Tennis Warehouse Playtest: Wilson Labs Shift Prototype

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Great read! Thank you! I agree that this is a very versatile frame in the right hands.

You tried 3 different string set up. Did the 1st two break or did you cut them? If you cut them, was it to try the other set ups or was it necessary? IME, it doesn't seem to be a string eating frame like the Clash v1 line but, after 7 hours of play, my strings aren't snapping back as much...although, this may be more to do with the 18*20 pattern vs a more open 16*19.

Thanks again!
@ngoster @Fighting phoenix

-i wanted to try different setups!, but mainly wanted to try different tensions!!
-a new frame is always hard to guess whats gonna work properly with it, what string and what tension
-my first setup was total shot in the dark, and i missed by a little
-i dont gel to well with multis, so i cut them out to try others, and correct the tension a bit more
-the FB poly i tried is pros.pro.KU-DE-TA, i wanted a WHITE copoly, matched the racquet well, played the best IMO at 40lbs
-i have more expensive polys and strings, but if i dont know the tension i like best on a racquet, i dont see a point in wasting good string, so i fall back on my test strings (pros pro/budget friendly color options)
-once i know what tension works best on a racquet, thats when i'll switch the racquet to the more expensive strings
-the 3rd setup was also all WHITE string combo, 1.30mm.head.syngut/1.20mm.pros.pro.concept(not good string, crap to be honest, but its one of the thinnest i had to use as a cross string)
-the 3rd setup was more for curiosity of the gut/poly combo hybrids people like a lot

-as you pointed out, this racquet is NOT a string eater, so gut, softer and/or thinner strings will/should work well!
 

jimmy8

Legend
My friend got a demo and let me use it. Amazing! My favorite racket I've ever played with. So maneuverable, but still stable. Very good spin, power, feel, comfort and control. I played with it for about 40 minutes. It had Wilson NXT 1.30 full bed. I don't know the tension. I played the 300 version. I hope they keep the cosmetic, it's not white, it's like a translucent bluish color over white, very good looking. It feels weird, it feels like a hard, smooth plastic to the touch, but the racket feels like a normal graphite racket when you play it. I think the new technology of bending laterally, but being stiff torsionally makes for great power and control at the same time - it has so much stability at such a light weight - you will be able to maneuver the racket so well and still have the stability of what a heavier racket has - Amazing! And it has so much control with a 99 head. I use a 95 sqin because I love the precision, but I have to suffer with a small sweet spot. With the Shift you get the precision of a 95 with the sweet spot of a 99 - Incredible! This is my new favorite racket. I will buy one in the future.
 

BBender716

Semi-Pro
My Wilson Shift (300g) Review

String and tension used for test: BHS7T, 47lbs
Tennis experience/background: 3.5/4.0 mostly got serious after college with lessons and then matches
Describe your playing style (i.e. serve & volley): aggressive baseliner + prefered singles player
Current racquet/string setups: Recently been rotating and looking for a new racquet, but recently moved from a Pure Aero to a Blade Pro v8 16x19
How many hours did you play with the racquet? So FAR, 2 hours -- will post additional updates as I continue to play

-Groundstrokes: 9/10
What I first noticed about this racquet is it had a decent amount of pop built into it. I started played short-ball to warm up and found it a bit difficult to control and was a bit apprehensive going into full-court play.

My fears quickly dissipated. What tames the pop in this frame is the ludicrous amount of spin I was able to generate with it. This is a racquet that definitely rewards low to high swingpath and brushing against the ball-- much like a Pure Aero but less like the BP. My forehand wasn't as consistently penetrating as with my Blade Pro, but it had far more topspin and kick on it. Where I was most surprised was with my OHBH. Even when I felt out of position or late to the ball, this frame was able to save me and hit a heavy enough ball to prevent easy put aways by my opponents. I did not anticipate this performing that well on that stroke.

Overall, I'd summarize the groundstrokes as definitely better than the Pure Aero (better control, not too overkill power/spin), and the completely opposite type of frame to the Blade Pro, which to me seemed to favor a more linear stroke.

-Serves: 8/10
I still need more time to have a session specifically dedicated to hitting 50 or so serves with it to really get a better feel, however, this is likely the weakest part of this frame so far (which isn't to say it's a poor serving stick by any means, the other parts were really just that good!).

I found that my kick and slice serves were easily generating good spin, however the racquet felt a little slower through the air without the added "umph" that you are rewarded with with the BP. It wasn't detrimental to my serve as I was still able to get good spin/kick on them, but couldn't push folks around with my big serve as much as I was used to. However, I think this might just take more practice with this to get it to jive. Will update.

-Volleys: 9/10
Volleys felt solid. I appreciated the unique combo of maneuverability and stability of this frame on volleys. Granted, whom I played with today weren't exactly lighting me up at net, I still felt like I was not getting pushed around at all. Despite being a 99in frame and with a slightly thicker beam, it was easy to move at net. I could direct with great control. Compared to the BP, it was slightly less stable (but still overall stable), and volleyed with slightly less putaway power, but made up for it with significantly better maneuverability. Overall, I think it outpunched its specs at the net.

-Serve returns 9/10:
Serve returns, like the volleys, were quite solid and similar in my thoughts. Quick and easy to move, did not get pushed around despite being 300g, and I felt in control of my returns. I still think I prefer my BP on returns since it feels that much more rock solid and provides easier depth of return, but I was definitely suprised again, but how solid this racquet felt on returns despite its low weight. There was certainly much better feel on this racquet compared to that of my Pure Aeros or PAVS for sure.

Comments on racquet performance in each area (should be 2-3 sentences minimum)
Power/Control- Very easy pop with this racquet. Rewards a low to high swing path to control the power, but the easy access to spin makes that a non-issue. Control was significantly better than my Pure Aero and on par with the BP.

Top Spin/Slice- I got several compliments from my coach when slicing my OHBH with this frame. It's a stroke I'm continuing to improve but either it just "clicked" today, or this racquet really helped impart additional biting spin/slice. The topspin on both wings was top notch and where this racquet really shines. It's arguably the most spin-friendly frame I've played with, even compared with the Pure Aero (2023).

Comfort-I did not experience any discomfort using this frame. Contact felt solid with the ball and I did not experience any kind of weird vibrations/pain-- and I play without a dampener and with a full bed of relatively stiff poly.

Feel- This is the truly interesting part of this racquet. For as "spinny" and pop-filled as this racquet is, it feels like a much softer frame. I've played with a Clash 98 and this feels not AS "clashy", but very much like a Clash meets a PAVS. I know that's a weird description, but I really enjoyed how I got the benefits of a spin-oriented frame without having a hollow/tinny babolat feel to it. It just felt plush-- not as plush as the BP, but definitely closer to a Clash than to a Babolat.

Maneuverability- As I mentioned in volley and service returns, it was super easy to move it quickly through the air. The only area where I felt maneurverability suffered was during serves, which again may just be me needing more time to gel with it and figure out how this stick serves best.

Stability-For a light frame it felt surprisingly stable. More stable than my PAVS and PA, and less stable than my BP (which is a hammer). This, along with feel / comfort, was the second biggest surprise to me with this frame.

General reaction/comments on overall performance:
Overall, I will contine to play more with this frame to see if it can supplant the BP in my bag. They are two VERY different frames, but this one is definitely making me want to sell my PA98 because I know it's the same kind of frame and this one just does everything better, hands down. Super interested in seeing how my impressions of this frame continue to evolve as I get more time with it.
Hit with it again last night and I definitely can confirm that my shots just seem to "dip" in if I adequately go low to high and swing out. It was amazing the consistency I had with my groundstrokes.

Volleys I still found somewhat to be desired. Less free power and stability but not horrible, better than the Babolats I had.

Return of serve was SOLID. Like the other reviewer said, I was actually looking forward to ROS with this racquet. I returned easily with depth and control.

Still need to perfect my serve with this racquet. Spin / kick is more than adequate but have a harder time generating the same pace and "feeling" my racquet moving across the ball.

Overall still very very intrigued by this racquet and it's arguably top 2 in my racquetholic inventory.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
Not a playtester, but I have been using the Shift 300g for a couple of weeks. Since I was free to modify mine, I put 4g of tungsten tape at 12. The TW customizing tool recommended 6g to hit closer to my usual specs, but that sounded like too much to start. I have it strung with Kirschbaum Max Power Rough (similar to Alu Power Rough) and Dunlop Iconic All (similar to NXT) in the mains and crosses respectively at 52. Currently I'm at a 327g strung weight (302g unstrung), 7 pt HL, 314 SW. As a point of comparison, recently I have been playing mostly 100" frames (FX 500, Prince Vortex 310g) with swingweights in the 322-328 range and 305g to 310g unstrung.

The stand-out feature of the frame so far is the feel. It is a bit muted, especially with the soft string I am running in the crosses. But it does have a strong feeling of pocketing the ball when swinging fast and imparting spin, while feeling stiffer and more powerful when blocking or otherwise hitting the ball flatter. If I had to guess the RA without knowing anything else about the special flex design, I would say it feels like 61-63 on my groundstrokes. The stability is pretty good for the light weight, but it's not quite as stable as my usual frames. Compared to my usual, this racquet feels faster but less stable / forgiving, especially at the net. Up there, it gets the job done but it doesn't have great feel or stability so I'd say that's the weakest area of performance versus my other frames.

Although I have the 16x20 string pattern in mine rather than the 18x20 of the heavier version, I do find the launch angle to be lower than most of my other racquets. That's probably because of the extra cross string and the fact that has 8 main strings coming up the throat area rather than the 6 strings of a more open 16x19. It does play spin-friendly, but I wouldn't call it a spin monster. If you like to hit with good topspin margin and some aggressive slice then it's a good frame, but if you like to build points around Nadal-like topspin bombs then there are better choices out there. Topspin players like me need to find the right tradeoff between net clearance and spin level to avoid accidentally dipping the ball short, but it's not a difficult adjustment.

I definitely like serving with this frame. It's easy to swing, but has just enough mass at the tip to come solidly through contact. The fact that it plays stiffer on flat swings means that it can hit a powerful flat serve, while also getting very good bite on spin serves. On the flip side of returns, it's very versatile. Blocked returns feel solid and have good energy return, and there's pocketing and feel available for bigger swings. The only downside is the slight lack of stability off-center; mishit returns are almost always going to be very weak.

In terms of comparable frames I've played recently, the first that pops into my head is the Prince ATS Tour 98. The Shift definitely has a more power and a bigger sweet spot, but the feel and behavior off the stringbed seems similar. It has been a couple years since I last tried a Head Speed MP, but I think there could be some similarities there as well with the power level and thick-but-flexible design. If I recall, the Speed MP was a bit more spin oriented.

Overall I think this is a great all-around frame with a nice blend of power, feel, spin, and control. The clever flex design lets it perform well for both flat and spin-oriented swing styles. The only players I would see NOT enjoying it are max-spin, Pure Aero type players, net rushers, and players looking for old-school feel, touch, and control. It's not outstanding in any one area but should suit a wide audience.
 

Mischko

Professional
But is it even possible to have 314sw strung with 4g at 12? That means without lead it's around 300sw strung, that's waay too low no?
 

Mischko

Professional
Yeah I read that. And bought one at TWE but with matching service, hopefully there'll be a more head heavy one for me, but reading this now I've my doubts about getting a heavier one even with matching..
 

ulunxtns

Semi-Pro
Yeah I read that. And bought one at TWE but with matching service, hopefully there'll be a more head heavy one for me, but reading this now I've my doubts about getting a heavier one even with matching..
I bought it from TW with MRT service, I got one on specs.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
But is it even possible to have 314sw strung with 4g at 12? That means without lead it's around 300sw strung, that's waay too low no?

A lot of 300 came with low unstrung SW. Shift 300s in my local shop are around 270s unstrung SW.

Mine was 270 unstrung and unmodified. The weight was almost perfect at 299g, but it was a whopping 11pt HL, a spec you‘d usually see on a 315+ gram frame.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
AC Tennis (@ACT), arguably the greatest racquet review channel on YouTube, reviews the Shift 315:


Key Take-Aways:
- Feel: Middle ground of direct/damp/semi-firm; can be manipulated with strings and customization
- Power: Less than EZ98, 305 ISO, Blade Pro, Gravity Pro; similar to a spec'd up Extreme Tour; more than than a Radical Pro or Speed Pro. Need good RHS to access top-end power.
- Maneuverability: Mediocre in stock form, most should look for under-spec frames, and/or handle-weight it; leather grip improved things greatly
- Control: Comprehensive - good manipulation level over depth, spin, power and launch angle.
- Spin: Similar to ISO 305 with good spin despite denser pattern; similar or slightly less than Extreme Tour; consistency of spin control.
- Serving: Stock form was OK; more handle weight was better; longer-than-normal adaptation time.
- Slice: Outstanding, better slices with less focused effort than needed with other frames. The best he's tried in a while.
- Forgiveness: Variable, per string material and tension. With full poly in the upper 40's-50-ish, it's direct, targeted and sweet spot is concentrated and precise. In the mid 40's and lower, everything opens up.
- Stability: Decent to good when on-spec in stock form. With leather grip, it significantly improves, more stable than ISO 305, putting it into Blade Pro, RF97 territory.
- Volleys: Effortless, stable, no excessive give, easy punch, still good touch.
- Who Is This For? Someone with good strength and fitness, who enjoys the likes of a weighted up Extreme Tour, or similar, otherwise, an over-spec'd Shift 300 may be a better fit.
- Overall: Longer-than-normal adjustment time, top-notch performer with leather grip, prefers it to the Blade Pro for a spin player who hits flatter, but prefers the BP for a flatter hitter outright.
 
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ACT

New User
AC Tennis (@ACT), arguably the greatest racquet review channel on YouTube, reviews the Shift 315:


Key Take-Aways:
- Feel: Middle ground of direct/damp/semi-firm; can be manipulated with strings and customization
- Power: Less than EZ98, 305 ISO, Blade Pro, Gravity Pro; similar to a spec'd up Extreme Tour; more than than a Radical Pro or Speed Pro. Need good RHS to access top-end power.
- Maneuverability: Mediocre in stock form, most should look for under-spec frames, and/or handle-weight it; leather grip improved things greatly
- Control: Comprehensive - good manipulation level over depth, spin, power and launch angle.
- Spin: Similar to ISO 305 with good spin despite denser pattern; similar or slightly less than Extreme Tour; consistency of spin control.
- Serving: Stock form was OK; more handle weight was better; longer-than-normal adaptation time.
- Slice: Outstanding, better slices with less focused effort than needed with other frames. The best he's tried in a while.
- Forgiveness: Variable, per string material and tension. With full poly in the upper 40's-50-ish, it's direct, targeted and sweet spot is concentrated and precise. In the mid 40's and lower, everything opens up.
- Stability: Decent to good when on-spec in stock form. With leather grip, it significantly improves, more stable than ISO 305, putting it into Blade Pro, RF97 territory.
- Volleys: Effortless, stable, no give, easy punch, still good touch.
- Who Is This For? Someone with good strength and fitness, who enjoys the likes of a weighted up Extreme Tour, or similar, otherwise, an over-spec'd Shift 300 may be a better fit.
- Overall: Longer-than-normal adjustment time, top-notch performer with leather grip, prefers it to the Blade Pro for a spin player who hits flatter, but prefers the BP for a flatter hitter outright.
Should just get you to write my reviews, it would save 20 minutes of video time, and 30 hours of editing
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
Should just get you to write my reviews, it would save 20 minutes of video time, and 30 hours of editing
Flattered! But I think all of us would agree there's no substitute for your video reviews! They're so far above and beyond the retailers, pro players and other review channels, that I would hope they see your content as a call to action to level up their work! Really top-notch stuff!
 

Blade_X

Semi-Pro
AC Tennis (@ACT), arguably the greatest racquet review channel on YouTube, reviews the Shift 315:


Key Take-Aways:
- Feel: Middle ground of direct/damp/semi-firm; can be manipulated with strings and customization
- Power: Less than EZ98, 305 ISO, Blade Pro, Gravity Pro; similar to a spec'd up Extreme Tour; more than than a Radical Pro or Speed Pro. Need good RHS to access top-end power.
- Maneuverability: Mediocre in stock form, most should look for under-spec frames, and/or handle-weight it; leather grip improved things greatly
- Control: Comprehensive - good manipulation level over depth, spin, power and launch angle.
- Spin: Similar to ISO 305 with good spin despite denser pattern; similar or slightly less than Extreme Tour; consistency of spin control.
- Serving: Stock form was OK; more handle weight was better; longer-than-normal adaptation time.
- Slice: Outstanding, better slices with less focused effort than needed with other frames. The best he's tried in a while.
- Forgiveness: Variable, per string material and tension. With full poly in the upper 40's-50-ish, it's direct, targeted and sweet spot is concentrated and precise. In the mid 40's and lower, everything opens up.
- Stability: Decent to good when on-spec in stock form. With leather grip, it significantly improves, more stable than ISO 305, putting it into Blade Pro, RF97 territory.
- Volleys: Effortless, stable, no excessive give, easy punch, still good touch.
- Who Is This For? Someone with good strength and fitness, who enjoys the likes of a weighted up Extreme Tour, or similar, otherwise, an over-spec'd Shift 300 may be a better fit.
- Overall: Longer-than-normal adjustment time, top-notch performer with leather grip, prefers it to the Blade Pro for a spin player who hits flatter, but prefers the BP for a flatter hitter outright.
As always AC tennis never disappoints. My favourite reviewer by far! We need more content from him :)
 

Blade_X

Semi-Pro
Indeed. Flat out review domination. I mean, they're so superior, it's almost laughable.
The way he breaks down every racquet parameter, also revisiting with different strings and playing with mods/lead is unmatched and on another level. Also to add his unbiased way of stating facts…. a class act! Such a great format….. 20 minutes of reviewing without a "single second" to get bored.

AC Tennis, tennis family, tennis taste and team tennis France the big 4!
 
Question re my 315 Shift - Wilson's website says that they recommend 4G for this racquet, and I happen to have a set of 4G soft lying around. I'm experimenting with different strings in this racquet, and so far have tried alu power, alu power soft, and head Lynx tour, all around 48 lbs at 1.25g. So far I loved the alu power & soft, but only lasted about 6 hours before major tension dropoff, and lynx tour so far feels crisp and great. Any thoughts on whether 4G soft might be a good fit for this racquet (reg 4G would be way to stiff for me and my somewhat sensitive arm).
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
@Fighting phoenix - Short of someone chiming in who's actually played 4GS in the 315, going off of your preferences, I think 4GS would be play pretty well around 46 or 47 pounds -- a notch below Alu Power 1.25, as USRSA stiffness of Alu Power 1.25 is 242, Alu Power Soft is 185 and 4G Soft is 214. Hope that helps.
 

A_Instead

Legend
So far so good for me so far.. no pain anywhere..with decent results..
This weekend I plan to put together all my notes and begin my write up..
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
AC Tennis (@ACT), arguably the greatest racquet review channel on YouTube, reviews the Shift 315:


Key Take-Aways:
- Feel: Middle ground of direct/damp/semi-firm; can be manipulated with strings and customization
- Power: Less than EZ98, 305 ISO, Blade Pro, Gravity Pro; similar to a spec'd up Extreme Tour; more than than a Radical Pro or Speed Pro. Need good RHS to access top-end power.
- Maneuverability: Mediocre in stock form, most should look for under-spec frames, and/or handle-weight it; leather grip improved things greatly
- Control: Comprehensive - good manipulation level over depth, spin, power and launch angle.
- Spin: Similar to ISO 305 with good spin despite denser pattern; similar or slightly less than Extreme Tour; consistency of spin control.
- Serving: Stock form was OK; more handle weight was better; longer-than-normal adaptation time.
- Slice: Outstanding, better slices with less focused effort than needed with other frames. The best he's tried in a while.
- Forgiveness: Variable, per string material and tension. With full poly in the upper 40's-50-ish, it's direct, targeted and sweet spot is concentrated and precise. In the mid 40's and lower, everything opens up.
- Stability: Decent to good when on-spec in stock form. With leather grip, it significantly improves, more stable than ISO 305, putting it into Blade Pro, RF97 territory.
- Volleys: Effortless, stable, no excessive give, easy punch, still good touch.
- Who Is This For? Someone with good strength and fitness, who enjoys the likes of a weighted up Extreme Tour, or similar, otherwise, an over-spec'd Shift 300 may be a better fit.
- Overall: Longer-than-normal adjustment time, top-notch performer with leather grip, prefers it to the Blade Pro for a spin player who hits flatter, but prefers the BP for a flatter hitter outright.
It’s hard to disagree with anything ACT says but I would put the Shift 315 with more power than my 4xBlade Pros v8 guise. Agree with all else except I’ve not broken through on serve yet. It’s still ‘meh’ but I’ll keep trying to find the magic.

- after watching the full review, I’m thinking I need to slap a leather grip on this thing. Been a while since I’ve wanted to do that to a racket.
 
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Soundbyte

Hall of Fame
It’s hard to disagree with anything ACT says but I would put the Shift 315 with more power than my 4xBlade Pros v8 guise. Agree with all else except I’ve not broken through on serve yet. It’s still ‘meh’ but I’ll keep trying to find the magic.
I actually agree with ACT here...I think the Blade Pro is touch more powerful than the Shift 315.
All things considered, it's a great frame. I'm likely switching. But I have a Elevate V3, Blade Pro, 2x Shift 315s, FX500, and PT2.0 in my bag....so I can pull any of these frames out and feel great.
 
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tim-ay

Hall of Fame
I actually agree with ACT here...I think the Blade Pro is touch more powerful than the Shift 315.
All things considered, it's a great frame. I'm likely switching. But I have an Elevate V3, Blade Pro, 2x Shift 315s, and PT2.0 in my bag....so I can pull any of these frames out and feel great.
His point on spec differences is spot on. And maybe why I have a different perception. I used Durafluxx 123 at 46 , which is what I use in the BPs (same string, same tension… just frame difference)
 
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BBender716

Semi-Pro
I actually agree with ACT here...I think the Blade Pro is touch more powerful than the Shift 315.
All things considered, it's a great frame. I'm likely switching. But I have a Elevate V3, Blade Pro, 2x Shift 315s, FX500, and PT2.0 in my bag....so I can pull any of these frames out and feel great.
This makes me want to see if I like the 315 better than the 300 I'm playtesting since I do still love my BP so much...
 

Soundbyte

Hall of Fame
This makes me want to see if I like the 315 better than the 300 I'm playtesting since I do still love my BP so much...
Just hearing about the swing weight on the 300s makes me think that frame would need quite a bit of lead to make it useable (for me at least)
 
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Yeah - I went the route of getting two under-spec 315s...perfection for me - 328 swingweight, great balance and plow through, still have easy access to spin even in the 18x20.
 

ressling

New User
Agree about the comparison to the BP. I've actually owned the Shift 315 longer than my BP v8 18x20 but having exclusively played with my BP now for longer than the 315 Shift, I don't really find myself wanting to go back to the Shift.

I am glad I got the 315 vs the 300 though; I had a feeling it was going to be the better of the two offerings.
 

BBender716

Semi-Pro
Just hearing about the swing weight on the 300s makes me think that frame would need quite a bit of lead to make it useable (for me at least)
I don't feel mine is particularly light. I'll measure swingweight next week and report back, though I'll be measuring it strung.
 

kblades

Rookie
I've been following along all the reviews and videos. Obviously Wilson QC (or lack thereof) taken into account, but still the consensus seems to be people are prefering either overspec'd on the 16x20's, or underspec on the 18x20's. I want to try this frame, just been on the fence whether to go with the 16x20 or 18x20. It will be interesting to see if that's been consistent feedback that's been shared with them through this prototype process and whether or not they factor it into the retail versions this summer (ie bump the 16x20 up to 305g and/or bring the 18x20 down the 310g).
 

ulunxtns

Semi-Pro
I've been following along all the reviews and videos. Obviously Wilson QC (or lack thereof) taken into account, but still the consensus seems to be people are prefering either overspec'd on the 16x20's, or underspec on the 18x20's. I want to try this frame, just been on the fence whether to go with the 16x20 or 18x20. It will be interesting to see if that's been consistent feedback that's been shared with them through this prototype process and whether or not they factor it into the retail versions this summer (ie bump the 16x20 up to 305g and/or bring the 18x20 down the 310g).

I feel the same, they won’t change the current models, but probably will offer the third option, 305, 18x19, like iso 305. That would be a great addition imo.
 
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Soundbyte

Hall of Fame
I feel the same, they won’t change the current model, but probably will offer the third option, 305, 18x19, like iso 305. That would be an great option imo.
I doubt they change anything but the cosmetic. Maybe increase the 300 swing weight a bit. But more than likely I doubt any spec will change
 

A_Instead

Legend
Team..
For those who have tried either version of the Shift...and have used many other rackets.. are you seeing the Shift truly resembling and other racket?
I can't really think of anything..I am thinking that Wilson has did it again by introducing another unique racket..
 

Holic

Rookie
Playtested the 300 with strung sw 303(strung it with confidential 16g), went for 4g at 3-9 and some lead to 12 to reach 325 with dampener. It reminded of pure strike 2nd gen, so much controllable power, I mean the power levels were off the charts, especially for the flat serve, and yet i could control it with the supreme spin potential if offers. Kick serve was pure aero level, and flat serve was like a power boosted rad mp. With forehands i could go flat with amazing power and they would never fly on me. With spinny forehands the launch angle was above average something like ps 2nd gen or pavs. Will post more, after i try it further.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Team..
For those who have tried either version of the Shift...and have used many other rackets.. are you seeing the Shift truly resembling and other racket?
I can't really think of anything..I am thinking that Wilson has did it again by introducing another unique racket..
-its def. unique
-i felt like the BEST features of the racquets showed up when you needed them!
-it gave great control on volleys
-it gave good power on defensive shots from the baseline
-it softened up and/or became less powerful on baseline exchanges
-and it maintained good2decent spin, for a "18/20" frame!
 
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Soundbyte

Hall of Fame
Team..
For those who have tried either version of the Shift...and have used many other rackets.. are you seeing the Shift truly resembling and other racket?
I can't really think of anything..I am thinking that Wilson has did it again by introducing another unique racket..
315 feels like a blend of the blade Pro and Pure Aero/PA98 to me....if I had to compare it to other frames
 

zykoniko

New User
Playtested the 300 with strung sw 303(strung it with confidential 16g), went for 4g at 3-9 and some lead to 12 to reach 325 with dampener. It reminded of pure strike 2nd gen, so much controllable power, I mean the power levels were off the charts, especially for the flat serve, and yet i could control it with the supreme spin potential if offers. Kick serve was pure aero level, and flat serve was like a power boosted rad mp. With forehands i could go flat with amazing power and they would never fly on me. With spinny forehands the launch angle was above average something like ps 2nd gen or pavs. Will post more, after i try it further.
With how much lb do you string your shift? thanks
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
Feedback seems all over the place on whether the 300 is good or bad for flatter hitting. Can someone with a gift for the English language please explain exactly what we're dealing with here? Thanks in advance.
 

zykoniko

New User
I used measuring service! Which 2 rackets will you chose? i think number 4 and 7?

Weight Swingweight Balance
1) 303.6g 283.5 31.3cm

2) 303.1g 269 30.85cm

3) 305.1g 283.5 31.3cm

4) 300.8g 277 31.3cm

5) 304.3g 274.5 31.15cm

6) 303g 271.5 30.9cm

7) 301.2g 277.5 31.35cm

8) 300.8g 269.5 31cm

9) 300.6g 274 31.15cm

10) 303.1g 279 31.1cm

Swingweight is very low and i measured 10 ! Shift 300 !!! So why tw measured 320 SW strung?

I think i will chose nr.4 and 7 and will put 4 g lead on 12 oclock.
I will string it with Adrenaline at 50 pounds.

whats do you think? thanks
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
@zykoniko - For me personally, those swing weight numbers are already extremely low, so I'd probably go with #1 and #3, as I'd prefer as much extra beef as possible right from the start, and we're also hearing from most early reviews that a "higher spec" 300 (or lower-spec 315) is ideal in most people's eyes.

That being said, if those numbers are indicative of the global population, then #4 and #7 might not be a bad idea, for if you ever wanted to add more to your quiver, it might end up being easier to find that more "middle ground" spec from amongst the remaining herd.

Either way, gotta love (or hate?) Wilson for making it interesting!
 
I used measuring service! Which 2 rackets will you chose? i think number 4 and 7?

Weight Swingweight Balance
1) 303.6g 283.5 31.3cm

2) 303.1g 269 30.85cm

3) 305.1g 283.5 31.3cm

4) 300.8g 277 31.3cm

5) 304.3g 274.5 31.15cm

6) 303g 271.5 30.9cm

7) 301.2g 277.5 31.35cm

8) 300.8g 269.5 31cm

9) 300.6g 274 31.15cm

10) 303.1g 279 31.1cm

Swingweight is very low and i measured 10 ! Shift 300 !!! So why tw measured 320 SW strung?

I think i will chose nr.4 and 7 and will put 4 g lead on 12 oclock.
I will string it with Adrenaline at 50 pounds.

whats do you think? thanks
Thx for the info! It is really strange that their posted avg swingweight is 320 strung, when this sample of ten racquets is more in the 305 range based on unstrung measurements. (Plus anecdotally many reviewers and our own experiences show 305 strung to be fairly common)
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I used measuring service! Which 2 rackets will you chose? i think number 4 and 7?

Weight Swingweight Balance
1) 303.6g 283.5 31.3cm

2) 303.1g 269 30.85cm

3) 305.1g 283.5 31.3cm

4) 300.8g 277 31.3cm

5) 304.3g 274.5 31.15cm

6) 303g 271.5 30.9cm

7) 301.2g 277.5 31.35cm

8) 300.8g 269.5 31cm

9) 300.6g 274 31.15cm

10) 303.1g 279 31.1cm

Swingweight is very low and i measured 10 ! Shift 300 !!! So why tw measured 320 SW strung?

I think i will chose nr.4 and 7 and will put 4 g lead on 12 oclock.
I will string it with Adrenaline at 50 pounds.

whats do you think? thanks
1 and 3. Add a full bed of 1.25 poly and that adds approximately 30 points of SW taking it to ~314 so still leaves some room to add weight without having to use up an entire reel of lead to make it playable.
 

A_Instead

Legend
Shift 300 sits between the PA and PD with a Wilson feel... Slight notes of Clash.. but in a performance package..

It's not a PA nor PD... Just similar type of racket..
 
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