Tennis Warehouse Playtest: Wilson Clash

bertrevert

Hall of Fame
swinging fast - I didn't frame/mishit a single shot during the first few hours with it. Both on ground strokes and serves. I could see the higher spin and bounce on all my shots.
Given that it is a wide 24/25mm beam I find this interesting.

Perhaps the inner shaping of the hoop, the inside chamfer, just allows a steeper angle of attack, and plainly just less framing?

I had the Tour version in my hand (only 15 mins) - and in that short time the ball I produced had a higher launch angle and more spin.

Obv in that short time I made no adjustments to my swing. I just approached the ball as usual. I use the Speed 360 MP. Swing for swing the ball exited the racquet differently.

(The strings were Lux though.)

You had the regular MP version of the Clash.

For sure I'm a racquet-aholic and will try this version not the heavier Tour.

Whatabout outcomes: did you stay in rallies longer, beat players you usually wouldn't, did you tire more quickly (a spinnier racq may lead to longer points or no put-away plough)?

I wouldn't expect it to be as good at volleys as your Blade btw.
 

atp2015

Hall of Fame
Whatabout outcomes: did you stay in rallies longer, beat players you usually wouldn't, did you tire more quickly (a spinnier racq may lead to longer points or no put-away plough)?

I wouldn't expect it to be as good at volleys as your Blade btw.
Result was really good, serve level went up and was able to hold where I would have lost at 30-40 before. I had high confidence serving and went onto hold from 0-40 once
and 15-40 couple of times. Don't remember holding from 0-40 recently prior to that.

I take big cuts generally and don't play long points often, so longer rallies were rare, so can't comment on that aspect. I hit 2 identical serves and double faults are not uncommon. (Its a time saving tactic to get on with busy life after tennis)

I have hit a lot of practice serves, probably 1000 now in the last 3-4 weeks, I was able to hit almost 100 serve daily because of the racket. I find it incredibly easy on the body to hit serves. My range is 70-80mph, I tried hitting big (by my standards) and crossed 3 digits a few times - have the sensor data to prove. It has given me confidence that I can increase my serve range by 10mph with some shoulder and core conditioning exercises in the next 6 months. Currently focusing on getting more core rotation into the serve.
 
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TennisHound

Legend
Result was really good, serve level went up and was able to hold where I would have lost at 30-40 before. I had high confidence serving and went onto hold from 0-40 once
and 15-40 couple of times. Don't remember holding from 0-40 recently prior to that.

I take big cuts generally and don't play long points often, so longer rallies were rare, so can't comment on that aspect. I hit 2 identical serves and double faults are not uncommon. (Its a time saving tactic to get on with busy life after tennis)

I have hit a lot of practice serves, probably 1000 now in the last 3-4 weeks, I was able to hit almost 100 serve daily because of the racket. I find it incredibly easy on the body to hit serves. My range is 70-80mph, I tried hitting big (by my standards) and crossed 3 digits a few times - have the sensor data to prove. It has given me confidence that I can increase my serve range by 10mph with some shoulder and core conditioning exercises in the next 6 months. Currently focusing on getting more core rotation into the serve.
I would like to see the data from your sensor, and how you would use an iwatch or smart watch to gain this data. I would like to give it a try and see if I can gauge mph on my serve.
 

atp2015

Hall of Fame
I would like to see the data from your sensor, and how you would use an iwatch or smart watch to gain this data. I would like to give it a try and see if I can gauge mph on my serve.
I have an old style sensor (3 years). today, I would just use a smart watch. I pmed you my sensor data - as it may have some personal info.
It shows RHS - I believe you multiply that by 110 percent for the initial ball speed. Based on that data, my fastest serve that day was 117 mph - I don't believe it, hey, but that's what it says!
 
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martyr444

Rookie
Racquet Received: Clash 10.4oz 295gr With plastic still on handle and balance 12pts head light unstrung

String and tension used for test: 1rst setup-Volkl Cyclone Tour Mains at 60# and Wilson Revolve 15 Crosses at 55# 2nd-Tier One T1 Firewire BOOST Hybrid Set Mains at 55# Crosses at 50#

Tennis experience/background: I’ve been playing Tennis now 26 years. I never took it up during High School or College because I was all about Football, Baseball and Basketball. Someone at the local club saw me out just messing around hitting balls with my Daughter using Wooden Rackets. I was just keeping her busy with any and all sports to keep her focused during those wonderful Teen Years. They recognized my Athletic ability and after several attempts and phone calls finally got me to give it a serious try. I ended up getting hooked. Use to play Tournaments all the time for the competition and Trophy’s. Got to play in one money Tournament where 2nd place earned me $300 and the completion was high and a wonderful experience.

Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): I’m a very aggressive in all sports and Tennis is no different. I like to hit heavy ground strokes to get my opponents in defensive mode and jump on short balls that eventually come. When I play doubles the net person is fair game for me from the back of the court and I’ve built up a reputation for that style of play. The club said I changed the sport and some of them have even worn shirts or jackets with Targets on them.

Current racquet/string setups: I’ve been a long time user of the Prince ESP 100T. Currently in my bag you will also find a Prince Phantom Pro 100P- Yonex Vcore 98 - Angell K7 Red as I’m looking for something that will move me to make the change. I like poly hybrid setups and have been using Volkyl Cyclone Tour for my mains for a while now. During the hot summer months, I switch to a Kevlar Hybrid set up and tend to use high tensions during the warm weather. I use lower tensions for the cold Winter months.

How many hours did you play with the racquet? 18 hours

Comments on racquet performance: It’s a versatile Racket which does lots of good things but nothing over the top great for me. Very maneuverable due to specs but with that being said not substantial. I made string and weight adjustments that helped. Once I had it dialed in for the real cold mornings, I had to play more careful when the weather warmed up on the next couple of days. The one thing I missed most was plow through. I do feel the upper portion of the face of the Racket is a little dead.

-Groundstrokes: I had very good directional control with the Clash. It was great for top spin lobs due to the spin and feel of the Racket. It worked really well for short sharp angle shots. I was having issues with no added weight in stock form at times I was way ahead of the ball due to the weight and balance. Most of that was solved once adding some weight to the top half of the Racket Head. The shot I had the most issues with was when I wanted to go all out with a flat shot winner. That’s where the plow was missed so I could drive the ball with authority. I must say I was impressed with the fact that probably due to the inset angle of the inner part of the frame, this thicker beam compared to what I normally used cause no miss hits.

-Serves: I actually served very well with the Clash. My flat serves were a little slower than my normal, but the ball would stay low and skid causing trouble many times for my opponents. Directional control was very good but spin serves weren’t as heavy compared to my normal play.

-Volleys: In stock form my volleys lacked punch and authority as did my overheads. After adding the weight and lower tensions it was much better. Touch drop shots were very good before and after the weight and tension change. It worked very well at the net when playing doubles as its very quick in your hands.

-Serve returns: In stock form it did good with serves that weren’t coming in hard and heavy. A couple of the club’s bigger servers did cause the Racket head to twist from the impact. Once I made the weight and tension changes it was able to handle their heavy serves. After I made those changes on the very cold mornings I was returning very aggressive and everything was staying in. Then the days when it warmed up I had to be more careful from hitting long.

-General reaction/comments on overall performance: Unless you’re playing with lower level hitters, I felt the Racket didn’t have enough weight especially in the head. I also had trouble with my timing at stock because of it just being too light and too head light. My guess is the Tour version would fit my game better. For me it was a very good serving Racket and once customized the ground strokes were very effective except for my flat all out driving shots. I did get good jump on the ball with my topspin shots. If I were to Clash some more, it would be with the Tour version. I’m not counting it out against the other sticks in my bag in my journey to find a replacement. Out of the other Rackets currently in my bag this played most like the K7 Red for me. There is no perfect Racket, but I do like where Wilson it trying to go with this...……….

A very big thanks to TW and Wilson for this play test as I enjoyed it very much!!!!!!!!
 
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martyr444

Rookie
Which one (Clash or K7) is better and why? Thanks
They are very close. The K7 has more weight and is less head ight so it wins in the flat shots with a little more plow through. I haven't hit with the Clash Tour but by specs alone it should be even closer in playability compared to the K7. I play well with both of them, but I'm not at the point to where I know if they can beat the other contenders in my bag currently.
 

OlgaOM

New User
They are very close. The K7 has more weight and is less head ight so it wins in the flat shots with a little more plow through. I haven't hit with the Clash Tour but by specs alone it should be even closer in playability compared to the K7. I play well with both of them, but I'm not at the point to where I know if they can beat the other contenders in my bag currently.
Thanks! Hearing all the good things about Angell racquets, I will give K7 a try - it's a way too long waiting for Clash anyways :)
 

mogo

Rookie
String and tension used for test: 1st: Hyper G 17 @ 48/ 2nd: Luxilon Alu Power16L @ 53/ 3rd: Hyper G 17 @ 52
Update: On my 4th string variation with the Clash Tour and now trying Solinco Tour Bite Soft 17g @ 50pds. I am liking Tour Bite Soft better than Hyper G, which I didn't think I would. I may try Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution 17 next but not sure what tension. I am tempted to try 40pds to see if any the difference in launch angle would be. Has anyone else on the playtest tried 40 or a sub 40 tension with either the Clash Tour or Clash?? I would like to hear if it was worth it to string at this tension.
 

bertrevert

Hall of Fame
Update: On my 4th string variation with the Clash Tour and now trying Solinco Tour Bite Soft 17g @ 50pds. I am liking Tour Bite Soft better than Hyper G, which I didn't think I would.
This is exactly what I would be trying in the Clash. One of the softer polys. To see if low RA affects comfort?

This is one of the few polys I can play with in a normal frame and not get TE. I like TB soft! How is the comfort of this frame? Does a low RA somewhat negate the effects of poly?

(Or is all that a... furphy! - does RA actually affect in any way the vibrations transmitted by poly...?)
 

prjacobs

Hall of Fame
Update: On my 4th string variation with the Clash Tour and now trying Solinco Tour Bite Soft 17g @ 50pds. I am liking Tour Bite Soft better than Hyper G, which I didn't think I would. I may try Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution 17 next but not sure what tension. I am tempted to try 40pds to see if any the difference in launch angle would be. Has anyone else on the playtest tried 40 or a sub 40 tension with either the Clash Tour or Clash?? I would like to hear if it was worth it to string at this tension.
I really like Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 17L. Even softer Than the Tour Bite Soft with a ton of spin. I gradually lowered the tension in my 2013 APD and I now string @ 43lbs.


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mogo

Rookie
This is exactly what I would be trying in the Clash. One of the softer polys. To see if low RA affects comfort?

This is one of the few polys I can play with in a normal frame and not get TE. I like TB soft! How is the comfort of this frame? Does a low RA somewhat negate the effects of poly?

(Or is all that a... furphy! - does RA actually affect in any way the vibrations transmitted by poly...?)
I like the comfort of the Clash Tour. I have not noticed any more or less vibrations compared to my other racquets. The RA does not negate the poly but it does feel more sensitive when the strings start to set in and cut into each other. I notice more spin needs to be put on the ball when it's about to break. I think the RA just allows you to drive through the ball or have a longer follow through because of the flex. I'm curious to see what lowing the tension may do.
 
Tennis Warehouse Play test : Wilson Clash

1. Racket Received: Clash

2. String and tension: Solinco Hyper G 17 @52lbs

3. Tennis experience/background: 20+ years playing, self taught.. 4.0 level

4. Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): mostly the typical American topspin baseline basher. Serve is by far my biggest weapon. Can crack first serve aces down the T and place 2nd serves with fast- heavy spin/slice. Consistency is my biggest weakness as I always go for too much/too soon on my forehand. Forehand volleys and overall footwork are other issues I'm working on. I demoed 50 racquets over the past 2 years and most felt either immediately terrible or felt good but not enough power or spin. Played great 2 years ago with a super leaded up Babolat Pure Aero Plus that really upped my big serve and big forehand game. But the lack of feel made me not enjoy tennis as much even if I won my matches! I'm weird, I guess..but feel is important too!

5. Current racquet/string setups: Babolat Pure Drive Plus ..still experimenting with full poly and poly/gut hybrids. Winning still because my serve is the same, but struggling to find consistency with my forehand. I thought the change from Aero+ to Drive+ would be easy...but it has been harder than expected with my forehand.

6. Hours used: 20+ - indoors in winter... sigh, wish I lived somewhere Warmer so I could have tripled my time on court!

7. Groundstrokes - a real pleasure for me.. as I used to play with the Pure Aero plus and the string pattern seems similar. Super open..Tons of spin. More than adequate power! Decent control. I had zero adjustment time...was just able to pick it up and instantly felt natural/comfortable in match play. Topspin was the racquets strong suit. It sliced better than I thought it would considering the thick hoop.

8. Serves - loved it! My game is all about serve and most standard length racquets just don't give me enough power and spin. So it is a big deal, i.m.o., that the Clash passed my test. I could crack aces no problem and even better was the confidence I had in hitting Big kicking 2nd serves! Somehow it was stiff on 2st serves but it felt perfectly flexy to grab the ball on kickers.

9. Volleys - ooh, here is where I struggled. Now I admittedly look like a caveman at the net, but it was not smooth sailing trying to hit volleys. If you hit it dead center it felt great...but off center volleys just died and dribbled weakly into the net. I also had a tough time hitting drop volleys as they came off with WAY less power than I anticipated and never made it over the net. Might get used to it eventually though..top of the hoop where I hit those shots with my Pure Drive gives much more powerful shots.

10. Serve Returns - Amazing! My favorite shot to hit with this racquet! Power/Spin/Feel gave me extra confidence to crush returns. if I got a weak serve, the net guy was gonna get a free tattoo!!!

11. Overall - a great racquet from Wilson. Similar to the new softer Aero but this Clash goes even further to up the comfort. The added flex ( I think it's stiff in the middle but upper and lower hoop is super flexible) allowed some shots that I would have sprayed wide to land in the court.
I have been looking for a new racquet for 2 years. No standard length racquet played as well as the Clash did for me. No transition time needed.. just pick up and start swinging! It was just a lot of FUN to use!
No racquet has given me this amount if confidence that I could use it in a match right away like I felt with the Clash!
It isn't an old style control racquet..it is more of a modern baseline poly string basher..but with improvements in arm comfort and control due to precise flex areas. (?)
I just started using the Pure Drive Plus and now I am super tempted to switch. As of right now though I am keeping the Pure Drive Plus as my main sticks. I like the added pop when I hit my forehand or first serve perfectly but also do not want to switch unless I am completely sure. $$$
After being totally unimpressed with the CV Blades and Pro Staffs I demoed,. the Clash is a huge improvement.
I love the dazzle paint on the Clash too!
If Wilson wants to sponsor a 45y/o mediocre player with a sweet player's package... I would be thrilled to use the CL^SH successfully and exclusively in my weekly old man doubles matches!!! The Clash is no prestige mid, but for those thinking the Aero/Pure Drive/Ultra/Burn is nice but the feel is terrible... I think the Clash is the answer.

Thanks to TW and Wilson for this playtest opportunity!!!
 

!<-_->!

Hall of Fame
Racquet Received: Clash Tour
String and tension used for test: Luxilon ALU Fluoro 16L/Tecnifibre Multifeel 16. 48/51
Tennis experience/background: 4.0. Been playing on and off for the past 10 years, mostly with friends with the occasion USTA league sprinkled in
Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): All court with a preference to hang around the baseline.
Current racquet/string setups: Yonex VCore Pro 97 310g modded to 343g. Leather grip and lead at 2&10. Strung with Luxilon ALU Fluoro 16L/Tecnifibre Multifeel 16 at 48/51.
How many hours did you play with the racquet? About 30 hours, with the first 20ish playing the racket stock. Last 10ish hours added a leather grip to the racket.

Comments on racquet performance:
-Groundstrokes: The racket was immediately more powerful than my current racket, which would make sense given its thicker beam. The added power would've been fine, but the higher launch angle made hitting my forehand difficult as the ball would consistently fly long. During the first part of the playtest, I found myself whipping my stroke excessively just to keep the forehand in. The added power and launch angle was appreciated off the backhand wing as my backhand is a much flatter shot. I was able to get more net clearance with the same stroke. However, I did find I needed to actively brush the ball more to make sure it wouldn't sail out. Off both wings casual rallies were effortless, but trying to attack a ball required being more methodical because of the extra power. The feel of frame was interesting. Reports of this frame is that it's super flexible, but I didn't find it to be flexible. Never had that feeling of the ball sinking into the string bed. The frame was never uncomfortable, but I would the feel off the string bed to be a slightly more muted version of my VCore Pro. Having used the Duel G previously, that racket felt far more flexible when compared to the Clash Tour even though it is supposedly the flexier of the two. Off center shots were also relatively comfortable. Didn't feel like it was ever jarring, and the drop off in power was minimal. This perception is probably due to my experience of a sharp drop off in power when hitting off center with my Yonex. Slices were where I struggled the most. I could not get a good bite and the slices all tended to float high, albeit i was able to get them to land deep. After I added a leather grip to the frame, it felt more in my wheel house. Making it more headlight seemed to tame the power slightly, though I would still need to be careful when trying to attack the ball. Regular rallies felt far more fluid and effortless once I made this mod. Stability also did not suffer when making the frame more headlight. If I were to use this frame long term, I would definitely prefer it in this form. All in all, either stock or modded groundstrokes seems to be a strong point of this frame. Just wouldn't be my go to given my history with lower powered, thin beam frames.

-Serves: With all the power and launch angle, serving slice serves was a breeze with this serve. I found that I could put in very little effort to produce a nice sliding serve. Kick serves felt about average. I didn't notice any additional height from my kicker. The one serve I did struggle with was the flat serve. Not sure if it was the beam width or something else but I was never able to get a consistent swing for the flat serve. The power was there, but it was difficult to reign in and the feel on impact on the flat serve was a bit lacking. For some reason, going for spin serves made it easier to get a read on the feel of the serve. With the leather grip, all serves were about the same. I didn't find the extra weight helping or hurting what I was already experiencing with the frame stock. Overall, I'd say this was the weakest part of the playtest for me.

-Volleys: I was quite surprised when volleying with this. I did not expect this frame to be so solid at net. I'd say this was my favorite part of the playtest as I never felt like frame would twist around when making impact. Each time it was just a very solid feel, and a great point and shoot type of frame. As long as I kept the racket out in front and kept the swing to a minimum, the results were great. With the leather grip, the volleys were still very crisp. My preference would be to play it with the leather grip as the more headlight balance made it even more maneuverable without robbing it of any stability. I'll lump in overheads into this category as well. Just like the serve, overheads were a bit of mix bag. The flat put away overheads were a bit iffy, with the more defensive/neutral slice overhead being the better of the two for me.

-Serve returns: I would rate serve return as the 2nd strongest aspect of this frame. The stability and power made the shorter swing of a serve return much more effective. I could get away with being a bit late or not hitting super clean to still produce a good result. The inherent power, launch angle and stability showed itself as a huge plus here. Slice returns were similar to slicing when hitting groundies. I struggled to keep them low so my preference was to hit over the ball since that yielded a much better result.

-General reaction/comments on overall performance: Overall I'd say this was a fairly positive playtest. It's quite different from my usual setup so some of the issues I experienced came from my preference and familiartiy with lower powered frames. However, I could see this as being a viable option if it was the only option I had. If I had to compare this to another racket, I'd say it closely resembles the new Babolat Pure Aero, with a smidgen less power and a bit more comfort. Thus I think this racket will appeal to a wide spectrum of players, but probably less to those who are more acclimated to thin beam, lower powered frames.

Thank you Tennis-Warehouse for the opportunity to playtest this prototype.
 

cknobman

Legend
Racquet Received: Clash Tour

String and tension used for test: Luxilon Alu power full bed 55lbs, I was sent NXT but it broke so fast (in less than 1 set) I am not going to mention how the racquet plays with it. This isn’t anything to do with this racquet though as any multi will break on me, in an any racquet I use, very quickly.

Tennis experience/background: USTA rated 4.5 player (although I feel like I’m really a 4.0), UTR 6.54. I started as a 3.0 in 2006 with a little prior experience from a few lessons and 1 semester of high school tennis. I tore the labrum in my shoulder in 2017 and had to take a year off due to complications from surgery and recovery time. I started playing again in the summer of 2018.

Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): I am a primarily a baseliner who will attack the net when the opportunity arises. I have a one handed backhand and a semi-western grip for the forehand. I hit a big serve, forehand, and overhead. My volleys are not the strongest but get the job done. My backhand is consistent but not strong enough to consider an attacking shot. I rely a lot on my speed and reflexes to get short and angled balls opponents consider winners.

Current racquet/string setups:
Racquet: Head Graphene Touch Speed MP
Strings: Head Hawk 16 full bed @55lbs and Signum Pro Yellow Jacket 16 full bed @55lbs

How many hours did you play with the racquet? Over 15 hours and still going

Comments on racquet performance:
-Groundstrokes: 9.5/10
Spin spin spin with decent control is the mantra for me. I found that it was easy to generate spin on both backhand and forehand. The power is there but it is not uncontrollable or overwhelming. Compared to my Head this felt similar power wise but a tad more stable on off center shots, I’ll attribute this to the thickness of the beam. I had to make sure I didn’t try to play too close to the lines as the control was just not precise enough.
forehand - I could go fairly big with my shots and keep the ball in play. Balls would dive and hit deep in the court close to the baseline. In singles I found success hitting angled spin shots that would push my opponents farther and farther off court. In doubles I found it easy to hit low dipping shots forcing attacking net opponents to often volley up.
backhand - Hitting backhands was very comfortable with this frame. Due to easy spin I was able to swing out and hit some pretty amazing one handers.

-Serves: 8/10
Hitting a good kicker with this frame was easy and fun. I felt like I could really make the ball jump off the court. It was fairly easy to get the head through fast and I felt like there was enough head weight to make solid contact. Since the frame has good power I didn’t feel like I was having to put a ton of effort in to my serve to get decent pace. I’d say this frame definitely has more power than my Head when it comes to serves.

-Volleys: 8/10
This is the least developed part of my game and usually the place where I struggle most. I did find this frame decently quick and maneuverable enough in doubles to be effective at volleys. I’d give the nod to my Head on being a bit quicker but I’d give the nod to this clash on being a tad more stable.

-Serve returns: 9/10
Love serve returns with this frame. The spin and comfort allows me to be aggressive and confident on my returns. Blocking back serves on my backhand was easy and controllable. Topspin returns on both forehand and backhand were easy to hit (given I had time) and would drop in deep. Compared to my Head racquet there are tradeoffs. This Wilson has a larger sweetspot making it possible to hit more aggressive shots but the Head had a tad more control letting me feel more comfortable going down the line on the return.

-General reaction/comments on overall performance:
I’ve been a Wilson fan for many years and moved away because I felt like they didn’t make a racquet spec that really fit my current game.
With this Clash tour I feel like that might have changed. The specs are very close to my head and the playability is very very good. If the production version of the racquet is similar to this frame then I think Wilson has a winner on their hands!
This frame is perfect for a tweener style frame that power and spin players desire.
 

gmatheis

Hall of Fame
Racquet Received: Wilson Clash Tour

String and tension used for test: Pro's Pro Black Out at 48lbs for about half the time and then switched to Luxilon Alu power at 48lbs

Tennis experience/background: Consider myself a strong 4.0 player (strokes closer to 4.5 but movement ability of a 3.5) I'm also PTR certified 10 and under coach.

Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): First strike baseliner

Current racquet/string setups: Wilson RF97A with Black Out @48lbs

How many hours did you play with the racquet? 30+ mix of doubles, singles, and drilling.


-Groundstrokes: 9/10 For the first several times I used the Clash I was not impressed with groundstrokes. It seemed easy to hit but my groundstrokes did not seem to have the weight behind them that I'm used to with my RF97A. Because movement is not my strength I like shorter points and I was not loving the Clash. Towards the end of the playtest though my opinion has changed. The Clash, with it's lighter weight and headlight setup seems to lend itself to swinging with high racquet head speed as opposed to the plow through feel I have with the RF97A. When I started to really get the racquet head moving faster and go after my groundstrokes I started getting the penetration that was missing at first

-Serves: 10/10 From the start this is where I was most impressed with the Clash Tour. Control and spin were noticeably increased from my RF97A but what I wasn't expecting was that I actually had more pace on my serve without sacrificing accuracy. I had more aces and more unreturned serves than I usually do as well as a higher first serve percentage. I think part of the reason was the lower weight allowing me to get the Clash moving faster than I can with my RF97A but I'm not sure that alone explains why I felt that it had more accuracy and spin at the same time. This never changed and I simply LOVED the way the Clash served throughout the entire playtest.

-Volleys:
8/10 There were positives and negatives for me on the volleys. On the positive side the Clash was much easier to move at the net than my RF97A so that quick volleys that I might otherwise feel late in getting to were easier with the Clash. Once there I didn't feel like I had the plow through to really stick the volley the way the RF97A does. Don't misunderstand me, the Clash feels stable and quick at the net it just doesn't seem to have the easy plow through feel my RF97A has once I get the RF97A in position.

-Serve returns: 8.5/10 The maneuverability of the Clash made returns pretty easy. Along the lines of groundstrokes I felt that I was better off being aggressive with my returns rather than simply blocking back, but the Clash seemed to make being aggressive easier than with my RF97A.

-General reaction/comments on overall performance: It took me a while to truly appreciate the Clash Tour. Trying to play it the same way I play my RF97A did not work out so well. When I finally adapted and started swinging faster I was pretty impressed. I still believe it's a better racquet for people who like to really go after their shots with high racquet head speed versus plow through. I want to reiterate how much I loved serving with the Clash Tour. even the people I played noticed my serves had more "pop" on them and that I was getting a higher number of first serves in play. As final note the BlackOut string I started with made the racquet feel a little hollow, probably because it's a really soft poly. The Luxilon ALU Power seemed to pair with the Clash Tour's flexibility a bit better for me.
 

cknobman

Legend
@cknobman, great review. Does the Clash Tour have a more open string pattern than your Touch Speed MP? Is it a big difference?
The string pattern is very slightly more open than my Head even though they are both technically 16x19. I'd say its because the Wilson head is slightly more round than the Head.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
Racquet Received: Wilson Clash Tour

String and tension used for test: Lux natural gut @57# full bed.

Tennis experience/background: 4.5 level. Back in HS I played the #1 singles position for 3 years. In my mid-40's now, so am just as concerned with long-term arm health as I am with power/spin.

Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): All court player. Like to attack the net whenever I have a short ball.

Current racquet/string setups: Wilson ProStaff 97S with Lux Natural Gut 1.25 @ 57#. Recently transitioned from RF97A with gut/poly at 52/47.

How many hours did you play with the racquet? 15 hours of singles (mostly limited to indoor court time - I wish this playtest was in the summer so I could have played more!)

-Groundstrokes: 8.5/10

I particularly like the Clash for my slice BH, it knifes through the air much better than I thought it would. Topspin groundies are also nice, but don't have the plow-through that I'm used to with my ProStaff rackets. Long-term I might add some lead for more plow-through.

-Serves: 9.5/10

The Clash serves very nice. It was my favorite shot with this racket. It doesn't have as much pop as my ProStaff (which is not surprising since it has less swingweight), but it still hits a very solid flat 1st serve and slice 1st serve. The 2nd serve kick/topspin was my favorite to hit with the Clash. This serve had more spin than I get with my ProStaff (due to more racket head speed?) and was kicking off the court very nicely. The head-light balance of the Clash probably also helps with the kicker/topspin.

-Volleys: 9/10

The Clash has a very nice feel on volleys. I thought it performed well on touch/drop volleys and also on harder-hit putaway volleys. It feels very maneuverable at net, and I like the headlight balance at net.

-Serve returns: 9/10

I use a block/slice return against 1st serves and usually topspin on 2nd serve returns. The Clash had good control on serve returns for both block/slice and topspin. However, it was sometimes difficult to return powerful serves with the Clash. The addition of some lead in the hoop and/or putty in the buttcap to increase recoil weight might help if you're regularly facing bigger servers.

-General reaction/comments on overall performance:

My Clash Tour, strung with 1.25 Lux gut at 57# was 325 g and 9.5 points HL. The balance feels very nice in the hand. I'm used to between 8-10 points HL, so this is right up my alley. Very soft when hitting, absolutely no shock to my arm (nat gut + low RA, so this makes sense). But yet the racket feels very solid upon impact.

Aerodynamically, the racket slices through the air nicely. I was worried since it was such a thick beam that it would be too bulky when swinging, but maybe the shape of the frame is improving the aerodynamics? Even though it is thicker, I would say it cuts through the air almost as well as my thin-beam ProStaff 97S, and maybe a little better than my RF97A.

Definitely less power than my RF97A (hybrid gut/poly) and I would say even a little less power than my 2015 ProStaff 97S (which I also string full bed gut at same tension). The swingweight feels quite a bit lower than both of these rackets (which are ~335 swingweight off she shelf), so it makes sense that the Clash would have less power. If you're looking for a big powerful racket like the RF97A, to push around your opponents, the Clash is not it IMHO (unless you add some lead). Control and spin I would say is on par with the RF97A and ProStaff 97S.

Even though it's 100" 16x19, it's a little tighter string pattern than I thought it would be in the sweet spot. There are large gaps at the sides and bottom, and more dense near the middle/top of the racket. This probably helps with the control. I would say the sweetspot string density is similar to the RF97A.

I'm used to a leather grip, so the Clash bevels feel less pronounced than I'm used to. I would prefer the racket have a leather grip.

Also, the buttcap is different than the Prostaff, it doesn't have the sharp points at the end of the buttcap. Instead, the buttcap kind of slopes away from the racket, so it feels different in my palm. Also, because of the way the buttcap is shaped, the grip doesn't go down as far to the end of the buttcap as on my Prostaff. This effectively shortens the racket by about 1/8" or so, from what I'm used to. Long-term, I would put the ProStaff replacement buttcap on this racket so that I didn't lose that bottom 1/8".

My friend with a 2HBH also hit with my Clash and immediately noticed that the handle length was longer than his ProStaff. I didn't notice this since I hit with 1HBH and don't need the extra length. But this is a bonus for those players with 2HBH.

I think this is a racket that is definitely worth demoing if you're looking for an arm-friendly option which offers a nice blend of power/spin/control. I would strongly recommend it from all levels up to 4.5 players. In my opinion, arm-friendly is its best characteristic, I never felt any arm pain when hitting shots (even mishits), with the combination of natural gut along with the low RA of the Clash. Best of luck and thank you TW for the opportunity to demo this racket!
 
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etd

Rookie
Racquet Received

Wilson Clash


String and tension used for test:

Head Velocity 16 @ 52 Main / 50 Cross.

With this string job, the Clash weighed 10.7 ounces according to the scale at my local post office.


Tennis experience/background:

I would describe myself as a 4.0 Weekend Warrior who is a stronger doubles player than singles player. I play in tennis club house leagues and go to drill classes.


Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley):

All court player in singles. Serve and volley / chip and charge in doubles. I do enjoy coming to the net. I have an eastern forehand and a 1 handed backhand.



Current racquet/string setups:

I have played with various versions of the gold Head Instinct for the past 11 years. My current racquet is a Head Liquidmetal Instinct (Austrian) strung with Prince Original Synthetic Gut 17 @ 55 Main / 53 Cross. I have also used the Head Microgel Instinct and the Head Youtek Instinct.

Before the Instincts, I played with the Head Pro Tour 280 (both Austrian and Chinese). I bought the Austrian Head Pro Tour 280 at Tennis Warehouse as an in-person customer a long, long time ago. Makes me feel old.


How many hours did you play with the racquet?

10 hours. All indoors as I live in an area with a cold winter.


Comments on racquet performance:

Groundstrokes:

The swingweight of the Clash felt very low. As a result, there were a few times when I mistimed hitting the ball as the racquet was moving so fast. Power was adequate. The Clash worked better for my backhand than my forehand as my swing is shorter on the backhand side. I could hit both topspin and slice backhands. On my forehand, where my swing is faster, longer, and loopier, I had problems. The racquet was too unstable, and the feel was vague so there were times I couldn’t judge how the ball would leave the racquet. The Clash was very comfortable, but it didn’t have the flexible feel of an Austrian Head Pro Tour 280 or an original Head Microgel Radical.


Serves:

Serves were the best shot for me. I could place my serves well, and I also found good levels of spin and kick. The power level was good for me, especially considering the weight of the racquet. I rely more on placement and spin for my serve than power. However, I could see other people saying that the Clash is underpowered for serving.


Volleys:

Maneuverability at the net was excellent. However, I only got favorable results if I hit the ball dead center, and even so, my volleys did not have as much pace or depth as I would have liked. There were many times where balls would spray due to the lack of stability. I could move the racquet quickly for overheads, but did mistime my swing occasionally due to the balance/swingweight. The Clash was comfortable at net, even on mishits.


Serve returns:

Surprisingly, serve returns were better for me than ground strokes. I found the best feel and dwell time on serve returns and could hit back some decent paced serves with good power and depth. I am still not sure how this happened considering the Clash’s performance on ground strokes.


General reaction/comments on overall performance:

The Wilson Clash would be best for a beginning/intermediate player or a junior looking for a regular length frame as it is very comfortable and easy to handle. In an age where many racquets are either too stiff or are too unwieldy, the Clash is a unique entry.

However, Wilson went too far in the other direction with the swingweight. The racquet was much too headlight, especially for its weight class where racquets are typically only 3 or 4 points headlight strung. Another reviewer mentioned that his Clash was 8 points headlight strung, and that matched up with how the Clash felt to me. I did add some Gamma Head Guard tape to the top of the racquet towards the end of my playtest. This only helped a little. Advanced players will have to add a lot of weight to the Clash, or go straight to the heavier Clash Tour.

It didn’t help that the Clash I received was significantly underweight. I was expecting a racquet that would be 11.0 or 11.1 ounces strung, not 10.7 ounces. It would be nice if I could test a Clash that is at its weight target to see how differently it plays from my underweight sample.

Everyone I showed the racquet to really liked the automotive camouflage paint and said it was a much better choice than the typical Wilson paint scheme. They all hoped that this camouflage paint would be the real paint job for the Clash.

In summary, I really liked the concept of the Clash, but the execution fell short.

Thank you very much to Tennis Warehouse and Wilson for the opportunity to try out the Clash!
 

PBODY99

Legend
Well, the pj has been exposed down under by a Wilson player. I was turn off by the cameo pj.
How it plays important, pj secondary at best.
 

bertrevert

Hall of Fame
Groundstrokes: The swingweight of the Clash felt very low. Power was adequate ... but it didn’t have the flexible feel of an ... original Head Microgel Radical.
How did you feel about the power difference between these?

(I found the MG Rad incredibly anemic, light, and underpowered. All a long time ago. So I wonder how these compare?)
 

etd

Rookie
It feels and plays like the HEAD MG Rad OS in stock form


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With even less power or stability than either the Microgel Radical OS or the Microgel Radical MP.

As I mentioned before, I received a Clash that was only 10.7 ounces strung (around 0.3 or 0.4 ounce under target) and was extremely headlight. I'll have to add a bunch of weight to get it near the specs of the Microgel Radical - that is my next project when I have some time. I didn't want to do this for the review.
 
With even less power or stability than either the Microgel Radical OS or the Microgel Radical MP.

As I mentioned before, I received a Clash that was only 10.7 ounces strung (around 0.3 or 0.4 ounce under target) and was extremely headlight. I'll have to add a bunch of weight to get it near the specs of the Microgel Radical - that is my next project when I have some time. I didn't want to do this for the review.
It’s a tough ask when one can purchase THREE great platform frames like the MG Rad MP for the price of one Clash.


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mogo

Rookie
Update: On my 5th string job with the Clash Tour, now trying Solinco Hyper G @ 57 pds which is about 9 pds higher than I usually string. I have to say this is a better setup so far. I feel the ball well and I am less worried about the ball sailing out. I have not tried a low 40's yet as I think this maybe too low with the flex of the clash.
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
Update: On my 5th string job with the Clash Tour, now trying Solinco Hyper G @ 57 pds which is about 9 pds higher than I usually string. I have to say this is a better setup so far. I feel the ball well and I am less worried about the ball sailing out. I have not tried a low 40's yet as I think this maybe too low with the flex of the clash.
question, how often does the setup last you?
im thinking that the class is going to be a string eater, a thick 16g poly will be needed for hard hitters
are you hitting with the light or heavy clash?
 

dmcb101

Professional
Update: On my 5th string job with the Clash Tour, now trying Solinco Hyper G @ 57 pds which is about 9 pds higher than I usually string. I have to say this is a better setup so far. I feel the ball well and I am less worried about the ball sailing out. I have not tried a low 40's yet as I think this maybe too low with the flex of the clash.
I received a demo of what I think is the tour version strung at 46# and half way through the string job and it was a rocket launcher. I am interested to see how comfortable it is at higher tensions. On a side note, the demo is a 4½ grip size and I usually use 4¼ so it is a big difference.

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mogo

Rookie
question, how often does the setup last you?
im thinking that the class is going to be a string eater, a thick 16g poly will be needed for hard hitters
are you hitting with the light or heavy clash?
I'm getting about 8 to 10 hours before breaking, I will need at least another one to be safe in tournaments. I am using 17 gauge so 16 should last longer.

I received a demo of what I think is the tour version strung at 46# and half way through the string job and it was a rocket launcher. I am interested to see how comfortable it is at higher tensions. On a side note, the demo is a 4½ grip size and I usually use 4¼ so it is a big difference.

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Tighter tension will make the launch angle not as high and help keep the ball in.
 

Quicknick

New User
Did anybody of you tested both rackets and could let me know the major differences between both of them?
I'm playing RF97 for 2 years now and I tested the normal Clash for one hour and basically was pretty surprised of this stick, I just didn't like the "speed difference" between 3/4 strokes and going full flat out as the speed increase wasn't so big as if I compare it with my RF97.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
Wilson is having a "demo day" this afternoon at my club. Unfortunately I couldn't officially sign up because I couldn't commit to the time (middle of the afternoon) but I think I can find time to stop by and see if the have a Clash with them. Hopefully talk my way into hitting for a few minutes if so.
 

Geoff

Hall of Fame
I was so interested in this frame. The hype was unreal. The reviews on this playtest pretty much killed my interest for the frame, though.
Hello @mhkeuns in my opinion this is a frame that you have to play test with no bias. I think you will be surprised. Obviously no one frame is for everyone.
 
Played with one this morning Xplosion/rpm 55/53. Great comfort and spin. Very very powerful, I felt that the flexibility of this racquet generated a lot of extra power.

I'm going to get one and string it with less powerful strings. Should be on everyones list to try. Plays differently than any other racquets I've tried. You feel a trampoline effect due to the flex of the shaft but is very controlable once you tame it.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
Hello @mhkeuns in my opinion this is a frame that you have to play test with no bias. I think you will be surprised. Obviously no one frame is for everyone.
I think you are right. I was expecting it to be something like a so-called Prostock Pure Drive that supposedly some Babolat sponsored players use. I guess no frame is bad. Just seems like the hype isn’t there anymore for most people after the playtest. I will probably try it as soon as they available to demo just to see.
 

AMGF

Professional
Some call it a rocket launcher, some call it less powerful than a Microgel Radical MP.
Some say it is very stable, some say it is unstable.
Wilson QC seems to be on par with their usual self, which is pretty much all over the place.

Will probably demo it when the hype has died out. But it doesn't sound like the promised revolution and probably a ton of those will end up in the TW classifieds.
 

ludde

Rookie
Some call it a rocket launcher, some call it less powerful than a Microgel Radical MP.
What will be a good string tension starting point for the Tour Version with gut/poly (Vs/Revolve) for cold days? Is 55/52 too much for this flexy frame?
 

AMGF

Professional
What will be a good string tension starting point for the Tour Version with gut/poly (Vs/Revolve) for cold days? Is 55/52 too much for this flexy frame?
I don’t know I haven’t tested it yet.

Rule of thumb, low flex frames play well with high tensions. In the days when wooden frames ruled, many would string gut at very high tensions. That being said, I have no clue if the Clash will play well at higher tensions. But 55/52 is a good starting point for gut/poly blend.
 

10sGearHead

New User
I hit with the Clash Tour strung with Head Hawk touch at 52 lbs on Tuesday evening and I was really shocked at how stiff the racquet played with all of the hype around how flexible it is. Not sure how my experience is so different from everybody else's, but I was actually starting to worry about my arm it was so stiff. It was a cold night and freshly strung which might have added to it, but I still expected it to be much more comfortable than it was with that much flex. On the plus side, I did really like how it was an easy point and shoot frame and was impressed that I could still hit a low penetrating slice with such an open string pattern. I also did notice the frame stiffening up on harder shots vs. softer ones as others have described which is pretty intriguing. Really want to try it with a hybrid, a multi or maybe at lower tension. Also heard the new Luxilon string is supposed to be a great match for it.
 
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