Tennis Player Pulls an El Shapo, gets Defaulted

Third Serve

Legend
Moron is lucky he didn't seriously hurt someone in the crowd. Getting off easy with the default.
To be fair, the guy looked like he was trying to hit the ball into the stratosphere like some other pros do it. He just effed up at the last moment and sent it straight into the crowd. Inexcusable behavior regardless.
 

Tshooter

Legend
To be fair, the guy looked like he was trying to hit the ball into the stratosphere like some other pros do it. He just effed up at the last moment and sent it straight into the crowd. Inexcusable behavior regardless.
I don’t trust a challenger level player to control the ball within the court let alone directed off-court.

On the other hand, I would be honored to get hit by a ball launched by Rafa. VAMOS !
 

Tshooter

Legend
To be fair, the guy looked like he was trying to hit the ball into the stratosphere like some other pros do it...
There is a history of allowing even tacitly condoning displays of frustration/anger from athletes. Maybe these displays started as a way to signal the coach, teammates, other competitors or crowd that you are giving best efforts ? Or is it just considered entertaining ?

It doesn’t really fly elsewhere. Imagine a surgeon launching his tools if frustrated while operating o_O or a lawyer chucking his notes after getting a bad ruling from the Judge :giggle:. How about a pilot doing a barrel roll after getting denied a requested ATC clearance. That would be fun.:love:
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
It doesn’t really fly elsewhere. Imagine a surgeon launching his tools if frustrated while operating o_O. How about a pilot doing a barrel roll after getting denied a requested ATC clearance. That would be fun.:love:
Not for their patients or passengers it wouldn't. :oops:
 
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Chadalina

Guest
I don’t trust a challenger level player to control the ball within the court let alone directed off-court.

On the other hand, I would be honored to get hit by a ball launched by Rafa. VAMOS !
They would beat me 6-1 and i would beat you 6-0. Should give more credit to challenger lvl players, they are better than top college players
 

Bukowski

Professional
I played juniors with Alex. 1) it’s nice to see him working his way up, not from a wealthy family. 2) Yikes, really embarrassing.
 

merwy

Legend
:-D

Unlike the commentator, I don’t feel awful for Alex. This behavior needs to be nipped in the bud and it’s better to take the lesson now than at the higher levels.

Automatic default. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Let’s not take the little money that these challenger players earn away from them. It’s a DQ and that’s that. He’s never going to make this mistake again. These aren’t spoiled millionaires you’re talking about, these are hard working passionate players who are barely able to break even.
 

yokied

Hall of Fame
What I want to see is someone outside the top 3 pull a Nadal and get away with it. Time violations and shenanigans on the opponent's serve and every change of ends? Not gonna make it through the first set I'm thinking...
 

Tshooter

Legend
Let’s not take the little money that these challenger players earn away from them. It’s a DQ and that’s that. He’s never going to make this mistake again. These aren’t spoiled millionaires you’re talking about, these are hard working passionate players who are barely able to break even.
Who said anything about taking his money away ? Was he even fined ? If he was or will be fined I'd have no issue with it. Players need to stop doing this. He didn't get the memo after El Shapo hit an umpire in the eye ?

In any event, your proposing the idea that each player gets one freebie ? You can launch a ball that winds up going errant one time without risking a fine. Or that fines should account for a players individual finances ?
 
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Zoolander

Hall of Fame
If you cant even hit a ball out of the stadium right you shouldnt be playing top level tennis!

Wish they had hawkeye, would love to see the review...
 

merwy

Legend
Who said anything about taking his money away ? Was he even fined ? If he was or will be fined I'd have no issue with it. Players need to stop doing this. He didn't get the memo after El Shapo hit an umpire in the eye ?
Umm.. you did? At least I assumed you're talking about prize money. Otherwise I have no idea what the heck you're saying here.

Automatic default. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
In any event, your proposing the idea that each player gets one freebie ? You can launch a ball that winds up going errant one time without risking a fine. Or that fines should account for a players individual finances ?
I never proposed any idea. The point is that people often applaud or at least condone things that a famous top player does, but find it easy to be harsh on the lesser known challenger player since they don't feel any sentimental attachment to them as they do to their favorite players. You also displayed that sentiment here:

I don’t trust a challenger level player to control the ball within the court let alone directed off-court.

On the other hand, I would be honored to get hit by a ball launched by Rafa. VAMOS !
Anyway, I see you're a Nadal fan so maybe I shouldn't expect too much common sense from you.
 

Tshooter

Legend
Umm.. you did? At least I assumed you're talking about prize money. Otherwise I have no idea what the heck you're saying here.
I did not. You apparently don't understand (common) American idioms ? :cry: That's on me for intentionally not writing for the broadest possible audience.

I never proposed any idea. The point is that people often applaud or at least condone things that a famous top player does, but find it easy to be harsh on the lesser known challenger player since they don't feel any sentimental attachment to them as they do to their favorite players. You also displayed that sentiment here:
"Let’s not take the little money that these challenger players earn away from them. It’s a DQ and that’s that."

Sounds like an idea. :unsure:

Your latest idea is not entirely clear to me. That punishment is generally too harsh on challenger players relative to certain favored ATP pros ? Or that I'm advocating for that ? Or both ?

Anyway, I see you're a Nadal fan so maybe I shouldn't expect too much common sense from you.
How did Nadal get into this conversation ? :oops: While I don't see the relevance (though I acknowledge you seem to think it goes to my common sense), I do enjoy watching Nadal play. :love:
 
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bjk

Hall of Fame
I was at a Coco Gauff match in DC where she got broken and smacked the ball into the stands, hitting somebody. Of course there was no default. Not even sure if she got a code violation.
 
Let’s not take the little money that these challenger players earn away from them. It’s a DQ and that’s that. He’s never going to make this mistake again. These aren’t spoiled millionaires you’re talking about, these are hard working passionate players who are barely able to break even.
(accompanied to violin music) : Oh the poor dears, so put upon--having to play tennis ALL day--not really--getting pre and post event massages--customized racket stringing for their FREE rackets, free clothes, free shoes--free housing at millionaires mansions--free transportation--lounging about the players lounge texting--free food--adoring fans/groupies--YAH, your right--I wouldn't trade places with them in a NY minute--working at a car wash is SO much more rewarding--the poor down trodden dear--don't deprive him of his $200 for tattooing a spectator's stomach--OUCH!--"He's never going to make that mistake again."--Kyrigos learned his lesson from being fined--we'll see. (end violin music)
 
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