Tennis Warehouse Playtest: Wilson Labs Shift Prototype

TW Staff

Administrator
Attention Talk Tennis Members:

Are you ready for another playtest? We have some Wilson Labs Shift prototype racquets available in both the 300 and 315 gram version. This playtest is open to USA Talk Tennis members only.

VERY IMPORTANT: Playtesters will be required to get their test racquet strung. Each racquet will be shipped with a set of Luxilon ALU Power and a Wilson multifilament string. Please note that we have one grip sizes available - grip size 3 (4 3/8).

Application period closed. Selected playtesters will be notified via email by Wednesday, March 1st.

We have a very limited quantity of racquets to playtest. We select playtesters based on a number of factors, including message board participation and performance on past playtests.

Your review is due by April 7th, 2023 by 5 pm PST.

Posting a full review by the deadline is necessary to remain in good standing for future playtests. Reviews lacking sufficient effort will resort in disqualification from the playtest program.

Include the following in your review:

String and tension used for test:
Tennis experience/background:
Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley):
Current racquet/string setups:
How many hours did you play with the racquet?

Comments on racquet performance for each stroke (each section should be 3-5 sentences minimum):
-Groundstrokes:
-Serves:
-Volleys:
-Serve returns:

Comments on racquet performance in each area (should be 2-3 sentences minimum)
Power/Control-
Top Spin/Slice-
Comfort-
Feel-
Maneuverability-
Stability-

General reaction/comments on overall performance:


Thanks,
TW Staff

We will delete “request sent” emails, but encourage a lively “pre-game” discussion on the racquets.
 
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Yamin

Hall of Fame
Wilson has been on a hot streak in regard to innovation, and I like the roll out of this "prototype". Forty five is the only recent tech I can think of that makes a significant and recognizable difference. I'm sure this will be a very well received racket.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
I'm interested in feedback for the 315 model - Will be very interesting to see how the 23.5mm beam & 68 stiffness jive with an 18x20 frame. My guess is that the lateral flex should make the racquet feel soft as long the player hits with spin.
 

StringStrungStrang

Professional
The specs are very interesting and another great looking (white) frame. I like the fact that it is somewhat HL and has a lower swingweight so you have some room to customize it.

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A_Instead

Legend
Gives me the 1st Profile vibe for some odd reason...
I always wanted one of those back in the day....but was a kid with no money..
 
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TennisHound

Legend
On the 315g
They’re a little quirky but Grish (Gladiators Tennis) does a pretty good review on the 315g.

I guess the purpose of the Shift is to have power (wide frame and higher RA) with control (muted Clash-inspired frame and dampening technology). Chris from TW felt it was a little too dampened. Michelle from TW was pleased even though it’s 18x20.

Serves are bad apparently, which is usually where larger headed 18x20 frames suffer - Speed Pro, 100p.
 
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taylor15

Hall of Fame
The 16x20 is the most interesting. Initially I was too
Intrigued by this stick, but that was before I realized they are two different frames, not one with two weight options. Love a 16x20
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
Serves are bad apparently, which is usually where lather headed 18x20 frames suffer - Speed Pro, 100p.
I don't know... I can smash flat and yet fairly precise bombs with the TT100P (the stiffer 2019 version, mind you), and it can hold it's own on slice/kick as well...
 

codonnell

Rookie
Frame looks fantastic! I’m curious as to how a 99 square inch would play closer to a 100 or 98 for the shift. Also the 16-20 string pattern and 67 flex is right in my comfort zone. More to look forward to for this frame :).
 

jdx2112

Hall of Fame
Attention Talk Tennis Members:

Are you ready for another playtest? We have some Wilson Labs Shift prototype racquets available in both the 300 and 315 gram version. This playtest is open to USA Talk Tennis members only.

VERY IMPORTANT: Playtesters will be required to get their test racquet strung. Each racquet will be shipped with a set of Luxilon ALU Power and a Wilson multifilament string. Please note that we have one grip sizes available - grip size 3 (4 3/8).

If you are interested in applying, please send an email to discussadmin@tennis-warehouse.com with the following information (please no extraneous comments):

Email Subject: Tennis Warehouse Wilson Shift Prototype Playtest

Full Name:
Shipping Address (one line):
Email:
Username:
Racquet (choice between 300 or 315):

We have a very limited quantity of racquets to playtest. We select playtesters based on a number of factors, including message board participation and performance on past playtests.

Your review is due by (check back soon!).

Posting a full review by the deadline is necessary to remain in good standing for future playtests. Reviews lacking sufficient effort will resort in disqualification from the playtest program.

Include the following in your review:

String and tension used for test:
Tennis experience/background:
Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley):
Current racquet/string setups:
How many hours did you play with the racquet?

Comments on racquet performance for each stroke (each section should be 3-5 sentences minimum):
-Groundstrokes:
-Serves:
-Volleys:
-Serve returns:

Comments on racquet performance in each area (should be 2-3 sentences minimum)
Power/Control-
Top Spin/Slice-
Comfort-
Feel-
Maneuverability-
Stability-

General reaction/comments on overall performance:


Thanks,
TW Staff

We will delete “request sent” emails, but encourage a lively “pre-game” discussion on the racquets.
Would love to but I pulled my hamstring two days ago.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
Just FYI, not that this carries any real weight, but Jonas from TennisNerd just pushed out an initial assessment to his Patreon members and in a nutshell, he was very taken by the 300 (and Nikki Roen with the 315). Said it's Wilson's best racquet release in a long time. Take that as you will, but at least appears to be a step in the right direction...
 

Ahlun

New User
Been very interested because of the 16x20 pattern. Only other ones most recently have been the vcore 95 and pure aero vs and neither have quite been the "it" stick for my game. Looking forward to see the feedback that comes for it!
 

Newby

Semi-Pro
Super curious about how the 300 plays. Is this Wilson’s first experiment with 16x20? I’ve only tried the Yonex VCORE 16x20 but really interested in seeing how this string pattern works in a non-Isometric head. Also noticed the throat is noticeably different from that of the Blade or the Pro Staff. Looks like it starts by the top of the grip with both beams really tightly spaced and then flares out in a dramatic curve further up the top (unlike the more traditional Y shape).
 

TennisHound

Legend
Just FYI, not that this carries any real weight, but Jonas from TennisNerd just pushed out an initial assessment to his Patreon members and in a nutshell, he was very taken by the 300 (and Nikki Roen with the 315). Said it's Wilson's best racquet release in a long time. Take that as you will, but at least appears to be a step in the right direction...
The reviews on both have been pretty positive, except for serving (315g).
 

SlowTiger

Professional
Been very interested because of the 16x20 pattern. Only other ones most recently have been the vcore 95 and pure aero vs and neither have quite been the "it" stick for my game. Looking forward to see the feedback that comes for it!

There seems to be more and more 16x20 racquets coming out. Feels like they are slowly replacing the 18x20 to adjust to a modern game
 

djkahn86

Rookie
315 looks promising. I’m using a 18x20 pro stock clash 98. Wonder how close the shift 315 would play consider they share technology.
 

Fintft

G.O.A.T.
I'd be mainly interested in the 300.
Are these the specs?

  • Category : Performance
  • String Pattern : 16/20
  • Length : 27in / 68.58cm
  • Weight : 10.6oz / 300g
  • Head size : 99in² / 638.71cm²
  • Balance point : 12.40in / 31.5cm / 9 pts HL
  • Beam Width : 23.5mm / 23.5mm / 23.5mm
  • Swingweight : 320
  • Stiffness (RDC index) : 68
I usually prefer a little higher SW around 335, like in my Blade Pro v8 16x18 (nothing that some tungsten at 3 and 9 wouldn't fix) and if you add an overgrip, a big Wilson dampner and a tape head guard the weight might increase a bit as well (regardless of tungsten) to at least 305g.
 

Thibb

New User
Super cool you are giving folks the opportunity to play test this racquet. I have heard a lot of great things about this racquet but would love to hear more about peoples thoughts on it!
 

StringStrungStrang

Professional
Per my previous post:


Main Take-Aways from Jonas & Nikki (nothing we don't already know):
- Jonas liked the 300, Nikki the 315
- Best when hit with a bit of swipe, less so purely flat
- Good blend of control/power/spin/stability
- No real weaknesses, as of yet anyways

Is it possible that this is something REALLY new in racquet tech?
The 16 x 20 (300) 18 x20 (315) both 6 pts HL, same stiffness, beam width, balance. Ordinarily I'd be concerned about the RA spec at 68 but I have a feeling this where the tech comes in to tame this...I hope. This racquet seems to check quite a lot of boxes for so many players. I wonder will people who regularly choose 16 x19 racquets be turned off by not having that as an option. I think nowadays especially, you have to be open minded when trying out new racquets and let the performance rather than your idea of specs determine your choices.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
I wonder will people who regularly choose 16 x19 racquets be turned off by not having that as an option.
I doubt it. I would think those who care enough about a string pattern to let it influence a buying decision are in the MASSIVE minority in terms of the total potential target market. The vast majority will key in on overall feel and performance, and stop there.
I think nowadays especially, you have to be open minded when trying out new racquets and let the performance rather than your idea of specs determine your choices.
100%. This includes one's idea of an ideal string pattern, or lack thereof.
 

Djinn

Rookie
315 looks promising. I’m using a 18x20 pro stock clash 98. Wonder how close the shift 315 would play consider they share technology.
Same, I'm currently using Gravity Pros and looking to find something more maneuverable. Curious to test this one out.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
Is it possible that this is something REALLY new in racquet tech?
The 16 x 20 (300) 18 x20 (315) both 6 pts HL, same stiffness, beam width, balance. Ordinarily I'd be concerned about the RA spec at 68 but I have a feeling this where the tech comes in to tame this...I hope. This racquet seems to check quite a lot of boxes for so many players. I wonder will people who regularly choose 16 x19 racquets be turned off by not having that as an option. I think nowadays especially, you have to be open minded when trying out new racquets and let the performance rather than your idea of specs determine your choices.

Multiple people have seemingly noted feeling the lateral flex and noticing the spin-pocketing when that happens. I cant imagine so many well known reviewers with good track records "faking it" because they were influenced by marketing.
 
I doubt it. I would think those who care enough about a string pattern to let it influence a buying decision are in the MASSIVE minority in terms of the total potential target market. The vast majority will key in on overall feel and performance, and stop there.

100%. This includes one's idea of an ideal string pattern, or lack thereof.
Problem with that is racquets of same pattern are too similar, if you don't like 18x20 you arent gonna like most 18x20 racquets they're too similar
 

A_Instead

Legend
Yeah..I saw some pics...it didn't look round. Not many round Head shapes nowadays..
The 1st gen Extreme was round..
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
Same, I'm currently using Gravity Pros and looking to find something more maneuverable. Curious to test this one out.

Its highly unlikely a thicker beam racquet would be more maneuverable (assuming they are at at the same spec)

Yeah..I saw some pics...it didn't look round. Not many round Head shapes nowadays..
The 1st gen Extreme was round..

Definitely not as round as the old Extremes

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It's a classic head shape - totally love it, and excited to see how the 300 plays relative to the 315, which felt great even with the higher swingweight than what I'm used to.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
Do the playtesters picked by TW get a choice as to how the racquet will be strung or will they be preselected?
 
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