Tencap vs. NTRP

[Dan R]

This link correlates Tencap ratings with NTRP levels - http://trisail.net/Tennis/Tencap/tencap.html. From what I've seen the NTRP levels are at least .5 too low. In other words, a Tencap rating of 50 on this chart for a man is a mid level 3.0, but from my experience that player would be a strong 3.5.

Wonder what other people have seen with this?

 

[Dartagnan64]

This is a handicapping system rather than a rating system. It allows for players of different NTRP's to play competitively against each other by giving the weaker player free points to use during the match. For instance I would need to give my wife 14 points per set. That equates to about 3.5 games which is pretty close. I usually beat her between 6-0 and 6-2 and occasionally she'll get 3 games. Rarely she'll get 4. With this system our matches become a lot closer.

 

[jm1980]

This is a handicapping system rather than a rating system. It allows for players of different NTRP's to play competitively against each other by giving the weaker player free points to use during the match. For instance I would need to give my wife 14 points per set. That equates to about 3.5 games which is pretty close. I usually beat her between 6-0 and 6-2 and occasionally she'll get 3 games. Rarely she'll get 4. With this system our matches become a lot closer.

Nice. With this handicapping system, basically anyone below 5.0 can beat 7.0 pros without swinging a racquet!

 

[Dan R]

It's used both for rating and handicapping. I just don't think it matches up well to the NTRP system, which I think is a more common system. It's a little hard to compare as Tencap is more granular, and it's more compressed at the higher levels of play, but still they must have some basis for comparison. I know when I signed up for USTA and went through NTRP rating it asked for my Tencap rating. NTRP gave me a better rating than Tencap did, by quite a bit, which I think it consistent with what I've observed.

Back in 2011 Tencap published ratings for ATP players and Nadal had the lowest score, he was -11. The best player I've ever personally watched play has a Tencap of 12. He's a 6.0. Not quite a Challenger level player, but extremely good.

 

[Dartagnan64]

It's hard to compare because its a handicapping system vs a pure ranking system. As jm1980 noted it doesn't work well for very good players playing against very weak players as anytime there is a 24 point difference, they automatically win the set.

But I'll try using it against my wife this weekend and give her 14 points to use through each set. Then I'll tell you how it does. That's how it was intended to be used.