Tennis Warehouse Playtest: Luxilon ECO Power & ECO Rough

basil J

Hall of Fame
I strung up the eco rough at 53# in a blade v8 18 x 20. Power , comfort and control are all excellent and I felt that this string is a very comfortable poly in a tight string bed. I have 4 hours of play on it so far and I have not seen any real tension loss yet. I usually play 90 minutes, 3-5 times a week and I usually get 4- 6 weeks out of my strings, longer If I go full gut. If they can keep the price down this would be a very viable option for me, but if they go out at $18.00 a set, the durablity is too low for my standards. I'm not a string breaker so that is usually not an issue. This string reminds me a bit of Prince Diabalo.
I got 6 hours out of this string before the feel completely went and it felt dead. Also gave my shoulder a twinge. Played beautifully up until the last session. I had to switch frames to my blade 16 x 19 that I strung up with eco power on the mains and NXT in the crosses. That played very nicely. I was surprised because I have not been a fan of ALU power in the past. I am not a big fan of constantly stringing my frames because strings become unplayable , so far the only way I see myself using rough is if the price came down, or if I was going into a weekend tourney, I would use this string.
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
Playtest deadline is approaching.

I currently have both strings strung up in a Wilson Blade 100L v8 with about 15 minutes difference in playtime. I will hit with them both at practice on Thursday and see how they compare side-by-side. I will likely post my final review of ECO Rough after practice on Thursday, and ECO Power after my match this coming Saturday.
 

SlowTiger

Professional
Playtest deadline is approaching.

I currently have both strings strung up in a Wilson Blade 100L v8 with about 15 minutes difference in playtime. I will hit with them both at practice on Thursday and see how they compare side-by-side. I will likely post my final review of ECO Rough after practice on Thursday, and ECO Power after my match this coming Saturday.
I actually wondered how these would play in a blade as I thought these strings were made for the current gen of Wilson racquets
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
I actually wondered how these would play in a blade as I thought these strings were made for the current gen of Wilson racquets

They play quite nice. I feel like the ECO Power, as of right now, is an excellent all around string. I feel like I'm generating more spin with the power string as opposed to the rough string. That seems counterintuitive, as I would expect the rough texture to aid in spin, but I guess the shape of the Power is what is helping it bite into the ball.

My wife and I went to hit some balls back and forth over my lunch break. I played with each for about 20-25 minutes, which isn't really enough time to get into any sort of rhythm. At this point, I don't feel like I have a clear winner.

For whatever it is worth, my play with the ECO Power has been much more consistent than it has with ECO Rough.
 

Alcawrath

Professional
Thank you again TW for the opportunity to participate in this playtest!!

Tension(s) used for playtest
  • ECO POWER - Strung up in my Wilson Blade V7 16x19 @ 55 lbs
  • ECO Rough - Strung up in my Wilson Blade V7 16x19 @ 55 lbs
Regular string setup & tension
  • Over the last year, my go-to-string has been Solinco Hyper G @ 55 lbs in my Wilson Blade V7. While I’ve recently started using a Babolat Pure Aero 98 within the last month, I wanted to test these strings in a much more familiar set up so I could be more objective.

Racquet(s) used for test
  • Wilson Blade V7 16x19 w/ a 4 ½ “ grip size. The only racquet modification I've made is to install a leather grip.
Power/Control
  • ECO POWER
    • The ECO POWER played somewhat similar to Hyper G in terms of power and control. It played noticeably more dead than Hyper G. Due to its dead feeling, It was extremely predictable in terms of control compared to my normal Hyper G setup. Honestly, while I've only played them once before, this string reminded me more of Volkl Cyclone than Hyper Gs in general.
  • ECO Rough
    • ECO Rough had significantly more power than the ECO POWER. As a textured round string, it felt like it had greater elasticity and greater launch as a result. Prior to settling on Hyper Gs, I played ALU Power in my blade, and ECO Rough reminded me a lot of ALU Power. Since I prefer sided strings to help with control, the ECO Rough felt a little less controllable for me, but if you regularly use round strings then I doubt you would have a control issue with this one.
Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
  • ECO POWER
    • This string felt stiff and even harsher than Hyper G. However, this is not a detractor for me. If not for the teal color that really clashes with any frames I have, I would buy a few more packs of this string to keep playing it.
  • ECO Rough
    • This string had a much more comfortable feel to it. Not too mushy, not too crisp or harsh. While I enjoy the spin I get with a sided string, this was much nicer to hit with speaking strictly of how contact with the ball felt.
Spin
  • ECO POWER
    • This is a sharp-sided string that is on par with Hyper G, and the bite on the ball generated by this string imparts the spin and control that you would expect with it.
  • ECO Rough
    • As a textured round string, this string imparts plenty of spin on the ball as long as your technique allows for it. This string isn’t going to necessarily help add spin to the ball, it will simply showcase your swing mechanics.
Playability Duration - I’ve played about ~8 hours with each string
  • ECO POWER
    • Here is where the ECO strings really fell off for me. With my Hyper G setup, I can usually get anywhere from about 7-10 hours of solid performance from my strings. ECO POWER definitely lasted all 8 hours that I’ve used them without breaking, but they seemed to bag out after about 4-6 hours which is a significant dropoff in performance compared to their Hyper G competition.
  • ECO Rough
    • I don’t believe ECO Rough has the same issue as ECO POWER regarding durability. Since I found Eco Rough to compare most to ALU Power, it is on par with its competition when I say it lasts 4-6 hours before performance drops off to affect playability. If I were looking for an eco-friendly replacement for ALU power, I might seriously consider this one.
Tension Recommendations
  • ECO POWER - 55 lbs felt comfortable for me on this one. It played similarly to my preferred setup of Hyper G at 55 lbs, so that is what I would go with.
  • ECO Rough - Since I struggle a little with round strings to achieve the same predictability and control that I get with sided strings, I might try stringing this one at 57 or 58 lbs to rein in my depth.
List any additional thoughts
  • I really enjoyed trying these out and am genuinely interested in playing more environmentally friendly strings. However, please continue research & development to find an alternative to the dark teal of the ECO POWER. It really is ugly in the wrong frames and unfortunately, I have the wrong frames for this string.
  • Thanks again Luxilon and Tennis Warehouse!!
 
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Fighting phoenix

Professional
Thank you again TW for the opportunity to participate in this playtest!!

Tension(s) used for playtest
  • ECO POWER - Strung up in my Wilson Blade V7 16x19 @ 55 lbs
  • ECO Rough - Strung up in my Wilson Blade V7 16x19 @ 55 lbs
Regular string setup & tension
  • Over the last year, my go-to-string has been Solinco Hyper G @ 55 lbs in my Wilson Blade V7. While I’ve recently started using a Babolat Pure Aero 98 within the last month, I wanted to test these strings in a much more familiar set up so I could be more objective.

Racquet(s) used for test
  • Wilson Blade V7 16x19 w/ a 4 ½ “ grip size. The only racquet modification I've made is to install a leather grip.
Power/Control
  • ECO POWER
    • The ECO POWER played somewhat similar to Hyper G in terms of power and control. It played noticeably more dead than Hyper G. Due to its dead feeling, It was extremely predictable in terms of control compared to my normal Hyper G setup. Honestly, while I've only played them once before, this string reminded me more of Volkl Cyclone than Hyper Gs in general.
  • ECO Rough
    • ECO Rough had significantly more power than the ECO POWER. As a textured round string, it felt like it had greater elasticity and greater launch as a result. Prior to settling on Hyper Gs, I played ALU Power in my blade, and ECO Rough reminded me a lot of ALU Power. Since I prefer sided strings to help with control, the sided string felt a little less controllable for me, but if you regularly use round strings then I doubt you would have a control issue with this one.
Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
  • ECO POWER
    • This string felt stiff and even harsher than Hyper G. However, this is not a detractor for me. If not for the teal color that really clashes with any frames I have, I would buy a few more packs of this string to keep playing it.
  • ECO Rough
    • This string had a much more comfortable feel to it. Not too mushy, not too crisp or harsh. While I enjoy the spin I get with a sided string, this was much nicer to hit with speaking strictly of how contact with the ball felt.
Spin
  • ECO POWER
    • This is a sharp-sided string that is on par with Hyper G, and the bite on the ball generated by this string imparts the spin and control that you would expect with it.
  • ECO Rough
    • As a textured round string, this string imparts plenty of spin on the ball as long as your technique allows for it. This string isn’t going to necessarily help add spin to the ball, it will simply showcase your swing mechanics.
Playability Duration - I’ve played about ~8 hours with each string
  • ECO POWER
    • Here is where the ECO strings really fell off for me. With my Hyper G setup, I can usually get anywhere from about 7-10 hours of solid performance from my strings. ECO POWER definitely lasted all 8 hours that I’ve used them without breaking, but they seemed to bag out after about 4-6 hours which is a significant dropoff in performance compared to their Hyper G competition.
  • ECO Rough
    • I don’t believe ECO Rough has the same issue as ECO POWER regarding durability. Since I found Eco Rough to compare most to ALU Power, it is on par with its competition when I say it lasts 4-6 hours before performance drops off to affect playability. If I were looking for an eco-friendly replacement for ALU power, I might seriously consider this one.
Tension Recommendations
  • ECO POWER - 55 lbs felt comfortable for me on this one. It played similarly to my preferred setup of Hyper G at 55 lbs, so that is what I would go with.
  • ECO Rough - Since I struggle a little with round strings to achieve the same predictability and control that I get with sided strings, I might try stringing this one at 57 or 58 lbs to reign in my depth.
List any additional thoughts
  • I really enjoyed trying these out and am genuinely interested in playing more environmentally friendly strings. However, please continue research & development to find an alternative to the dark teal of the ECO POWER. It really is ugly in the wrong frames and unfortunately, I have the wrong frames for this string.
  • Thanks again Luxilon and Tennis Warehouse!!
Nice review, agree on your points regarding durability...ECO Rough I would consider using again since it did drop in tension fairly noticeably, it kept its playability, and I liked the ball pocketing feel I got from it.
 

Molk

New User
Luxilon ECO POWER and ECO ROUGH

PLAYTEST
Regular string setup & tension ISOSPEED Baseline Spin 17L/1.20 @54 lbs. full bed and many other polys. I play much better with poly and I would love to find a poly that has comfort, control, spin and power with very minimal tension loss at a good price. Is that too much to ask for?
Racquet(s) used for test ProKennex Black Ace 105 (No customizations)
Tension(s) used for playtest.
ECO POWER 54 lbs.
ECO ROUGH 54 lbs.
Power/Control
ECO POWER (8.5/10) plays somewhat like Lux ALU Power, but it does not have the ball pocketing and feel of ALU Power. Eco Power is slightly more powerful than Eco Rough. This string offers more control than power but there is a good balance of power and control.
ECO ROUGH (7/10) was a little lacking in power compared to Eco Power. The control was good. You will not get pushed around on the court with this string. This string offers more control than power.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
ECO POWER (8/10) felt slightly muted and a little stiff, but you are connected with the ball. It is a very good string for lobs and drop shots. I do need to use a vibration dampener with this string but there were no ping sounds or harsh vibrations noticed. I do prefer a more comfortable string.
ECO ROUGH (6.5/10) felt muted and stiff but the control was good. It played consistently for about 4-5 hours and then there was a notable tension loss and with the tension loss there was also a slight loss of control. Eco Rough does not offer the comfort that Eco Power does.

Spin
ECO POWER (8/10) offered me more spin than Eco Rough, but I would not describe it as a spin string. It is a good string for slice serves and slice backhands. For me it produced ok top spin. I believe this string is good for someone who hits the ball flatter and likes to slice.
ECO ROUGH (7/10) offered me less spin than Eco Power and after 4-5 hours and tension loss this spin was also reduced. Given the string texture I expected more spin with less effort.

Playability Duration
ECO POWER (8.5/10) I know this contrary to other play testers, but I did not experience a big tension loss after 5 hours of play. There was a little tension loss. I do not have scientific data to support my statement and maybe this is just a “one off.” With all the polys that I have played with there is always a noticeable tension loss after about 4-5 hours which can be frustrating.
ECO ROUGH (6.5/10) There was a noticeable loss of tension after 5 hours and this affected the all-around playability of the string. The string did not snap back into place. If you were playing a tournament you would have to switch racquets during the tournament.

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)
ECO POWER I might try to string a little lower about 50 lbs.
ECO ROUGH Because of the tension loss I would string at 56 lbs. and see if that helps?

List any additional thoughts (optional)
It is amazing that both strings are made out of 100% recycled materials. I wonder if there is a benefit related to the strings performance when recycled materials are used. Maybe durability is better? That “story” needs to be told. Similar to Renewal by Andersen which talks about the product being stronger because recycled materials are used.
I would buy and recommend Eco Power if it was more comfortable and arm friendly. But I have not found a poly that is comfortable and arm friendly yet.


BONUS
List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional)
Would rubbing a lubricant such hand lotion on both of these strings before playing help with string snap back and would the lotion hurt the stings?
Given Luxilon quality, which material is better to work with “virgin poly materials” or recycled poly materials?

List any additional thoughts (optional)

Thanks again to TW and to Wilson/Luxilon for allowing us this opportunity to test this “first of its kind” string and kudos to Lux for having the expertise to make this string.
 

PhxRacket

Hall of Fame
I want to thank TW and Luxilon for this opportunity. I have put twenty hours into both strings, each in a v7 Blade 18x20. I normally string my Blades with Element or ALU Power at 47#/45#. I’m not a string breaker and usually cut them out around the 20 hour mark. For the playtest, I used ECO POWER at 47# and ECO ROUGH at 47#.
I really liked the ECO ROUGH. And the ECO POWER was something I could see myself using moving forward.

Power/Control
ECO POWER 10/10 Power. This string, when fresh offered big power in my Blades. 9/10 Control. Chalk this score up to user error. Maybe it should have been strung a little higher. But I feel that this is the strongest feature of ECO POWER…thus the name.
ECO ROUGH 9/10 Power. This string did not have the high octane power of ECO POWER, but its spinny nature allowed for heavy, spinning balls to push players around. I could really work serves all around the box with spin and enough power to create havoc for returners. But in the end, I like direct power, pedal to the metal, mullet sporting power and the ECO POWER has that, at least for me. I am sold!

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
ECO POWER 10/10 Feel. A little stiff, but isn’t that the trade off for power. It wasn’t uncomfortable and I have a creaky dominant elbow prone to pain with stiff strings. Despite that ALU like stiffness, it was very connected. Much better feel than the ECO ROUGH.
ECO ROUGH 8/10 Feel. I played singles and doubles with this string and found it muted and too much vibration. Almost metallic to plasticky. Lots of spin though. If I had to choose between the two based only on feel, ECO POWER hands down.

Spin
ECO POWER 8/10 Spin. The hexagonal shape helped create spin. ECO POWER provides enough spin for the better than rec player to get some shape on their balls. I gave it a lower score than ECO ROUGH because I thought we were comparing them. But ECO POWER is going back in my Blades as soon as I get a reel.
ECO ROUGH 10/10 Spin. This is a spin string. It was miles better than ECO POWER in terms of spin. I was finding shape on strokes with my Blade that were nearly Aerolike. Kick serves and Slice serves were lethal. I was getting great action on slices and droppers to boot. ECO ROUGH wins!

Playability Duration
ECO POWER Playability 8/10. ECO POWER was great until it wasn’t. I got a great 10 hours from my setup and then it died…fast. Tension dropped slightly in the beginning, but leveled off until dying completely and requiring removal.
ECO ROUGH Playability 10/10. ECO ROUGH was as good as ECO POWER for 10 hours, plus it remained very playable for another 6-8 hours. This is where ROUGH took POWER to the woodshed. I found tension maintenance and durability to be ROUGH’s superpower over POWER. ROUGH BIG WIN!!!

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)
ECO POWER I would string it similarly next time. I like LXN polys between 45 and 47 all year long. I find that I get the best pocketing, feel and snap back at 47#. It played comfortably for me, as do all LXN strings at 47#. I could see experimenting a little lower as I am able to control any springy reactions to low tension poly.
ECO ROUGH See above. I would definitely try this strung at 45#. Maybe even down to 42.

List any additional thoughts-I really want to try this in a hybrid with LXN natural gut or NXT…maybe even Syn Gut. I am thrilled that LXN is trying to reduce the tremendous waste that stringing produces by repurposing poly. I am looking at buying a reel of each.

BONUS
List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional)
Why did you choose the colors for each?
Did you consider optimal hybriding options if one stays within the Wilson/LXN family?
Will you try this with overgrips?

A million thank you to TW and LXN for this playtest. I am a LXN devotee recently and this came at just the right time.
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
---ECO ROUGH---

Regular string setup & tension: Luxilon 4G Mains (48 lbs.) and NXT Control Crosses (53 lbs.)
Racquet(s) used for test: Wilson Blade v8 100L (16x19)

Tension(s) used for playtest: 48 lbs.


Power/Control: I didn't find these to be the most powerful on the first outing. They were decent, but didn't wow me in the power aspect. I had quite a few balls hit the top of the net and drop on my side. I didn't have many that sailed long either. I was not able to dial in my touch shots on the first day. Shots that I intended to drop right over the net either hit the net, or went back to the baseline. This settled down as the playtest progressed and control became good.


Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?): They were a little on the muted side on my first outing. I definitely didn't feel like they are a power string. I could take full cuts at the ball and not sail them long. That changed as time went on. I was sailing everything long by the 3.5 hour mark. However, by 5 hours, they were performing predictably.


Spin: Spin generation was somewhere between "good" and "pretty good." Spin wasn't "great," but it was pretty good. Again, I struggled with topspin on my first outing with the string, but 1HBH and serves were exactly where they needed to be. The spin generation seemed consistent throughout the playtest.


Playability Duration:
Time on strings for playtest: 6.5 hours
They played great at first, had a perceived (not measured) big tension drop off, and then stabilized. The strings, in my experience, were wildly unpredictable during the drop off. However, once they settled into their final tension, they became my go-to string between the two.


Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain): I felt like 48 lbs. was a pretty good tension. I would probably string there again, but would consider dropping it down a notch to get a touch more power on the next go round.


List any additional thoughts (optional)
Initial thoughts: I did the bounce test immediately after stringing. I was pretty sure that I was going to like them more than the Luxilon Alu Power mains and NXT Power cross hybrid setup that I cut out. They have a good sound and initial feel.

Day 1: Strung at 8:30am on 8/31. Practice at 7pm the same day. Played Doubles for 1.5 hours before switching racquets. I was just "off." I couldn't put a finger on what exactly was off, but something. Could have been the strings, but very well might not have been. I didn't notice any tension drop off during the first outing. I did like them more than the hybrid that I cut out. Spin off the 1HBH was nice and precise. I struggled with topspin and touch shots. I was able to generate decent power on serves, but not great. My spin serves were mostly dialed in, but could have used a touch more power.

After 1.5 hours, I am seeing "divots" in the strings where they make contact with each other, but I wouldn't consider it to be notching yet.

Day 7 (one week after first play): I played Doubles for about an hour. The strings felt great. Good ball pocketing and good control. Touch shots were excellent and I was placing the ball exactly where I wanted. I did not even consider switching to my other racquet that day. Total play time with strings: 2.5 hours.

Day 9 (2 days later): Had my first actual match. With how good I played on day 7, I knew I was playing with the ECO Rough for the match. Unfortunately, I didn't have the same experience as the previous Thursday. My serves were good, both power and spin. Return of serve was even still pretty good. Unfortunately, after the initial return of serve, I struggled with accuracy. Touch shots were non-existent. I also didn't feel like spin shots were very effective whether it was a 1HBH slice or forehand topspin. Shots that I normally am able to place right inside the baseline were sailing about 6-10" behind the baseline. I lost a lot of points due to balls sailing just long. Lost the first set 1-6. Considered switching racquets, but decided I was going to keep playing with the ECO strings. At the 1 hour mark, I decided to switch to my racquet with multi stings. Those shots that I was sailing long, suddenly were landing 8-10" inside the baseline. My opponent even commented after the match that I started rallying and making a lot more shots after the switch. My only regret for the day was that I didn't switch sooner. Total play time with strings: 3.5 hours.

I forget how many days at this point. Went and hit some balls with my wife. I got about 25 minutes with each racquet/string, and neither really stood out as better than the other at the 4 hour mark.

Played with them for about 2 hours at practice the next day. I was playing good with them, so I didn't switch racquets. They were consistent and controlled. Perfect for who I was playing against. Total time: 6 hours.

Had a match today. Started with the ECO Power. One of the players on the other team should not be in the same league. We got outplayed on almost every point. After an hour with the ECO Power, I switched back to ECO Rough just to see if that was the magic sauce. It wasn't. The strings played great, but neither me nor my partner could keep up. Total play time for playest: 6.5 hours.


Something that is definitely worthy of note is the different play style and level of each person testing the strings. The overwhelming majority of players are around the 3.0 level and most won't be able to tell you if/when the strings have "died" (as so many like to put it). Someone who snaps strings constantly is going to be much harder on the strings than someone who plays recreationally. I would venture to say that most people who purchase it (based on the number of players in that category) are going to be in the 3.0-3.5 level NTRP rating. The string should last longer for them because the balls they are returning aren't hit as hard as someone returning 3.5-4.5 level shots.


Final thoughts: They are an excellent string overall. I was frustrated with them a few times. They were great, then they were not, then they were good again. At no point did I think that they were a recycled string. If it weren't for the packaging, I wouldn't know. I have another pack, and I think these would make an excellent string for a hybrid. I will probable use these in the mains with NXT Control in the crosses.
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
---ECO POWER---

Regular string setup & tension: Luxilon 4G Mains (48 lbs.) and NXT Control Crosses (53 lbs.)
Racquet(s) used for test: Wilson Blade v8 100L (16x19)

Tension(s) used for playtest: 48 lbs.


Power/Control:
Power and control are there. My serves were coming in hot and flat when I wanted them to hit them that way. They seemed to be moving faster than my normal setup. The ball went where I wanted it to, so control also seems to be above average.


Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?):
ECO Power felt amazing. I felt connected to the ball when I made good contact, and off center shots were forgiving. I seemed to have good ball pocketing and no trampoline effect. Touch shots were on point. This is the "just right" bowl of pourage for the three bears.


Spin:
I would classify these as "pretty good" to "pretty good+". They didn't quite make the "great" category. The spin generated with these strings was better than expected, and certainly exceeded that of ECO Rough.


Playability Duration:
Time on strings for playtest: 5 hours.
Time will tell. I didn't notice any dropoff in performance during the playtest. These are seriously making me consider switching to this string.


Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain):
48 lbs. seemed perfect for these strings. I would absolutely put them at the same tension going forward.


List any additional thoughts (optional):


Day 1 morning (4 days after stringing): Hit balls with my Brother-in-Law, who doesn't play tennis, for an hour and a half. We mostly just hit balls so that I could work on technique, but we did play a set of singles. My first thought is that they play like a very good "all around" string. Spin was adequate, as was power. Power wasn't "knock your socks off," but it was definitely there. I was able to generate a lot of velocity and keep balls in play. Touch shots were also pretty good. My initial thought is that I'm very impressed. Like @Molk said, if it weren't for the words on the package, I wouldn't know that these were made of recycled components. Definitely felt more comfortable than the ECO Rough. I'm looking forward to playing with them in my next match.

Day 1 evening: Had a team practice and played another 2 hours with the ECO Power. These might be my new string of choice. Power was good. Control was good. Spin was good. Serves were strong and return of serve was very controlled. My spin serve was giving my opponent problems...the deuce side returner had problems getting to it, and I was putting it into the body of the returner on the ad side. During rallies, I noticed excellent ball pocketing, and it seemed as though the sweet spot was considerably larger than the ECO Rough. At this point, I couldn't point to any one thing that the string does really well, but I think that is due to it not having any aspect that is lacking....if that makes sense. (i.e. if a string generates excellent spin, but has no power, that makes the spin effect seem even greater. That one aspect is amplified by the lack or the other qualities). My arm was a little sore last night, but I don't think that has much to do with the strings. I think it is more about the amount of tennis I played that day. Notching is comparable between both sets of ECO string at this point. Total time on strings 3.5 hours.

Day 7 (11 days after stringing): Hit some balls with my wife. Got about 25 minutes on each string/racquet. Neither stood out to me as better than the other. Approx. time played: 4 hours.

Day 10: Played a match today. It was ugly. The strings played great, but I just couldn't keep up with the opponent. He was ripping baseline topspin shots with surgical precision. It was a play-keep-away from the one dude, and his partner was solid enough that he made some good plays too. The one dude had more pace than anyone in my club, so it was truly playing someone on another level. Points were pretty short overall, so the best I can talk about was my serves. I had enough pace on the ball that the opponent had to stand on, or just behind, the baseline. About every 4th serve, I'd hit a soft spin serve that would just kick out to the side of the court. We only won 3 games in two sets, and 2 of them were when I was serving. I switched racquets at the hour mark just to try something different, but it didn't matter. Total time played: Approx. 5 hours.

Final thoughts: This is an excellent all-around string. Power, control, feel. I felt like it did it all well. There was no aspect of this string where I felt "I wish it did ____ better." This string played very consistent for me. I didn't perceive any real drop off in tension or performance throughout the playtest. Added bonus: No elbow pain....at least not that I recall. I think this is an excellent string to use in a full bed. I would probably make a good hybrid as well, but it plays great by itself! I'll likely pick up several more sets the next time it goes on sale.

Oh, and it looks pretty sweet in the Blade v8!
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
I want to first say "THANK YOU" to TW and Luxilon for allowing me to participate in the playtest. It was a lot of fun!

---BONUS---

Questions for Wilson string developers:

What is the main source of material being used in the ECO series? (i.e. previous strings, plastic bottles, etc.)

Is more energy required to produce these strings as compared to other Luxilon offerings?

Is there any discussion of changing the packaging for other Luxilon string offerings? None that I've opened have had a "restring sticker" included, so it seems like a lot of unnecessary material when the ECO series packaging seems adequate.
 

M Pillai

Semi-Pro

Luxilon ECO POWER and ECO ROUGH PLAYTEST​


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  • Regular string set up
    • Volkl Cyclone17 54lb
  • Racquet used for test
    • ECO POWER: Wilson RF97 v13
    • ECO ROUGH: Wilson RF97 v13
  • Tension(s) used for playtest
    • ECO POWER: 54lb
    • ECO ROUGH: 54lb
  • Control/Power
    • ECO POWER: Average. To me ECO POWER looked like a spin oriented copoly with average power, excellent control and lots of spin potential.
    • ECO ROUGH: Average. Slightly lower powered than ECO POWER. Directional control was slightly off, but good depth control and average spin.
  • Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
    • ECO POWER: Excellent. Really good string response when fresh, crisp and connected. Excellent feel on touch shots, drop shots and half volleys. Baseline rally shots had good response. Volleys were crisp and responsive.
    • ECO ROUGH: Average. A lot more muted response. Baseline hard hitting was good, but touch shots felt a bit disconnected. Same with volleys, a bit disconnected feel.
  • Spin
    • ECO POWER: Excellent. The string felt like a slightly shaped string during hitting. Good dwell-time and easy spin. As fresh, the snap-back was also pretty good. Deep baseline topspin rallies were really fun and easy to control. I felt like ECO Edge or ECO Spin is probably a good name for this string.
    • ECO ROUGH: Average. I was in fact expecting more spin from the rough string, just because of the extra roughness in the string. Spin is not bad, but I was disappointed when comparing it with ECO POWER. I would say the spin is there, but nothing out of the ordinary for a poly string.
  • Playability Duration
    • ECO POWER: Average. Personally for me I felt like this string was really good as fresh, but the properties fade faster than expected, even for a poly. Especially the feel, snapback and spin faded away at a fast rate. I would say by around 10hr hitting mark, I was ready to cut the string. But I kept it till 18hr mark since I was not playing any tournaments or leagues.
    • ECO ROUGH. Good. ECO ROUGH when fresh had not the best properties for spin/feel. But it felt like whatever properties it had, it kept it longer than ECO POWER. Again I cut the string at around 18Hr mark. I would say the playability difference from fresh to around the 15hr mark was reasonable, and it started to be more obvious towards the 18hr mark.
  • Tension Recommendations (would you string it differently next time? Why?)
    • I don’t find a reason to string it at a different tension. This is in the modern softer co-poly category of strings, and if you are coming from a very stiff old generation poly, you may want to consider that factor into mind. Otherwise I would just say go with your usual/regular tension you have on any modern co-poly you have in your racket.
  • List any additional thoughts (optional)
    • I feel like ECO Rough is probably very similar to the popular Luxilon ALU Power Rough. I had used ALU Power Rough long back, but I don’t remember it well enough to make a clear comparison. But people who like the ALU Power Rough may find ECO Rough to be a slightly cheaper alternative. I really liked ECO Power in my racquet when it was fresh. Also I liked the unique and bold color. By the way I did compare both the strings side by side using two matched RF97 racquets. Well, along with another popular string on a third RF97.
  • List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional)
    • This is probably a difficult question to answer, but I had to ask. One of the main issues I had with most of the Luxilon co-poly strings I used were the longevity of the properties. This is far more important when the cost is as much as the Luxilon sets, since you feel the pain to cut it off. But generally, is this because of the specific materials used in the string or is it because it is not in the top-most priority for the string research department of Luxilon?
 

martyr444

Rookie

Playtest: Luxilon ECO Power & ECO Rough​


I didn't read any reviews here or outside of TW before testing the string. After writing up my review and then reading others, it again proves how feel, power, spin, touch is very subjective. Not just because we are individuals, but because of what we prefer in a string and what we normally use on a regular basis. Even the Racket we use can make a big difference on our perception of the string.


Regular string setup & tension - Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 mains 16G. I use various strings for Crosses between 50-55lbs depending on the Weather.


Racquet(s) used for test – Wilson Clash 98

Tension(s) used for playtest

ECO POWER – 52lbs
ECO ROUGH – 52lbs

Power/Control

ECO POWER – Average control. This made a plastic sound at contact. For me it had less control compared to the Eco Rough along with more power. It had even less control compared to my normal string setup. Much more power compared to my normal setup.

ECO ROUGH – Very good control. This made more of a metallic sound when hitting the ball. Directional control was spot on. Power was more than I get from my normal setup.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)

ECO POWER – It was not stiff or crisp at all. It had a slight mushy feeling during contact. I felt less connected with the Eco verses the rough on ground strokes. It worked better for touch shots, which surprised me since I fell so disconnected on my ground strokes.

ECO ROUGH - – It was crisp feeling for me. It was not mushy at all. It was comfortable; more so when compared to my normal setup. I felt very connected when using the Eco Rough on ground strokes.


Spin

ECO POWER – Less spin for me compared to the Eco Rough. It had much less spin compared to my normal setup. I had to severely brush up on the ball to keep it from going long. I had to be careful when trying to go all out on flat shots. When running my fingers across the face of my Racket, I cannot feel much grab all. If I do this with my normal setup, my fingers easily feel the grab of the strings. The Eco Power does have good snap back.


ECO ROUGH – It produced more spin compared to the Eco Power. It had less spin compared to my normal setup. The texture of the string is not very pronounced. I can feel a slight amount of grab when running my fingers across the face of the string bed. More so compared to the Eco Power, but much less compared to my normal setup. There was more fuzz on the face of my Racket with the Rough compared to the Eco Power. My normal setup has much more fuzz showing on the String bed. Much more fuzz flies with ground strokes using my normal setup.

Playability Duration

ECO POWER – It felt the close to the same up until it broke. No big loss of tension all the way up to the 5-hour mark when it snapped.


ECO ROUGH – It also had the playability the same up until it broke. It lasted around a 1 hour longer compared to the Eco Power. My regular set up lasts many hours more, but does lose tension. I do not wait for them to snap before I replace them.

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)

ECO POWER – I would keep the tension the same. I don’t think different tensions would make that “very noticeable plastic sound” during ground strokes.


ECO ROUGH – I would use the same tension. There was nothing bad about this string, but nothing outstanding either.

List any additional thoughts (optional) – I had some coiling issues when stringing these strings. I should have done a pre stretch for both of them. Neither of them stretched that much when being pulled with weight of the stringer arm. I could see me using the Eco Rough, but never would I use the Eco Power. I did like the color of the Eco Power, but that plastic sound at contact was very annoying.


BONUS
List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional) – Are you going to make any of these Eco Friendly strings but with much more texture for more severe ball bite? What I look for in a main string is extreme texture for ball bite along with less power for more control. In a cross string I like slippery strings that are softer compared to my main strings.



Thank you TW and Luxilon for the opportunity to test these strings!
 

dtkim

New User
Luxilon ECO POWER and ECO ROUGH Playtest Review
I strung my playtest ECO Power full-bed and ECO Rough full-bed shortly after I got them, around 16th of August. I set my playtest string tension to 53 lbs (mains/crosses) on my matched playtest racquets, and there was no issue during the stringing. I started playtest them few days after stringing, and my first impression were very positive. Both strings were very impressive that the ECO strings are made from the 100% recycled materials and their playing characteristics do not lack when compared to the other good co-poly tennis strings that I am familiar with. Please keep in mind that this review is based on my string preferences, and it could be totally different than yours. There are many variables and the best way to know about these two ECO strings are to try them on the court.

Regular string setup & tension:
My regular string setups are Kirschbaum Max Power Rough, Tier One Black Night, or Ashaway Kevlar 16 gauge as mains at 52 ± 1 lbs, and Head Lynx Tour 17 as the crosses at 52 ± 1 lbs on my Head Prestige Mids and Head Midplus racquets. Lately, I have been experimenting with Tier One Black Night 16 gauge mains and Tecnifibre Razor Soft 17 gauge crosses.

Racquet(s) used for test:
Racquet 1 –
Head Pro Tour 280 MP, 18 x 20, customized at 380 g static weight and 8-point HL (us).
Racquet 2 – Head Pro Tour 280 MP, 18 x 20, customized at 380 g static weight and 8-point HL (us).

Tension(s) used for playtest:
ECO POWER – Racquet 1: ECO Power 17 (53 lbs) / ECO Power 17 (53 lbs).
ECO ROUGH – Racquet 2: ECO Rough 17 (53 lbs) / ECO Rough 17 (53 lbs).

Power/Control:
ECO POWER – Full-bed Eco power delivered a very good control and generated some nice put-away shots from the baseline. String bed responded well at the net and provided predictable shots. The string bed provided all courts control including serves compared with my normal play setups. There was nothing spectacular but above average for the power and control. It played similar to a full-bed Kirschbaum Pro Line II 17 gauge 52 lbs (mains/crosses) setup.

ECO ROUGH – Full-bed Eco rough delivered a better control and more powerful shot when compared to ECO power. String bed responded well like Luxilon Alu Power Rough 16L power but with less control. This string bed provided better serves, baseline hots, and at the net compared with ECO power.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?):
ECO POWER – This string bed provided me a mute feel at the ball impacts compared with my regular setups. I may start reducing string tensions on my regular setup to experiment.

ECO ROUGH – Playtest string bed provided me a little bit firmer feel at the ball impacts. However, I felt comfortable and connected with this playtest bed than ECO Power bed. I believe it would not impact the feel if I raised couple more pounds of tensions to mains/crosses.

Spin:
ECO POWER – The spin generation was there when I needed, and it was very controllable. ECO power spin potential did not drop like ECO rough throughout playtest.

ECO ROUGH – This string bed provided a bit less spin generation than Luxilon Alu Power Rough 16L. Compare to my normal setup, this string bed provided a better spin generation at the beginning of the playtest but noticeably dropped spin potential after about 10 hours of playtest time.

Playability Duration:
ECO POWER – My main strings got notched and cross strings got elongated without any notching as usual. After 10 hours of a hard hitting with the deep notches on the mains strings, the playability drop somewhat. However, the control was still there when needed. I had to really get up and down with my wrist to generate spin. But it is a softer string and not as textured as the other two strings provided. I feel this is a big factor that needs to be taken into account.

ECO ROUGH – This string can take big cuts and produce nice top spins and you can see the ball jump. It’s a great string if you do not need to play more than about 10 hours of total play time, and I prefer this string over the ECO Power.

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain):
ECO POWER – Strung at 53 lb Mains / 53 lb Crosses provided a baseline feel that I am most familiar and comfortable with for any co-poly playtest. I used play with a full-bed Alu Power 16L around 58 lbs (mains/crosses), and now I play with the co-poly strings that are towards more budget minded.

ECO ROUGH – This string reminds me of Alu Power Rough 16L with a less playabilities. Strung at 53 lbs (Mains/ Crosses) provided a good comparison baseline setup comparing against ECO Power.

I liked the playtest setup of 53 lbs for both mains and crosses. If I was looking for more control, I would increase maybe couple pounds more without decreasing feel of the string beds for both ECO strings.

List any additional thoughts (optional):
The two playtest ECO strings provide similar co-poly string characteristics that I prefer for my play strings. My initial concern was that these ECO strings are not durable and the strings will break prematurely. However, even after plus 15 hours of hard play, the ECO Power and ECO Rough string did not break.

Thank you to, @TW Staff and Luxilon (Wilson) Company for the ECO Power and ECO Rough strings playtest opportunities.

BONUS:
List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional):

Most tennis players will agree that Luxilon (Wilson) Alu Power strings are the best choice for the tournament plays if the budget was non-consideration.
If only the used cut-off Luxilon (Wilson) Alu Power strings are recycled to produce a new ECO Alu Power, would it retain most of the Alu Power string characteristics? Would it reduce end user cost?
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
Regular string setup & tension: RPM Blast 16G 48lbs, RPM Blast 17G 50lbs
Racquet(s) used for test: Eco Power - Wilson Blade Pro 18x20, Eco Rough - Graphene 360+ Gravity Pro

Tension(s) used for playtest

ECO POWER: 50lbs

ECO ROUGH 48lbs

Power/Control

ECO POWER: Eco Power was a great all-around string that provided good power along with predictable control. The name of the string suggests bouncy/springy reaction from the string bed, but it wasn't the case.

ECO ROUGH: Eco Rough provided good amount of power and control.

Overall, Eco Power offered easier access to power and Eco Rough was more on the control side.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)

ECO POWER: During the first few hits, the string felt crisp but became increasingly softer and comfortable as more time was spent on the string. Even if the string became soft, it still felt connected.

ECO ROUGH: This string felt thicker than Eco Power and felt like it had more of a dead, ball crushing feel during first few hits. This string also became softer with each hit, but what felt like dead feel became more of a muted feel. The string felt soft with muted feel. I didn't feel; nearly as connected as Eco Power. Maybe it was the combination of Gravity Pro and Eco Rough, but it felt a little disconnected.

Eco Power felt like playing with a good all around string like Yonex Poly Tour Pro. Nothing about it stood out, but everything about it was nice.

The only other "Rough" string that I've tried was RPM Rough. That string felt dry and hitting with string made of paper. Eco Rough, in comparison, felt muted but much softer.

Spin

ECO POWER: Eco Power was really good on spin. It was very good on hitting topspin, as well as low skidding slices. This string could actually be marketed as spin string than power string.

ECO ROUGH: Eco Rough was decent on spin but the rough surface didn't seem to help much in generating spin. The name suggests that it's a spin friendly string, which could be a little misleading. It isn't bad, but I felt Eco Power provided much easier access to spin.

Playability Duration

ECO POWER: Like most poly strings, the peak level play lasts about eight hours. After that it becomes floaty on slices and launchy on flat shots.

ECO ROUGH: Eco Rough also lasts about eight hours in peak play, but it remains playable a bit longer than Eco Power after 8 hours of play. It's probably due to muted nature of the string that didn't encourage hard hitting.

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)

ECO POWER: I would string it tighter by two to three pounds. Due to its soft feel, I'd string it tighter for more control. There is ample power, so going up a couple of pounds would not hurt its power potential.

ECO ROUGH: I would string it lower, or use the 18G string for easier access to power.

List any additional thoughts (optional): Really liking the idea of using the recycled bottles to manufacture these strings. I hope this is a new trend in string manufacturing.

BONUS
List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional): Can you label/categorize the string so that I can recycle the used strings?



Thank you, TW. Thank you, Wilson. Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this string playtest.
 
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ne1410is

New User
Tension(s) used for playtest
  • ECO POWER - 50#
  • ECO Rough - 50#
Regular string setup & tension
-Technifibre Razor Soft 17g - 50# Racquet(s) used for test
-Babolat Aero 98
Power/Control
  • ECO POWER
  • I really enjoyed the free power. It made my slice skid deep and low and I could make it skip through nice and quick helping my approaches to the net. It helped me focus a little more on using different spins and placement because I felt a lot of the power was supplied for me. There were some shots where it was too much power of course but I felt I could reign it in most of the time. Control could be a bit difficult to gauge at times but it was loads of fun when the power helped me unload on certain shots!
  • ECO Rough
  • Decidedly less power. It asked more for fuller swings and more careful mechanics to get results but even then, it didn’t seem to give me free power. Of course this helped the control, as I could feel the ball direction a bit more than with eco power. It did seem to have a bit of extra spin on shots which was nice for dipping a bunch of shots just inside the baseline.
Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
  • ECO POWER
  • The first hits were a little “twangy” and “plasticky” although admittedly I forgot my shock damper. At the same time it did give me excellent feedback. I was a little worried after the first hit because my elbow was a touch tender. But after hitting a few more sessions (with and without damper) it really felt delicious where I could get a nice connected but comfortable feel for the ball and bonus free power. No elbow whatsoever so maybe it was just a bit of changing and adjusting to that first session.
  • ECO Rough
  • I definitely agree with other posters who noticed less sinking of the ball into the bed and a more stiff string experience. Still no elbow pain, fortunately. This didn’t give as much power but definitely helped directional control. It felt more connected, firm, and gave more direct response than eco power.
Spin
  • ECO POWER
  • Spin felt ample for me. I could definitely get penetrating slices that scooted through the court for outright winners or damaging approach shots. Topspin was also good although not quite as good as eco rough. I never felt like I had difficulty getting spin with the string because it feels like there is good sinking into the stringbed and nice dwell time.
  • ECO Rough
  • Spin was definitely more pronounced with eco rough. I had a few matches where I was nervous and trying to grind out longer points so the extra spin gave me some nice safety and I felt better shot tolerance. It also helped when I needed high topspin to the backhand to get into a more aggressive position and approach the net. Spin and control really the strengths of eco rough.
Playability Duration
  • ECO POWER
  • The first hit was really fun and great blend of power and control. I was pleasantly surprised at how it evolved after the first session and developed almost more power? Still plenty of control, and I played some of the best doubles in years, using the plentiful power I was able win many fast volley exchanges and net points. I think it seemed to last a bit longer than other polys and I enjoyed the playability during that time too.
  • ECO Rough
  • The playability seemed a little less than eco power. As other posters mentioned I did see some fraying of the string pretty quickly. I still got lots of spin and the tension seemed good but it did seem to change a bit more quickly than eco power. I think it gave me a touch more power as a trade off so it actually seemed to work better for my game!
Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain answer)
  • ECO POWER
  • 50 lbs seemed like a great tension for me. Good blend of control, spin, and power. I also liked how it changed with time, and became more comfortable.
  • ECO Rough
  • I might string a couple pounds lower next time to get a bit more free power because I think it offers control and spin in spades.

I really like the eco nature of the string. I think it’s comparable, and with eco power, better than many options on the market, so it’s a nice bonus that it’s more ecologically friendly.

Thank you TennisWarehouse and Luxilon/Wilson for the opportunity to review the string!
 

ulunxtns

Professional
Regular string setup & tension: Tour M8 125 at 48/46
Racquet(s) used for test: Shift 99


Tension(s) used for playtest

48/46 on both

Power/Control

ECO POWER: Very controlled, medium to low power

ECO ROUGH: Good of power and slightly less controlled than Eco Power.

Eco Rough has more power, Eco Power has more control

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)

ECO POWER: The first hit was kind boardy and stiff, at the same time felt muted. It got better from the second session but I still felt disconnected and I didn’t feel the ball that much, not much pop.

ECO ROUGH: The first hit was great, comfortably firm and medium crisp, and felt connected. From the third session, the string bed felt a little bit too loose.

Eco Power felt boardy overall and muted. On the other hand, Eco rough felt crisp and connected at the get-go.

Spin

ECO POWER: Eco Power could produce a good spin but it requires big cuts on the ball. To me it felt like a string for the advanced player, at least 4.5+ that has a sound technique and can swing out.


ECO ROUGH: Eco Rough has decent spin, sufficient to create the shapes on the ball, and a more consistent response.



Playability Duration

ECO POWER: I played 6 hours. At the beginning I thought there was a break-in period, but after 6 hours it still felt boardy, and the string bed started locking up. Overall, it’s not a type of string I usually enjoy, it could be the string/racquet combo, but it just didn’t really work for me.

ECO ROUGH: I also played 6 hours on Eco Rough. It actually felt really good for the first 4 hours and then it somehow lost tension. In the third session the string lost some control, and the balls flew a little bit.

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)

ECO POWER: If I will play it again I would string it probably mid-40s. Most likely I will hybrid it with a good soft string to increase the pocketing and snapback. I don’t find much from a full bed.

ECO ROUGH: I would string it higher 50/48 maybe to reduce the tension loss.


List any additional thoughts (optional): I like the idea behind the strings, we need more environmentally friendly strings. But Eco Power didn’t really work for me, maybe it will work better with softer racquets. But I liked the Eco Rough, and it looked great in the Shift, it looks similar to the frame color. It could be the string job, I hope it won’t lose tension that quickly. It kind of reminds me of the Alu Rough, same good feel and same tension loss lol.

Thank you TW and Wilson for the opportunity to participate in this string playtest.
 

jwocky

Rookie
Thank you TW and Luxilon/Wilson for providing the playtest strings.

Regular string set-up & tensionYonex Poly Tour Rev Orange 1.30 mm
Racquet(s) used for playtestDunlop Aerogel 4D 200 18 x 20, 95 sq. in., 372 gm, 311mm


ManufacturerLuxilonLuxilon
TypeECO PowerECO Rough
ColorAqua GreenSilver/Magnesium
Gauge1.25 mm1.25 mm
Tension23.5 kg/ 51.7 lbs23.5 kg/ 51.7 lbs
Tension Findings23.5 kg/ 51.7 lbs22.0 kg/ 48.4 lbs
Playtest Orderside-by-sideside-by-side
Hours Played15 hrs = 10.0 scaled14 hrs = 9.3 scaled
Control8.08.0
Power7.56.0
Feel7.06.0
Spin8.07.0
Playability Duration8.06.0
Tournament SelectionYesNo


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GRAPHIC NOTE: 1) Apologies for the lack of crispness in the image. 2) The actual hours played were scaled for the graphic to a ten-point scale: 15 hrs = 10.0 scaled, 14 hrs = 9.3 scaled


Control
By virtue of their nature, both these strings are control oriented and did not disappoint. Precision was the name of the game although it required more effort with ECO Rough than Power. There was a touch of unpredictability with ECO Rough over the course of the 14 hours I played with, but I could not pin it on any one factor other than myself.


Power
ECO Power - Power was good and accessible when needed without having to bludgeon the ball. This would be a nice string to use at the right price point.

ECO Rough - less inherent power than ECO Power for me and I did feel forced to swing differently to impart the same comparative weight to the ball.


Feel
ECO Power - After an initial warm up session, ECO Power felt comfortable to me with good sound and feedback off the string bed. This remained fairly consistent over the fifteen hours provided I did not use the same racquet the next day. If I did, the feel was mushy.

ECO Rough - I did not care for the overall feel of the ECO Rough string bed on most shots. There may have been a period between hours three and six where it seemed okay. Perhaps I need to try stringing it at a lower reference tension?


Spin
ECO Power - I had no trouble generating desired amounts of spin on a variety of shots - baseline and cross court sharp angled dippers, slices from either wing, and topspin backhand shots.

ECO Rough - Surprisingly I found ECO Rough to require more effort to generate spin.

As stated in past reviews, I prefer 1.30 mm poly/co-poly strings because they provide me a more consistent spin and trajectory response versus 1.25 mm or thinner strings. I would like to ask if ECO Power will be available in a thicker gauge.


Playability Duration
ECO Power - It was the more consistent performer of the two strings side-by-side on the required parameters. I was surprised at its overall consistency and the number of play hours versus ECO Rough where it was enjoyable.

ECO Rough - The overall playability of ECO Rough seemed to vary between the first two hours, the next six to eight hours. The last four hours I was hitting with it because I wanted to ensure almost as many hours with it as with ECO Power; however, the strings were done by then in terms of feel.

The racquets with both strings had to be given a day off between sessions - when they were played on consecutive days, both strings felt mushy on the subsequent day.

Tension Recommendations
ECO Power - I would keep the tension chosen for the playtest in a racquet with similar specs.

ECO Rough - I would actually opt to try this at a slightly lower tension of 22.0 kg / 48.4 lbs after a light manual pre-stretch.


Tournament Selection (added because I like this section with the Head Copoly Playtest)
ECO Power is my tournament selection over ECO Rough because it my playing experience over 15 hours was better than nearly as much time with ECO Rough.

At the right price point ECO Power would be a nice string, but at the moment I love Yonex PT Rev Orange 1.30mm and ECO Power does not beat it.
 

ngoster

Semi-Pro
Regular string setup & tension: Head Lynx Tour 17 (champagne) mains @ 46# and Gosen OG Micro 17 crosses @ 51#

Racquet(s) used for test: 2021 Dunlop CX 200 Tour 16x19

Tension(s) used for playtest
ECO POWER:
45#
ECO ROUGH: 45#

Power/Control
ECO POWER:
Power had slightly better power than Rough, is on par with other full bed polys that I've used but less than my normal hybrid setup. With proper technique, control and spin was excellent.
ECO ROUGH: Power was good and on par with other full bed polys that I've used. Control was also good but spin was just ok.

Both strings produced predictable trajectories and seemed to favor a flatter stroke.

Power seemed to have a shorter break-in period compared to Rough. Rough's overall performance was good until the 11th hour mark where it came to life and played that way through the 15th hour mark. At about the 16th hour mark was when I notice a decline. Power came to life around the 3 hour mark and continues to go strong. It has 17 hours on it now.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
ECO POWER:
Power feels firm but not stiff. It reminded me of Lynx Tour. This helped me with touch shots around the net. The comfort level is good. I haven't experienced any arm, wrist or should issues.
ECO ROUGH: Rough was soft but not mushy. It was also comfortable to play with until the overall performance began to decline. I had to try harder at that point which led to some arm strain.

Spin
ECO POWER:
Power's spin generation was noticeably better than Rough's. Groundstrokes produced visible late dips to the baseline. Both kick and slice serves had good bite. Overall, it reminded me of Lynx Tour.
ECO ROUGH: Rough's spin generation was adequate. Nothing exceptional here which was somewhat disappointing. I felt like I can produce as much spin with a smooth round string like IsoSpeed Baseline Spin.

Playability Duration
ECO POWER:
Power's durability has been excellent. 17 logged hours of singles rallys and dubs so far. I'd say the notches in the mains are at about the 50-60% mark but, surprisingly, having to straighten them has been minimal.
ECO ROUGH: Rough's durability was commendable also. I had to cut them after 16 hours but got good to excellent playability from them up to the 16th hour mark.

Both strings were surprising durable (to me). I don't have too much experience with Lux and have only heard from others that they lacked durability.


Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain):
I felt 45# for both were spot on for me. It provided me with a good balance of performance.

List any additional thoughts (optional):
I might be in the minority with this comment but I liked both colorways. The teal stands out without being too loud, even on the red CX 200 frame.

As always, thank you TW and Wilson for allowing me to participate in this fun playtest. Kuddos to Wilson for trying to make our awesome sport more eco friendly. I look forward to seeing more innovations.
 

Chairman3

Hall of Fame
The Chairman3's review of the Eco Twins (Power and Rough)

Regular string setup & tension Racquet(s) used for test: Wilson Ultra Pro 16M (modified), testing/comparing a lot of poly strings lately at 48lbs.

Tension(s) used for playtest
ECO POWER: 48lbs
ECO ROUGH: 48lbs

Power/Control
ECO POWER: I previously used EPower and did not find it to have great control. However, this time around I felt the control was better. Odly enough I used a lower tension this time, so maybe it was more comfort or familiarity with the string and I trusted it more. Control is good, but not excellent. Power is average for a poly, this is a pretty classic low-powered firmer poly aimed at taming powerful racquets through spin.
ECO ROUGH: Erough definitely had more power than Epower. It was a nice power level, not uncontrollable but a good response. Control on the other hand was subpar. I didn't feel overly confident when really "going for it" down the line or trying to pinpoint place a serve. I did enjoy the extra power on serve though

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
ECO POWER: EPower is a classic crisp bordering stiff poly. Feels good for the first 4-5 hours then drops off and that's it. It is not uncomfortable and pretty similar to other Luxilon strings in terms of response, so if you like thag crisper/stiffer feel, you'll like this too.
ECO ROUGH: This string had great feel. Probably the standout attribute for me. It is more forgiving than Epower and other strings, but without being so powerful that you have to ratchet up the tension. That said, it also loses its feel quickly. I felt it got a little mushy the longer I used it and it lost its spin at that point too

Spin
ECO POWER: Easy winner here. Doesn't bite the ball quite as hard or noticeably as some other shaped strings, but nice consistent spin potential. It does feel like as the string dies it diminishes, but it is mostly consistent and the edges don't seem to wear down too fast as they don't seem as sharp as some.
ECO ROUGH: Spin was pretty mediocre in my experience. Some rough strings may provide more spin, this one really didn't. As mentioned above, as tension loss set in, spin seemed even harder to come by.

Playability Duration
ECO POWER: I would say subpar. At 4-5 good hours, I expect more. For any poly I use, I am looking for a solid 8-9 hours, maybe a little less if I really like it. The string does not feel good after the 4-5 hour mark, I'd say 30-50 percent notched for me.
ECO ROUGH: Erough was not alot better. The nice feel started to turn a bit mushy between 4 and 5 hours and it seemed like spin potential was declining. For both strings I noticed earlier string movement and I do think humidity played a big part. Epower I have used before and feel confident in my conclusions. Erough I have two more sets and will re-test to make sure my assertions are supported. Luxilon strings typically don't last long, so short playability for both is not surprising.

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)
ECO POWER: First use I went 50lbs, this time 48, I could probably drop another 2lbs without much drama. So I think lower does open it up a bit more.
ECO ROUGH: 48 seemed about right, but I always go lower to see what happens. Maybe since it is softer, I go higher? A lot of variables but for most poly users, normal tension is probably a good start.

List any additional thoughts (optional): I got better performance from Epower this time than last, but the exact same playability duration. At 4-5hrs for a premium string, not ever going to be a go-to for me. I still really like the color. Erough so far I am disappointed. I had high hopes for spin and feel. While it did have a good blend of power and feel, the short duration of play, again, loses me. I do think humidity caused some premature tension loss, so I intend to string it up again with an open-mind. Erough would probably be good in some hybrid application. Epower is what it is, good [not great] spin and low playability duration. If you're big into "eco" stuff, well it has that right in the name.

BONUS List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional)
Do you not make playability duration and tension loss a priority because it cannibalizes sales?

Will you make purple/lavender big banger original again?

Do you not make more colored Luxilon strings because it significantly alters their performance?

Thank you @TW Staff for another fabulous opportunity, I always thoroughly enjoy it.
 
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lim

Professional
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Tension(s) used for playtest
  • ECO POWER: 50#
  • ECO Rough: 50#
Regular string setup & tension: Lynx Tour 17 52#
Racquet(s) used for test: PS Classic 95

Power/Control
  • ECO POWER: Power level was good. I thought it was a bit firmer compared to the rough. Regardless, I was able to maintain my normal level of pace without worrying about any loss in depth. Didn't notice any extra pace coming off my racquet compared to LT than normal, but when I really loaded up and flattened the ball out they really crushed the ball. Flat serves felt great and mid court balls were easy to put away. Volleys felt solid.
  • ECO Rough: The rough felt more lively to me. The last rough strings I used regularly were 4G which I liked very much for this frame. The Eco rough felt just as good. It really pancaked the ball when flattening the ball out. Even on fh/bh on the run I felt like when I could get a full swing at the ball this would send the ball back deep with a healthy amount of pace. On high balls as well they sent the ball back deep and with interest.
Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
  • ECO POWER: Slightly on the firmer side but still comfortable. Easy to adjust and the stringbed behaved predictably. Ground strokes felt good and pocketing was nice. I was able to absorb and redirect the pace easily on defense and and hitting out on short balls was a breeze. I didn't feel any sensitivity in my arm at any point during the play test.
  • ECO Rough: Rough felt more crisp to me. Same performance overall as the eco power, I felt confident hitting with this string on both forehand and backhand yet the rough felt like it came through with a touch more pop which was a plus for me.
Spin
  • ECO POWER: I wasn't expecting too much since I'm used to shaped strings, but the power did not disappoint. I felt no problem being about to generate spin on ground strokes or serves, but I didn't get any extra liveliness compared to LT.
  • ECO Rough: I think the rough really shined in this category compared to the power. I hit a good amount of slice backhand and this string could really knife the ball and send it back skidding. Topspin ground strokes as well I could see slightly more action off the bounce. This one definitely reminded my of 4G and I preferred the rough among the 2 options.
Playability Duration

  • ECO POWER: I played both for a month each since I got my strings in Aug. I strung Power first then switched to the Rough for the remainder of the play test. Over 20 hours on both at least. Had no issues with stringing they were both stringer friendly. The power I felt was a bit dead for the first few hours then it really opened up. It felt good really good over the next 2 weeks. The ball jumped really off the string bed and had no issues with the snapback. Towards the end of the play test the strings got considerably notched and then the string went really dead. Didn't end up breaking them but they started to play inconsistent for me being hard to tame the power and spin at that point.
  • ECO Rough: These felt great for me all through the play test. The strings had great snapback and didn't notice a huge drop in performance. All in all for both of the strings, I think Luxilon did a great job. Some of the concerns I heard initially about them being inferior because of being recycled and more prone to breaking got me thinking about the viability, but after seeing how they held up I wouldn't be concerned at all.
Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain answer)
  • ECO POWER: Power I would consider dropping 2# for a little extra pop. I bought 2 extra sets and would likely go down on them once I string them up since the temps are dropping rapidly here. There were a few cooler days during the play tests and the string felt totally dead even though I was hitting the sweet spot, however on the hotter days that were up in the mid 90s the ball feel and power was exceptional.
  • ECO Rough: I would keep the tension were it was. The rough had a bit extra liveliness and I didn't get the harsh feeling at any time during the play test. This felt good to me all around both power and touch shots.
List any additional thoughts (optional)
Great string and fun play test. Love the color especially and I think it goes with the recycled story perfectly. Admittedly doesn't look that great with the cosmetics of the PSC, but on an all black PS97 I would switch for the color it looks that good. I think in terms of Luxilon bringing a sustainable option to the table these strings did a phenomenal job. I thinking they were able to bring some of the great qualities of ALU power and 4g in a more earth friendly package and I would commend them for that. Performance seemed right up there and I think if they released them in normal colors didn't tell you they are recycled, no one would have been the wiser. Overall the Rough was my favorite and as a user of 4g in the past this felt right at home. Power and feel was great but the added spin was excellent and great for my game. I would definitely consider using this string again in the future. Thanks again Luxilon and TW!
 
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Lack

Rookie
Regular string setup & tension - Diadem Solstice Black 15L at 55 lbs prestretched 20%
Racquet(s) used for test - Prince ATS Textreme Tour 95

Tension(s) used for playtest
ECO POWER - 55 lbs prestretched 20%
ECO ROUGH - 55 lbs prestretched 20%

Power/Control
ECO POWER - Right off the bat excellent combination of power and control. Low launch angle.
ECO ROUGH - Better pop sound on the impact but performance wise it is same as Power.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
ECO POWER - It isn't harsh on the arm but doesn't feel comfortable either. It feels a bit plastic.
ECO ROUGH - Feels more crisp and lively than Power. It is comfortable and feels connected to the ball.

Spin
ECO POWER - Average spin, doesn't generate too much or too little. I was expecting a good ball bite feel since it is hexagon shaped.
ECO ROUGH - Same as Power but it has a much better ball bite feel.

Playability Duration
ECO POWER - Holds tension well for 2 hours. Big drop afterwards and balls start flying with no dip inside the baseline.
ECO ROUGH - Holds tension well for 3.5 hours. Minimal drop afterwards. Strings don't snap back into their place very well.

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)
ECO POWER - Yes, I would like to try low tension around 40 lbs and see if that would change the feel of the string.
ECO ROUGH - No, I enjoyed it at 55 lbs.

List any additional thoughts (optional)
Rough is a great string for junior high and high school high performance kids. I wish it was under $10.

BONUS
List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional)
Was the choice of color for cosmetic or performance of the string?

Thank you TW and Luxilon for this great opportunity to playtesting!
 

StringStrungStrang

Professional
Luxilon ECO POWER (EP) and ECO ROUGH (ER) Playtest Review
Thanks Luxilon and TW for making this happen !! It's great to test out some new strings especially new offering that haven't been released yet!

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Big props to Luxilon for putting out strings that keep the environment in mind! There are many factors for environmental sustainability - using recycled materials, using less material (as their packaging does quite well) processes for manufacture and reclaiming materials to name a few. I'll be happy when I see all lines sharing the minimal packaging or better yet shops selling from a reel without or less packaging.
Still I know I am not saving the planet by playing tennis and I choose string based on performance / value. Luxilon has a reputation as a premium performance brand - so let's see how these stack up on the courts!

Regular Racquet, string setup & tension:
Racquets:
Matched Babolat Pure Strike 98s, 16 x19, weighted to about 11.7oz. / 332 gr. strung, over grip, dampner, lead tape etc.
Strings: Varies between Hyper-G 17, Volkl Cyclone 16L (45) mains, Isospeed Baseline or Nano Vendetta (47)crosses.

Tension(s) used for playtest:
ECO POWER – 45 mains / 47 crosses
ECO ROUGH – 45 mains / 47 crosses
My observations are based on 15 hours of play time for each racquet setup.

Power/Control
ECO POWER
– EP did deliver some power - not an overly powerful string but not a dead string. It was noticeable on serves and ground strokes, where there was always enough power to get the job done. Sometimes you can feel / see this, but a lot of the time you notice it by what is happening to your opponents. Can you put them into danger? EP has enough pop to do this while still maintaining control. As for control, EP definitely has enough to keep the ball in between the lines. It delivers a nice solid consistent response that lets you direct and redirect power with confidence. I notice this in particular on Return of Serve, volleys and overheads, where its directional control is very nice. I think EP provided a good balance between Power and control that made these strings very playable. Unlike some strings, they were no all power or all control. You didn't have to work too much to generate power and it was easy/predictable to control.

ECO ROUGH – ER didn't quite have the pop for me that EP had. It did have adequate power, but you had to work a little bit more for it than EP. It wasn't a deal-breaker but it wasn't as naturally explosive as EP. To me it was more muted and less powerful, but on the whole control was a bit better than EP IMO. This meant I could handle big serves and pace from opponents more easily but at the expense of a little put-away power. I think the ball flight of the ER was lower than EP and this created slightly less margin for error in my game. ER had a touch less power so I needed do more to make a difference when using it. Groundstrokes were not quite as penetrating and more balls seemed to come back instead of being put away.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?):
ECO POWER
– EP feel good, a bit softer than many polys and a touch muted, but not mushy. I'd say it was firm, but not harsh. It's quite good, but for me something was missing that keeps me from saying it was outstanding. It feels close to what I really want, but not quite there. It may be nitpicking but EP plays very well, feels good, but feels as if the ball never settles into the string bed - lacking some pocketing. This leave me feeling less connected to to my shots than I'd prefer. Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed playing with EP - but for some reason it leave me wanting more.

ECO ROUGH – ER was touch firmer and had a touch better feel overall. It was more comfortable and connected, with a touch less vibration than EP for me. I think the rough surface provided better ball pocketing, better control and feel on returns and on my groundstrokes. I felt my shots were more consistent with ER. Generally speaking I enjoy shaped polys, but rough polys add a bit more pocketing, forgiveness and feel and that held true with EP and ER.

Spin
ECO POWER
– Spin was an area was interested to compare these strings. EP definitely provides more access to spin than round polys. Spin was very good, not at the level of Hyper-G or other more spin oriented strings, but definitely capable. Like most shaped polys EP provided better access to spin during its first 5 hours or so, after that there was a marked decline as the edges smoothed out. I have to give it credit though, I didn't feel there was a huge drop off beyond the first 5-6 hours. After that it played with less spin but still predictable.
ECO ROUGH
– So ER didn't have the initial bite that EP had, it was bad but EP started with more spin. I think over the life of the strings ER played more consistently from beginning to end. Spin was respectable (not stunning) and its' spin characteristic didn't change as dramatically as EP. What spin it delivered it delivered for the bulk of its lifespan.
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Spin for both of these strings was more than adequate, but far from dramatic. Slices bit, serves kicked and for the most part the balls dipped in as you would expect from shaped and rough strings, but ball movement was less than my normal strings of Hyper-G and Cyclone. Generally, I don't think you'd be disappointed in either from a spin standpoint.

Playability Duration
ECO POWER
– I played EP for roughly 16 hours and I'd say its lifespan went through 3 phases: It played very well for hours 1-6, with mild notching, for hours 6-10 it played with more power, less control and less spin but still playing well, solid predictable and notching became much heavier. After 10 hours strings were heavily notched and they were a bit more erratic but still playing surprisingly well and fairly consistent. At 16 hours they still delivered a fairly consistent stringbed, not like earlier, but I have played much worse. Other strings never make it this far so props to Luxilon.

ECO ROUGH – While EP maintained its playabilty quite a long time, ER played well for the first 5 hours, for hours 5-10 play was still very playable and then in hour 11 or so these string seemed to hit a wall. ER's playability dropped dramatically. I could still play with it, but it was not the string I liked during the first hours. It became more erratic and I noticed a little less control on my groundstrokes.
I was impressed with the durability of both, especially considering these are both ECO brands, but towards then end I gravitated towards the EP more than the ER. Somehow I trusted it more and I enjoyed the added liveliness of the stringbed. Where EP remained playable even at 16 hours, ER was finished and being cut out.

Tension Recommendations
ECO POWER / ROUGH
– I strung both at my recent go to tension of 45 / 47 and I felt comfortable with both at this tension. I think both of these could easily be strung a few pounds lower and 4 or 5 lbs higher without any detriment depending on your specific needs.
If I were stringing again for myself I'd choose a similar tension. It delivered a consistent, predictable string bed with enough power spin and control to give me the confidence to play my game. Having said that, what I would like to try is to hybrid these strings. I enjoy poly / poly hybrid stringing and either of these would be ideal candidates to use in the mains with a soft lively poly in the crosses.
In a fullbed these strings performed quite well, but in a hybrid they might really shine.

Additional Thoughts
Luxilon's ECO offerings Power and Rough are an impressive foray into tennis sustainability and they play well enough even when compared to other top tier strings. I could easily be happy with playing either one these as my regular string. The performance characteristics power, spin, control are all there, but something in the feel of the the strings is missing for me. Does the feel of string matter if everything else is there? Some would say no and for them this pair of strings might be perfect. For me the feel along with all the other positives about these give me the feedback I need to trust and feel confident in the process and outcome.

BONUS
List any questions you have for Wilson's string developer about these two strings (optional):

How do these stack up in the lab to Luxilon's other offerings? Which strings are they most similar to according to your specs and formulation?
 

evermilion

Rookie
Luxilon ECO POWER and ECO ROUGH PLAYTEST

Regular string setup & tension:
Tru Pro Black Knight 1.23 mm / Tru Pro Ghostwire 1.17 mm @ 48#/48#
Racquet(s) used for test: Yonex VCORE 95 (VC07)

Tension(s) used for playtest: 48#/46# (For both ECO POWER and ECO ROUGH)

ECO POWERECO ROUGH
Power87.5
Control76
Feel8*6
Spin76
Playability64
* See notes below.

Notes:
ECO POWER: What this string lacks in a single exceptional feature, it compensates by providing everything at slightly above average. With power, I was satisfied with the pop coming out when I hit perfect and I also did notice any weak spots in the string bed. Nothing special with control; with the consistent string bed, I did not notice any control issues. Spin was good but perhaps not as much as what I expected from 6-side string. The feel was actually the most interesting one for my experience. This string had the most coil memory of any string I'ver personally used and that may have contributed to less spin by not providing much snap back. However, the string bed creates almost like a glass shattering sound/feel when you take a crack at the ball, which is quite satisfying. The feel is crisp in the sense that I can feel the "shattering" vibration (even with a dampener on) but not necessarily stiff or firm. It also has a "gooey" feel to it as well. With that said, the string felt overall on the more comfortable side polyester strings I've tried. The major issue I would say is that by about 6 hour mark (after 3 sessions of doubles), I noticed a pretty big drop in spin and control. Not unplayable, but I struggled to keep good depth on the ball.
ECO ROUGH: To be completely fair, I was not playing particularly well during the first couple sessions with this string. While the power felt about the same as ECO POWER (maybe slightly less), I felt like I could not get as much directional control with this string. Weirdly, I could not feel anything from this string bed, especially coming right off of ECO POWER playtest. On top of that, after 30 min., the mains and crosses were all over the place, giving me the impression that I was not getting any consisten spin. However, interestingly, during the 8-10th hour, either I started playing better or got used to this string? While the strings were even more out of place, I felt comfortable with the pocketing of the ball and generated more consistent balls. I would have to guess that this string is softer than ECO POWER? I didn't notice any comfort issues overall. I'm still not quite sure how to judge this particular string. I would probably give it one more test before I recommend it to anyone. From this first impression, I'm very hesitant to use this string as a full bed. I would like to try crossing this string with a smooth round poly.

Tension Recommendation:
ECO POWER: I would like to try lower from 48#/46# to 45#/43#. The control was sufficient, so I'm wondering if I could get even more pop by going a bit lower.
ECO ROUGH: If I had to choose, I would go higher by 2-3 #s with rationale being more control and to counteract the string bed looseness after the first couple hours.

Additional Thoughts:
I wonder if pre-stretching both these strings might solve some of the tension maintence issues? Does the particular material being used in these strings make the string more elastic?
ECO-friendly strings are definitely a worth while avenue for many reasonss. But given the current price point and thinking strictly the price to performance ratio, I do not see myself picking up the ECO POWER to replace my current setup.

Thank you to TW and Luxilon for this playtest.
 
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chauvi88

New User
Luxilon ECO POWER and ECO ROUGH PLAYTEST

Regular string setup & tension:
Solinco Tour Bite 16L (5148), Head Lynx Tour 17 (51/48)

Racquet(s) used for test: Vcore Pro 100 (2021)

Tension(s) used for playtest
ECO POWER: 51/48
ECO ROUGH: 51/48

Power/Control
ECO POWER: I was able to hit with great control throughout the play test. Power is average though.
ECO ROUGH: Very similar to ECO POWER in terms of Power and control. I was able to hit with great control throughout roughly 8 hours of play test.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
ECO POWER: The first 15~20 mins it did feel very stiff. Once broken in, the string felt softer and muted, but “plastiky”. No arm discomfort throughout the play test.
ECO ROUGH: Unlike ECO POWER, the string felt softer and muted from the beginning, still have the “plastiky” feel though. Again, no arm discomfort.

Spin
ECO POWER: Spin is average.
ECO ROUGH: I can generate some above average spin using this string. When hitting forehand lobs, I can brush up confidently and can expect the ball to land within the court most of the time.

Playability Duration
ECO POWER: This string initially felt stiff to begin with. But in roughly 30 mins it dramatically became much softer. I can hit with much control for 4-5 hours until the string starts losing its properties.

ECO ROUGH: This string holds tension very well throughout my 8 hours of play test. I can confidently swing out without much trouble. I can generate some nice spin the entire time. Only knock is the “plastiky” feel of the string.

Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)
ECO POWER: For next time, I would try lowering tension by 2 pounds to 49/46 to see if I can take away the initial stiff feel.
ECO ROUGH: I would try increasing tension a little bit to either 52/50 or 51/51 in hope to gain a bit more control.

Thanks TW and Luxilon for having me on this play test!
 

Fighting phoenix

Professional
Great reviews! One piece of advice to TW for these reviews going forward - it would be great if they would ask for player's level of play as part of their write up, as that will significantly impact player's perceptions of these strings. For example, in this case, I strongly suspect that players in the 4.5+ realm are seeing much higher tension/playability dropoff with the ECO Power string than what's being reflected in these reviews. I felt a significant drop off with Eco Power after about 4 hours, and other reviewers hitting balls consistently hard are reporting the same things, but then there are these reviews with folks playing with it for like 10+ hours that I just can't fathom being the case. Might be a great string for those at 3.5 NTRP and below! So I think the reviews/assessments should reflect that.
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
Regular string setup & tension: Grapplesnake Alpha 17 at 53#

Play Style: 4.0 All-court, singles prefered, OHBH, love the slice, use second serves offensively.

Racquet(s) used for test: 2021 Gravity Tour with a smidge of lead in the hoop

Tension(s) used for playtest:
ECO POWER: 52#
ECO ROUGH: 48#

Power/Control:
ECO POWER: I think ECO Power was balanced for a shaped string but definitely tilted more towards power. With proper footwork and a loose wrist, you could very easily find the back of the court off both wings. I would compare this to maybe Lynx in terms of perceived power. The power was there from the get go.
ECO ROUGH: Another balanced string but maybe tilted a little more towards control. I really did not have an issue with power, depth, or control. ECO Rough seemed to be best after maybe 45 mins of hitting.

While both strings were relatively similar in power with their respective tensions, I would say the defining characteristic difference here is predictability. ECO Rough was just way more predictable. With good racket head speed both balls ended up in the same area of the court i was just way more confident about "knowing it would be there" with the ECO Rough.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?):
ECO POWER: ECO Power was comfortable crisp and never really got uncomfortable. I am at maybe 15 hours with it and its still comfy if not a bit "boingy" when I hit. I do not use dampeners so this is a noticeable change in sound.
ECO ROUGH: ECO Rough started out feeling a bit softer even at a slightly higher relative tension. Again, I will mention consistency here. It felt more similar as the playtest went on. I would say ECO rough was "comfortably muted". I felt more connected to Rough than Power because like I stated above, I could swing out and just generally felt more controlled and that to me inspired confidence which then made me feel in tune with the string.

Spin:
ECO POWER: ECO Power's spin generation was a bit better than ECO Rough's. The balls had a bit more shape and maybe a touch more hop. ALL things equal I would say the Power creates an arc where the Rough created a jump through the court.
ECO ROUGH: ECO Rough was a little less spinny but for a full poly I found it to be plenty. I think sharp shaped strings are a bit over-rated and found plenty of angles with Rough. The predicatbility AGAIN made me feel more comfrotable swinging faster and finding adequate spin even if it didnt look like it was as spinny. ALL things equal I would say the Power creates an arc where the Rough created a jump thorugh the court.

Playability Duration:

Off the bat I want to say I don't typically break full poly. The only one I have broken clean was Dunlop's "Black Widow"

ECO POWER: 30 minute break in... 3-5 hours of pure bliss... 4-6 hours of noticeable tension drop and noise change... 7+ hours of manageable full poly play. At no point was it uncomfortable or truly difficult to control (at a NTRP 4.0 level)
ECO ROUGH: 45 minute break in... 2-5 hours of consistent characteristic play... 6 hour mark noticed a smaller drop in tension but unfortunately broke this string at the grommet. I think Rough is susceptible to kinking a bit and would string with slightly more care. I take full responsibility for this break as the stringer. At no point was this string uncomfortable or hard to control.

The highs of the Power were higher and the decline faster... but I would prefer the consistency of the Rough if I were to make this a permanent string.

Additional thoughts:
Power was high-octane, Rough was consistent. Those are the main take aways here. I would be interested in trying a batch in a year to see if they are able to create a consistent product with inherently inconsistent recycled materials. I would be curious to know how different the composition of these strings are beyond shape/indentation/color. I think they can definitely keep building off the ECO line.

Factoring in price (I think Luxilon in general is way over-priced) I would rate ECO Power at 6.5/10 and ECO Rough at 7.5/10. I truly think Grapplesnake Alpha combines my favorite qualities of each of these into 1 string.

I really liked the pearl effect of the ECO Rough color. It is neutral so would look good in any racket. If I were Luxilon I would have made ECO Power a neon yellow or something more people might like. I think the teal is distinctive but it is also polarizing.

Thank you TW for including me in this test and I apologize for a slightly late review.

edit: A picture repose from earlier in the thread...

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ngoster

Semi-Pro
Great reviews! One piece of advice to TW for these reviews going forward - it would be great if they would ask for player's level of play as part of their write up, as that will significantly impact player's perceptions of these strings. For example, in this case, I strongly suspect that players in the 4.5+ realm are seeing much higher tension/playability dropoff with the ECO Power string than what's being reflected in these reviews. I felt a significant drop off with Eco Power after about 4 hours, and other reviewers hitting balls consistently hard are reporting the same things, but then there are these reviews with folks playing with it for like 10+ hours that I just can't fathom being the case. Might be a great string for those at 3.5 NTRP and below! So I think the reviews/assessments should reflect that.
I found this interesting as well. With NTRP level, perhaps also include stroke style (e.g. flat, heavy top or slice) and swing speed (e.g. slow, moderate, fast). I play with a variety of 3.5-4.0 male and female players with varying styles and swing speed. NTRP ratings alone may not add enough context to the review.

For myself, I'm a 3.5 that was downgraded from 4.0. I have a moderate to fast flat stroke and do not break strings unless it's a shear from a mishit. I go back and forth between an eastern and semi-western grip depending on how much spin I want to generate.
 

dandruffkb

Rookie
Regular string setup & tension: Grapplesnake Alpha 17 at 53#

Play Style: 4.0 All-court, singles prefered, OHBH, love the slice, use second serves offensively.

Racquet(s) used for test: 2021 Gravity Tour with a smidge of lead in the hoop

Tension(s) used for playtest:
ECO POWER: 52#
ECO ROUGH: 48#

Power/Control:
ECO POWER: I think ECO Power was balanced for a shaped string but definitely tilted more towards power. With proper footwork and a loose wrist, you could very easily find the back of the court off both wings. I would compare this to maybe Lynx in terms of perceived power. The power was there from the get go.
ECO ROUGH: Another balanced string but maybe tilted a little more towards control. I really did not have an issue with power, depth, or control. ECO Rough seemed to be best after maybe 45 mins of hitting.

While both strings were relatively similar in power with their respective tensions, I would say the defining characteristic difference here is predictability. ECO Rough was just way more predictable. With good racket head speed both balls ended up in the same area of the court i was just way more confident about "knowing it would be there" with the ECO Rough.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?):
ECO POWER: ECO Power was comfortable crisp and never really got uncomfortable. I am not at maybe 15 hours with it and its still comfy if not a bit "boingy" when I hit. I do not use dampeners so this is a noticeable change in sound.
ECO ROUGH: ECO Rough started out feeling a bit softer even at a slightly higher relative tension. Again, I will mention consistency here. It felt more similar as the playtest went on. I would say ECO rough was "comfortably muted". I felt more connected to Rough than Power because like I stated above, I could swing out and just generally felt more confident and that to me inspired confidence which then made me feel in tune with the string.

Spin:
ECO POWER: ECO Power's spin generation was a bit better than ECO Rough's. The balls had a bit more shape and maybe a touch more hop. ALL things equal I would say the Power creates an arc where the Rough created a jump through the court.
ECO ROUGH: ECO Rough was a little less spinny but for a full poly I found it to be plenty. I think sharp shaped strings are a bit over-rated and found plenty of angles with Rough. The predicatbility AGAIN made me feel more comfrotable swinging faster and finding adequate spin even if it didnt look like it was as spinny. ALL things equal I would say the Power creates an arc where the Rough created a jump thorugh the court.

Playability Duration:

Off the bat I want to say I don't typically break full poly. The only one I have broken clean was Dunlop's "Black Widow"

ECO POWER: 30 minute break in... 3-5 hours of pure bliss... 4-6 hours of noticeable tension drop and noise change... 7+ hours of manageable full poly play. At no point was it uncomfortable or truly difficult to control (at a NTRP 4.0 level)
ECO ROUGH: 45 minute break in... 2-5 hours of consistent characteristic play... 6 hour mark noticed a smaller drop in tension but unfortunately broke this string at the grommet. I think Rough is susceptible to kinking a bit and would string with slightly more care. I take full responsibility for this break as the stringer. At no point was this string uncomfortable or hard to control.

The highs of the Power were higher and the decline faster... but I would prefer the consistency of the Rough if I were to make this a permanent string.

Additional thoughts:
Power was high-octane, Rough was consistent. Those are the main take aways here. I would be interested in trying a batch in a year to see if they are able to create a consistent product with inherently inconsistent recycled materials. I would be curious to know how different the composition of these strings are beyond shape/indentation/color. I think they can definitely keep building off the ECO line.

Factoring in price (I think Luxilon in general is way over-priced) I would rate ECO Power at 6.5/10 and ECO Rough at 7.5/10. I truly think Grapplesnake Alpha combines my favorite qualities of each of these into 1 string.

I really liked the pearl effect of the ECO Rough color. It is neutral so would look good in any racket. If I were Luxilon I would have made ECO Power a neon yellow or something more people might like. I think the teal is distinctive but it is also polarizing.

Thank you TW for including me in this test and I apologize for a slightly late review.

This is a completely useless comment, but the font colors separating the two strings matching the actual string colors was a cute touch

EDIT: @Chairman3 you too! (didn't see yours above till now, sorry!)
 
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mpournaras

Hall of Fame
This is a completely useless comment, but the font colors separating the two strings matching the actual string colors was a cute touch
Hah. I figured if anyone was reading this thread in detail they will have read 10-15 reviews that are walls of text describing 2 different things. Whatever I can do to make it a bit easier I guess?

ONE FINAL THOUGHT:

I think if Luxilon actually cares about recycling then they can easily adapt this packaging to all their strings with maybe some neat ink effects to delineate each line. No reason to have a completely sealed package of poly.
 
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jwocky

Rookie
Great reviews! One piece of advice to TW for these reviews going forward - it would be great if they would ask for player's level of play as part of their write up, as that will significantly impact player's perceptions of these strings. For example, in this case, I strongly suspect that players in the 4.5+ realm are seeing much higher tension/playability dropoff with the ECO Power string than what's being reflected in these reviews. I felt a significant drop off with Eco Power after about 4 hours, and other reviewers hitting balls consistently hard are reporting the same things, but then there are these reviews with folks playing with it for like 10+ hours that I just can't fathom being the case. Might be a great string for those at 3.5 NTRP and below! So I think the reviews/assessments should reflect that.
At the end of any day, the best way to judge a string/racquet/grip/shoe/apparel item is for the player interested in evaluating a string to actually try it.

There are too many variables in any of the these string play tests - tension, racquet, player level and style, opponent level and style, playing conditions, player conditioning, etc. - for any reader to normalize or to create a balanced scorecard for a string.

Analogously, for a racquet or shoe or grip or apparel play test. Everyone's mileage may vary.
 

Fighting phoenix

Professional
At the end of any day, the best way to judge a string/racquet/grip/shoe/apparel item is for the player interested in evaluating a string to actually try it.

There are too many variables in any of the these string play tests - tension, racquet, player level and style, opponent level and style, playing conditions, player conditioning, etc. - for any reader to normalize or to create a balanced scorecard for a string.

Analogously, for a racquet or shoe or grip or apparel play test. Everyone's mileage may vary.
So why are we doing this then from your perspective? Just a basic input to the review that would help what is right for who.
 

dandruffkb

Rookie
I agree with @Fighting phoenix , I think in terms of a review, level of play/skill does matter or at the least a video of groundstrokes/serves/etc. I understand @jwocky's point of it being sold to consumers at all levels, so it is important to get perspective from all levels, but I think knowing what that level of play is for everyone is important. Even TW does it in some of their reviews where they say their skill level + playstyle preference. One can also argue that NTRP/UTR is not a direct indicator of how correctly/fast/heavy someone swings, but it is at least a rough indicator.

I think the extra context doesn't hurt anyone. People who want to buy the string can identify with those at specific levels. I 100% agree that anyone should be able to review strings at any level, but the idea of "spin" to a beginner and how to generate it is vastly different than that of someone higher, and I am speaking as someone closer to the bottom than the top lol.

The point of these reviews is to share our findings and experience with these strings, and if hypothetically, TW selected a batch of playtesters who all deemed this string as amazing 20 hr+ durability, the consumers who lose playability in 5 hours will be pretty irked.

I'm not saying to gatekeep playtesting/reviews, but having context on player strokes/skill helps significantly in terms of which strings are for whom.
 
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Regular string setup & tension: Solinco Hyper G at 50 pounds
Racquet(s) used for test: Babolat Pure Aero

Tension(s) used for playtest
ECO POWER: 50 pounds
ECO ROUGH: 50 pounds

Power/Control
ECO POWER: I would not say it was a powerful poly, and neither a control orientated one. It somehow landed perfectly in the middle for me, with a good 50/50 blend. Overall i'd say it was pretty average
ECO ROUGH: String was very control orientated, but not necessarily dead or muted feeling. It was not a powerful poly, and did not have much pop.

Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp? Comfortable? Connected?)
ECO POWER: Eco power was not very mushy, but I would not call it stiff compared to other polys. I was not as crisp as eco rough, but did have a better connected feel that I would say was enjoyable and comparable to hyper G.
ECO ROUGH: The string was decently comfortable, but had a crisp feeling to it. It was average stiffness for a poly, and not very muted. It somehow has the feel of a control string without being too harsh. Connected feel was also average

Spin
ECO POWER: It had good spin due to the shape of it, but like in eco rough, it was not very slick and string started to get stuck out of position. Once the string started to break in and get indented, spin died off a bit
ECO ROUGH: Spin was where this string shines. The indented features make it so it has good bite, but my complaint is that the string is not very slick. It got stuck out of position and did not get that snapback I like

Playability Duration
ECO POWER: ECO Power surprisingly did not die off very much, and remained consistent. After the 8 hour mark it did drop off a bit, but was not very drastic
ECO ROUGH: This string did lack a bit in playability after the 10 hour mark. Tension was lost, as well as losing it's elasticity.


Tension Recommendations (Would you string it differently next time. Explain)
ECO POWER: I would definitely go looser on this string to elongate some of the playability and enhance some of the spin features it has. The shape helps out a lot, but the string feels like it could be a bit more slick and elastic the looser you put it.
ECO ROUGH: I would also recommend to string looser, somewhere in the mid 40 range to add some ball pocketing and increase elasticity.

As always, thank you TW for the chance to playtest some awesome products! I do apologize for being a day late!
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
Everything being playtested is subjective, imo. I understand those who were only able to get a few hours play with the string, as well as those who have gotten more than 15+ hours. I see 3.0-3.5’s complain of loss in tension/playability after a couple of hours usage, and I also see top level players (*especially the juniors) who never change strings unless they snap. I actually had to convince a girl (*varsity high school player) to change out her string that she used in her Pure Aero for over a year.

It’s probably more interesting to see the variances of the results. There is no perfect string for everyone’s play style. I like to see the likes and dislikes snd the reasons for such.
 

StringStrungStrang

Professional
Our pod episode is live for anyone interested in a deeper dive:
or audio:
or

Hope you enjoy!

Great job Michelle !! Nice hearing from Jo Ann and Thierry about the Wilson / Luxilon connection and how the ECO Power and Rough came to be.
I love the enthusiasm you have for these people and topics - it always makes me want to hear more.
Hard to believe there were somewhere near 100 iterations of the first ECO strings.

I love these insights and I am sure that many others do too !!!
 
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Dunlop300g

Semi-Pro
@Cowboy what did you think about ECO Power's retension vs ECO Rough; I have both still in now but I have been off for over a week trying to get some achilles tendonitis / inflamation to go down. I've been checking the tension maintenance with the tennis tension app and I'm finding the ECO Power in particular to hold quite well. It's very interesting. For example didn't hit with them last week but ECO power is at 42 and ECO Rough is at 39 (today 10/19/23) So really in both cases it's pretty good. Starting at ECO Power 8/14/23 @ 50lbs. Starting ECO Rough 9/3/23 @ 45 lbs. Notching in both case is average to below average but I'm thinking this would be the reason to cut them out not due to tension loss per se.
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
@Cowboy what did you think about ECO Power's retension vs ECO Rough; I have both still in now but I have been off for over a week trying to get some achilles tendonitis / inflamation to go down. I've been checking the tension maintenance with the tennis tension app and I'm finding the ECO Power in particular to hold quite well. It's very interesting. For example didn't hit with them last week but ECO power is at 42 and ECO Rough is at 39 (today 10/19/23) So really in both cases it's pretty good. Starting at ECO Power 8/14/23 @ 50lbs. Starting ECO Rough 9/3/23 @ 45 lbs. Notching in both case is average to below average but I'm thinking this would be the reason to cut them out not due to tension loss per se.

I haven't cut out the ECO Power yet, so I can't comment on whether it "pops" when I cut it. Notching on both strings is/was bad enough that there is a loud "click" when the strings set back into place. The tension app that I was able to get to work on an old tablet gave me very low tension results...even after stringing and calibrating. I don't trust it at all.

I played with ECO Power for another 2 hours last Thursday and my elbow was noticeably sore the next day. For this reason, I have my racquet on the machine, but I haven't decided if I want to cut them out or not. The spin and power generation was still adequate.
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
@Dunlop300g , okay, they're gone.

I was thinking I would play with them at practice tonight, but thinking about my elbow....I decided to go ahead and cut them. There was a pop, indicating that they still had some tension left in them. Not as loud or forceful as 4g Rough, but still considerably more than ECO Rough.

I still think both are excellent strings, and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase either again. I have another set of ECO Rough from when it was a happy hour deal. I'll likely use it as a hybrid in the near future. Overall, I found the ECO Power to be the superior of the two. Power had better spin generation, power, and tension maintenance. The Rough did seem to have a little more touch, IIRC.
 

SlowTiger

Professional
@Cowboy what did you think about ECO Power's retension vs ECO Rough; I have both still in now but I have been off for over a week trying to get some achilles tendonitis / inflamation to go down. I've been checking the tension maintenance with the tennis tension app and I'm finding the ECO Power in particular to hold quite well. It's very interesting. For example didn't hit with them last week but ECO power is at 42 and ECO Rough is at 39 (today 10/19/23) So really in both cases it's pretty good. Starting at ECO Power 8/14/23 @ 50lbs. Starting ECO Rough 9/3/23 @ 45 lbs. Notching in both case is average to below average but I'm thinking this would be the reason to cut them out not due to tension loss per se.
They're weird strings. They didn't stretch during stringing but when the popped they, the distance between the broken ends shows it still had tension... But the strings stuck out of place like crazy
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
Tension maintenance, IME, is as follows:

4G Rough > Alu Power RG > ECO Power > ECO Rough.

To elaborate on that, my go-to string setup is 4G Rough mains (48) and NXT Control crosses (50). Wilson sells it as a pack called Duo Control, but I'm to the point of buying them individually since it is a few bucks cheaper (esp. with the recent b2g1 sales). With my most recent playing with it, I played a season of doubles in two separate leagues (simultaneously....ALTA and Ultimate Tennis) with practice at least one extra night a week. They were in the racquet for over 3 months. When I finally cut them out because I perceived too much trampoline effect, the amount of tension/pop/distance the sting pulled back from where it was cut was astonishing. I expected them to be dead with no life/tension left after extensive "internet research." My takeaway is that they can last a lot longer and you should go by personal experience over what the internet tells you whenever possible.

I replaced them with a pack of Duo Power (Roland Garros) that contained Alu Power RG mains (50) and NXT Power crosses (55). I played several practices and a couple of exhibition matches with those, but never played with them in a match that counted for anything. They were in the racquet for approximately 58 days. Side note: I originally planned to keep these in due to cost, and use the same racquet to test the ECO Rough and ECO Power. After much internal debate, I cut them out so that I could try the ECO Rough and ECO Power side-by-side. The tension/pop/distance after 2 months and much less use, was less than the 4G rough. Therefore, 4G Rough maintained tension longer/better.

The ECO Rough and ECO Power were strung up 2 weeks apart at 48 lbs mains and crosses. The ECO Rough went in first, as I had a pack that I purchased on sale prior to the playtest, and the playtest strings had not yet arrived. Both had roughly the same number of matches and practices, and I did my best to keep them with the same number of hours played. The ECO Rough, when cut, had little or no pop/tension, and stayed mostly in place where they were cut. Granted, they had been strung for 2 additional weeks, I expected more. The ECO Power was fairly close to ALU Power*.

I give that last statement an asterisk because the ECO Power and Rough were cut within a short period of time of each other. That makes them easy to compare. However, it had been a few weeks since I cut ALU Power, so I'm going off memory. Also, the ECO string both had more matches than the ALU Power, so take that for what it is worth.
 

Dunlop300g

Semi-Pro
After it's all said and done ... I'm still seeing quite a good tension maintenance, and long-term playability with Luxilon ECO Power. I'm putting this one up there on my list (along with Head Lynx Tour) as one of two best strings I've used this year. So thanks again to TW for these playtests otherwise I very much doubt I would have ever had this experience with these two exceptional strings.
 

Blade_X

Professional
I am not part of the playtest . I gave my impressions on eco power back then. It felt pretty mediocre at best. Comfort was ok, feel was kinda dead and plastic, power was low but my main issue with it was the total lack of spin.

Today i tried eco rough and it caught me by surprise. It’s a more traditional feeling string unlike power. This is also on the muted side but not so dead and i had enough feedback to place my shots. From the first hit it had sth addictive which I cannot explain and i am waiting to return for a second playtest.

Unique soft response without being mushy. The twisted shape gives you the extra spin when you ask for it. It doesn’t byte like a shaped poly which is a good thing for me because flattening my shots was a treat. This string begs you to take big cuts and that’s why i loved it. It gave me unlimited confidence control-wise….. best thing of it was the classic Luxilon sink of the stringbed (ball stay less compared to eco power) that gives the extra "controlled pop" when it launches the ball. I would describe it as a soft version of alu power rough. Definitely more easy power than eco power but in general it’s a medium powered string. Less power for example than hyper g soft that i am also testing these days. I also felt that it must be a very light string in terms of added SW.

Kudos to LXL….. I couldn’t believe i would love this string so much after my so and so experience with eco power.

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Blade_X

Professional
What a great disappointment. I f loved eco rough but guess what. On my third session (after 5-6 hours) it literally died….. i mean the string movement is unreal….. every after point i would have to adjust the boxes. I am back to 4G as usual.
 

Cowboy

Semi-Pro
ECO Rough is Buy 2 Get 1 @ Luxilon, and essentially the same deal on TW....deal on TW is better if you order more than 3 sets.
 

ChanterRacquet

Professional
Been stringing my Pure Aero Rafa 290 with hybrids here recently, mostly natural multifeel 16 mains with poly crosses.

Yonex Poly Tour Strike 16L crosses was way too stiff.
Tried softening up with Velocity crosses but don't like it as much, just feels off. A little less spin and not as comfortable as the hybrid with...
Luxilon Element 16L, great spin, power, and comfort.
Luxilon Eco Power 16L is very similar at a lower price point to Element 16L.

Going to buy some Isospeed Cream 16L as I am still nursing the elbow, but this ECO seems like good string.

My son is sold on Yonex Poly Tour Fire 16L which I'll need to try at some point, but ECO beats them all by a few dollars price wise. And it's recycled material!

Good stuff!
 
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