Tennis Warehouse Playtest: Wilson RF 01 Family

can anyone suggest a full bed polyester frame single or hybrid that will be comfortable for RF01 Pro? I have used Alu Power 21/19 kg and shredded my hand...
I will be getting Champions Choice soon but until then i would like to try full polyester options in order to determine whether the racket stiffness prohibits me from playing with this specific racket in the future. Thanks.
 
can anyone suggest a full bed polyester frame single or hybrid that will be comfortable for RF01 Pro? I have used Alu Power 21/19 kg and shredded my hand...
I will be getting Champions Choice soon but until then i would like to try full polyester options in order to determine whether the racket stiffness prohibits me from playing with this specific racket in the future. Thanks.
You can try Restring Sync! it feels really nice, at lower tension on the the rf it opens up really nicely, ball pocketing is really felt.
 
You can try Restring Sync! it feels really nice, at lower tension on the the rf it opens up really nicely, ball pocketing is really felt.
dont have access to this string atm but what would u suggest as lower tension with a soft polyester? under 20 kg?
 
Toro Toro worked well in the RF01 Pro. I think I strung mine at 50 lbs. If you’re trying to improve comfort, swapping out the leather grip for a synthetic grip helps as well.
 
can anyone suggest a full bed polyester frame single or hybrid that will be comfortable for RF01 Pro? I have used Alu Power 21/19 kg and shredded my hand...
I will be getting Champions Choice soon but until then i would like to try full polyester options in order to determine whether the racket stiffness prohibits me from playing with this specific racket in the future. Thanks.
tcs is very soft but loses tension fast
 
Toro Toro worked well in the RF01 Pro. I think I strung mine at 50 lbs. If you’re trying to improve comfort, swapping out the leather grip for a synthetic grip helps as well.
Do you know the weight of the leather grip on the pro? Was the synthetic grip lower in weight and how much? I am tempted to switch but do not want to change weight..!
 
A picture is worth 1000 words !!! Wilson RF01 Playtest !!

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Your racquet will play better with 4G in the mains and Alu Power in the x's .. strung @ 48lbs. Try it.
 
i put Hyper G Soft 20kg and its totally trash still feels like board... the only option for this racket i think is Champions choice.. However i put around 4 grams of lead on 3&9 all the way to 2&10 and another 4 on the handle and it augmented quite a lot the sweet spot.. however its like 355g now strung and swingweight without lead was like 330 so now its close to 340 i guess.. no idea about the balance must be close to 33 since i had an initial factory balance of around 32.5 compared to the spec of 31.5
 
i hear a lot of people talking about Volkl strings but all the stats i have seen indicate very high tension losses..
 
Not if strung properly..
Most polys that I use loose no more than 2 lbs after use after initial stringing..

With any string.. if tension loss is a concern.. string higher.. pre stretch, etc..
 
Which strings are those?
I think natty gut holds the best. Some polys are terrible holding tension even before you hit a ball with them..ie just sitting overnight. 4G holds tension nicely (stiff and pretty low power) for a poly. Head Velocity for a multi. Tension loss is usually stated in %. Lbs or Kgs would not be as accurate.
 
I think natty gut holds the best. Some polys are terrible holding tension even before you hit a ball with them..ie just sitting overnight. 4G holds tension nicely (stiff and pretty low power) for a poly. Head Velocity for a multi. Tension loss is usually stated in %. Lbs or Kgs would not be as accurate.

Agreed about natural gut being good at tension maintenance, but the premise was that most polys the poster used drop no more than two pounds. I’ve tried the polys that were among the best in tension maintenance, that being 1.30 Silver 7 Tour, and it drops at least 2 pounds sitting overnight, and I always do a light prestretch on all strings to remove coil memory before stringing. The only way I can imagine any poly string not losing tension is to literally prestretch all of the elasticity out of it, like by pulling 80 pounds and letting it sit for a minute before pulling reference tension.

I’m using Confidential which is among the better poly strings in terms of tension maintenance and I experience about a 14% drop from off the stringer to breaking, and that’s with doing a light prestretch. If I remember correctly, 1.30 S7T was in the 11-12% loss range, both of those according to RacquetTune.
 
After a month of staying away from the RF01Pro, today I decided to give it another shot. I'm happy to say I had much more success this time, winning 6-0, 6-1. I felt confident placing the ball where I wanted, swinging at full speed, and sending it over the net with plenty of pace. It's as if my mind processed all the feedback from my first experience with the racquet—hit in the center, flatter trajectories, etc.—internalized it, and now applied that learning without me having to make a conscious effort.

The only area where I still struggled was my first serve—either hitting too close to the tip and losing power or hitting in the center and having the ball sail long outside the service box. Occasionally, some first serves went in with pace, but I wouldn't call that serving with confidence just yet. Let's just put first serves in the 'user needs more practice' bucket for now.
 
I hit with it a week later. It is noticeably more powerful than my H19, very similar to my Ezone that was also strung gut/poly. I could easily adapt to this frame. As I think I said before, it's very easy to see the logical progression of all the frames he played with up until this one. Great frame!
 
Element, Tour bite soft
I removed the Leather Grip, added some lead on 3&9 and put Element 1.25 on RF01Pro. Playability, comfort and sweet spot improved massively.
However, Element feels quite launch and I have trouble generating topspin in some shots with it compared to other strings.
The racket tho during the 1st setup i tried with lead and leather around 355g static and with the 2nd one 345g static and 340 swingweight performs amazing in terms of aerodynamics. Cuts through the air very fast and u dont actually feel that much these hefty statics and swingweights.. compared to lets say my other racket that is Head Speed MP Legend with the same setup leather+lead albeit Lynx Tour on it 340g static and 336sw that is much more sluggish..
 
I removed the Leather Grip, added some lead on 3&9 and put Element 1.25 on RF01Pro. Playability, comfort and sweet spot improved massively.
However, Element feels quite launch and I have trouble generating topspin in some shots with it compared to other strings.
The racket tho during the 1st setup i tried with lead and leather around 355g static and with the 2nd one 345g static and 340 swingweight performs amazing in terms of aerodynamics. Cuts through the air very fast and u dont actually feel that much these hefty statics and swingweights.. compared to lets say my other racket that is Head Speed MP Legend with the same setup leather+lead albeit Lynx Tour on it 340g static and 336sw that is much more sluggish..
What do you think the lead did? Just broaden the sweet spot? I put a bunch of lead at the tip to match my H19 and it played horribly. Took it off, right back to my initial impression. I also played the Pro model, it's just not for me.
 
What do you think the lead did? Just broaden the sweet spot? I put a bunch of lead at the tip to match my H19 and it played horribly. Took it off, right back to my initial impression. I also played the Pro model, it's just not for me.
i felt like it massively improved the sweet spot and increased even more the twistweight and the feeling on off center shots.
I even put some on 12 and got even better.. but the swingweight is around 345 with these customizations and static around 350g..

I removed the leather grip i cant play this racket with the leather it crushes my hand for some reason.

However, the best feeling i got was when i tried Luxilon Element 18kg , no leather and lead. The racket went alive but not the best spin with this string..

Lately, i tried it with Champions Choice finally around 23/21.5kg but i dont like it feels boardy again after the first session. Personally, i think this racket benefits more from a low tension around 17-19 kg at most..
 
I see a lot of negative reviews from people that played a couple of hours or less with it. This racquet requires a considerable adjustment period, but the results are worth it. The initial negative impressions stem from the fact that it plays differently from others, for instance the ProStaff. However, if you take the time to understand its quirks and strengths, you'll be rewarded with a great blend of power, spin, and control. After spending a few months with it, I've come to realize it's an excellent racquet. I can confidently rip the felt off the balls while keeping them in-court, hit fast-moving winners, and defend against heavy hitters. Additionally, it dampens vibrations quite well, providing zero discomfort throughout play.

The Pro version in stock form performs nicely with a low-powered poly, strung at low tension to maximize the sweet spot.
 
I see a lot of negative reviews from people that played a couple of hours or less with it. This racquet requires a considerable adjustment period, but the results are worth it. The initial negative impressions stem from the fact that it plays differently from others, for instance the ProStaff. However, if you take the time to understand its quirks and strengths, you'll be rewarded with a great blend of power, spin, and control. After spending a few months with it, I've come to realize it's an excellent racquet. I can confidently rip the felt off the balls while keeping them in-court, hit fast-moving winners, and defend against heavy hitters. Additionally, it dampens vibrations quite well, providing zero discomfort throughout play.

The Pro version in stock form performs nicely with a low-powered poly, strung at low tension to maximize the sweet spot.
could u care to elaborate on potential polys to use along with respective tensions? also what about lead placement and where? is your experience with the leather grip on or off?
 
could u care to elaborate on potential polys to use along with respective tensions? also what about lead placement and where? is your experience with the leather grip on or off?
Strings are very relative and different people like different strings and tensions. Here is a thread with some strings and tensions to try: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/best-poly-in-the-low-40-lbs.737674/

No customizations yet, but if I were to add lead, I would put a few grams at 12 to raise the sweet spot.

I kept the leather grip on - I prefer headlight balance in heavier frames.
 
I see a lot of negative reviews from people that played a couple of hours or less with it. This racquet requires a considerable adjustment period, but the results are worth it. The initial negative impressions stem from the fact that it plays differently from others, for instance the ProStaff. However, if you take the time to understand its quirks and strengths, you'll be rewarded with a great blend of power, spin, and control. After spending a few months with it, I've come to realize it's an excellent racquet. I can confidently rip the felt off the balls while keeping them in-court, hit fast-moving winners, and defend against heavy hitters. Additionally, it dampens vibrations quite well, providing zero discomfort throughout play.

The Pro version in stock form performs nicely with a low-powered poly, strung at low tension to maximize the sweet spot.
I agree with this. Used the rf97 for a long time and switched to a blade pro 16x19. The rf01 pro is a great stick. A little lower sw so I am getting good angles but still a heap of plow through and spin
 
Has someone tried the RF 01/Pro against the Aero 98? Apart from more spin for the Aero and probably much better feel on the RF how do other characteristics compare?
 
Aero has weight at the top, and feels hollow through the middle, Wilsons have a light tip and feel weighty and stable through the middle. Pro has a lot of power, Aero is below that, and RF 01 below the Aero

All 3 are demanding, for advanced players

Aero 98 will suit spin players who play amore grinding and defensive style, Wilsons are attack only but versatile

Aero is for spinny play but still OK on flat shots, RF 01 for flat play, Pro is versatile, good for both
 
Has someone tried the RF 01/Pro against the Aero 98? Apart from more spin for the Aero and probably much better feel on the RF how do other characteristics compare?
Yes. I was on the play test for the RF01 pro and I mained the PA98 for almost a year. The PA98 has better maneuverability, spin, and honestly a bit better feel from the baseline. The RF pro has better feel for me at the net, but it weirdly feels more disconnected on groundstrokes. The power felt roughly equal between the two. The launch angle is higher on the PA98 than the RF pro. Control is another mixed bag for me due to the string spacing on the RF pro. Groundstrokes feel a little more predictable on the PA98 because the RF pro's string spacing really seems to affect the ball if you hit outside of it's extremely small sweet spot. Is there a characteristics in particular that you wanted to hear more about?
 
can anyone suggest a full bed polyester frame single or hybrid that will be comfortable for RF01 Pro? I have used Alu Power 21/19 kg and shredded my hand...
I will be getting Champions Choice soon but until then i would like to try full polyester options in order to determine whether the racket stiffness prohibits me from playing with this specific racket in the future. Thanks.
element is great in a poly blend. i sue it in this racquet and it plays really well
 
Yes. I was on the play test for the RF01 pro and I mained the PA98 for almost a year. The PA98 has better maneuverability, spin, and honestly a bit better feel from the baseline. The RF pro has better feel for me at the net, but it weirdly feels more disconnected on groundstrokes. The power felt roughly equal between the two. The launch angle is higher on the PA98 than the RF pro. Control is another mixed bag for me due to the string spacing on the RF pro. Groundstrokes feel a little more predictable on the PA98 because the RF pro's string spacing really seems to affect the ball if you hit outside of it's extremely small sweet spot. Is there a characteristics in particular that you wanted to hear more about?
Great info, thanks! I am playing the PS 97 v13 with some lead as main racket and alongside testing the PA98 also with some lead. The one thing that I can't dial in is the flat 1st serve on the Aero. Maybe because of frame shape but it is much slower than hitting with the box beam PS. How is the RF in that regard, as it has similar aero shape?
 
Great info, thanks! I am playing the PS 97 v13 with some lead as main racket and alongside testing the PA98 also with some lead. The one thing that I can't dial in is the flat 1st serve on the Aero. Maybe because of frame shape but it is much slower than hitting with the box beam PS. How is the RF in that regard, as it has similar aero shape?
I had a little more trouble getting the RF pro to swing as quickly through the air on serve due to the higher static weight. I did not notice a big difference in the speed of my serve though because the RF has more weight behind it on contact. Seemed a little like an even trade off for me, but ymmv
 
Wilson RF01 peRFect Playtest (300gr.)

String & Tension: used for test:
Solinco Hyper-G Shaped / Round Hybrid 17 g. @ 44 m 46 crosses.
Tennis experience/background: I have played, coached and been stringing racquets for over 10 years and I am always experimenting with equipment, strings, diet and training etc. in search of things that work. Currently, self-rated at 4.0 looking for 4.5 NTRP.

Playing Style: All-court attacking style. Love to come in whenever possible. Can play from the baseline, but prefer to be inside of it especially on returns and will play the occasional serve and volley, so I need a racquet that is quick enough to accommodate this style of play.
Current racquet/string setup: Babolat Pure Strike 98 16x19 (Gen 2 and 3) weighted in the hoop and buttcap to approx. 11.5 oz. Strings: Generally a Poly / Poly Hybrid. Shaped Poly Mains / round poly crosses. Mains Ytex Quadro Twist 17, Hyper-G 17, or Volkl Cyclone 16 and Round polys like Kirschbaum Flash, PP Vendetta and the occasional synthetic gut or multi
Hours spent with RFO1: Approximately 12 hours absolutely stock (for playtest) with plans to modify post review by bumping up swing weight a touch by adding weight to give it a touch more stability, pop and plow through.

Stroke Comments:
Groundstrokes: From the first hit this was an easy racquet to play with. Power was noticeably greater than my current Pure Strike. It was easy to hit with pace off of both wings and I particularly enjoyed driving shots of my 2HBH. The slightly shaped beam moved through the air easily too. Racquet head speed was easier to generate too, giving me options of power or spin generation. Power was easy but the swing weight was a little low for my tastes, but that is something that can be tailored with a little lead tape. The feel of the ball was firm, but muted due to the foam filled grip. No problem at all with the size of the sweetspot (a touch smaller) and the transition from my Pure Strike 98 was nearly seamless - that for me is very unusual. The biggest differences were power output (higher) , swing weight ( lower) and crispness (more) of feel. The RF01 launch angle was nominally lower, better for drives but you do need to keep that in mind.

Serves: Serves and ROS are critical to my game (as for most) and the RF01 gave me a lot of confidence to hit both. This racquet delivers plenty of spin for kicks or slices and the power and head speed is awesome for hitting flat bombs up the T. That’s where the tighter string pattern helps most. The aero shape and light weight probably helped a bit here too. The slightly thicker beam delivered plenty of power and directional stability. Awesome for overheads too.

Volleys: As an attacking all-court player I tend to hit a lot of volleys and the RFO1 did not disappoint. Firm, powerful, and controlled best describes my experience. For a light racquet it was very stable (not RF97 stable) and the pop it delivers lets you dictate play around the net. This racquet is quick too, which is a big help in getting your racquet on a lot of balls.

Service Return: Return of Serve is critical to my game. For me it is also what separates good racquets / strings from just okay. While it does generate power the denser mid-string bed gives you a fair amount of control. I loved being able to redirect pace with ultra-compact swings and drive it cross court or down the line. In stock form it feels a little light for me, but when I give it a little weight later it will be a screamer.

Racquet Performance:
Power / Control
Power stands out on the RF01 to me as it is (much) more powerful of a racquet than my previous ProStaffs and Pure Strikes. Not too much, but the difference is notable. Most of the time, the added power is a welcome addition to my game. In fact, it is a bit alluring calling you to hit even harder. It can be fun ( a little reminiscent of hitting with Pure Aeros) but what I got in terms of power I lost in terms of touch and accuracy. Generally control (directional / depth) was fine, with the directional being somewhat better IMO than the depth. I had to be more aware with the increase in power of how deep I was hitting, but that’s just getting used to any new racquet.

Top Spin/Slice:
With a 16x19 and strung with Hyper-G spin was not an issue. It is not a spin monster, but spin generation was better than my ProStaff and somewhat on par with my Pure Strike racquets. Groundstrokes were dipping, but my topspin lobs were going long more than I would have liked.

Slices were very nice and powerful, but hindered just a bit by the head light weight. I also had to be aware of a slightly lower trajectory than I’ve been accustomed to. When hit right this helped the ball knife through the air and stay low.

Comfort
The foam filled handle made the RF01 comfortable even though the racquet itself is firm/ crisp. Thanks to the RF01 lower RA of 64 and Wilson’s carbon braid it never felt harsh in the slightest. I think it struck the peRFect balance between comfort and crispness.

Feel
The feel of this racquet is very nice, but not the magic that you might have come to expect from the previous RF97 and ProStaff lines. Again I think this might be a result of the overall light weight and I expect this area to benefit greatly by a little additional weight. As it is now I like it, but not head over heels in love with it. Considered also that I strung it up with poly and there is definitely some wiggle room to make it even better.

Maneuverability
Another definite strength of this racquet. The RF01 is highly maneuverable, being light helps, but the overall balance adds to this as well. It nice as is, but it is so quick that I know I’ll be able to add some weight and it will still be quicker than most racquets! If you need or value quickness in a racquet like I do the RF01 is definitely one of the racquets you need to check out!

Stability
Quick and stable. The new 23mm Shift-like beam absolutely lend itself to making this racquet very stable. One thing I hate is for a racquet to twist in my hand when returning a big shot or serve and the RF01 represented itself well time and time again. For me that is huge around the net and on return of serves. I could play with this anytime!!

General Reaction/ Additional Comments:

What an interesting racquet !! I love the lineage of this offering from Wilson, but it is definitely not a ProStaff it is uniquely a new Wilson line that walks a fine line of paying homage to the RF97/ ProStaff lines while not being constrained by them. It looks outstanding, sleek, stylish and elegant. We wouldn’t expect anything less from and RF racquet. Out of the box it plays very well too and if you never changed a thing you might love it. For me though what is even more intriguing is how this will play with some minor modifications. As others have said, this is a great platform racquet just dying to be modified and I think a little weight in the hoop will unleash the true potential of the RF01. For me I want a racquet as heavy as I can swing without making it too slow, so the out of the box lightweight of the RFO1 is something that appeals to me since I can add weight where I want it.

I am sure to be adding to this after I make some mods to continue this review !!

Thanks TW and Wilson for making this peRFect playtest happen!! Thanks to Roger too!!
Do you think that the mix of hyper g and the mid 40's tension helped in the comfort and spin category in a way that alternate strings and tension would result in a different opinion? I ask because I am considering a tension that is sub 48 with o toro or another soft shaped string.
 
Do you think that the mix of hyper g and the mid 40's tension helped in the comfort and spin category in a way that alternate strings and tension would result in a different opinion? I ask because I am considering a tension that is sub 48 with o toro or another soft shaped string.
Yes, polys in general feel better to me in the mid-forties. Solinco, Toroline, HEAD I generally string near 46 m / 48cr and get good results and never any discomfort.
 
Is there a consensus on best string setups(strings/hybrids and tension) for what you want out of the RF 01 300 and 320(help with spin, comfort, great feel, etc)?
 
Sure thing! Essentially, this:
  • Uses a 1.30mm Multi Strings (Tecnifibre Multifeel 16/1.30 String Natural i think) with high tension maintenance ratings (softer for his elbow and generally more forgiving) at 23 kilograms (50 to 51 lbs) full bed.
  • Weight at 12 o'clock in the hoop
  • He wanted to keep snapback (hence the large gauge multis). He notes that he gets 8 hours of "intense" hitting before the string start to lose tension significantly.
  • He was willing to sacrifice spin potential (makes sense, the RF 01 seems like an attacking racket) but wanted to keep defensive slices available and low over the net ("block shots" as he calls it).
  • In his video, he claims that this set-up opened up the sweet spot meaningfully but lowered the swing weight as a result (hence the added lead at the tip of the racquet).
Seems like a super flat hitter's dream. I was thinking of trying this with some adjustments.
  • Experiment with a full bed of Gosen AK Control 17/1.24 string (best spin multi) at 54lbs in the mains with 52lbs in the crosses.
  • Experiment with a full bed of Ashaway MonoGut ZX 16/1.27 string or Ashaway MonoGut ZX Pro 17/1.22 String at 53lbs in the mains with 50lbs in the crosses.
  • Place lead weight at 2 and 10 o'clock ( 1 or 2 grams on each side?)
  • Add tungsten putty into handle or put lead weight at bottom of inside of throat in order to find the proper balance.
 
Did anybody notice this video about the RF01 customization?

Wow 301 STRUNG SW in stock form? What's the point of a racquet that needs 6 grams of lead slapped on the upper hoop to be playable? It must feel so gutless in stock form and destroy your arm because the only way to win the collision with that little weight is to swing with way too much arm motion.
 
Wow 301 STRUNG SW in stock form? What's the point of a racquet that needs 6 grams of lead slapped on the upper hoop to be playable? It must feel so gutless in stock form and destroy your arm because the only way to win the collision with that little weight is to swing with way too much arm motion.
I thought that was weird too. He clearly got bad stock. Like, he should just return it and get another one.
 
I thought that was weird too. He clearly got bad stock. Like, he should just return it and get another one.
I agree that 301 strung is too low, but don't know if you can return a racquet for low swingweight if the target swIngweight is not specified to begin with (assuming the swingweight was measured after the plastic on the handle was removed).
 
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