X2. The best thing Dunlop could’ve done was keep the frame width the same. I’m not sure why Babolat didn’t do this with the VSs.… Really curious about the new SX300 Tour; I like that it’s a 98 now, but what’s interesting is it has the same beam thickness as the 100. Would love to see how that plays out. Also here’s to hoping their banana is a pretty one
When will the Tour be released? So far there are only Japanese reviews out there on it. I like the idea that the tour was decreased from 100 to 98 sq as I have a fobia for anything bigger than 97-98. The lowered static weight can only be a positive thing as it leaves more room for customization.
Still using old pj. It looks like he has a lot of lead at 3&9.
btw in case y'all missed it, Kecmanovic had a pretty awesome match against Monfils while wielding the dunlop sx! (not sure if endorsed or off shelf or what...but always happy to see dunlop on court regardless)
He's a signed Dunlop player since last spring. But he's still playing with the previous iteration, judging by the paintjob.
btw in case y'all missed it, Kecmanovic had a pretty awesome match against Monfils while wielding the dunlop sx! (not sure if endorsed or off shelf or what...but always happy to see dunlop on court regardless)
My experience so far is similar to what that Stevel has posted... I played with SX 300 in a college alumni match last night. It was played at an indoor club with rebound ace surface, which is slow. I was playing with younger college players who hit the ball harder than I do. I needed the spin to keep the ball on the court. I could flatten out any ball but, it is great to have the spin that the SX 300 can provide. Especially hitting wide serves and low slices. I am going to restring the SX 300 taking out the Dunlop Explosive Tour and using the Dunlop Iconic all. I am also going lower in tension from 52 lbs. to 46 lbs. I will report back... I would also categorize the SX 300 as "very arm friendly and very good control racquet!"... I do not like "launching tennis balls, golf balls, or hockey pucks. The SX 300 is definitely not a "rocket launcher."Got a few more hours on the SX300 non Tour. Really easy frame to swing. Very solid. Sweet-spot seems to be higher than other frames I use. Very easy to serve with. I am using a full bed of 17G syn gut and the frame is still a spin machine. Slice serves are wicked as are well struck backhand slices. I have not yet experienced too many balls flying long. Also, opposite of the TW review, I am having nice success driving through the ball and seem to be able to flatten out shots when needed.
The frame defines the term "user friendly". I have to say with out being able to measure the SW of my demo.. I suspect it is not 325 but closer to 310-315. My demo is also more HL than the TW posted value. Power output for me is low to medium and does seem to be a Dunlop 300 series frame. Frame is quite firm...I did not feel that is was too muted and feel was more raw than I was expecting.
I am on the playtest for the Tour, it does not feel stiff and jarring. I have it strung up with a full bed of the Dunlop Poly that was provided, tension is 52.According to TW the regular SX 300 is stiffer than the Tour by two points. Somebody please confirm that the Tour is not that stiff and jarring!
I strung the SX 300 with the Dunlop Iconic All at 46 lbs. and played with it. First impression is I could have strung it at 42 or maybe 40 and got a little more power and spin... This was the first time I have used Dunlop Iconic All. It feels very similar to Xcel and softer than NXT. The control was excellent! Considering how arm friendly the SX 300 is I would prefer a full string bed of poly for the spin, control and consistency... I let my friend, who is a long-time blade user play with it, and he said, "the control was the same as his blade and the feel was better."My experience so far is similar to what that Stevel has posted... I played with SX 300 in a college alumni match last night. It was played at an indoor club with rebound ace surface, which is slow. I was playing with younger college players who hit the ball harder than I do. I needed the spin to keep the ball on the court. I could flatten out any ball but, it is great to have the spin that the SX 300 can provide. Especially hitting wide serves and low slices. I am going to restring the SX 300 taking out the Dunlop Explosive Tour and using the Dunlop Iconic all. I am also going lower in tension from 52 lbs. to 46 lbs. I will report back... I would also categorize the SX 300 as "very arm friendly and very good control racquet!"... I do not like "launching tennis balls, golf balls, or hockey pucks. The SX 300 is definitely not a "rocket launcher."
I strung the SX 300 with the Dunlop Iconic All at 46 lbs. and played with it. First impression is I could have strung it at 42 or maybe 40 and got a little more power and spin... This was the first time I have used Dunlop Iconic All. It feels very similar to Xcel and softer than NXT. The control was excellent! Considering how arm friendly the SX 300 is I would prefer a full string bed of poly for the spin, control and consistency... I let my friend, who is a long-time blade user play with it, and he said, "the control was the same as his blade and the feel was better."
Yeah it's really nice that the Tour now has some more room for customization. If you liked the previous specs more, you can easily get there by adding some lead.Interesting. It seems like if you liked the old SX 300 spec, the new Tour model might be a closer match than the new ”regular” SX 300. It retains slightly more flex and more control than the competing Pure Aero, which were nice features of the old SX 300. It seems like the new SX 300 might be closer to an exact Pure Aero clone. Both of the old versions had some heft in the head which it sounds like has been eliminated, but that just takes a little bit of lead to fix if necessary. I’m looking forward to testing them; hopefully the upcoming storm in the Northeast won’t shut things down too much this weekend.
Most of my experience is with Wilson. I think the power level is lower than an Ultra and Clash just a little more than a Blade. I think the power level is also lower than a Pure Aero. But the Control level is better or as good as any racquet. The big selling point in my opinion is you can string it with Poly and still have an arm friendly racquet with good spin and control. I would compare the frame to a Pure Aero or a blade. The SX 300 plays better with a full bed of Poly.What do you think about the power / control level of the frame based on your experiences? What frame(s) might it compare to?
Most of my experience is with Wilson. I think the power level is lower than an Ultra and Clash just a little more than a Blade. I think the power level is also lower than a Pure Aero. But the Control level is better or as good as any racquet. The big selling point in my opinion is you can string it with Poly and still have an arm friendly racquet with good spin and control. I would compare the frame to a Pure Aero or a blade. The SX 300 plays better with a full bed of Poly.
Interesting. It seems like if you liked the old SX 300 spec, the new Tour model might be a closer match than the new ”regular” SX 300. It retains slightly more flex and more control than the competing Pure Aero, which were nice features of the old SX 300. It seems like the new SX 300 might be closer to an exact Pure Aero clone. Both of the old versions had some heft in the head which it sounds like has been eliminated, but that just takes a little bit of lead to fix if necessary. I’m looking forward to testing them; hopefully the upcoming storm in the Northeast won’t shut things down too much this weekend.
Stevel I am going to use Tourna Big Hitter Silver 17G. Let's post to compare notes. It is my opinion that the SX300 is arm friendly enough to allow a full bed of poly without worrying about arm troubles. Although I am stinging at a low tension of 46 because I have hard arm issues from a full bed of poly in the past.I will have to try to get my regular set-up in to the SX300 before the end of the test. I use Volkl Cyclone 19G at 52/50. I expect with that set-up the spin will be off the charts. Thanks for your insights.
Stevel I am going to use Tourna Big Hitter Silver 17G. Let's post to compare notes. It is my opinion that the SX300 is arm friendly enough to allow a full bed of poly without worrying about arm troubles. Although I am stinging at a low tension of 46 because I have hard arm issues from a full bed of poly in the past.
Yeah it's really nice that the Tour now has some more room for customization. If you liked the previous specs more, you can easily get there by adding some lead.
I virtually guarantee this frame is intended to be used with full poly. The open string pattern and spin grommets would wear through any sort of multi in short order.It is my opinion that the SX300 is arm friendly enough to allow a full bed of poly without worrying about arm troubles.
I hit with the old black one last year and wasn't as impressed as I am with this one. For whatever reason I found the launch angle weirdly unpredictable with the last on, subtly so, but i didn't find my range with it as instinctively as I did with this one.
Yep, I remember noticing that with the black one when I first received it in the post. I actually thought the idea was quite good, as in to give a little more directional control on paper and offer something different to competitors in this class. But when it actually came down to hitting with it, it was not as predictable as I would have wanted personally. While I do really like the 2022 one from my first experience with it on court, a lot actually, from a brand perspective, I wonder if what they've done is good for business. It's extremely close to an Aero, this new one, whereas the black one felt somewhat more of its own racket, despite a lot of overlap still with the Aero, maybe more so the older Aero Pro Drives.I believe this comes from the "Power Grid" string setup in the old version, which places the cross strings very close together at 3 and 9 and then spreads them progressively towards 6 and 12. I've played both the old SX 300 and CX 200, and they both have a surprisingly low and slightly unpredictable launch angle. I did feel like this gave the old version a little bit of an advantage when hitting lower, flatter shots vs. the Pure Aero. But I think Dunlop decided that the unusual response was more of a net disadvantage and decided to go with more conventional open string spacing in this one.
Stevel as per our previous posts I usedA full bed of Big Hitter Sliver 17G is quite soft and has good spin production for a round poly. It was my go to string for years. I used to string it 60 / 58 before the lower tension poly trend hit. It is a great price / performer. If you buy a reel and a full bed is about $4.00. Do hybrid with a syn gut.. it comes out about $3.00 per setup.
Good points. I think the tighter strings in the middle might’ve created more resistance to the main strings moving, etc. While I’m not crazy about widening the string pattern, it still doesn’t feel as open as a PA or Extreme MP. Maybe after I hit with my demo some and the strings start moving and sticking, I might feel differentlyYep, I remember noticing that with the black one when I first received it in the post. I actually thought the idea was quite good, as in to give a little more directional control on paper and offer something different to competitors in this class. But when it actually came down to hitting with it, it was not as predictable as I would have wanted personally. While I do really like the 2022 one from my first experience with it on court, a lot actually, from a brand perspective, I wonder if what they've done is good for business. It's extremely close to an Aero, this new one, whereas the black one felt somewhat more of its own racket, despite a lot of overlap still with the Aero, maybe more so the older Aero Pro Drives.
So if someone came to me and said they were choosing between a pure aero and a head extreme mp, there's a sufficient difference between the rackets to point out some pros and cons next to each other, what one does better than the other, and this could help someone determine which might suit better. With the 2022 SX 300, I feel it's essentially matching up with an Aero, or thereabouts, in most departments. As I said, I feel the biggest difference is feel at contact. Otherwise, they are so similar that the biggest differences someone else might encounter, other than the different feel, might come down to quality control issues, like one having a higher swing weight etc. I'm somewhat keen to have a back to back test with an Aero and the 2022 SX though to see just how similar they are matched at my spec, as I'm just having to go by memory as I said re the Aero.
If you've tried the pure aero Vs, perhaps my favourite of the spin 98's, how would you compare the SX 300 tour to that? What stood out to me on the specs was the 23/26/23mm beam on the tour, which I've never seen on a 98 before. And I am of course curious about how that feeds into its performance.I’ve played a few sessions with both the SX 300 and SX 300 Tour now and am getting ready to ship them back. Both frames feel good and have excellent access to spin. As I mentioned above there was quite a bit of tension difference between them, with the “regular” SX 300 being much looser and that may have influenced my findings. The SX 300 has a pretty high launch angle and was a bit too powerful for my taste; I usually take a full swing and play with a lot of spin, and those types of shots dropped into the court nicely. But half-volleys, defensive stabs, flat lobs and blocks tended to really sail. It may be that stringing it tighter would help with this issue. On the plus side, the frame was very forgiving with a huge sweet spot. I did end up preferring the SX 300 Tour. I felt like I hit a bit lower and more penetrating ball with it, while still having plenty of spin access. The control, maneuverability, and feel were also excellent. As expected, it was slightly less forgiving off-center than the regular SX. Both versions swung fast and it felt like there was some room to add lead without them becoming too sluggish for middle-aged rec players such as myself.
I also have to give some credit to the strings, which I’m pretty sure are Dunlop Explosive Bite although I can’t find markings on them anywhere. Unlike the older Dunlop Explosive Spin, which somehow I didn’t find very spin friendly, these strings seem to complement the feel and mission of the frame quite well.
Overall, I think Dunlop has a couple winners on their hands. The only downside as far as I’m concerned is that it’s a bit tougher choice between the regular and Tour versions in this generation versus the old edition where the difference was only in the weight.
I've tested the extreme mp and the pure aero at different points in time, and I don't currently have either of those rackets to directly match and compare in one session unfortunately, although I may find myself a pure aero again in the nearish future. I have the old Aero Pro Drives but I haven't cross examined the string spacing, but my feeling is that the SX 300 is wider than those.Good points. I think the tighter strings in the middle might’ve created more resistance to the main strings moving, etc. While I’m not crazy about widening the string pattern, it still doesn’t feel as open as a PA or Extreme MP. Maybe after I hit with my demo some and the strings start moving and sticking, I might feel differently
I used the Pure Aero Plus for quite a while, but haven’t tried the VS yet.If you've tried the pure aero Vs, perhaps my favourite of the spin 98's, how would you compare the SX 300 tour to that?
The playtests for this thing are due tomorrow, and so far none have posted. I was one of the last reviews on the Yonex EZONE 100 because I posted it on the due date. I guess Yonex got the over-achievers and Dunlop got the slackers.
I've been testing it at my spec. At my spec, it's stability is very good. To be honest, most frames are once you give it a good swing weight for instance. But stability isn't one of its downsides, so I'd say you likely did indeed get a underspec one and that would explain the stability issue you've mentioned with it not being stable enough for 4.5s. Even most 5.5s aren't customising frames with added weight and the Pure Aero is one of the most common rackets I've seen along with the Blade etc. I'm saying this because this racket isn't far off in terms of stability to the pure aero and that's being used in stock by many great non professional players. That said, the average stock swing weight listed for the SX 300 is a little lower than the pure aero is it not?Review of Dunlop SX300 V2 (non-tour release) 2/3/2022 SteveI
String and tension used for test: Forten Sweet 17G (white) full bed at 54 lbs. Constant Pull Machine
Tennis experience/background: Played HS tennis and Junior College tennis. Currently a NCAA D3 tennis coach. Have coached public and private high teams - 30 seasons. USTA Junior Team Tennis Captain and League Coordinator. Supervisor and Head Instructor of Town Summer Tennis Camp - 20 years. Been stringing for 30 years.
Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): Playing mostly doubles these days and teaching lessons/coaching. Modern strokes and all court player USTA 4.0.
Current racquet/string setups: Volkl Quantum Scorcher (102) Modified - 11.6 oz / 7 points HL/ 16 x 19 pattern/ Beam 24 mm/ RA 60 - Volkl Cyclone 19G - 52/50.
How many hours did you play with the racquet? 10 Hours
-Groundstrokes: This frame is so easy to use. Loved the easy depth and spin produced with very little effort. Even using a full bed of syn. gut, spin was easy to produce. I enjoyed the fact that I could just drop the frame below the ball and produce a shaped and heavy ball that seemed to give my opponents problems. I did not hit that many flyers but a more controlled swing produced less miss hits. The frame was so easy to get going that trying to produce too much RHS seemed to create an inconsistent swing path in my case. I did much better letting the frame do its job. While others have reported that they had trouble driving through the ball, I did not experience that. I was able my making sure hit the ball a bit higher in the string-bed and more out in front, created a flatter ball with less shape. The frame was wonderful in driving a well struck slice backhand and I could create some nice shape off of my OHBD with a smooth swing. When I attempted to swing too fast is when I got in trouble with unforced errors. I think my frame was a bit under spec in both SW and balance point as it seemed very easy to swing even compared to my formal frame. Control / Power was just about right for my game. The frame was not precise but made up for it with massive spin and easy power.
-Serves: Again... so easy to serve with. If you can't hit a great slice serve with this frame you need serious instruction. They just slide off the court and don't seem to bounce at all. Kick serves a dream to produce since you could just whip the frame up into the ball and see the shape and spin as it explodes off the court. I used a hard slice mostly instead of a flat bomb since it was very easy to produce and I never seemed to even think I would miss the court. When I did hit flat serve it was not as heavy as with my regular frame and set-up. Overall, more positive results with "work" on the ball than straight on power in my case.
-Volleys: Getting the frame into position was a dream and the frame was nice and firm with an RA of 68. Volleys pretty much point and shoot but a bit of extra under-spin helped with harder driven balls. The frame was pretty stable for its weight but did twist a bit when a heavy ball was directed at me. 4.5s and up would need some extra weight for match play. For my level and doubles it was really fun to use. Nice touch for a spin effect frame but not a good as my normal frame.
-Serve returns: No problem getting the frame into position for returns. I found getting the frame out in front helped with the stability and control on returns. When I attempted to really take a rip at the ball and not create a smooth swing path I miss hit and errors crept in. There would not be enough mass in this offering to block back higher level and more powerful serves. I think adding lead or moving to the Tour version would do the trick. At my level, I would just get the frame moving and rotate my hips into the ball, taking it early to produce a nice controlled response. Slice OHBH returns were my favorites as they just stayed low and slid thought the courts. I had great control with these returns.
Power/Control- The frame as stated above was not precise, but it not really built for that market. Hitting heavy deep balls in the court to bigger targets is what this frame was designed for and in the right hands is a nightmare for the player on the other side of the net. Balls landing near the baseline just drove players to the fence.
Top Spin/Slice- As stated above, even using a full bed of 17G Forten Sweet this thing is a spin machine. Using Cyclone 19G would be almost not fair in this frame. If I was to use this frame as my go to stick, I would use a round 16G soft poly with more a dead response to get max spin and control.
Comfort- For me and my older arm, the frame is a hit firm. I like frames in the lower 60s. I did like the firm solid response and I think the sweet spot was bit higher on this offering compared to my Volkl. No arm issues while testing.
Feel- I know other mentioned the frames muted feel. I felt it had more of raw feeling and I could really feel the ball on the frame. I dd not lose track of where the ball was on the string bed. I was also using a syn. gut known for its great feel and somewhat close to natty gut. I enjoyed the feeling and grip shape fit my hand and optimized my strokes.
Maneuverability- Not much to add... maybe too easy to swing at times. I was never late and sometimes too early. Pretty sure my demo was under spec for SW. Soooo easy to get moving.
Stability- Stable enough for 3.5-4.0 .. young juniors. Not stable enough for 4.5s. They need lead or the Tour version.. or both. Again.. I think my demo was under spec with SW, Balance. The static weight was perfect for me.
General reaction/comments on overall performance: Really nice frame for older players with modern strokes, adult intermediates and young juniors. Stronger and better players need more mass and control. Great doubles stick. Loved it and BTW... this demo was very close to my normal setup outside of the extra spin, I had almost no adjustment period. The PJ and build was boss! Thanks so much to TW and Dunlop for letting me part of this experience. I am an older player so younger players might not have similar results or insights. I could play this frame stock as I think it is in my wheel house and I have been playing Dunlop frames since I was 10 years old. Enjoy and happy hitting. Final Note: I played the frame stock outside of a vibration dampener and Wilson Black Comfort over-grip.
Tour or regular 300?String and tension used for test: Dunlop Iconic All 52 lbs.
Tennis experience/background: NTRP 5.0
Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): I am an aggressive baseliner with a big first and second serve. I like to come in when I get my chances and tend to move the opponent around quite a bit.
Current racquet/string setups: Currently using Wilson Blade v7 18 x 20 strung with Head Lynx Tour at 48 lbs.
How many hours did you play with the racquet? I used the racket for about a week. Each day had a session for about 2 hours. Probably around 10 hours.
Comments on racquet performance for each stroke (each section should be 3-5 sentences minimum):
-Groundstrokes: I think for groundstrokes, the racket played really well. I was able to hit a lot of balls deep and move the ball around. I wasn't quite able to pick my targets when I was trying to flatten my shots out for a winner. However, everything else played well and was similar to the Babolat pure aero.
-Serves: I thought the serves with this racket was lacking a bit of punch. This could be due to several reasons, swing weight and balance. However, I liked the spin I was able to generate on my second serve or my slice serves. Overall it was good but not my favorite when it comes to hitting flat and picking spots.
-Volleys: Volleys with this racket felt solid and was able to switch between backhand and forehand very quickly. The balance of this racket really helps me stay active near the net and not being late to any volleys. I also liked the stability of my volleys when timed correctly.
-Serve returns: I have mixed opinions on the serve returns. When playing singles, I liked that it was nice and loopy and it gave me time to recover back to the middle. However, I wasn't to punish second serves that well. Not sure what the problem was but I was simply not getting the racket speed that I was hoping for. When playing doubles, I didn't really like how it played since it was hard to hit fast fit it. But, it was maneuverable and easy to swing and I never really felt "late."
Comments on racquet performance in each area (should be 2-3 sentences minimum)
Power/Control- This racket had decent power and very good control. The spin helped most balls land in as long as I don't hit too flat. The power was ok and maybe could have been a little lower per my personal liking.
Top Spin/Slice- This is where the racket really played well. I use a 18 x 20 Wilson blade and this is a completely different feeling. The launch angle was one thing that stood out the most. My ball was cleaning the net about double what my usual net clearance was. Also, there was a lot more spin when just hitting the ball. However, my hitting partner was telling me that the ball didn't feel as heavy with the dunlop racket.
Comfort- The comfort of this racket was really good. When strung with both strings, the racket felt comfortable and was easy to use.
Feel- The feel of the racket felt alright. It wasn't excellent and it wasn't bad. I liked that you could feel where the ball hit the strings when I was hitting with it, but at times it felt a bit muted.
Maneuverability- This racket was very maneuverable. It felt very whippy, similar to that of the babolat pure aero. I think the swing weight is also slightly lower than I am used to so that also played an impact in it being maneuverable.
Stability- Usually Dunlop Rackets of the past that I have played with don't feel too stable. I really like the stability of this racket. When hitting against heavy tocsin players, I was able to pocket and respond well. I think It may be due to the thicker frame, but overall it felt really good.
General reaction/comments on overall performance:
I think this racket played very well overall. I used Dunlop Rackets all throughout my junior days and had to switch to Wilson since I wasn't getting the stability and feel I was looking for. However, this racket was both stable and felt really nice. I personally don't use open string patterns but I think this is a great option for anyone that likes a lot of spin and has more of a loopy swing motions.
SX 300 or SX 300 Tour?String and tension used for test: Dunlop Iconic All 52 lbs.
I've been testing it at my spec. At my spec, it's stability is very good. To be honest, most frames are once you give it a good swing weight for instance. But stability isn't one of its downsides, so I'd say you likely did indeed get a underspec one and that would explain the stability issue you've mentioned with it not being stable enough for 4.5s. Even most 5.5s aren't customising frames with added weight and the Pure Aero is one of the most common rackets I've seen along with the Blade etc. I'm saying this because this racket isn't far off in terms of stability to the pure aero and that's being used in stock by many great non professional players. That said, the average stock swing weight listed for the SX 300 is a little lower than the pure aero is it not?
I had 5 SX 300's measured for weight, balance, and swing weight when I got my test racket so I could pick one and accurately match it to my spec. The measurements were all over the place. One of them had an unstrung SW of 267 for instance, and it simply wouldn't have much stability for most players past a certain level. Again, in case someone reads this and thinks Dunlop have special standards of quality control, well, I've had some wild ones from most brands I've tried.