Tennis is the greatest individual sport in the world

Otacon

Hall of Fame
As boxing is light years away from what it used to be, tennis is unquestionably the greatest individual sport in the world. I've been aware of this for a while, but given the media earthquake caused by Novak's disqualification yesterday, it's further proof of the immensity of this sport.

Tennis fans, be proud !

PS : The world doesn't revolve around the US, because I can see you coming.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
As boxing is light years away from what it used to be, tennis is unquestionably the greatest individual sport in the world. I've been aware of this for a while, but given the media earthquake caused by Novak's disqualification yesterday, it's further proof of the immensity of this sport.

Tennis fans, be proud !

PS : The world doesn't revolve around the US, because I can see you coming.

When I saw Whyte get sparked by Povetkin in a flash with that uppercut from the gods and against the flow of the action, I decided that boxing > tennis, at least for now.
 

Otacon

Hall of Fame
When I saw Whyte get sparked by Povetkin in a flash with that uppercut from the gods and against the flow of the action, I decided that boxing > tennis, at least for now.
Never heard of either of them :/
 

Isca

Rookie
Personally I've never understood the appeal of watching two people physically hurting each other, and it really disturbs me when I see ex-boxers interviewed and they can barely string a sentence together. Obviously it's their choice to do it, though of course lots of people see boxing as a 'way out', a career that is open to those from poorer backgrounds in a way that tennis clearly isn't. The money in it is obscene. Tennis is a far more appealing sport for me. I can't think of any other individual sports that come close. Athletics can be fun to watch but are far narrower, more specialised disciplines.
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
Yeah, boxing pretty much doesn't have household names these days.

When Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder re-match, or Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua face each other....the entire world is going to tune in.

The media/internet were talking about the repercussions of the last Wilder/Fury fight for months after it happened. The idea that boxing hasn't got big enough names to make huge waves is ridiculous. The heavyweight division is as exciting as it's been for decades. When any combination of Fury/Wilder/Joshua fights, it's a global event.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
When Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder re-match, or Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua face each other....the entire world is going to tune in.

The media/internet were talking about the repercussions of the last Wilder/Fury fight for months after it happened. The idea that boxing hasn't got big enough names to make huge waves is ridiculous. The heavyweight division is as exciting as it's been for decades. When any combination of Fury/Wilder/Joshua fights, it's a global event.

They will. Fury-Joshua would be humongous, no doubt. Still, right now with these guys it's more about flashpoint events than a sustained interest and curiosity. If the heavyweights play it right over the next few years they could bring a lot of glory back to boxing.

I disagree, however. These guys are not household names in the manner that Tyson, Holyfield, even Lennox were, or that Ali and George Foreman were. And Pacquiao is on the back end and most of the buzz with him has gone and Mayweather is out of the game. So right now there is a void to be filled, and though that is in the process of being filled it's still a far cry away. The potential of the heavyweight division actually needs to happen and the big fights that can be made at welterweight need to happen.

So overall, name recognition in boxing is in a weaker phase, though with the heavyweight division rising.

It's very disappointing how many people don't know who Terence Crawford is.

PS, and it's surprising how many people don't know who the top heavyweights are. Any mum and her cat knew who Mike Tyson was.
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
Never heard of either of them :/

Those guys (Whyte and Povetkin) are the equivalent to Zverev and Raonic in the heavyweight division. High ranking boxers well known to boxing fans, but not exactly household names.

Outside of the Big 3 (and Murray) tennis is full of guys like that. Federer and Nadal may be household names, but most people who don't follow tennis closely would not be able to tell the difference between Thiem and Medvedev.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
That's exactly my point.

I only know Fury, Wilder and Joshua.

Yeh, boxing is not quite capturing the imagination of the surface, the casuals who might show occasional interest but don't delve into the sport. However, if Fury-AJ gets made, I reckon they could sell 3+ million PPV. They have the potential to become among the top few pre-eminent sportspeople in the world by recognition if the fight gets made and it lives up to the hype.
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
They will. Fury-Joshua would be humongous, no doubt. Still, right now with these guys it's more about flashpoint events than a sustained interest and curiosity. If the heavyweights play it right over the next few years they could bring a lot of glory back to boxing.

I disagree, however. These guys are not household names in the manner that Tyson, Holyfield, even Lennox were, or that Ali and George Foreman were. And Pacquiao is on the back end and most of the buzz with him has gone and Mayweather is out of the game. So right now there is a void to be filled, and though that is in the process of being filled it's still a far cry away. The potential of the heavyweight division actually needs to happen and the big fights that can be made at welterweight need to happen.

So overall, name recognition in boxing is in a weaker phase, though with the heavyweight division rising.

It's very disappointing how many people don't know who Terence Crawford is.

PS, and it's surprising how many people don't know who the top heavyweights are. Any mum and her cat knew who Mike Tyson was.

Outside of the Big 3 and Murray, I'd argue no male tennis players have household name recognition (not even Wawrinka). And these guys should be retired.

For me, tennis is not in that much better shape. They are relying on past prime oldsters to prop up the game. The women's side is even worse. It's Serena, and that's it.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
Outside of the Big 3 and Murray, I'd argue no male tennis players have household name recognition (not even Wawrinka). And these guys should be retired.

For me, tennis is not in that much better shape. They are relying on past prime oldsters to prop up the game. The women's side is even worse. It's Serena, and that's it.
I agree with you that tennis isn't exactly in much better shape. And if anything that's on the precipice of a decline going forward, and boxing is on the rise.
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
I agree with you that tennis isn't exactly in much better shape. And if anything that's on the precipice of a decline going forward, and boxing is on the rise.

Exactly. Tennis is minting no new superstars, on either the mens or womens side. Boxing may not have superstars the level of their peak (Tyson, Ali etc) but they always seem to find new stars to generate global interest, like the current top heavyweights. People thought there would be no stars to generate interest after Mayweather and Paccquio, and that is not the case.

Outside of tennis, no one is excited at the prospect of Mevedev/Thiem/Zverev/Tsitsipas showdowns.
 

cortado

Semi-Pro
Boxing is a bit gross. I think it degrades both the spectators and the fighters. We shouldn't need actual fights as entertainment now that we have simulated fights (tennis for example).
 

GabeT

Legend
Personally I've never understood the appeal of watching two people physically hurting each other, and it really disturbs me when I see ex-boxers interviewed and they can barely string a sentence together. Obviously it's their choice to do it, though of course lots of people see boxing as a 'way out', a career that is open to those from poorer backgrounds in a way that tennis clearly isn't. The money in it is obscene. Tennis is a far more appealing sport for me. I can't think of any other individual sports that come close. Athletics can be fun to watch but are far narrower, more specialised disciplines.
I’m hoping (and fairly confident) that boxing will be banned in the next couple of generations and people of the future will look back in amazement at how primitive we were even in the 21st century
 

bigserving

Hall of Fame
Is tennis really an individual sport? It takes at least two people to play tennis, would that preclude it from be called an individual sport?

Track and field events, swimming events, gymnastic events are clearly individual sports. Golf, billiards, darts can be played individually but, should they actually be considered sports at all?
 
As boxing is light years away from what it used to be, tennis is unquestionably the greatest individual sport in the world. I've been aware of this for a while, but given the media earthquake caused by Novak's disqualification yesterday, it's further proof of the immensity of this sport.

Tennis fans, be proud !

PS : The world doesn't revolve around the US, because I can see you coming.
. .Ok, why then did you feel compelled to go with the 'snark'?
 
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