Tennis in the Second Golden Age of Sports

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    Frankie Laine also provided vocals for the stirring "Rawhide" song for that authentic TV western, this was also in the form of a "mule song".

    The cast of this series included genuine range cowboys, such as Sheb Wooley. Steve Raines, Rocky Shahan.
    The song was composed by Dmitri Tiompkin, who also composed the song for "High Noon".

     
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    Here is Dmitri Tiompkins song for "High Noon", an Oscar winner.

    This classic western film kicked off a new type of high end, adult Western, and the greatest era of the western.
    Yes, I have a preference for westerns, 6 of my 8 great-grandparents were western pioneers in the 1890's. They all became wheat farmers within twenty miles of each other. One of my grandmothers told us of travelling through North Dakota and Saskatchewan in a covered wagon.

     
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    Dan, I think you mean Tiomkin.
     
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    Western movies often possess a strong spiritual presence, derived from the awesome western landscapes. The local church has always been the centre of the prairie social and religious life, and the churches are very active on Sundays, as shown in "High Noon".

    Here is Reverend Johnny Cash with a favourite cowboy vision song,

     
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    The Rawhide series was filmed on location in Arizona, the episode above sometime in 1959.

    There was a similar incident in Arizona, which also took place in 1959, related as follows in "Golden Boy", Lew Hoad's official biography, by Hodgson and Jones, P.176.

    "Towards the end of the [1959] tour, as Jenny, Lew, and Pancho [Gonzales] were speeding through the desert from Los Angles to El Paso, a bizarre incident occurred. Suddenly all the electrics in the car failed and they found themselves in a skirt of a soft yellow light beaming down from above. To this day, the occupants of the car swear that they looked up to see a flying saucer hovering thirty feet over their heads. When the UFO swished away after a little while, the engine and the electrics in the car came back on.

    Lew "couldn't believe it", though it made a good story to share with incredulous friends over a few beers."
     
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    That's a great TV theme song. One of my favorite TV themes was the "original" opening and closing theme from The Twilight Zone, especially the closing theme.



     
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    Bernard Herrmann was one of the great film composers, reaching his peak in the 1950's with a series of Hitchcock films.
    Herrmann's only Western film was in 1954, the first widescreen Western, the director was Henry Hathaway. "Garden of Evil", as the name suggests, played upon many Biblical images in a classic follow-up for Gary Cooper to "High Noon", a sophisticated, visually stunning achievement.
    This film demonstrated that Westerns looked better in widescreen, and Bernard Herrmann's intense score added to the atmosphere.
    Rita Moreno sings at the 4:10 point.

     
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    It's amazing that you can find full feature length films on YouTube now. That's somewhat similar to the Twilight Zone theme.
     
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    Another widescreen Western classic was filmed in Canada, Banff and Jasper National Parks in Alberta, where my wife and I have often been, taking photos which match some of the scenes in this film.
    "The Far Country" was the crown of the Anthony Mann/James Stewart westerns, released in 1955, with the spectacular scenery of the Rockies giving a climax to the series.

     
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    How about some Sergei Prokofiev?
     
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    Prokofiev composed some great music for cinema and opera, little known today.
    Here is the Chicago Symphony Orchestra under Fritz Reiner in 1956 with the scores of Lieutenant Kije and Alexander Nevsky, both central Prokofiev achievements.

     
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    The Chicago Symphony Orchestra recently showed Eisenstein's greatest film "Ivan the Terrible" accompanied live by the orchestra, which played the great score by Prokofiev for the film.
    This epic film was left incomplete in 1946, and Eisenstein had a conference regarding the project with Stalin in 1947, and was "found" dead in his apartment in 1948 of "heart attack". Funny things happened under Stalin.
    Apparently the character of Ivan the Terrible in the film was shown to become progressively paranoid and ruthless as the film progressed, and Stalin was possibly offended by similarities to himself.

    The second part of this epic was released after Stalin's death and the end of Stalinism, in 1958.
    Here is the colour portion, the strange dance of Ivan's court retinue, which was filmed using confiscated German colour technology, obtained at the end of WWII.

     
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    Another major film was shot in Banff and Jasper national parks at about the same time, "River of No Return" starring Marilyn Munroe and Robert Mitchum.
    Marilyn broke her leg during shooting and convalesced at the Banff Springs Hotel, where Joe DiMaggio joined her.
    The local people still remember her visit.
    An enterprising insurance agent in Saskatchewan read the news of her injury, drove many miles to Banff, and sold her an insurance policy for her legs.
     
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    Some great stills from this occasion,

     
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    Here is a good travelogue of the Banff/Jasper parks, showing the Columbia Ice Field where some of "The Far Country" was filmed.
    Also, the Fairmont Lake Louise, where my wife and I spent some of our honeymoon, and the gondola ride at Banff.
    We walked completely around the Lake Louise trail to the end of the lake. Blissfully ignorant of bears in the area.

     
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    In May 2011, my wife and I returned to Banff/Jasper parks, and were in season to see numerous bears grazing at roadside. One huge grizzly was grazing and moving towards us, came within 30 feet, and I moved the car, with open windows, slowly onwards. Later, an 800 lb. monster came close, about 200 ft., and we got some great photos.
    Later, I learned that during the same week, a photographer had set up his tripod outside and too far away from his car, and was unable to avoid a grizzly attack, and was killed. Could have been one of the grizzlies we photoed. I only realized then how dangerous this was.
    Here is some great in full-screen shots.

     
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    The Banff Springs and Jasper golf courses are among the greatest in the world, designed by a famous architect in the 1920's.

     
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    Lake Louise, our honeymoon haven, with our high room overlooking the lake, was stunning from every vantage point.
    We hiked around the lake to the trail, but did not ascend to the upper heights and Lake Agnes.
    The folks here got up high and give us an awesome perspective. Use full screen.

     
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    Marilyn Monroe and baseball's Joe DiMaggio at the Banff Springs Hotel, while she recovers from a broken leg...notice the cast on her left leg.

     
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    The story of Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio was a ten year saga, from their first date in 1952 to her unexpected death ten years later.
    Although they divorced in 1954, DiMaggio's friend Frank Sinatra attempted to reunite them, successfully. At the time of her death, Marilyn and DiMaggio were making preparations to remarry.
    One of her last phone conversations was with DiMaggio's son.

     
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    You go from Prokofiev to Eisenstein to Marilyn Monroe.

    What a great thread!:)
     
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    I chose not to show our honeymoon photos from Lake Louise, perhaps a little less charismatic than Joe and Marilyn.
     
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    A lovely place. I am impressed.
     
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    We enjoyed it.
     
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    The authors of "Golden Boy" suggest that Gonzales may have been receptive to the UFO experience, partly perhaps because there is an ancient record in Mexico of accepting UFO records and artifacts (I hope I have that right). I am not sure about that, because Gonzales was born and raised in Los Angeles, although he apparently visited Mexico and considered it his background home.

    Here is an account of some of those artifacts,

     
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    And another description,

     
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    I recall one documentary which reinterpreted the coroner's data on Marilyn's death.
    This researcher stated that the amount of barbiturate in her bloodstream was consistent with a normal dosage of sleeping pills, and the cause of death was probably a tendency by Marilyn to ingest sleeping pills with a glass of wine, the combination of alcohol and sleeping pills was potentially lethal, even though neither the pills nor the alcohol were in large quantity. Marilyn was not a heavy drinker.
    Secondly, contrary to the coroner's conclusions, Marilyn was not depressed at the time of her death, quite the contrary. Her studio had just accepted her demands, and had given her a $1 million dollar contract, and scheduled the completion of her final film. This answered Marilyn's demand to receive equal compensation to Elizabeth Taylor, who had famously received $1 million for "Cleopatra", a project then still in production. Marilyn was excited about this success.
    The conclusion of the documentary was that her death was accidental.
     
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    Stanley Thompson was the greatest of Canadian golf course architects, especially in the 1920's and 1930's, and in the 2016 list of top ten Canadian courses, Thompson's courses occupy five of the ten spots.
    Another Stanley Thompson course, which has also sometimes been included in the top ten, is the Brantford Golf and Country Club, which he redesigned in the late 1920's.
    I was a member there until just a few years ago, and my father shot a hole-in-one on the course past his eightieth birthday, a feat which won him free drinks for all the players in the clubhouse.
    My wife and I have often brought guests to this clubhouse.
    And, yes, a certain hockey-oriented family are also members.

     
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    In 1956, Gregory Peck played the starring role in film about the New York City business world, "The Man in the Grey Flannel Suit".
    The production was partly filmed in Westport, Connecticut, adjacent Long Island, and the Longshore Golf and Country Club.

     
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    During the production of this film in Westport, Gregory Peck was visiting the Longshore Golf and Country Club, where the resident pro was married to my dad's first cousin.
    In 2010, she was interviewed at Longshore about her meeting with Gregory Peck, which would change her career pattern.
    My wife and I visited her and her husband often in her later years.

     
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    Shades of Katharine Hepburn.
     
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    Beryl was a remarkable person, I have been re-reading her autobiography.
    She was a band singer in the forties, and went to New York in 1948, had her own national radio show on NBC, and later a morning television show on NBC, and also sang on the Ed Sullivan show.
    In those years she had dating relationships with famous singers, including band leader Bob Crosby (Bing's brother) and Vic Damone.
    She married a golf pro in the fifties and became an amateur champion herself, before a teaching career, part of it as an instructor for Arnold Palmer, with whom she remained friends.
    We miss her. Her son, my second cousin, owns a golf course in Maine, where he is resident pro.
     
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    Here is Beryl in 1944, during wartime, when she had a national broadcast weekly in Canada from Vancouver. Beryl was born in Saskatchewan but grew up in Vancouver.

    http://searcharchives.Vancouver.ca/...-entrance-to-panorama-room-at-hotel-Vancouver

    My father visited Beryl's parents in 1942 while he was in military training in British Columbia, and met Beryl briefly just as she was on her way to give a broadcast performance.
    They did not meet again until 2006, when my father was composing the family history. We enjoyed visiting frequently after that, and Beryl and her husband drove up to visit us in 2009, my wife and I accompanied them back to Maine. My father and I visited them in Bluffton, South Carolina, near Hilton Head, the previous year, they lived in a beautiful house and golf development.
     
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    You can find full episodes of Twilight Zone also.
     
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    Nice to see William Shatner in good form.
     
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    Anthony Mann's final Western was the 1958 "Man of the West" with Gary Cooper.
    This film used widescreen technology to incorporate the landscape itself into the screen action.

     
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    Ah, Spring Training!!

    In 1961, Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe, newly reunited, attended spring training with the New York Yankees, where DiMaggio served as a hitting coach for the great Yankee bats that year.
    That 1961 Yankee club may have been the greatest of all.

     
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    Anthony Mann's "Man of the West" included a realistic fight sequence, which again used the background itself as a participant. The trees, the rocks, the horses...they all get into it.

     
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    Here are Marilyn and Joe returning to New York in April 1961, after attending the New York Yankees training camp.
    DiMaggio must have done a good job as batting instructor, the Yankees had a glorious year.

     
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    My favourite Gary Cooper Western is this one, "Garden of Evil", and here, in the above quote, I found a better source, showing the opening credits and closing scene of the two principal stars reuniting at the end into the sunset.
     
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    Gary Cooper, like some of the supporting cast of the "Rawhide" series, actually grew up on a working cattle ranch, his father's own ranch in Montana.
    His father eventually sold the ranch, much to Gary's disappointment. Gary was a foreman and cattle driver and lived in the bunk house.
    Here is what that ranch looks like today, at least in part. There appears to have been a B&B on part of the area. I have driven by that area several times on Hwy 15. Montana shares a border with Saskatchewan.

     
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    Uh oh. Now you've done it:




     
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