Happi
Hall of Fame
I can highly recommend the Briffidi SW machine.
Tennis Warehouse Playtest: Prince ATS Textreme Tour Family
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I can highly recommend the Briffidi SW machine.
finalfantasy7
Semi-Pro
@TW - any update on when the Prince ATS Textreme Tour 98- be in stock tw europe? - last time you stated mid october
finalfantasy7
Semi-Pro
been told by tw europe, they have no idea when they will recieve the prince ats textreme tour 98
y0035215
Rookie
I have read almost everything here. And what strikes me about the spin of the TT 98 is that it is almost always said that the spin is good and sufficient, but also not particularly outstanding / pronounced. The TW review now gives 87 as a value for the topspin (I know it's subjective).
A Head Auxetic Extreme Tour 2022 has the same value (topspin 87), although this is listed as a spin racket, at least according to the manufacturer's advertising.
Can the TT 98 compete with such rackets in terms of spin potential, as the TW reviews suggest?
A Head Auxetic Extreme Tour 2022 has the same value (topspin 87), although this is listed as a spin racket, at least according to the manufacturer's advertising.
Can the TT 98 compete with such rackets in terms of spin potential, as the TW reviews suggest?
jmacdaununder2
Legend
TT98 only has the same head width as the TT95, so the spin window is somewhat compromised, especially in comparison with wider and/or more rounded heads. Having said that, my ATS TT95 is quite spin friendly if you're advanced enough to find the middle consistently.
y0035215
Rookie
If the width is the same where is the difference? shape/length?
jmacdaununder2
Legend
It’s all in the length of the mains; TT98 is actually a relative snowshoe.
stapletonj
Hall of Fame
You know, when my Yonexes are giving me fits control wise, I pull out my Prince and the control comes right back,,,,,
GermanBeast
Rookie
Can anybody compare the ATS 95 with the Head 360+ Prestige pro (red one, 95) ?
For me, they look very similar.
For me, they look very similar.
BillKid
Hall of Fame
mpournaras
Hall of Fame
Quick update:Prince ATS Textreme Tour 100P Review
String and tension used for test: Prince Vortex 16 at 52lbs. Grapplesnake Alpha 1.25 52lbs
Tennis experience/background: 4.0 male player. I prefer singles. No formal training at any point.
Describe your playing style: Righty, OHBH, all court player who likes to play aggressively the moment he is able. Don't mind being up at net
Current racquet/string setups: Angell 100 Custom. 11oz unstrung, 63 RA, 330 strung SW, strung with Alpha and other polys right around 50-52lbs
How many hours did you play with the racquet? ~12 hours
Groundstrokes: This racket is unbelievably stable considering its SW was a few points under spec. I had an issue whipping late groundstrokes... so I suppose that could be defined as sluggishness. Slices are easy to hit as well as routine groundstrokes. The most glaring characteristic that was also experienced by 2 friends that used it too was the low launch angle. I don't mind as I play a relatively flat game but it 100% took a moment to get used to. You really have to hit through the groundies 4/5
Serves: The same strengths and weaknesses were felt here. I struggled a bit on second serve as it just didn't haul ass through the air like the Angells. BUT!... The routine flat serves were super easy to hit and allowed you to really focus on placement and direction. I would say it was hard to dictate with serve using this which was a bit of a bummer as I consider serving one of my strengths. It would be hard to say it didn't cost me some big points. Like groundies, I really had to focus on hitting through the ball, which is a good habit regardless. 3/5
Volleys: The feel on this led to great volleys. Touch and power volleys were easy enough to hit. I like being up at net so this was comforting. I prefer to approach in singles than to be placed there in doubles and as long as I was up there on my own terms I was able to do what I needed. It is so stable and the feel even with full poly was out of this world. 5/5
Serve returns: Returns were good. It was a great start to a point to be able to control where and how the return got there. I found it really hard to indiscriminately swing out on it to crush winners but I think my game needs this control. I was never unsure where the ball was on the string bed. I really like the feet and power level of this beam shape and material. 4/5
Power/Control: I would place this medium high on the control power spectrum. [Control--2--3--4--5--6--7--8--9--Power]. It had the perfect amount of power for a 100" 18-main racket. You probably aren't looking for a cannon if you are in this spec. The string spacing is wide for an 18x20 and that led to adequate power while being able to control it. I have played carious 18x20s over time so I felt at home. 5/5
Top Spin/Slice: Slice was excellent. The stability really did favors here. Top spin was adequate for my game. Easier to generate spin on my forehand. This was where Vortex 16 let me down the most. I just don't think It is a great shaped string. After having switched to Grapplesnake Alpha it all fell into place. 4/5
Comfort: This racquet is extremely comfortable! Comfortable muted. I think I could put a super stiff poly in here at a reasonable tension and have zero issues. This is also screaming for a gut-main hybrid. I cannot wait to try it eventually. I think this dances with the feel super well. Read below. If you are hitting a Pure Drive and have pain and want a little more control... this is a must demo! 5/5
Feel: The feel of the ATS 100P is comfortably muted. It felt like there was a light dampener on it at all times even when nude. I love it. It made a satisfying plonk and crack with full poly. I cannot tell where it is flexing but it FELT stable which inspired confidence. 5/5
Maneuverability: This was probably my main knock on this racket. It is not totally sluggish, but beside known maneuverable rackets it really shows. Maybe its a twistweight thing, but anything involving wrist before the hit really didn't work well here for me. Lots of rushed OHBH that just suffered and ended up in the net. Strung with overgrip and a few grams of lead to bring it up to 320ish strung SW grought the weight to 333g And it felt like it. I was looking forward to going down in weight but I feel like I am back right where I am used to. Its not ideal but not a deal breaker . 3/5
Stability: Unsurprisingly, this racquet is really stable (I fell like I have said this before?). The trade off for all my maneuverability woes seems to have paid dividends here. Rock solid on both sides for high and low balls. I cannot stress this enough... it is a moving brick wall! 5/5
General reaction/comments on overall performance: This racket really hits a sweet spot in the middle of its similarly spec'ed contemporaries. I would like to explore hybrids but that is a far off issue that will be fun and exploratory, not necessary. I do NOT like Prince's Resi-___ line of grips. I took mine off after the first hit and added a Diadem leather/synthetic base grip. I do not feel that this racket made me sacrifice any strong patterns that I like to play, but there were some strange question marks that could have come down to technique. Cross court forehands were sometimes straight into the net even if I felt like I got under it and that took the wind out of my game a few times. I really try not to blame results on rackets but this was hard to ignore. On the other hand... slice approaches then a touch volley were like playing on autopilot. You ALWAYS knew where volleys were going to go and I love that. I also love the paint. NOt just the sweet colors, but it appears to be really high quality.
PROS:
+ Stability
+ Comfort
+ Feel
+ Balance of Control/Power
NEUTRAL:
* Spin
* Paint/Cosmetics
NEGATIVE:
- Manuverability
I will take this largely positive list and keep playing with it. I do not believe there is more customizing that will help me, I will just need to adapt my strokes a bit and I think that is entirely possible. I think I will keep using it but maybe not for my main squeeze just yet! I am pretty happy in 100-inch rackets these days but it REALLY makes me want to try the ATS 98.
Thank you TW for the opportunity to test these new sticks!
I will post some pics tomorrow. Looks great with yellow strings
Ended up going with leather (lifted off one of my Angells) and a gut/poly hybrid at 53#. There is so much feel in this set up. I do wish still that it was a touch more maneuverable but IT is very playable all the same.
Those HEAD Prime Tour overgrips are pretty nasty too
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Kinda matchy matchy but so cute!!
jmacdaununder2
Legend
If that’s SPPP you could also try orange Rev - slightly stiffer string but looks > performance.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Also white Yonex dampener or orange Prince ’P Damp’ from Japan?
I got Cyclone in there but have a huge box of strings to try out, dampener is a rubberband I prefer no dampener but ordered prince tour dampener as well just to try.
BillKid
Hall of Fame
IMO these Tours feel very comfortable but not particularly soft. I mean they do not feel stiff at all but my T100p do not feel as soft as some other racquets with a RA around 60. Maybe because the beam is still 23mm?
I had the same feeling with the 98 which I found relatively close.
Anyway I really like my racquets. Most balanced stick I have ever had.
You should be fine with your set up. Personally I like my 100p strung with HyperG Soft but an hybrid should be great as well.
10S-Junkie
Semi-Pro
The combination of Textreme Graphite and ATS (Twaron) provides a crisp yet comfortable feel. If you cross with a multi, I'd recommend stringing it at the same or higher tension than your poly mains. I have the ATS 98 and have found that some shots can sail unexpectedly when string tension is low. Very comfortable racquet.
It looks quite dense for a 16x19. It must be a great control stick. Too bad I can't buy another frame.Very nice I went with a TW leather grip on my TT98 as well and love it.
10S-Junkie
Semi-Pro
Why not? Due to your geographic location?
I already have 2 frames and that is more than enough at my measly level
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