tennisplayer.net is awesome

DoubleHanded&LovinIt

Professional
My membership to tennisone.com was ending on Friday and I was thinking about renewing it. However, having had it for a year, I thought I was due for a change. Today, I signed up for my membership at tennisplayer.net. It's incredible. The videos are much bigger. The articles from John Yandell are groundbreaking. I learned more from his articles than anything any professional coach has ever written. John's words along with his pics and videos is enough for me to want to pay 100 bucks a year.

John, what I'd really like is for the pics of pros grips, a breakdown of the Federer forehand, and a breakdown of the Safin backhand.

Oh, if Deuce is around here, or JD is, tell them I'm not members of the tennisplayer.net team. Those two muckrakers crack me up. Peace.
 

JohnYandell

Hall of Fame
Disco?

Thanks for the more than kind words--that's how I feel about the site and it's great that other people are finding it that way too...

Federer's FH is coming up next month--if I can get off these damn message boards for a while...
Grips, yes. But very very tough to get in live action as a still. But I've looked at a lot them closely in slow mo--if you have the DVDs you can too. In the differences article on the forehand I go over the forehand variations and more to come on backhand etc.

Great idea for a section--I'll add it to the list of the 100 suggestions I got so far today...

By the way--that's not disco!! That's Blondie, Shayla--we used to call it New Wave...
 

Saito

Professional
I was in the same discussion you were about the different sites last night, and I must admit tennisplayer.net has quality stuff..... excellent choice if people are interested.... kinda high in price for me but I can see how people would find it worth it.. great job tennisplayer.net!!!!!! :D
 

ShooterMcMarco

Hall of Fame
yeah, if i had money to pay 20 a month i'd do it in a heartbeat. but being the broke unemployed college student that i am......

i'll tell you what John, if i win this coming saturday's texas hold'em tournament, then i'll try a month of it. i am already impressed with everything i have seenf from that site. excellent job.
 

RedGinseng

Rookie
I'm an unemployed college student too so I went there and watched the samples over and over. I will subscribe when I get a full-time job. I don't know when though Geeez
 

papa

Hall of Fame
Anything John Yandall is involved with is awesome - if you don't think so, get a copy of "Visual Tennis" (might be out of print) and just take a look. Although there have been quite a few, he is certainly one of the bright lights in the tennis world.
 

JohnYandell

Hall of Fame
Ok guys it may be getting a little deep in here...where's the upside? seriously though, we are just getting started on the site and I hope I can live up to this and you guys still are generally positive next year (in time for renewals!)
 

Mahboob Khan

Hall of Fame
Modern forehand analysis under Advance Tennis Research section is quite informative. Yes, the video clips are very clear. Some take quite a long time to load. Maybe there is problem with my system?
 

finchy

Professional
are you able to download the videos for yourself from tennisplayer.net? from all i've seen, the clips on the site are only flashes but are very nice quality.

i might join if i mow 5 lawns. lol.

btw, JohnY, can you post here when the Federer forehand analysis is up? thanks!
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
finchy said:
are you able to download the videos for yourself from tennisplayer.net? from all i've seen, the clips on the site are only flashes but are very nice quality.

if you go to the players, most of them are .mov
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Mahboob Khan said:
Modern forehand analysis under Advance Tennis Research section is quite informative. Yes, the video clips are very clear. Some take quite a long time to load. Maybe there is problem with my system?

do you have a high-speed Internet connection? (DSL, cable Internet)? quite important.
 

JohnYandell

Hall of Fame
Clips

In the Stroke Archives, all the clips are QT movies. You can right click and actually download them to your hard drive IF you have QT Pro which is well well worth it. Allows you to edit, etc.
Once you have them on your system, you can then open multiple QT movie windows and look at the players or shots side by side--plus side by side with yourself or other players you film.
As for the download, even though the windows are bigger and better, the file size is usually smaller than on some other site I won't mention--typically aroung 1/2 or less! We all need to thank our genius Technical Editor Aaron Martinez as he's the one who created this. Bigger, prettier, faster--don't we all want to be that...Still might take a while on dial up...
 

ChiefAce

Semi-Pro
JohnYandell said:
In the Stroke Archives, all the clips are QT movies. You can right click and actually download them to your hard drive IF you have QT Pro which is well well worth it. Allows you to edit, etc.
Once you have them on your system, you can then open multiple QT movie windows and look at the players or shots side by side--plus side by side with yourself or other players you film.
As for the download, even though the windows are bigger and better, the file size is usually smaller than on some other site I won't mention--typically aroung 1/2 or less! We all need to thank our genius Technical Editor Aaron Martinez as he's the one who created this. Bigger, prettier, faster--don't we all want to be that...Still might take a while on dial up...


Any chance of the price being lower for current or former tennisone members?

Do you guys have the frame by frame print that procompartennis offers? That would be a great tool for learning because you would be able to print off a sequence of pictures. Most picture sequences tend to have to few pictures like tennis magazine where they show 6 or pictures for a stroke. The ability to print of 30-40 pictures in sequence would be tremendous.
 

JohnYandell

Hall of Fame
Sorry,
We didn't go that direction with the still sequences--you can do it maybe with a few hundred clips but not with a real archive of thousands of clips. Remember you can do your own prints capturing Jpegs out of QT, but what I find is that most players and coaches want to see it move--you video your player you go look at him, then the QT's then back on the court.
As for a discount. Not at this time. I'm not sure how we'd do that--make people send in their logins and test them?? And what about if you were a member of like TennisONE 3 years ago? Do you get the discount now? Blah blah.
Like I said--my focus is on the site and not devising complex marketing options. I said this before but try it for a month and then decide if it's worth going for the year. If you really understand the value of everything there and compare it anything else, you may agree with me that's a huge bargain.
 

Defcon

Hall of Fame
For anyone wanting to play QT movies on their pc, I would suggest you you install QT Alternative (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm) instead.

Its a collection of QT codecs along with a Directshow filter (sorry for being technical), and what it does is gives you pro functionality and allow you to use any media player to view QT movies instead of Apple's player, which IMO is a monstrosity. On the same site you also have Real Alternative.

Back on topic, I would also like to join tennisplayer.net but $20/month is a bit too much for me. Perhaps there could be a trial period, say $5 for a week which will let us explore the site.
 

Fred132

Rookie
I would love a way to look at two QT clips side by side, and do a "frame advance" through each. Like, put Agassi's first and second serve from the same angle and compare them side-by-side.

Is there a way to do this using QT pro, or the codecs that Defcon mentioned?

BTW I joined tennisplayer.net...if they add anything at all over the next year (which I'm sure they will) it's well worth the yearly fee.
 

JohnYandell

Hall of Fame
On Tennisplayer if you have QT Pro you can right click and download the clips to your hard drive. Once you have them on the drive, you can then open them and actually open multiple movies side by side.

On the QT file just go to open movie in new player.Now you can make the comparisons you want. You can open literally a dozen windows or more if you want.
 

JohnYandell

Hall of Fame
AND I spoke incompletely above. Tennisplayer doesn't give you the print sequences directly but they are actually easy to produce, again with QT player.

Take the clip you want to print and export it to an image sequence. Now you can print it out--or even select which frames to print.
 

ABC

New User
JohnYandell said:
In the Stroke Archives, all the clips are QT movies. You can right click and actually download them to your hard drive IF you have QT Pro which is well well worth it. Allows you to edit, etc.
Once you have them on your system, you can then open multiple QT movie windows and look at the players or shots side by side--plus side by side with yourself or other players you film.
As for the download, even though the windows are bigger and better, the file size is usually smaller than on some other site I won't mention--typically aroung 1/2 or less! We all need to thank our genius Technical Editor Aaron Martinez as he's the one who created this. Bigger, prettier, faster--don't we all want to be that...Still might take a while on dial up...

That's dumb Yanman. We don't want bigger (at least not me) we want faster and higher resolution! Please.
 

JohnYandell

Hall of Fame
Hey I may be dumb--but at least I can get the facts straight...and try to correct any misrepresentations or misunderstandings that may come up--that's all I ask is that any comments be accurate.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
JohnYandell said:
On Tennisplayer if you have QT Pro you can right click and download the clips to your hard drive. Once you have them on the drive, you can then open them and actually open multiple movies side by side.

On the QT file just go to open movie in new player.Now you can make the comparisons you want. You can open literally a dozen windows or more if you want.

There's another clip download capability, which doesn't require you to purchase QT Pro.

If you have Linux as an operating system, the Mozilla browser will allow you to save a page to your computer, including the resident QuickTime/.mov clip, which it seems IE doesn't quite do when saving complete pages, for whatever reasons.

Then you can review them locally, compare, etc.

For viewing capability though, I prefer the Windows version of QuickTime (esp in order to be able to step-by-step).
 

D-man

Banned
I posted this on another thread but this one seems more relevant:

Hey, I was wondering, if you sign up would it be acceptable to keep the video clips on your hard drive after your membership expires or would that be part of your fee?
 
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