@SlowTiger - Depends. 55 would make for a nice comparison baseline to regular Velocity. If you were more interested in an identical rebound response and power profile, though, then yes, I'd probably string closer to Xcel territory. Perhaps 57?
@d-quik I'll likely be string crosses 2-3 lbs higher than my mains (my standard set up) , unless I put them into a Yonex then equal.IS ANYONE GOING TO STRING THE CROSSES LOWER THAN MAINS?
These are supposedly more slippery than average so that should help a bit with the durability!![]()
@Trip, I'm Looking forward to your thoughts. I won't have time to playtest frames this summer, so I will rely on your input. When I couldn't get Velocity Reels during the COVID shortages, I picked up five reels of the original Yonex Rexis (discontinued). I have a few clients who prefer it over Velocity. Yonex SuperTour 850 is another excellent option for people who like crisp multis like X1 but don't like the price of X1.Still awaiting my delivery (these tend to ship from California, and I'm in western NY).
I have three other multi's in my possession:
Solinco Vanquish
TruPro Triumph
Babolat Xcel
If anyone has experience with those three let me know if they seem at all similar to this one.
@g4driver - Nice to see you on here again. I'll give my review everything I've got! Hopefully it will be of some value.@Trip, I'm Looking forward to your thoughts. I won't have time to playtest frames this summer, so I will rely on your input.
Now you guys are getting me to think about comparing this to regular Velocity - I've got sets in my closet to use for my wife and daughter's string jobs, and if I have a decent gap in my upcoming USTA league matches, I just might extend this playtest to include a direct comparison (I've only been using full beds of poly for competitive play)
To quote a great user ^^^
@g4driver really appreciate the input.
The TW product page for Velocity Power says X1 is a similar string so maybe I will just pony up to do a proper comparison of the two.
Never used X1, but always like trying new strings.
Thanks again
Just send me the X1, seems easier [and cheaper]I have X-1 strung up in a Blade 100L. I'd love to do a direct comparison, but my other Blade 100L has a relatively fresh full bed of Natural Gut. I'm not willing to cut that out. LOL. My Blade 100 has a pretty fresh hybrid. I do have another pack of X-1 in 16g, so maybe I can put these strings in dueling Blade 98 18x20s.
Just send me the X1, seems easier [and cheaper]![]()
Why not stick with 48 lbs?Still haven't decided on a second multi to compare. [Decisions, decisions..]
Velocity is much more muted than X1. I string Velocity primarily as a cross and use more Velocity than any other multi.@g4driver really appreciate the input.
The TW product page for Velocity Power says X1 is a similar string so maybe I will just pony up to do a proper comparison of the two.
Never used X1, but always like trying new strings.
Thanks again
Seems like it'd be too powerful and launchyWhy not stick with 48 lbs?
Seems like it'd be too powerful and launchy
@Fighting phoenix ... not to get off topic, but ... Did you see where the Pure Strikes are all on sale now? I guess it's a memorial for Dominic Thiem's career now that he's retiring. Some pretty sweet deals.Yeah the MP-L is probably your best bet. I would use a more controlled frame, but since I've been playing exclusively with the Pure Strike 100 16x20 for a couple of months now, I'll be in a much better position to judge how I feel about the strings if I keep that variable constant. Might be hard for me to keep the ball in the court given that I'm playing with polys exclusively - however, I was a syn gut Pure Strike 98 user for a good 5 years not that long ago ;-)
Yeah thx I did see that! This generation (v4) of the strikes is so much better than gen 3 from 2019, that I’m happy spending the extra money vs these that are on sale@Fighting phoenix ... not to get off topic, but ... Did you see where the Pure Strikes are all on sale now? I guess it's a memorial for Dominic Thiem's career now that he's retiring. Some pretty sweet deals.
Me too! Thanks for posting I was beginning to worry it was lost in mail...Still awaiting my delivery (these tend to ship from California, and I'm in western NY).
As of now, my plan is to put it into an Auxetic 1.0 Prestige MP-L (99" 16x19, 8 throat mains) at fairly high tension, like 60/58 lockout (so ~57/55 eCP/dropweight), to really expose the feel and endurance ability.
Hey can I recommend that you make the playtesters also indicate what level they play at? I remember for the shoe reviews you required that the playtesters specify what level they rate themselves but do not see it as a requirement here.Velocity Power 1.30 playtest
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Include the following in your review:
Tension(s) used for playtest
Regular string set up
Racquet used for test
Control/Power of test string
Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable?)
Spin
Playability Duration (did the playability change over time? How? Did it notch and/or stop snapping back into position?)
Tension findings (would you use the same tension if you strung it again? Why? Why not?)
List any additional thoughts (optional)
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Jeez... what level are you or others rating yourself at? This type of brutal damage (only around an hour of hitting too) makes me think a 5.0?Velocity Power 1.30 playtest
Sorry this is so short. Velocity Power broke after 1 hour of play. I liked the string and felt it had great control.
Tension(s) used for playtest: 50pds
Regular string set up: Hyper G 17 @ 47pds
Racquet used for test: Babolat Aero 98Control: 8/10 Control was very good and directional control was on par for my groundstrokes. No issues with the ball going short or not having enough depth.
Power: 7/10 Power was good for not being a poly which I am accustomed to using. Didn’t feel like I had to swing harder or add extra pace. Could be smooth and hit my normal shots.
Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable?) The string was very soft and cushioning to me. After 20 minutes the strings notched, and fuzz started to accumulate in the sweet spot. I will add some pictures for reference. The string played well for the hour I was able to use it.
Spin: 6/10 Spin was decent, and I could vary the spin if needed for added shape on groundstrokes. So, Not as much as Hyper G but that is to be expected. Playability Duration (did the playability change over time? How? Did it notch and/or stop snapping back into position?) 2/10 The string was soft and playable for the first 20 minutes. After it notched and I had to move the strings back pretty consistenly. After 30 minutes I knew this would not last long. Around 50 minutes I was counting down the groundstrokes till it broke. But the string played awesome, and I could rip the ball without fear of spraying it long.
Tension findings (would you use the same tension if you strung it again? Why? Why not?) I liked the tension that was on it and would not change it again. 50pds was perfect for me. I went up since it was not a stiff string. Was great to hit and play with at 50pds.
List any additional thoughts (optional): I liked this string but for 1 hour of play I would need to restring a lot. So for me that is a deal breaker. I think as a hybrid this would last maybe 2 or 3 more hours but I still would be stringing to much.
First 2 pictures are after about 20 minutes of hitting.
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@d-quik , You are correct. I am rated 5.0, it's a bit of tennis purgatory because 5.0 is such a small field for tournaments and leagues but I can fill my time with TW playtest till I get bumped down to 4.5Hey can I recommend that you make the playtesters also indicate what level they play at? I remember for the shoe reviews you required that the playtesters specify what level they rate themselves but do not see it as a requirement here.
Jeez... what level are you or others rating yourself at? This type of brutal damage (only around an hour of hitting too) makes me think a 5.0?
Shocker. Are you a regular string breaker? do you ever use multi otherwise?Velocity Power 1.30 playtest
Sorry this is so short. Velocity Power broke after 1 hour of play. I liked the string and felt it had great control.
Tension(s) used for playtest: 50pds
Regular string set up: Hyper G 17 @ 47pds
Racquet used for test: Babolat Aero 98Control: 8/10 Control was very good and directional control was on par for my groundstrokes. No issues with the ball going short or not having enough depth.
Power: 7/10 Power was good for not being a poly which I am accustomed to using. Didn’t feel like I had to swing harder or add extra pace. Could be smooth and hit my normal shots.
Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable?) The string was very soft and cushioning to me. After 20 minutes the strings notched, and fuzz started to accumulate in the sweet spot. I will add some pictures for reference. The string played well for the hour I was able to use it.
Spin: 6/10 Spin was decent, and I could vary the spin if needed for added shape on groundstrokes. So, Not as much as Hyper G but that is to be expected. Playability Duration (did the playability change over time? How? Did it notch and/or stop snapping back into position?) 2/10 The string was soft and playable for the first 20 minutes. After it notched and I had to move the strings back pretty consistenly. After 30 minutes I knew this would not last long. Around 50 minutes I was counting down the groundstrokes till it broke. But the string played awesome, and I could rip the ball without fear of spraying it long.
Tension findings (would you use the same tension if you strung it again? Why? Why not?) I liked the tension that was on it and would not change it again. 50pds was perfect for me. I went up since it was not a stiff string. Was great to hit and play with at 50pds.
List any additional thoughts (optional): I liked this string but for 1 hour of play I would need to restring a lot. So for me that is a deal breaker. I think as a hybrid this would last maybe 2 or 3 more hours but I still would be stringing to much.
First 2 pictures are after about 20 minutes of hitting.
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Sheesh! I imagine if you play tested the 17/1.25 gauge, you would have easily broken the strings in 30 minutes!Velocity Power 1.30 playtest
Sorry this is so short. Velocity Power broke after 1 hour of play. I liked the string and felt it had great control.
Tension(s) used for playtest: 50pds
Regular string set up: Hyper G 17 @ 47pds
Racquet used for test: Babolat Aero 98Control: 8/10 Control was very good and directional control was on par for my groundstrokes. No issues with the ball going short or not having enough depth.
Power: 7/10 Power was good for not being a poly which I am accustomed to using. Didn’t feel like I had to swing harder or add extra pace. Could be smooth and hit my normal shots.
Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable?) The string was very soft and cushioning to me. After 20 minutes the strings notched, and fuzz started to accumulate in the sweet spot. I will add some pictures for reference. The string played well for the hour I was able to use it.
Spin: 6/10 Spin was decent, and I could vary the spin if needed for added shape on groundstrokes. So, Not as much as Hyper G but that is to be expected. Playability Duration (did the playability change over time? How? Did it notch and/or stop snapping back into position?) 2/10 The string was soft and playable for the first 20 minutes. After it notched and I had to move the strings back pretty consistenly. After 30 minutes I knew this would not last long. Around 50 minutes I was counting down the groundstrokes till it broke. But the string played awesome, and I could rip the ball without fear of spraying it long.
Tension findings (would you use the same tension if you strung it again? Why? Why not?) I liked the tension that was on it and would not change it again. 50pds was perfect for me. I went up since it was not a stiff string. Was great to hit and play with at 50pds.
List any additional thoughts (optional): I liked this string but for 1 hour of play I would need to restring a lot. So for me that is a deal breaker. I think as a hybrid this would last maybe 2 or 3 more hours but I still would be stringing to much.
First 2 pictures are after about 20 minutes of hitting.
It broke in the center, he said he's a 5.0 player, you can see the notches in the picture and it's a soft multifilament.Shocker. Are you a regular string breaker? do you ever use multi otherwise?
I think they should sent you another set, to see if it happens again - once can be chance. If it happens twice, would be a real issue with the string for some users...
I agree - he put the strings to the test and they broke from use not some off chance.It broke in the center, he said he's a 5.0 player, you can see the notches in the picture and it's a soft multifilament.
This is an expected result.
I'm a 4.0, using an 18x20, and expect it to break in 6-7hrs.
Honestly if I was in charge of finding playtesters for a multifilament I might actually require everyone who qualifies to be users of racquets that contain 18 mains LOLusing an 18x20
I used Hyper G round and Vanquish for another TW playtest and that was great but again they don't last very long for me. I definitely need a poly or poly blend. If not I will be stringing non stop. Velocity felt really good to me. I have used NXT before and wilson sensation. Velocity is better and more stable in my opinion. Usually when using a multi there is a lot of variance hitting the same ground strokes because it's not as stiff. Velocity felt pretty stable and I think that the outer layer wrap helped to get the ball to be consistent off the string bed. HEAD is doing well in their string development.Shocker. Are you a regular string breaker? do you ever use multi otherwise?
I think they should sent you another set, to see if it happens again - once can be chance. If it happens twice, would be a real issue with the string for some users...
I though a 16x20 would last a little longer but I am interested to see how an 18x20 would do on court.Sheesh! I imagine if you play tested the 17/1.25 gauge, you would have easily broken the strings in 30 minutes!
@Trip It's always a balancing act. I started this a few years ago and felt it gave me a better feel, control and a bit more spin especially since I tend to string a little lower for polys ( usually use a shaped poly / round poly hybrid) . I've tried all kinds of crazy tensions and this generally works well for me. If something else works better - I'll use that!@StringStrungStrang - Any particular reason? Do you prefer a bit less mains movement and/or a lower launch angle? Because that's what I typically get when bumping up cross tension over mains tension.
The smell reminds me of Leonia 66 ? 77 or Gamma Gut 1 when you opened a pack BITD.My sample arrived yesterday afternoon and was strung this morning. I decided to use the Babolat Pure Strike 100 16x20 for this playtest.
I've had RPM Rough installed, but pretty much unable to use it due to elbow issues that I developed shortly after stringing it. That said, it is strung with Head Velocity Power and ready to rock!
The very first thing I noticed was the smell. I can't put a finger on what it reminds me of, but it's something from a long way back. It's very unique. I just can't put a finger on it. Next, I noticed that it was VERY easy to weave the crosses. It felt like a thinner gauge when weaving. Also, it ghosts pretty easily. I didn't have any slipping through my clamps, but I could very easily see where the clamps were clamped. Same with the starting clamp and the tension head. It reminded me of Babolat Xcel in this regard.
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Not surprised at all. I can't imagine multi's lasting any longer than SG.Dang. Two playtesters have broken strings and I haven't even hit with mine yet.
@Trip, I'm Looking forward to your thoughts. I won't have time to playtest frames this summer, so I will rely on your input. When I couldn't get Velocity Reels during the COVID shortages, I picked up five reels of the original Yonex Rexis (discontinued). I have a few clients who prefer it over Velocity. Yonex SuperTour 850 is another excellent option for people who like crisp multis like X1 but don't like the price of X1.
Yonex Super 850 Tour vs Rexis
Has anyone tried these 2 strings? What's the difference? The Rexis appears to not have any wraps, so I worry about its durability. How does it hold up compared to the 850 Tour. Also, is it as soft? Any other differences you can specify will be greatly appreciated.tt.tennis-warehouse.com
@Chairman3, my.02
I don't stock Vanquish and Xcel, two multis. Personally, I am not a fan of either.
-Vanquish is disappointing coming from Solinco. It is more expensive than Velocity and Tecnifibre Multifeel (MF) and breaks almost as fast as Wilson Sensation.
-Xcel is expensive and has a gummy feel. X1 feels crisp and is 180 degrees from Xcel at the same price point.
-For the price/performance, Technibre Multifeel Black is hard to beat.
If played with a multi and someone else was paying for the string, X1 Bi-Phase is my choice. When I first started buying reels around 2012, it was $175 MSRP a reel. The MSRP X1 reels rapidly went to $180, $190, $195, $245, $250, and $255, $275, $280 as Technibre was searching for the price point they wanted. X1 has settled in at $299.95 for at least six or seven years. It appears that $299.95 per reel is the upper limit for X1 Biphase despite infalution.
I've stated in the past but Technifibre makes the best multi strings. I like NRG2 and Bi-Phase a lot. I've used a ton in the past and those two are my favorite.
What would you say is the most powerful+slippery multifilament (slippery compared to OTHER multis, no multi will be as slippery as the most slippery polyester)? Just in general: it doesn't have to be made by Tecnifibre.I've stated in the past but Technifibre makes the best multi strings. I like NRG2 and Bi-Phase a lot. I've used a ton in the past and those two are my favorite.