Tennis Masters series records and statistics..1970-present day.

Goosehead

Legend
There have been 9 masters series titles a season since 1970 under three or so different names..

could someone please print out or have a link to wikipedia or maybe just a discussion page..

laver, djokovic, connors have won 5 in a season...lendl the most with 22.
 

timnz

Legend
Championship series

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_Championship_Series

Note: I have real doubts that something like a championship series actually existed. However, I think this list represents the best equivalents we have, they are the top events outside the slams/season end finals/wct finals/grand slam cup.

These lists are important though because they give some career equivalency to those 70s and 80s players with modern day players. It also is important for those players whose careers bridge both eras like Boris Becker who comes out with Masters 1000 equivalents total of 13, when you combine his 80s wins with his 90s (when the official Masters 1000 era started) wins.

Note: it misses out the masters 1000 equivalents for 1968 and 1969. I will dig out Lavers wins from that period for you.
 
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Mustard

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't trust its reliability at all, because tour organisation was a mess up to 1982, with several seperate tours (Grand Prix circuit, WCT tour, US indoor circuit, European spring circuit).

It wasn't until 1983 that there started to be some sort of order to the tour's schedule. It wasn't until the start of 1990 that the ATP World Tour began, and it wasn't until 2000 that they started making tournaments compulsory in regard to world rankings.
 

timnz

Legend
I don't trust its reliability at all, because tour organisation was a mess up to 1982, with several seperate tours (Grand Prix circuit, WCT tour, US indoor circuit, European spring circuit).

It wasn't until 1983 that there started to be some sort of order to the tour's schedule. It wasn't until the start of 1990 that the ATP World Tour began, and it wasn't until 2000 that they started making tournaments compulsory in regard to world rankings.
I think though we can say that the tournaments listed were the most important outside the slams and respective season end finals, so that establises some sort of equivalency.
 

timnz

Legend
Lavers masters 1000 equivalents

1968 Los Angeles (PSW Open)
1969 Philadelphia
1969 South African Open
1969 Boston (US Pro)
1969 Wembley
1970 Johannesburg
1970 Sydney
1970 Los Angeles (PSW Open)
1970 Wembley
1970 Philadelphia
1971 Rome
1972 Philadelphia
1974 Philadelphia
1974 Las Vegas



14 events! Think about this, he won all of these after the age of 30. I don't see any player ever beating that record.
 

Goosehead

Legend
^^^ thanks timnz..could you do a link for the combined 1970-90 & 1991-2012 under tennis masters series records and statistics although there is a link anyhow halfway down the 70-90 list ..

all i see on sky sports (uk) is a master titles list from 1990 or 91 they act as if nothing happened before then,

wikipedia has an easy to read list since 1970...before that it gets confusing with all those tours the top pro players did, even though some of the masters tourneys are 100+yrs old.
 

timnz

Legend
Combined

^^^ thanks timnz..could you do a link for the combined 1970-90 & 1991-2012 under tennis masters series records and statistics although there is a link anyhow halfway down the 70-90 list ..

all i see on sky sports (uk) is a master titles list from 1990 or 91 they act as if nothing happened before then,
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Yes, Tennis didn't exist before 1990 apparently.

^^ thanks timnz..could you do a link for the combined 1970-90 & 1991-2012 under tennis masters series records and statistics although there is a link anyhow halfway down the 70-90 list ..
Hope this helps:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_Masters_Series_records_and_statistics
 

Goosehead

Legend
:)nice one timnz ^^^ thanks..at least with this list from 1970 it gives a deeper perspective seeing as its always been 9 a season..

yes rod laver won 5 in a year (like connors and djokovic) in 1970..when he was 31/32yrs old..

get that everyone, thats like federer winning 5 masters titles next season.:shock:
 

timnz

Legend
9 in a season

:)nice one timnz ^^^ thanks..at least with this list from 1970 it gives a deeper perspective seeing as its always been 9 a season..

yes rod laver won 5 in a year (like connors and djokovic) in 1970..when he was 31/32yrs old..

get that everyone, thats like federer winning 5 masters titles next season.:shock:
As I mentioned above - I have doubt whether there really was ever a Championship Series of 9 events. I just think though that these Wikipedia pages are a useful showing on equivalent events of the time, so we can judge careers from the 70's and 80's with some equivalency with the 90's and beyond.

And yes, Laver was amazing. He reached his peak in 1967 at the age of 28/29 when he grabbed the Pro Calendar Grand Slam. Getting 14 Master 1000 equivalents from 30 and above age range (from 1968) - is just incredible).
 
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