Tennis Serve Help please!

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by chris_short1, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. chris_short1

    chris_short1 New User

    Dec 14, 2012
    Hey I'm Chris, I'm 15 years old and I had my first serve measurement the other day and I was consistently hitting serves at around 63-68 mph with a top speed of 70mph.
    Pro Tennis is a little off the mark, unless some lucky miracle happens but I was just wandering what it would take to get a serve over 100mph?
    I use 2 racquets depending on how I feel, one being a wilson pro staff six one 95 and another being a HEAD MICROGEL RADICAL MP... I obviously serve faster with the Head as it gives me that little bit more power.
    I do a lot of exercise and body stuff, I have pretty strong muscles and my technique is different as my coach says.
    However I am not done growing and I'm only around 5ft6.5 inches tall... do I need to grow a little taller to gain some decent speed on my serves?
    Thanks for the help!
  2. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Apr 3, 2013
    Speed is good... for bragging rights. Let's be honest, speed alone isn't very effective: blocking the return back using the server's speed long in the middle of the court often works well. And surprisingly, works well even at pro level. You'd be surprised to see that John Isner, who scored the most aces this year on the pro tour and is the tallest pro out there, is only the 10th fastest server ever. So how does he scores that many aces? Placement (and spin). He puts the ball at places his opponents cannot reach. That's the advantage he has from his height. Not power.

    Moreover, guys like Edberg and rafter were S&V players. Neither were the fastest servers of their time. How did they make it work? Kick serves. Kick serves are interesting because the bounce high and away from your opponent, giving you an easier return to manage. Return that they put away in the open court. McEnroe loved to use a slice on the ad court to force his mostly right-handed opponents to play a backhand off the court.

    If you're able to have excellent placement and spin that allows you to get an easy return to put away, you do not need to serve really hard. Of course, a weak, flat serve landing in the middle of the box isn't going to work at all. Check these videos out.

    Of course, there also might be a problem in your service motion robbing you of some power. But then you'd need to tape yourself to see what's happening during your serve and if there's the need to correct something or not.
  3. Topspin Shot

    Topspin Shot Legend

    Jul 24, 2009
    No; you need to learn how to serve properly. There is no reason aside from poor technique why you can't break 70 mph on a serve.
  4. bblue777

    bblue777 Banned

    Oct 30, 2013
    Shoulder flexibility = deeper racket drop = BIG serves !
  5. arche3

    arche3 Banned

    Aug 29, 2009
    You need proper technique. If you say your motion is different I read that as wrong. You should be able to smoothly serve well over 70mph.
  6. Nostradamus

    Nostradamus Talk Tennis Guru

    Nov 30, 2011
    In the future
    Learn the chain of transfer of power from your legs into tip of the arm and racket itself. Wrist snap adds 10-15 mph. Leg push explosion adds another 10 mph. these thing come with proper serving technique.
    James Blake told me once that he thought the wrist snap was the most important component to him. he knew the importance of leg thrust but he told me that wrist snap was more important.

    some good tips from tom avery too.
  7. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Dec 28, 2008
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    Justine Henin served around 125 on her fastest flat serves, meaning her more normal top/slice first serves went in around 110mph. She's a girl.
    I know 12 year old baseball players (Little league, all state) at your height that serve easily 95mph.
    Post vid, practice, get coaching.
  8. Dimcorner

    Dimcorner Professional

    Oct 12, 2012
    Work on correct technique first before you try to crank power, you might end up injuring yourself if you doing it wrong and try too hard.

    I'm about your size. 5'7" and 145lbs (I really need to diet a little) and my max radar was 115. Most of my weight distribution on me is leg muscles and padding to hide my six-pack. On matches I hit probably no more than 95 or so IF I decide to hit a flat serve. Most of the time I'm adding different spin and placement and hit closer to 80 or a little less. It seems to be just as effective hitting spots with 80 than a 95 flat with less accuracy at my level at least.

    So can it be done? Sure, but you need good technique. Post vid!
  9. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Dec 28, 2008
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    Strange you say you can hit 115, but your match FLAT serves go only 95-100.
    I hit maybe 115, MAYBE, but on ANY set of singles or doubles, I will hit some flat serve into the 110's, or as close as my fastest in practice, and sometimes hit match serves FASTER than practice serves....because I"m amped up, I need the point, my opponent is getting to big for his britches, that stuff.
    I don't know anyone who would deliberately slow down his flat serves for match play, then dial it up again for practice.
    I know lots of guys who hit top/slice first serves in match play, but they don't try to slow down the serve, it's the spin they introduce that slows down the ballspeed.

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