Tennis Warehouse Playtest: Head Prestige TW Exclusives

JFrijhoff

Rookie
I'm curious about the Prestige 16x19. The last few Prestige frames I used were a struggle for me to find power and I use synthetic gut strung low. I liked the i.Prestige MP XL and I even messed around with the Pro Tour 2 (basically a Prestige). I'd like to think that opening up the string bed a little would give it that something I feel it has been missing.

Now don't get me wrong..... I'm not saying it's not a good racquet as is. I would just like something control oriented with a little extra power and spin potential than the last few I have tried.

All of that said, I have really been liking my Head Gravity Pro the last two years. The 100 head size in an 18x20 has been good to me. I did not like the Head Gravity Tour but I also didn't give it a real tryout because I didn't receive an immediate boost or see a big difference between the Pro and the Tour.

In summary, I'd really like to tryout a 16x19. Maybe I could play like Andy Murray!
I really like the gravity Pro as well, it’s my favorite in feel, control, and hitting out comfortably. Having said that, currently in the newly-wed honeymoon phase with the prestige MP 2023. Only had one (intense) training session, but feels close (but not quite) to Gravity Pro, and much easier to play with. Similar power and spin I’d say, but more testing to be done. Haven’t played the PP 16x19 (because I don’t have it).
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
Attention Talk Tennis Members:

We had an unbelievable turnout for this playtest. it was probably one of our biggest behind the RF racquets in the last couple years. This is super exciting to see! We had a really small quantity and almost 100+ participants. We thank everyone for their willingness to participate and are so sorry to let some of you down. However, we already have a great lineup for 2025 so if you haven't been chosen yet, there are many more chances!

We wanted to give a couple tips on how to improve your chances on getting selected. Apply for string playtests first and leave detailed, thorough reviews. We generally have a larger amount of strings to send out for playtests and your chances are much higher of being selected. Additionally, it helps if you have a good history on the message board. It is ok if you are a new user but we like to see you consistently active. We also look for users that are participating in a positive way especially in the shoe, string and racquet sections. Bonus points if it a thread that is on the same product.

We like to make sure to spread the wealth. We try to give members a chance who were not selected to be on one of the last major playtests (racquet and shoes) within the last year.

Lastly, we will be shipping out of our CA warehouse.

If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us at discussadmin@tennis-warehouse.com and we would be happy to help.

Thanks,
TW Staff
Did more people apply for the 16 mains or the 18 mains?
 

dmtree

Rookie
Assuming I receive the PP, I’m a bit torn on what to string it up with in the playtest.

My regular string is either kev/zx or kev/poly. Sometimes kev/nylon if pattern is open. But I anticipate it might be a really low power frame.

Full poly suggestions in consideration. But I’m not really a poly guy, and I like my stringbed crisp and tight.

I often enjoy old school mid 50s flex mids with soft flex when strung with plain old syn gut.

I liked 1.20mm Lynx Tour in it, strung around 48lbs, as well as similar thin shaped polys like Black Code and PT Rev that have some pop, and not too low of a launch angle. I didn't love round pocketing strings like Hawk Touch or YPTP because they seemed less predictable in this racquet, at least with my mid RHS. Sorry haven't tried any syn gut hybrids in this one..
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
One of the first things I notice about the PP is that it has a rather elongated hoop shape. I consider this a good thing. I really enjoyed the elongated shape of the red headed prestige mid 360, and this one has similarly long oval shape but slightly larger head size. The elongated shape helps make it easier to shape the ball by preserving more tension differential between mains and crosses, as the hoop can’t squash as easily.

This 2023 PP is the same hoop width as my 95si Dunlop Cx200 95, but 1/2” longer hoop.
 

10S-Junkie

Semi-Pro
One of the first things I notice about the PP is that it has a rather elongated hoop shape. I consider this a good thing. I really enjoyed the elongated shape of the red headed prestige mid 360, and this one has similarly long oval shape but slightly larger head size. The elongated shape helps make it easier to shape the ball by preserving more tension differential between mains and crosses, as the hoop can’t squash as easily.

This 2023 PP is the same hoop width as my 95si Dunlop Cx200 95, but 1/2” longer hoop.
Could I trouble you to measure and provide the length and width of the inner hoop of the PP?

I am interested in the 16 x 19 PP but I'd like to compare the measurements to my 95" Prince Tours.
 
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travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Could I trouble you to measure and provide the length and width of the inner hoop of the PP?

I am interested in the 16 x 19 PP but I'd like to compare the measurements to my 95" Prince Tours.
Will do.

Just strung her up with my all-time favorite gourmet hybrid, ashaway kevlar 1.30 / zx pro black, thoroughly prestretched, at 60 lbs.

Just bouncing the ball on the firm stringbed while lying on my couch, the soft feel of the impact is addictive. Makes me just want to keep bouncing it.

I’ve yet to do my review of course. But my first impression of the strung frame is that TW is going to sell a lot of these. The grippy ball-string impact feel on this 50s flex in the 20mm box beam is what a tennis racquet should feel like. This racquet is going to be the trend setter for the rest of the market.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Could I trouble you to measure and provide the length and width of the inner hoop of the PP?

I am interested in the 16 x 19 PP but I'd like to compare the measurements to my 95" Prince Tours.
Inside of hoop measures 13 inches by 9.5” on the nose.

Edit: the racquet measures 26-7/8” strung. I didn’t measure it unstrung yet, but it’s likely that my hoop is 1/8” squashed as freshly strung (and will gain a mm or two back after first several hits). Which means the unstrung inner hoop measurements would be more like 13-1/8” by 9.4” unstrung.
 

10S-Junkie

Semi-Pro
Inside of hoop measures 13 inches by 9.5” on the nose.

Edit: the racquet measures 26-7/8” strung. I didn’t measure it unstrung yet, but it’s likely that my hoop is 1/8” squashed as freshly strung (and will gain a mm or two back after first several hits). Which means the unstrung inner hoop measurements would be more like 13-1/8” by 9.4” unstrung.
Much appreciated! Looking forward to your review!
 

diredesire

Moderator
For those who received their package : any goodies included ? (Grips, string )
Two sets of string, Velocity MLT 16 and Lynx Touch in my package. Both 16g. Otherwise no.

Edit: Just adding some teaser/hype photos

@10S-Junkie, your question's been answered, but there are some photos in this album against a cutting mat with a ruler backdrop.

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This paint job is actually really difficult to photograph without tons of natural light...

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Dusted off an old friend to try to illustrate the luster/tone. The "maroon" is quite a bit purple for my tastes, and in some angles it's almost orange/green-ish tinged. I'm probably just partial to the classic(s') paint jobs, though.

On a side note, the Lynx Touch is quite an unusual string. I'll update with thoughts in the review, but it strung up feeling "thick" to my touch, I usually play a 1.25mm string, though. Just manipulating the strings with my fingers, I thought it deformed very easily when bending/kinking with relatively low "bounce back" (elasticity). I've found strings that feel that way tend to lose a lot of tension rather quickly. Stretch felt normal, if not low for a poly, and while the surface didn't feel slick to the touch, there was very little sticking when fanning weaves. I have a feeling this string will produce more spin for the gauge than expected. It's got a very eerie "cloudy eyes" vibe with the two-tone extrusion. Looking forward to actually hitting balls!

Edit 2: 338.4g strung. Probably won't bother measuring the balance point. Also like @travlerajm my frame came up a little short after stringing. I didn't think to measure beforehand, I assume this is deformation from stringing.
 
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Eilathen

New User
Man, I am quite jealous! I love the prestiges, always have! And I very much look forward to your MP reviews. I have a 2021 MP and am very curious to see what you think about the 23 version. If someone can compare to the 21 version, that'd be awesome.

I really hope TW Europe will start doing racket playtests as well. I'd love to be a part of that. I have been a reviewer for books and games in the past, and I loved it. And Tennis has been a big passion of mine, sportswise. Anyway...as said, very much looking forward to all those reviews.

And man, those 23 Prestiges look good! They do have the right paintjob to trigger nostalgia :D
 

Eilathen

New User
*sigh* Beautiful frame...

Anyway, I played with my Prestige MP 2021 today. I haven't played with it for a while (prefered to hit with the MP L and the Speed Pro 2022 the last couple of times). I have to say, great stick! The feel is really good and control has always been the hallmark of the Prestige line and that is no different with this one. But the MP also packs considerable punch, imho! I was able to create pretty good pace with it (and needed to, because my hitting partner plays a very heavy ball, he was a top player in his younger days, late teens and through his twenties). Drop shots were easy with this one as well (I strung it with 23 kg, but the strings have been on the frame for a bit, so I am sure it lost tension).
For me, the P MP 2021 (at least the one i have, unfortunately unmeasured) feels close to the threshold of SW that i want to swing around. It's not like i lack the strength/athleticness, but at these specs (TW racketfinder says 334 SW and 3 pts HL) the racket is not as maneuverable as I'd like. So I'm very curious to hear from you guys who'll get a P MP 2023. The TWE website seems to have a SW that is a little bit lower than with the 21 version.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I will ultimately post a full review. But I’m going to also post some interim reports as I go.

On first hit, I found that the ball response was crisper than I anticipated. Didn’t feel like 58 Ra. But the flex was just enough to provide some controlled grab.

Despite this being the stock specs still, with me accustomed to playing with much heavier, beefier racquets, Getting used to reaction volleys felt quite natural. Racquet maneuverability felt quick and responsive, and volleys felt clean and crisp.

PP Playtest Stock Spec - volley drill
 
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travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Some of you know me as the guy who posts clips of me wall-hitting groundies using a heavy racquet with swingweight in the 360s, 370s, 380s, or even 400sw.

I don’t know if I’ve ever posted what I look like hitting with a stock frame. The PP wasn’t that hard for me to adjust to. The power level was of course significantly lower than my usual high-sw beastly spec customized racquets. But the ball shape and launch angle were very predictable off the stringbed.

The racquet felt well-balanced for groundies on both wings. Compared to my usual racquet, this lighter spec almost felt like it allowed me to be lazier with my footwork, because my hand was quicker to get the racquet into position. And I was taking more deliberate cuts on the forehand than I usually do. The lower power level on the 2hb made me feel inclined to take flatter cuts with lower trajectory than I ordinarily do.

I should note that the low power level was in part due to me stringing at my usual firm higher tension, which is more suitable for a heavier custom weighting. If I were to play a match with this racquet in stock form, I would opt for a softer stringbed at a bit lower tension.

Bottom line is that it wasn’t giving me free power, but I could easily keep the wall rally going with single bounce strokes and very repeatable depth control indefinitely as long as I wanted with this control oriented stick. And I’m a player who craves to maximize control.

Vid clip below is mostly forehands, with a few 2hb at the end.

Prestige Pro First Test Hit
 
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travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I also played some rally points this afternoon outdoor in cool 52F Seattle November conditions.

I only played a few points and felt uncomfortable with my overall game in the cold with the lower power level and high tension (as my style in singles rally points is more finesse and geometry oriented than power oriented), and ended up switching to my regular high sw racquet. I would have needed to either string it looser for the cold conditions, or add some mass to the racquet.

Then at the end, I hit a few serves with the Prestige Pro. It had surprising nice pop, with pretty nice balance for generating racquet speed. My serves were coming in with more power than with my usual racquet. But I was craving a bit more head mass to be able to grab the ball better for my kicker. My serving style is to rely mainly on hitting an American twist as my default my serve , using the unpredictability of the bounce angle. In stock form, this racquet felt better suited to a flatter serve style. I would need to add some hoop weight to be able to bum end the ball the way I like to.

I’m looking forward to setting up the racquet with some extra mass to better suit my serve style. It seems like a nice form factor for serving with the thin beam and medium flex. As I’ve already mentioned, this frame plays crisper in stock form than the 58 RA rating. I believe it’s partly due to the full cap grommet adding some mass in the lower hoop relative to other racquets of similar spec.
 
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diredesire

Moderator
@travlerajm - interesting notes. I'm coming from the other side, where I've been playing with lighter frames because I've not been regularly playing, and it allows for a lot more sloppiness. I've been demoing a handful of the Dunlop LS models at around 300g, so the PP 16x19 was an interesting change of pace. I thought the frame also played crisper than a 58 RA, but it also played a LOT more powerful than I expected. I strung it lower than I normally would due to the anticipated power level (53 lbs). Overall frame feel was rather muted for me, but I prefer borderline harsh feeling frames. I used to play several of the more classic Prince frames (POG OS/Mid, various changs, etc.), so heavier/higher SW frames aren't foreign to me by any means.

I thought this frame played very maneuverable for its weight in stock form, it came through the stroke path very quickly on groundstrokes. I also realized that I'm definitely mildly swinging on my volleys with the lighter frames to give it a little extra juice. I was dumping a lot of volleys into the net, especially when I was getting wristy-flicky. I can get away with that with light frames, but simpler form would work better at net.

I served fine with the PP 16x19, but I was definitely shouldering the ball to get the frame moving. I've had a bum shoulder forever, so this was pretty immediately noticeable. I found the bite to be more than adequate even with a thicker string than I normally play.

This is also my first impression notes - I'll probably end up cutting the lynx touch out after one more session just because I went too loose. I'm interested in putting a more standard poly hybrid in as a "neutral" bed that I know well, and I'll probably be going up +5-10 lbs just to see what happens. I normally play in the 60+ lbs range in general (and restring often).

I'm hoping for a little less rebound and a little more response on touch shots.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
@travlerajm - interesting notes. I'm coming from the other side, where I've been playing with lighter frames because I've not been regularly playing, and it allows for a lot more sloppiness. I've been demoing a handful of the Dunlop LS models at around 300g, so the PP 16x19 was an interesting change of pace. I thought the frame also played crisper than a 58 RA, but it also played a LOT more powerful than I expected. I strung it lower than I normally would due to the anticipated power level (53 lbs). Overall frame feel was rather muted for me, but I prefer borderline harsh feeling frames. I used to play several of the more classic Prince frames (POG OS/Mid, various changs, etc.), so heavier/higher SW frames aren't foreign to me by any means.

I thought this frame played very maneuverable for its weight in stock form, it came through the stroke path very quickly on groundstrokes. I also realized that I'm definitely mildly swinging on my volleys with the lighter frames to give it a little extra juice. I was dumping a lot of volleys into the net, especially when I was getting wristy-flicky. I can get away with that with light frames, but simpler form would work better at net.

I served fine with the PP 16x19, but I was definitely shouldering the ball to get the frame moving. I've had a bum shoulder forever, so this was pretty immediately noticeable. I found the bite to be more than adequate even with a thicker string than I normally play.

This is also my first impression notes - I'll probably end up cutting the lynx touch out after one more session just because I went too loose. I'm interested in putting a more standard poly hybrid in as a "neutral" bed that I know well, and I'll probably be going up +5-10 lbs just to see what happens. I normally play in the 60+ lbs range in general (and restring often).

I'm hoping for a little less rebound and a little more response on touch shots.
This goes to show that it’s really important to note what type of racquet you’re used to in these reviews, because the perspective is relative to that.

If I’m being honest, I think this Prestige Pro seems like a terrific platform frame with nice form factor, combo of flex and torsional stability, and ball feel for an all-arounder singles/doubles stick, but I confess in stock form it’s too lightweight for my tastes and current playstyle, as once you play for years with heavyweight specs like I have, it’s hard to go back.

I’m really looking forward to getting out my gorilla tape and going to work to see if I can transform this into my personalized weapon of choice, to make my next run thru usta leagues more interesting.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I will ultimately post a full review. But I’m going to also post some interim reports as I go.

On first hit, I found that the ball response was crisper than I anticipated. Didn’t feel like 58 Ra. But the flex was just enough to provide some controlled grab.

Despite this being the stock specs still, with me accustomed to playing with much heavier, beefier racquets, Getting used to reaction volleys felt quite natural. Racquet maneuverability felt quick and responsive, and volleys felt clean and crisp.

PP Playtest Stock Spec - volley drill
You’re allowed to move you’re feet on the volley.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I usually am forced to move my feet like below. But the point of the vid was that was that with the accuracy and consistent stringbed response of the prestige pro, I didn’t have to.

I don’t know if you know this or not but tennis is ground up sport. So yes, you should always practice, drill with the correct technique so it’s in your DNA and unconscious. People focus too much on what the hand is doing when it’s what’s happening with your footwork that’s most important. I’ve never heard any say I didn’t have to move and I was forced to move.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I don’t know if you know this or not but tennis is ground up sport. So yes, you should always practice, drill with the correct technique so it’s in your DNA and unconscious. People focus too much on what the hand is doing when it’s what’s happening with your footwork that’s most important. I’ve never heard any say I didn’t have to move and I was forced to move.
Tell that to Cara Black.
 

taylor15

Hall of Fame
I don’t know if you know this or not but tennis is ground up sport. So yes, you should always practice, drill with the correct technique so it’s in your DNA and unconscious. People focus too much on what the hand is doing when it’s what’s happening with your footwork that’s most important. I’ve never heard any say I didn’t have to move and I was forced to move.
It’s funny you said this, bc I heard a coach at our academy comment how kids always want to shadow a swing when they miss, but they never shadow their awful footwork they was the real issue. He said after a certain level of ability almost every miss is footwork.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
It’s funny you said this, bc I heard a coach at our academy comment how kids always want to shadow a swing when they miss, but they never shadow their awful footwork they was the real issue. He said after a certain level of ability almost every miss is footwork.
Most of the time why you miss is because of poor footwork and people are too focused on what they are doing with their hands.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I was lucky enough to get in the play test. My frame is arriving today. I’m going to string it and play tomorrow or possibly hit the ball machine today. I am getting the MP (I think).
I do like the cosmetics very much on this frame.
Thanks TW.
 

BenC

Hall of Fame
Ball machine session.

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Be nice, coming back from an month-long injury break.

Recoil weight is high for me. I'm short (5'7") with a shorter wingspan (5'4") and there's a definite feeling of 'pulling' the racquet head and not having enough fine control at contact. I've done what I could with this racquet unmodified, and have now started adding tail weight to shift the balance point and reduce the recoil weight.

Reference: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/who-cares-about-recoil-weight.745506/
 
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tele

Hall of Fame
Ball machine session.

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Be nice, coming back from an month-long injury break.



Recoil weight is high for me. I'm short (5'7") with a shorter wingspan (5'4") and there's a definite feeling of 'pulling' the racquet head and not having enough fine control at contact. I've done what I could with this racquet unmodified, and have now started adding tail weight to shift the balance point and reduce the recoil weight.

Reference: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/who-cares-about-recoil-weight.745506/
you cannot reduce recoil weight by adding weight (I personally wouldn't worry about recoil weight too much anyway), but a more headlight balance could make it feel more maneuverable.
 

BenC

Hall of Fame
you cannot reduce recoil weight by adding weight (I personally wouldn't worry about recoil weight too much anyway), but a more headlight balance could make it feel more maneuverable.
did you mean swingweight? because SW didn't change much if at all from adding weight to the handle, but recoil weight did (at least as defined by the formulas in that thread above).

anyway, that's a topic for different thread.
 

tele

Hall of Fame
did you mean swingweight? because SW didn't change much if at all from adding weight to the handle, but recoil weight did (at least as defined by the formulas in that thread above).

anyway, that's a topic for different thread.
No, I meant recoil weight. Adding handle weight increases recoil weight (unless the balance point is in the handle for some reason). I agree it is best not to clog up this thread with a discussion of recoil weight. We can discuss it via PM if you want the formulas/a way to verify it yourself. Either way, looking forward to your review!
 
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ChrisJR3264

Hall of Fame
I might need to remove the Djoko dampener since it adds 3+ grams sadly.

Strung it at 52 lbs - with razor code 1.25. Overgrip. L3 feels quite small for me in the head pallet.

Will be a fun hit play session. Came with a set of Lynx tour and lynx touch 17 G. Will throw that in after a few hours
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Well, I did receive mine last night from UPS around 7:30 PM. @vsbabolat is right, pictures do not do it justice. This is one seriously good looking frame. And I love the glossy maroon and exposed graphite. I strung it up with Yonex Rexis Speed 1.25 at 50/47. Going to play here in about an hour. I'm hopeful this frame plays half as good as it looks! I love the glossy paint -- paying attention all you other manufacturers? I received the MP in 3/8.

More to come....
 
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ChrisJR3264

Hall of Fame
I hit for 90 minutes today with the MP.
Maybe strung a tad too high at 52 lbs with the razor code. Will continue to break in the string.
So far - it feels like a gravity pro in relation to the plush feeling. Not as spin friendly and a much lower launch angle than the gravity and tfight. Will continue to play test.
 

ObiWanHBH

New User
I liked 1.20mm Lynx Tour in it, strung around 48lbs, as well as similar thin shaped polys like Black Code and PT Rev that have some pop, and not too low of a launch angle. I didn't love round pocketing strings like Hawk Touch or YPTP because they seemed less predictable in this racquet, at least with my mid RHS. Sorry haven't tried any syn gut hybrids in this one..
I’ve been playtesting my own Prestige MP 2021 vs a Gravity MP and Ezone 100 (both weighted to 326g or so) and the Prestige is great with Hyper G round/Hyper G at 47#/45#.
 

TennisBros

New User
I’ve been playtesting my own Prestige MP 2021 vs a Gravity MP and Ezone 100 (both weighted to 326g or so) and the Prestige is great with Hyper G round/Hyper G at 47#/45#.
lol same. I am borrowing a friends Prestige MP 2021 and seeing how well it plays. I had a question to you though: "when striking through the ball with the 2021 MP, do you get this abnormal high pitch/vibtration through out the racket?" Am asking cuz im also comparing it to the Pro 2021
 

Eilathen

New User
lol same. I am borrowing a friends Prestige MP 2021 and seeing how well it plays. I had a question to you though: "when striking through the ball with the 2021 MP, do you get this abnormal high pitch/vibtration through out the racket?" Am asking cuz im also comparing it to the Pro 2021
As someone who also has a P MP 2021, no, can't say I do. I hit with it last Sunday and reported about it in this thread. No abnormalities on my end.

It's a great frame! I'd really like to compare it to its 23 sibling. I doubt any store in my neck of the woods is carying one for testing, though.
 

TennisBros

New User
yea probably something on my end then. Was too eager to try it and played with it right after I strung it and wasn't really playing haha I took it to coach.

but yea! same, I want to compare it to the 2023, I am falling in love with the feeling of 2021 pro and I would assume that The 2021 pro and 2023 MP might feel similar through the air since they are speced very similarly, except with probably with more forgiveness (probably "more" isnt the right word, maybe marginally forgiving) and more power. Are you gonna try to customize your MP like boost the HL, if you did get the 2023 MP?
 

Eilathen

New User
The MP is 10g lighter than the Pro, if i remember corretly (310g unstrung vs. 320g) but the Pro is more HL than the MP. The strung stats of the 21 MP are overall lighter in static weight but more HH than the Pro. Not sure about the SW of the Pro. I mentioned above that TW Racquetfinder has the SW of the 21 MP at 334. The MP has a 99 sq.in vs the 98 sq.in of the Pro. I think this more or less carries over to the 23 verions. The new MP is a bit less in SW compared to the 21 MP, but not by a lot. I wish the MP were a bit more HL than it is.

I do think the MP is more forgiving than the Pro as well. But can't really comment because I have not played with the Pro, neither the 21 nor the 23 version. I solely guess that on specs alone. The last Prestige Pro i did play with was ages ago and still a 600 cm^2 frame with much more static weight than the newer Prestiges.
I'd be really curious to try the 23 MP L as well. I really dig the 21 P MP L as well. Anyway, way too many good Head racquets out there...and other brands as well, for that matter.

Sorry for cluttering up the thread, I'll shut up now.
 

dmtree

Rookie
yea probably something on my end then. Was too eager to try it and played with it right after I strung it and wasn't really playing haha I took it to coach.

but yea! same, I want to compare it to the 2023, I am falling in love with the feeling of 2021 pro and I would assume that The 2021 pro and 2023 MP might feel similar through the air since they are speced very similarly, except with probably with more forgiveness (probably "more" isnt the right word, maybe marginally forgiving) and more power. Are you gonna try to customize your MP like boost the HL, if you did get the 2023 MP?

The 2021 Pro is not that similar to the 2023 MP.. The MP is more powerful and forgiving, great at defense and getting the ball back against hard hitters, with placement and angles. Really reminded me of a weighted up Gravity MP, but with more precision and feel, and less spin.

2021 Pro is an amazing precision attack frame, but good luck if you are trying to return pace when out of position.
 
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TennisBros

New User
The MP is 10g lighter than the Pro, if i remember corretly (310g unstrung vs. 320g) but the Pro is more HL than the MP. The strung stats of the 21 MP are overall lighter in static weight but more HH than the Pro. Not sure about the SW of the Pro. I mentioned above that TW Racquetfinder has the SW of the 21 MP at 334. The MP has a 99 sq.in vs the 98 sq.in of the Pro. I think this more or less carries over to the 23 verions. The new MP is a bit less in SW compared to the 21 MP, but not by a lot. I wish the MP were a bit more HL than it is.

I do think the MP is more forgiving than the Pro as well. But can't really comment because I have not played with the Pro, neither the 21 nor the 23 version. I solely guess that on specs alone. The last Prestige Pro i did play with was ages ago and still a 600 cm^2 frame with much more static weight than the newer Prestiges.
I'd be really curious to try the 23 MP L as well. I really dig the 21 P MP L as well. Anyway, way too many good Head racquets out there...and other brands as well, for that matter.

Sorry for cluttering up the thread, I'll shut up now.
lol you are right, thank you for the correction. Had too many tabs open. I grabbed the 2021 pp and 2021 mp and the 2023 mp SW from TW review
2021 pp- TW-Head Prestige Pro 2021 Review
2021 MP- TW- Head Prestige MP 2021 Review
2023 MP- TW- Head Prestige MP 2023 Review

got the grams of the 2021 pro and mp mixed up, but kept the SW of of the 2021 Pro to compare to the 2023 MP. not as close as I previously thought
 
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