jobs from this shop.

Shop B - The X OneI get from this shop has a subtle but noticable white spiral within the natural colored string. It is even softer and frays faster than the X One I get at shop A, and it doesn't hold its tension as well either.
I got about 3-4 string jobs from this shop before I decided to go back to shop A.

Today, as a result of the lower performance of the X One I got at Shop B, I took one of my sticks back to shop A and had it restrung with X One. When I got home I compared it to my other stick which still had unused X One from shop B.

The obvious visual difference is the noticable spiral from the shop B string. But, here's the strange thing - when I took out a magnifying glass and looked closely at the dot matrix print on the strings, the shop A string said "Tecnifibre X One" with some alpha-numeric code after it, but did not say "Biphase" on it. The string from shop B said "Tecnifibre X One Biphase" on it. In other words, the better string did not include the word Biphase, but the lesser string did.

Any explanations, thoughts, experiences are appreciated.
 
A strange story!

I've been playing a full bed of Tecnifibre X One Biphase for about 8 months now. I get my sticks strung at 2 different shops. Oddly, it seems that the X One I've been getting from the 2 different shops is not the exact the same string.

Shop A - The X One I get from this shop looks and plays almost identically to VS Gut. Best multi I've ever used. I got my first dozen X One string jobs from this shop.

Shop B - The X OneI get from this shop has a subtle but noticable white spiral within the natural colored string. It is even softer and frays faster than the X One I get at shop A, and it doesn't hold its tension as well either.
I got about 3-4 string jobs from this shop before I decided to go back to shop A.

Today, as a result of the lower performance of the X One I got at Shop B, I took one of my sticks back to shop A and had it restrung with X One. When I got home I compared it to my other stick which still had unused X One from shop B.

The obvious visual difference is the noticable spiral from the shop B string. But, here's the strange thing - when I took out a magnifying glass and looked closely at the dot matrix print on the strings, the shop A string said "Tecnifibre X One" with some alpha-numeric code after it, but did not say "Biphase" on it. The string from shop B said "Tecnifibre X One Biphase" on it. In other words, the better string did not include the word Biphase, but the lesser string did.

Any explanations, thoughts, experiences are appreciated.

Yeah blame it on company misprint and packaging it can happen. Xone is suppose to have that spiral look to it, NRG doesn't. A factory may make both strings but when it came to the final process of manufacturing, printing and packaging the string they may have mixed NRG with Xone.

I got a shipment of xone and I knew it wasn't xone cause the spiral is missing.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
Yeah blame it on company misprint and packaging it can happen. Xone is suppose to have that spiral look to it, NRG doesn't. A factory may make both strings but when it came to the final process of manufacturing, printing and packaging the string they may have mixed NRG with Xone.

I got a shipment of xone and I knew it wasn't xone cause the spiral is missing.

But, this wasn't a one time occurance. I've had at least a dozen string jobs from one shop and always get the "non-spiraled" string from them that has "Tecnifibre XOne" on it. I've had at least a half a dozen from the other shop and always get the spiraled string from them that has "Tecnifibre XOne Biphase" on it. And the two strings play and wear differently.
 

Masamusou

Semi-Pro
Occasionally there are times when bad batches occur. It could be a misprint on the string, it could be a mistake on packaging. I've had customers bring me unopened packages of NXT and when I open it the string is clearly labeled Sensation. Things like that happen, and the chances are if the shop ordered a substantial amount of X-One in a single order, they received a few bundles of this mistake and not just one or two random sets. It could very well be that an entire batch was mislabeled or some other flaw.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
Occasionally there are times when bad batches occur. It could be a misprint on the string, it could be a mistake on packaging. I've had customers bring me unopened packages of NXT and when I open it the string is clearly labeled Sensation. Things like that happen, and the chances are if the shop ordered a substantial amount of X-One in a single order, they received a few bundles of this mistake and not just one or two random sets. It could very well be that an entire batch was mislabeled or some other flaw.

Thanks! Makes sense. But, how does that explain the similar but different labeling on the string itself. It's almost as if there are two X One's. One that has almost undetectable spiraling and says "Tecnifibre X One," but not Biphase, on the string itself. And, one that has more prominent spiraling and says "Tecnifibre X One Biphase," on the string itself.

It's bizarre to me. It would be interesting to get an explanation from Tecnifibre.
 
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Masamusou

Semi-Pro
Thanks! Makes sense. But, how does that explain the similar but different labeling on the string itself. It's almost as if there are two X One's. One that has almost undetectable spiraling and says "Tecnifibre X One," but not Biphase, on the string itself. And, one that has more prominent spiraling and says "Tecnifibre X One Biphase," on the string itself.

It's bizarre to me. It would be interesting to get an explanation from Tecnifibre.

There are all kinds of things that could cause an issue like this. Could be incorrect printing on a string like NRG2. It could be that the strings were made in different factories, which you can see on Wilson NXT as there are two distinct printing patterns with much different fonts on different sets. I only bring up Wilson NXT because it is made by Tecnifibre, so it is possible that one factory prints X-One Biphase, and another factory prints only X-One and then a code. It could also be that one store has a much older batch of strings that were printed differently before a certain change was made in the identification method.
 

fireball11

New User
Have you asked the shop about it? Maybe they're secretly testing out a new variant of x-one lol

If possible, can you post a pic of the string? I'm curious.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
There are all kinds of things that could cause an issue like this. Could be incorrect printing on a string like NRG2. It could be that the strings were made in different factories, which you can see on Wilson NXT as there are two distinct printing patterns with much different fonts on different sets. I only bring up Wilson NXT because it is made by Tecnifibre, so it is possible that one factory prints X-One Biphase, and another factory prints only X-One and then a code. It could also be that one store has a much older batch of strings that were printed differently before a certain change was made in the identification method.

Makes sense again! I wonder if the shops have any control over which factories their string comes from, because, the two different spirals have consistently been from the same shops. I didn't notice the different print until yesterday.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
Have you asked the shop about it? Maybe they're secretly testing out a new variant of x-one lol

If possible, can you post a pic of the string? I'm curious.

I wish I knew how to post pictures online. I'm an old tech dummy. Further, athough the difference in spirals might show, I doubt the tiny dot matrix print will show up in focus.
 

Buckethead

Banned
There are all kinds of things that could cause an issue like this. Could be incorrect printing on a string like NRG2. It could be that the strings were made in different factories, which you can see on Wilson NXT as there are two distinct printing patterns with much different fonts on different sets. I only bring up Wilson NXT because it is made by Tecnifibre, so it is possible that one factory prints X-One Biphase, and another factory prints only X-One and then a code. It could also be that one store has a much older batch of strings that were printed differently before a certain change was made in the identification method.

You are correct.

Changing the subject now, how do you compare the Super 850 with NXT/NRG2??

I really like the both strings you use, but full bed for different reasons, so far the Poly Tour Pro is a heck of string, have been hitting with it for about 10-12 hours, I really like it.
 

fireball11

New User
Oh no problem.

I grabbed my old racket with x-one in the crosses. I never actually inspected the string. I can sorta see the white spiral, but it doesn't seem consistent- I always thought that the lighter parts were due to my mains rubbing on em...

Anyways- the name on my strings say "X-ONE BTP 1.30 NAT"

You're right- it is hard to focus on the name. Here's my blurry cell phone shot:

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Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
Oh no problem.

I grabbed my old racket with x-one in the crosses. I never actually inspected the string. I can sorta see the white spiral, but it doesn't seem consistent- I always thought that the lighter parts were due to my mains rubbing on em...

Anyways- the name on my strings say "X-ONE BTP 1.30 NAT"

You're right- it is hard to focus on the name. Here's my blurry cell phone shot:

tumblr_lq943as1N61qi7stwo1_500.jpg

How did you post the picture?
 

nglaser

New User
A strange story!

I've been playing a full bed of Tecnifibre X One Biphase for about 8 months now. I get my sticks strung at 2 different shops. Oddly, it seems that the X One I've been getting from the 2 different shops is not the exact the same string.

Shop A - The X One I get from this shop looks and plays almost identically to VS Gut. Best multi I've ever used. I got my first dozen X One string jobs from this shop.

Shop B - The X OneI get from this shop has a subtle but noticable white spiral within the natural colored string. It is even softer and frays faster than the X One I get at shop A, and it doesn't hold its tension as well either.
I got about 3-4 string jobs from this shop before I decided to go back to shop A.

Today, as a result of the lower performance of the X One I got at Shop B, I took one of my sticks back to shop A and had it restrung with X One. When I got home I compared it to my other stick which still had unused X One from shop B.

The obvious visual difference is the noticable spiral from the shop B string. But, here's the strange thing - when I took out a magnifying glass and looked closely at the dot matrix print on the strings, the shop A string said "Tecnifibre X One" with some alpha-numeric code after it, but did not say "Biphase" on it. The string from shop B said "Tecnifibre X One Biphase" on it. In other words, the better string did not include the word Biphase, but the lesser string did.

Any explanations, thoughts, experiences are appreciated.

Why would you use 2 different shop for stringing? Find one you like and stick with them for consistency. Every machine will be different, even 2 of the same machines not to mention the stringer.
 

drgchen

Rookie
I'm no tecnifibre expert, but from stringforum database I see that there is a Tecnifibre x-one 1.24 string as well as a Tecnifibre x-one biophase 1.24 string. The packages are different in appearance. I think that they may have had a x-one string then improved on it by making it 'biophase'.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
houw did you get into the hall of fame without posting a pic ? :p

when you reply, theres an "image" icon in the formatting bar, you can then paste a link~

My rugged good looks? :cool:

Thanks for the advice. But, there are a lot of steps missing. I have a digital camera. I know how to download pictures on to my computer. Now what?
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
I'm no tecnifibre expert, but from stringforum database I see that there is a Tecnifibre x-one 1.24 string as well as a Tecnifibre x-one biophase 1.24 string. The packages are different in appearance. I think that they may have had a x-one string then improved on it by making it 'biophase'.

Ding ding ding! I think we have an answer! I check it out and get back! Thanks!

PS: Yup! I saw the "X One" 1.24 on Stringforum. But, to my recollection, that's not the packaging that the suspect string from Shop A comes in. I'm pretty sure both strings from both shops come in the same package. I'll stop by today to make sure. This is the package I'm familiar with: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tecnifibre_X-One_Biphase_17_String_/descpageACTFUSA-X117.html
 
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netguy

Semi-Pro
It is not a strange story. The store I string my raquets at carries both kinds of X-1 you mentioned. Yesterday, I decided to string my raquet with X-1 and they did it with the kind you get from shop A....I'm hitting today, so I'll see how it goes.... I haven't strung my raquets with X-1 in a year, so my curiosity is way up now after reading your post.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
It is not a strange story. The store I string my raquets at carries both kinds of X-1 you mentioned. Yesterday, I decided to string my raquet with X-1 and they did it with the kind you get from shop A....I'm hitting today, so I'll see how it goes.... I haven't strung my raquets with X-1 in a year, so my curiosity is way up now after reading your post.

In my experience, the "X One Biphase" is a bit more resiliant and shreds faster than the "X One" which is stiffer and more durable.
 

netguy

Semi-Pro
I hit yesterday for three hours...The amount of control I got from these strings was impressive and my wirst feels pretty happy today...I have to see how long this heavenly experience will last... so far so good
 

mikeler

Moderator
I hit yesterday for three hours...The amount of control I got from these strings was impressive and my wirst feels pretty happy today...I have to see how long this heavenly experience will last... so far so good


2-3 more hours and then you'll hate the string. It is a wonderful string out of the gate though.
 

netguy

Semi-Pro
@ Mike,
If you really hated these strings after 6 hours, you should say so in your conclusion..... You have X-1 on third place out of 23 multis, (based on your first 6 hours... Is this correct?)

"Conclusion: I think I would describe X-One as a machine gun that rarely misfired. I have a new favorite string by a landslide!"

Why did you hate X-1 after six hours?
This thread is about two kinds of X-1...Do you remember which one did you hit with?
 

mikeler

Moderator
@ Mike,
If you really hated these strings after 6 hours, you should say so in your conclusion..... You have X-1 on third place out of 23 multis, (based on your first 6 hours... Is this correct?)

"Conclusion: I think I would describe X-One as a machine gun that rarely misfired. I have a new favorite string by a landslide!"

Why did you hate X-1 after six hours?
This thread is about two kinds of X-1...Do you remember which one did you hit with?


Argh, I thought I went back and put that in. In any event, it is there now so thanks for the heads up. The first few hours of playing with it was awesome. If it was priced cheaper, I'd probably play with it all the time and just cut it out once a week. I did not realize there were 2 versions of X1, so I'm not sure which one I used.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
Argh, I thought I went back and put that in. In any event, it is there now so thanks for the heads up. The first few hours of playing with it was awesome. If it was priced cheaper, I'd probably play with it all the time and just cut it out once a week. I did not realize there were 2 versions of X1, so I'm not sure which one I used.

They're both great string, but, the "X One Biphase" is as close to VS gut as any string I've ever played, except it doesn't last as long as VS gut. But, it's about 1/3 the price. The "X One" is a little stiffer, but, still great string.
 

mikeler

Moderator
They're both great string, but, the "X One Biphase" is as close to VS gut as any string I've ever played, except it doesn't last as long as VS gut. But, it's about 1/3 the price. The "X One" is a little stiffer, but, still great string.


I just looked at the place where I bought the X-one from and they only sell the Biphase version.
 

timball

Rookie
I've played with X1 for about two years and find everyone's conclusion essentially correct. Plays awesome for the first few hours then becomes mediocre, at best. I've also read much on these boards and have yet to find another string that plays close to X! but lasts longer. I've tried Xcel French open and NRG. Also tried Wislon NXT. Nothing compares to the initial feel of X1. I am so frustrated as I cannot afford to restring every week. BTW, I play with the Prince EXO Team Tour.

Any help would be appreciated!
 

mikeler

Moderator
I've played with X1 for about two years and find everyone's conclusion essentially correct. Plays awesome for the first few hours then becomes mediocre, at best. I've also read much on these boards and have yet to find another string that plays close to X! but lasts longer. I've tried Xcel French open and NRG. Also tried Wislon NXT. Nothing compares to the initial feel of X1. I am so frustrated as I cannot afford to restring every week. BTW, I play with the Prince EXO Team Tour.

Any help would be appreciated!


Xcel plays almost as well and is consistent until breakage. If they could only make X1 so that it plays consistently until breakage, they would probably get a lot more business.
 

Fedace

Banned
Xcel plays almost as well and is consistent until breakage. If they could only make X1 so that it plays consistently until breakage, they would probably get a lot more business.

Xcel premium or Xcel power are you talking about ?? agree X-1 is inconsistant. it plays little different every time you string it up.

and what is X-1 ?? is there such a string ?
 

netguy

Semi-Pro
@ Fedace
What version of X-1 are you talking about?
The OP made a clear distintion between both versions...
Did you hit with both?
 
If you guys like X1 but want a bit more durability between stringing, go with Xcel Power. It is as crisp and soft as X1 but tension maintenance is a bit better too. It costs a bit more so it might actually end up being equal if it doesn't last you 20% longer.

Xcel Premium is softer than X1 or Xcel Power.
 

Fedace

Banned
If you guys like X1 but want a bit more durability between stringing, go with Xcel Power. It is as crisp and soft as X1 but tension maintenance is a bit better too. It costs a bit more so it might actually end up being equal if it doesn't last you 20% longer.

Xcel Premium is softer than X1 or Xcel Power.

Xcel power is pretty nice but kind of expensive. not sure if the price difference is worth getting the Xcel power over X-1 biphase ??
 
Yeah blame it on company misprint and packaging it can happen. Xone is suppose to have that spiral look to it, NRG doesn't. A factory may make both strings but when it came to the final process of manufacturing, printing and packaging the string they may have mixed NRG with Xone.

I got a shipment of xone and I knew it wasn't xone cause the spiral is missing.

You make a very valid point but to me the only difference between X-one Biphase and NRG2 is that X-one Biphase has a wrap while NRG2 does not. Also X-one Biphase plays similar to Wilson NXT while NRG is similar to sensation.
 
Xcel power is pretty nice but kind of expensive. not sure if the price difference is worth getting the Xcel power over X-1 biphase ??

Like I said, if Xcel Power lasts longer than 25% since X1 is $16 and Xcel ower is $20, I would suggest going with Xcel Power which I find is more consistent.
 
Like I said, if Xcel Power lasts longer than 25% since X1 is $16 and Xcel ower is $20, I would suggest going with Xcel Power which I find is more consistent.

See to me any Xcel string feels like mush to me. Whenever I hit with it, whether full bed or in a hybrid setup, I feel that it actually mutes the feel of the ball when it makes contact. On the other hand Xcel provides excellent feel and is very durable in a hybrid setup and full bed lasted me a week and a half and I play quite often.
 

mikeler

Moderator
See to me any Xcel string feels like mush to me. Whenever I hit with it, whether full bed or in a hybrid setup, I feel that it actually mutes the feel of the ball when it makes contact. On the other hand Xcel provides excellent feel and is very durable in a hybrid setup and full bed lasted me a week and a half and I play quite often.


Is the bolded part supposed to be "X1"?
 

netguy

Semi-Pro
Too late Mikeler...I'm heading today to the courts with a fullbed of Tornado, 40C/37C...
it's my lowest tension setup ever.
Change is good!
 

mikeler

Moderator
Too late Mikeler...I'm heading today to the courts with a fullbed of Tornado, 40C/37C...
it's my lowest tension setup ever.
Change is good!


Was not a fan of Tornado as a main string but perhaps your experience will be better.
 

Boricua

Hall of Fame
Everyone else said the same thing. When I first tried it, I thought they were all crazy. If it was cheaper, I'd just restring every 6 hours.




Try it and let us know. :)

Mikeler:

Did you experience terrible tension loss with Multifeel the same as with X1Biphase?
 
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