Tennis in the Second Golden Age of Sports

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    Gould's finest recording of the Bach "Italian Concerto" was made in New York on June 22-26, 1959, at about the same time as the tennis professional Forest Hills Tournament of Champions was playing in New York at Forest Hills, and still resounds today for its animated final movement, a true Baroque spirit of exuberance and unbridled joy.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfq0PdbQtPY
     
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    Gould made what is probably his most successful and important concerto recording in March of 1961, the Beethoven Fourth Piano Concerto with Leonard Bernstein and the New York Philharmonic. This is a highly individual, probing exploration of the emotional landscape of this work, and gives full weight to the philosophical and meditative contents of this supreme concerto of Beethoven. In a class by itself.

    Gould reveals that Beethoven composed important material for the left hand of the piano soloist, which is commonly ignored by most standard performances, but given full weight in this recording by Gould...a revelation.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9zM5r9j5do
     
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    There are two exciting interviews now made available online, one an interview with Hoad and Kramer from 1957 and another from 1964 with Hoad talking about his win over Gonzales at the Riviera Club at Carlyon Bay in Cornwall on the pro tour that year.

    Here is the 1957 interview, in which Kramer acclaims Hoad as the greatest tennis player ever,

    http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/vi...-Kramer-England-London-news-footage/807918162


    And here is the 1964 interview, which I cannot yet download, a 20 minute interview, which should be very interesting,

    https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film...o-gonzalez-on-the-pro-tennis-tour-1964-online

    This is important new material.
     
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    Here is a description of the Cornwall Coliseum, and the Riviera Club.
    It was a tennis venue for King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson in the 1930's, and a major concert venue more recently.

    https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornwall_Coliseum
     
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    This now causes an adjustment in the hth numbers for Hoad and Gonzales, apparently another indoor match win for Hoad.
     
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    We do not apparently have any other record of this match in Cornwall between Hoad and Gonzales other than this interview...makes us wonder what other matches from this 1964 season are missing.
     
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    In the 1957 interview, Kramer is obviously excited about the great Hoad/Rosewall final at The Hague at Schevenigen the previous day...a match on red clay lasting 3 1/2 hours and in which Rosewall held several match points in the fourth set.
    Hoad won that match 6-4, 3-6, 6-8, 9-7, 8-6, perhaps the greatest match ever played on red clay, and which prompted Kramer to acclaim Hoad as the greatest player ever in this interview.
    As there was no Roland Garros tournament that year for the pros, this would be the most significant clay result of 1957.
     
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    It appears that the 1964 interview cannot be downloaded outside the UK.
    It is a 20 minute interview which may include some priceless match play footage between Hoad and Gonzales.
    Could someone in the UK inform us about what the exact contents are for this link? That would be helpful.
     
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    My own family roots are in Cornwall, which I visited in 2009 to dedicate a headstone for my great-grandfather.
    Our home fishing village of Port Isaac has produced a singing group, The Fisherman's Friends, which has gained fame for reviving the old sea songs, such as this performance at an amphitheatre on the north coast of Cornwall.

    One of the group is a Lobb from Padstow near Port Isaac...my great-grandfather moored his cargo schooner at Padstow.
    A relative? Probably.
    My grandfather was a fisherman from Port Isaac, and an accomplished singer of these songs, before migrating to Canada.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjchmaHNUfo
     
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    Here is the illustrated version of the Fisherman's Friends performance of "Nelson's Blood". A good feel for the sea.

     
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    The Cornish people have an individual tradition of carol singing at Christmas time, using melodies which differ from the standard English songs.

    Here are the Port Isaac Fisherman's Friends with a traditional Cornish wassail, "While shepherds watched their flocks by night", but not with the usual English tune.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ8BIRxh9ao
     
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    Here is a Cornish group singing at Truro Cathedral (Truro the unofficial capital of Cornwall), the Cornish carol "Hark the Glad Sound".
    Like the Fisherman's Friends carol above, this shows the distinctive Cornish harmonies which are employed, apparently by extemporaneous practice.
    No mistaking this for English choral singing.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tTZ6TcLGyI
     
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    Lobb is not the only distinctive Cornish name.

    As it happens, another purely Cornish name is "Rosewall" from the farm area of Rosewall families on the north coast of Cornwall near Land's End.

    I would expect that Ken Rosewall has a Cornish ancestry.
     
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    Here are the boys singing live at the landing area (dry when tide is out) at Port Isaac.
    At the mountain summit on the right (looking out to sea) can be seen the school house where my grandfather and great grandfather were educated, now is a restaurant. My wife and I enjoyed dinner there in 2009.
    This little village of about 700 inhabitants has not changed in centuries, since it became a significant village in the 1300's, and the breakwater built in the 1530s.

    At the village office, I was able to identify my great grandfather (born 1855) from the photo of 1873 of the rescue boat crew, his face almost identical to mine at that age of 18. This is now officially identified and credited to me as the claimant.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PkizW8Amw
     
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    Cornwall hosts an annual choral festival, some of which features songs sung in the original Cornish Celtic language, which is "Kernewek", or Brittonic Celtic, similar to Welsh, but not Irish Gaelic.
    In 2009, one of my cousins in Cornwall gave me a grammar/vocabulary book for the Cornish language, or Kernewek.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMIQxeLaK8g
     
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    At the St. Endellion Church gravesite, we received permission from the parish council to erect a headstone for my great grandfather, who had none at his death, and erect it adjacent to his own father's resting place.
    Both William John Lobb and his father Richard were master mariners of the two-mast cargo schooner "Mary Maria", the family business.
    I commissioned the slate stone, and selected the Bible passage referring to "merchants on the mighty waters".
    We invited all relatives in the area to attend, and 28 showed up for the dedication ceremony by the Anglican clergyman.

    https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2017/237/182728435_1503728217.jpg
     
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    So now there is another tenor Lobb, to go along with the others, my grandfather, my father, and myself...all tenors. I will try to upload my recordings of these other tenor Lobbs.
    Here is Toby Lobb.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=km55OG6Z4CA
     
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    The Port Isaac Fisherman's Friends are originally a group of ten gentlemen who sang together for about twenty years, from childhood, at the Methodist Church in Port Isaac, the same church as my Lobb family there attended. They gradually began to entertain at the local venues and were suddenly offered multi-million dollar record deals about seven years ago.

    Here they are singing a traditional sacred tune of local origin, known appropriately enough as the "Port Isaac Tune", common in churches there.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MytSCSC3sA
     
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    This song stirs the blood, my grandfather's brother served at the Battle of Jutland in 1916, the largest naval battle in history.

    Ah, a real song sung by real men, ("rum, beer, and baccy (tobacco) wouldn't do us any harm"...a little outdated perhaps)... should become the British national song...my only question is...where do I sign?
     
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    Celtic culture extended beyond the British Isles... Brittany in northwest France was also a Celtic/Gaelic culture, and was close, even politically, to Cornwall in the Middle Ages.

    French Canadians derive mostly from Brittany and Normandy, and carried a Celtic style of music and dance to the New World.

    Here is Claude Champagne's suite of French Canadian dances, which have a clearly Celtic style to them.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuYjxVXpnjQ
     
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    Within sight from Port Isaac is the historic castle of Tintagel, where last year a major wall dating from the 6th century was discovered, contemporary with the legendary King Mark, friend of King Arthur, and where Arthur allegedly was born.

    I saw this when I visited the area.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6czLfXMS6U
     
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    The legends of King Mark of Tintagel Castle and his nephew Tristan provided inspiration for the great Romantic opera "Tristan und Isolde" by Wagner, here given a summit performance by Furtwangler conducting the London Philharmonia Orchestra with Kirsten Flagstad as soloist in the famous 1952/53 recording.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=i33hL-nN6X4
     
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    Wagner was not the only composer inspired by Tintagel and its legends...Sir Arnold Bax created a wonderful tone poem inspired by the setting of Tintagel, here shown with appropriate scenes of the north coast of Cornwall.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixF5f2cqIKo
     
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    The characteristic form of Celtic wrestling, still seen in both Cornwall and Brittany, is displayed in annual festivals.

    Here is an explanation of the unique features of this sport.

     
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    Here is a meeting of Cornish and Breton (from Brittany) wrestlers, a common source in the past.

     
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    Cornwall has produced two world champion athletes, one in boxing, one in squash.

    Here is six-time world champion squash player Jonah Barrington.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gd7nZcVtdk
     
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    The Cornish do well in combat sports, including the most popular Cornish game, rugby football.

    Cornwall's world champion in boxing was Bob Fitzsimmons, shown here winning the world heavyweight title.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbXGP7argD8
     
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    Rugby football was a Cornish invention, and grew out of the ancient Cornish tradition of "town hurling", a public ritual whereby the town mayor throws out a silver ball which is then fought over by rugby-type scrums, and then tossed around to various citizens young and old, and whoever takes the ball over the town boundary line is the winner.

    Here is a recent example of this very ancient public ceremony,

     
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    In spite of being the 40th out of 48 counties in terms of population, with about 1/2 million people at present, Cornwall, the home of rugby, has managed to win 5 County Championships, in 1908, 1991, 1999, 2015, and 2016, and has been runner-up on 9 occasions, including 2017.
    A very strong showing per capita.

    The very first win was in 1908, one year after my grandfather left Cornwall at age 20, together with most of his siblings to seek a future in Canada, and missed the excitement.
    That 1908 Cornish rugby squad was sent to the 1908 Olympics to represent Britain in rugby, and won the silver medal (losing to Australia in the gold medal game).

    The next County Championship win for Cornwall was much later, in 1991, in an amazing come-from-behind upset, celebrated ever since as "The Game".

    Here are the highlights and celebration in Truro (unofficial capital of Cornwall).

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCRXcTCcQto
     
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    Cornwall invented rugby football, and in 1861, university rugby teams at University of Toronto constructed the first rules to transform rugby into North American football, but still relying on scrums and lateral passes, no forward passes until much later.

    Here is early North American football, from 1901 and 1903.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6iLOomUm0E
     
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    Amazing what you can find on the internet..here is, I believe, some of the photo of the Port Isaac rescue lifeboat crew from about 1873, with my great grandfather William John Lobb the third figure from the right.

    Small world.

    http://www.portisaacheritage.co.uk/viewer/fullscreen/?imgID=1133
     
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    All members of The Port Isaac Fishermans' Friends group have been crew members on the Port Isaac rescue lifeboat, which is still in operation today, and makes many dramatic rescues of boaters in rough waters.

     
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    Jonah Barrington won six world championships, then the British Open, and his main opponent in those late sixties, and early seventies finals was Australian Geoff Hunt.

    Hunt would soon be challenged by Jahangir Khan, in some of the greatest matches ever played, still the highest level of the game, using wood racquets of the day.

    Here is perhaps the greatest squash match ever, the 1981 British Open final.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeq_JPkJSwU
     
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    My grandfather also fared well on the rough seas. He graduated from technical school as a fisherman, and spent his late teens working on a small fishing boat.
    He eventually moved to Canada in 1907, and intended to fish on Lake Winnipeg, but discovered that it was frozen over most of the year. Instead, he published a small town newspaper in Saskatchewan for 57 years.
    In 1964, one of his fisherman crew mates wrote this appreciation in the newspaper,

    "In Port Isaac we were crew members on a fishing boat named the Gwendoline. These were hard but happy days, and Dick never complained, no matter what the weather was, and I can assure you we braved many an Atlantic storm on that little fishing craft."

    Here is Lake Winnipeg during the unfrozen summer,

     
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    Stoughton, Saskatchewan is about the same size as Port Isaac Cornwall, about 700 souls.

    The weather can also be challenging...especially if you live in a wooden house hammered together in short order, and -40 F temperatures.

     
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    In the video above can be seen the Golden Lion Pub in the Port Isaac town centre, still the premier pub in the region.
    When Fisherman's Friends (all of whom served on the Port Isaac rescue boat) began their singing career, they frequented this type of venue to get their start.

    Hoad and the Aussie tennis players would have enjoyed the atmosphere here.

    https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hgvpsOCFiQ
     
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    Of course, after a night of beer, the inevitable aftermath, here are the Fishermans' Friends singing at home, some five years before they became famous.

     
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    Just inland from Port Isaac is the Bodmin Moor, where wild horses and other wild animals roam freely.
    My second cousin is able to gather eggs every morning from free roaming hens in her back yard.

    My wife and I were approached by several wild horses, but we sat in our car...best not to attempt physical contact.

     
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    On the north coast of Cornwall near St. Ives and Land's End can be found the farm area where the Rosewall families farmed their properties.
    There is a dominant ridge known as Rosewall Hill, part of the moor landscape, where wild horses graze, and where winter skiing takes place.

    I like to think that a certain diminutive Cornishman, well known for handling a tennis racquet, has had the opportunity to explore this area.

     
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    Here is an aerial view of Rosewall Hill.

     
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    The greatest of all Cornish tennis players never won at Wimbledon...however, he won six times at Wembley, which, as we all know, is equivalent to the Wimbledon Pro...so he won six Wimbledon Pros, right?

    Here he is, a six time Wimbly Champ.

     
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    The Little Cornishman's greatest open era win was the 1970 U.S. Open at Forest Hills, beating three top opponents in the final rounds.

    Here is The Cornish Maestro's flashing backhand at its best,

     
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    And, of course, that brilliant final for the 1970 U.S. Open...how about "The Cornish Comet"? Getting better? It sure beats "The Little Master" for a nickname.

     
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