Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by mikeler, Jun 17, 2009.
BTW, all the rain is really helping my elbow heal...
can't see the Etennis people out there fixing/resurfacing the courts. doing the pro shop thing yes but the courts should be subbed out.
They have to fix the courts. Tournies are being canceled right now because they are so bad. I am pretty sure Etennis committed to doing it. It is a liability at this point.
I'd like there to be both a membership fee and a maintenance fee. That way a certain pot of money can only be used for court maintenance and upgrades. OTC has 3 courts that are flooded for hours every morning when there is heavy rain the day before. Taking 3 out of the remaining 9-11 clay courts depending on lessons sucks.
Power Player or mikeler - how long do the hard courts last between resurfacing (provided no sinkholes and done properly) ?
Dunno, probably 5-10 years?
did some checking and standard resurfacing is usually guaranteed 3 years but can last 4 years or so depending on use.
The problem with all these places is they let the courts get unplayable before they fix them. I'd gladly pay double what I'm paying now if they would maintain the courts at OTC better. Get rid of the drainage problems and have a nice layer of clay on the courts at all times. I don't play much on hard courts, but some of them can get dangerous when they have large cracks with differential settling so that one side of the crack sticks up.
YES. I actually slid down a crack when I stepped into a volley and almost destroyed my knee last weekend. Not to mention the messed up ball bounces. It is one of the reasons I usually try and play sets at a court like redbug or OTC, and just hit around at Azalea right now.
I just got my Donnay Pro One OS in the mail. It's setting next to me at work. I am sure this will be a long 3 hours..hoping for no rain tonight. Radar looks good so far.
I did not even bother scheduling a match last night because the local news in the morning had me convinced that I would not be able to play. Won't make that mistake again! Oh well, I have my toughest opponent tomorrow, so at least my elbow will be in good shape. I have to serve well to give myself a shot at the W.
We are in the process of getting our neighborhood's courts resufaced. I thought resurfacing lasts about 5 years. I think we are going with the US Open blue. Something a little different. I played on blue courts in Clearwater this past weekend. I liked them.
Mikeler - we should play some time since we live so close. Id meet you at OTC. Never played there. I know you are busy with a baby, but we should try to arrange it. I have a flexible work schedule and can make any time work. Some thing to think about.
I'm booked this weekend, but maybe we can play next week or the weekend after that. If you can beat Robert, I know we would have a good match.
Yeah, Robert has told me about your game. Says your a strong player. It would be a challenge. Check your schedule - next weekend is going to be tough with Labor day. I have family in town and also going to the Gator game saturday night. The following week, Sept 12, is a tournament at Lake Cane. Can you squeeze it in during the week? Check it out and let me know. There is no private message on this board - is there?
I just sent you an e-mail. Let's set it up that way. Have a good weekend. Man, can't believe football season is almost here. Woohoo!
Talked to Frankie this morning. He is going to appeal the decision about Winter Park.
Played like crap today. My AC went out last night and I did not sleep well. Fortunately, a buddy of mine has an AC business so he fixed it after my match. It was on my mind the whole match though. My elbow was killing me but did not hinder my game, so that was good. Luckily it was a cheap fix.
I played 6 hours this weekend. I started at 5 and honestly the heat was so brutal and painful until after 7 that I thought I was going to pass out. As soon as the sun dropped a little, I got a little energy and started feeling better...but damn.
I played at 8 AM both mornings this weekend. It was not bad at all. The humidity was much lower than the past few days.
Luckily my opponent yesterday hates slow kick serves so I could give my elbow a break. I'd throw in the occasional heater which would catch him off guard and normally get an ace or service winner with it.
I'm going to try and get out there with ssgator80 sometime this week if the rain holds off.
8am..yeah I was still passed out..lol. It probably was nice though..the sun was not at full blast. I thought by 5pm things would settle down, but I was very wrong.
No rain this weekend = no shade either. You and bad_call must be partying youngsters if you can't handle an 8 AM match.
haha..I can handle it some days..but yeah I went to this thing downtown called Skip Day where it was free beers for hours plus I ran into a female I needed to spend some time with...so..yeah..I slept in pretty late. The week really hits me hard on saturday AM.
I'm surprised frank is appealing..I just read that. I don't understand why he is so adament about running a place where basically nobody wants him to run it..lol. He would hate the whole experience. Everyone at Azalea is extremely happy with the current situation. I just think an appeal is a bad idea from talking to the members.
staying up late + 8 AM matches = play crappy.
Do you have a link for that story? I'm not surprised he is appealing because of the money involved. I used to get up at 6:30 AM every day for work until the last few weeks. Now the baby has me up around 6:00 AM most days so I actually have a decent wait until I get to play at 8 AM.
Not all of the Azalea members are thrilled with e-tennis winning the bid. There's a ton of emails going around for both sides. I cant blame him for appealing since he was told he had the gig. At the same time, I can't blame e-tennis for appealing him. As I've said, my only interest is quality courts and being able to get a court when I want one.
Court maintenance is most important, but the number of courts taken for lessons is pretty important to me. It's so difficult to get courts at Fort Gatlin and Lake Cane because they hog all the courts for lessons. If all the courts are working at OTC, you have a pretty good chance at booking a clay court most of the time.
That is a big concern for me too, tournaments, lessons etc.. I want to be able to get a court when I want one!
I'm glad you brought up tournaments. That is another thing they do all the time on the weekends at the MG Tennis run facilities. OTC usually has just 2 tournaments per year. They usually have a small one in the spring and then the Big Citrus Classic with Open and Club divisions. That one is right around Xmas when many people are out of town anyways, so that is a great time to hold a tournament. Compare this to the 12 adult and 28 junior tournaments that MG Tennis holds at Lake Cane/Fort Gatlin!
Azalea currently doesn't have too many either, just the women's seniors in the fall on the clay and the Varner.
The Citrus Classic is a good one to keep around.
The cool thing about the Citrus is you can finish your match and then go over and watch a guy who is 250 in the world play on the court next to you. Amer Delic won it a few years ago. One year they payed Robert Kendrick an appearance fee to come out and hit with people. Seeing that huge serve up close is impressive.
to clarify for the unknowing...the Citrus has a club and an open draw going on at the same time.
To further clarify, the club division is typically 4.5s and 5.0s. Any lower and you will lose in the first round. The Open division has most of the local pros, but it pays a few grand to the winner, so you also can get some decent out of town players too.
ssgator80, the forecast does not look good...
Today: Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly after noon. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 89. North northeast wind between 5 and 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%.
Tonight: Scattered showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 74. East northeast wind around 5 mph becoming calm. Chance of precipitation is 50%.
Wednesday: Showers and thunderstorms likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 89. Calm wind becoming west southwest around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%.
Wednesday Night: Scattered showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 73. East wind around 5 mph becoming west northwest. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
Thursday: Scattered showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 90. West northwest wind between 5 and 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
Thursday Night: Isolated showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low around 73. North wind around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.
Mikeler, I thought you posted that Frank had appealed and that was what I responded to. I don't have a link on it.
I can't speak for all the members, but I know a lot of the folks who went to the meetings..etc. One concern is that Frank's hours will not jive. A lot of people here (including myself) play later until 10pm and play on weekend evenings. Currently that is not an option at OTC.
Etennis is more involved in the Winter Park area and knows all the players since most of them are patrons of the store. That being said, I am a fan of Franks because he is cool and he strings my racquets for a good price.
Regardless those hardcourts MUST be repaired. I know Etennis committed to it, and Frank told me he would do the same. I also agree with all you guys. I want to show up and play. I don't want to see lessons filling all the courts..that is just the worst thing. Azalea's all end around 6 or 7, and OTC right now has plenty so it is not an issue. Hopefully this all changes. This Citrus tournament sounds pretty good. I may do it just to get a gauge for where I am at so far.
10-4 on the "missing link" Power Player. I have never had issues with the hours at OTC because of my schedule, but I can understand your concerns.
I should caution you about the Citrus. Sign up several weeks in advance. It is a very popular tournament and the 32 man draw fills up quickly.
Another thing about the draw, Frankie actually seeds 8 people and then decides the rest of the draw. He favors anyone who sponsors the tournament or takes lessons from him. He has always given me a low seed which I have been a little peeved about considering a few of the players he put above me, but at least I have gotten seeded each year.
Hmmm..I talked to Carlos about hitting with him. The Monday session he said is set up by 4-5 OTC guys who are all friends and I probably can't get in on that.
It is 40 bucks to get a lesson from Carlos. I really don't need lessons, but I would like to take 1 to make sure my serve is being grooved right. I wonder if I should go with Frank for that.
Interesting dilemma. Carlos has a pretty good serve, but Frank has more experience. Can't beat the lesson prices either way.
what's with your serve that you don't like? thought the older good players at Azalea were helping your game out.
btw - the hard courts at OTC (at least the ones i played on) are really bad. not sure of the har-tru court conditions.
Consistency with my serve. The azalea guuys helped me get my groundstrokes and volleys down, but we don't serve and return. I want to just make sure I am on the right path and 1 lesson should get me going.
Basically I can serve great for 2 games then double fault like crazy the next 2..not going to cut it in a tourney, but I planned it all out when I started playing tennis again. The serve was what I knew would take me the longest, so I'm on track.
The best hard courts in the area are Sanlando and Lake Cane. Fort Gatlin is not bad. OTC's hard courts are in bad shape. I wish they would rip those up and put clay in.
The har-tru courts are in decent shape. They could use more clay on them. They have underground watering which to me is insane. The pipes leak all the time. I'm a much bigger fan of sprinklers for watering.
A consistent toss (not chasing it) and extended eye contact seem to be the 2 things that help my serve the most. This is assuming that the rest of your service motion is good.
Sanlando is where I grew up playing. Love those courts.
My service motion is not bad. Bad Call saw it at it's beginning stages. My toss was low as he pointed out..still sometimes is , but I'm working on that one.
I am thinking it's like my backhand..where I was just missing a couple little things to get the consistency where it needs to be.
I'm pretty happy with my progress all in all. I have gotten a very consistent slice and power topspin forehand. My 2hander is getting back to where I had it as a kid, I can rally with and have beaten a few 4.5ers where earlier I was losing to 3.5s. So all this has happened in under 6 months. I have given myself a year before I think I will be ready to play tournies.
I havent been over to watch it in awhile, but the last time I went Michael Russell won the tournament. It was good to watch, although he was quite a bit above everyone else. His opponent tried hard though. I've seen Kendrick at Azalea a couple of times but not for awhile.
I wonder what he charges for a hitting lesson?
That is impressive Power Player. When I first got back into tennis 6 years ago after Roddick won the US Open, I was probably a 4.0+. It took me 6 months or so to get my tennis fitness back. At that point, I was also strong enough to switch back to my 1 handed topspin backhand. Before that, I used my crappy 2 hander which I used my first 2 years of high school.
After 9 months, I was probably a 4.5+. I stayed that way until I started playing up at OTC. I lost against almost everybody there more than I won for the first year or so. It was also tough getting used to playing on clay. After that, the tide turned in my favor against most of those guys. Now with lack of playing time and injuries, I'm middle of the pack again.
1 on 1 or group? Hopefully I'll be down there tomorrow night (not if it rains like tonight) with ssgator80 and I can ask. I think Frankie is $45/hour now, but I'm not sure.
Thanks. It is just for a hit - no instruction, just points tiebreaks, elevens, whatever.
That I don't know about. You probably already told us, but what is your NTRP rating (or self rating)?
Yeah, I am a little ahead of schedule. I am lucky because in my family my grandad was a scholarship tennis player so I think I got some of that tennis gene. Only reason I am not doing matches right now that often is because I want to really have my strokes and serve developed so I can represent myself well. I was a solid Junior player and I want to get that back.
The first 3 months were brutal when it came to fitness, but I had been running and working out for years and the BF% was pretty low..so I just had to get my body used to the beating. I would come home many nights and just shower, wake up and hobble to my office..lol. It still hurts, but have survived the summer and did marathon 3-4 hour sessions of just rallying to really push myself. I like rallying for getting back in shape because matches do not tire me out as much as extended rallying.
Spinz..Carlos is $40 an hour at OTC. He is cool as hell. You should check into it.
any of you in the waterford area? I need a hitting partner
You may want to provide your NTRP Photoshop.
I used to be. I avoid that place as much as possible now..lol.
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