tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
*indicates a woman
Tennis Channel's "100 Greatest of All Time"
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*indicates a woman
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monfed
Guest
So now that Federer's been officially crowned the GOAT, we must graciously accept it and stop the **** wars. 
darrinbaker00
Professional
I'm sorry, but Nadal ahead of Budge bothers me. Budge won the Grand Slam, and I think his was the most difficult to accomplish because there was no commercial air travel back then. While he was on a boat for two weeks traveling from California to Australia, his Aussie counterparts were on the courts getting ready to play. While Budge was on a boat traveling to Europe, his French and British counterparts were on the courts getting ready to play. That's one disadvantage Laver, Connolly, Court and Graf didn't have, and I think it's a pretty significant one.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
btw where is Tomas Berdych on the list?
he's no. 34
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
The point of this list ultimately isn't to provide some definitive list because it clearly failed to be credible in many instances. However, it is a rich resource of synopses for 100 of the greatest tennis champions of all time - regardless of order, this is valuable and interesting. Also, as a homage to great tennis champions the series is really nice. I can't wait for all the episodes to be uploaded wherever.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
You had no point. You just felt the need to argue with people just because they did not like the list and dared to express their disappointment with it. I'm sorry, I don't like the damn list. You can continue to love this list and be sure to tune in for the over 9000 re-runs that they will inflict upon TTC viewers over the next few days.
To be right on the internet? Yes, I often watch TV while browsing the internet on my laptop. Is that irrational? I don't know. All I know is that you are an irrational person yourself considering you were posting comments left and right while watching the countdown.
CEvertFan
Hall of Fame
Guga is at #34 for the men and is at #55 overall when you combine the men and women together.
darrinbaker00
Professional
Ronaldo
Bionic Poster
What number was Lil Mo?
darrinbaker00
Professional
If you don't like the list, that's fine, but don't post that you don't care about the list, because you obviously do. That's the point I was trying to make, and your continued responses bear that out.
CEvertFan
Hall of Fame
Women alone:
11. Maureen Connolly*
12. Helen Wills Moody*
The list in it's entirety:
27. Maureen Connolly
29. Helen Wills Moody
THere's also an episodes of 100 greatest NFL players of all time. Off the top of my head...
1. Jerry Rice
2. Jim Brown
3. Lawrence Taylor
4. Joe Montana
5. Walter Payton
The problem with Jim Brown was he had a short career(like Borg). While his stats was excellent after he retired(still is today), but he's been surpassed by some great rushers after his him. Jerry Rice? His records we don't even know if they will ever be broken again.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
I will post whatever the hell I like and I still don't care about this list. If you are incredibly closed minded and think that a 1 sentence forum post indicates keen interest in the program then congratulations, you have proved a "point".
My continued responses have nothing to do with this list. They have been aimed towards to you because you love to argue for no reason. I have not mentioned a single thing about the list itself in these responses.
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darrinbaker00
Professional
You're the one proving my point, not me. Anyway, I'm done with you now. Thanks for the laughs. 
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
You're the one proving my point, not me. Anyway, I'm done with you now. Thanks for the laughs.
The pleasure was all mine. That was one of the stupidest arguments anyone on TTW has ever proposed. The premises were downright moronic. Bullzilla would be pleased.
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darrinbaker00
Professional
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
darrinbaker00
Professional
As am I. Like I posted earlier, he did twice what only one other man and three women could do once, and that alone should put him at #1. You could argue that he didn't play against all the greatest players in the world when he did it the first time, but he still did it, and none of those others who turned pro before him can make that claim.
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monfed
Guest
Could you update the list in the OP from 1-100 instead of 100-1, please? Thank you.
TERRASTAR18
Hall of Fame
nadal, evert, ag.assi, connors and bjk ahead of serena is a joke
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Evert ahead of Serena is a joke? Evert has won 18 slams and over 100 singles matches and was the dominant female tennis player for years. She most certainly should be ahead of Serena on the list.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
Well, Roddick is in there also.
Talker
Hall of Fame
Evert has more slams, and then look at the tournaments won, not even close.
34 slam finals is one nice stat.
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monfed
Guest
Murray hasn't won a slam yet.
Ah, I see what you did there.
Roddick is a better player - he won more titles, more Masters, contested more slam finals (just happened to run into Federer in those of them that he lost), etc.
Plus he's an American, so he is well-known to the Tennis Channel and can therefore count on some bias.
The choice of Kafelnikov, however, is unexplainable.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
I suspect he was being a tad sarcastic.
Why no Del Potro though? He won a slam didn't he?
:smile:
Do you have to ruin all the fun. Delpo is what I meant to type.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
I kinda thought that so I typed it for you.
Juan Ma Del Pony
Professional
Yes I also agree, thanks for giving DelPo his props
Too bad there's the pesky matter of Vilas still floating around somewhere, or else I'd officially crown DelPo as the Argentine GOAT right now in my own super-scientific GOAT list.
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monfed
Guest
DelPotro did win a slam but he has done virtually nothing since then, while Murray hasn't won a slam but won Masters titles and isn't in the top two either. I suspect the panel are looking for a mixture of both, slams and non slam success.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
How the hell is NAdal #6 on the list?
Sure Nadal is not yet retired, but at this time he's NOT in tier 1 of greatest players. That may change, but it looks unlikely..
Sure Nadal is not yet retired, but at this time he's NOT in tier 1 of greatest players. That may change, but it looks unlikely..
Putting Nadal ahead of Court and Rosewall reflects the ignorance and lack of knowledge of this list.
The list is seriously biased against pre Open Era legends while unfairly favours players after the 2000's. That's why they put Venus and Henin over Connolly and Moody.
On men's side, I think Laver is the greatest, followed by Rosewall, Federer and Pancho, Sampras.
Federer is dominated by his major rival Nadal, while Laver is quite even against Rosewall.
Laver has the grand slam, Federer doesn't. Laver and Rosewall and Pancho were barred from attending majors in their prime, their achievements in pro should be treated seriously. If we treated their years in pro tennis seriously, it's easy to put Laver, Rosewall and Pancho into top 5 list.
The list is seriously biased against pre Open Era legends while unfairly favours players after the 2000's. That's why they put Venus and Henin over Connolly and Moody.
On men's side, I think Laver is the greatest, followed by Rosewall, Federer and Pancho, Sampras.
Federer is dominated by his major rival Nadal, while Laver is quite even against Rosewall.
Laver has the grand slam, Federer doesn't. Laver and Rosewall and Pancho were barred from attending majors in their prime, their achievements in pro should be treated seriously. If we treated their years in pro tennis seriously, it's easy to put Laver, Rosewall and Pancho into top 5 list.
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monfed
Guest
Bad joke but continue.
kiki
Banned
Yes, she is anger because I beat her up all over the forum
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