Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Craig Sheppard, Sep 9, 2007.
Wow is it nice to park it on Sunday and watch the games!!!! Nothing's as good as the NFL.
Well the Colts already won and the Bengals don't play until Monday so highlight of today is Nole vs. Fed for me
hmmm....that used to be the case for me. now i can't get enough tennis. but nfl runs a close second! i turn the games on and get my housework done - then sit and watch the highlights. college football is slightly higher on the list than nfl - because i have a true loyalty - even if they drive me crazy sometimes.
Yea, I'm pumped for the season!
My dad got season tickets for the Bears, and he is taking my brother for most of them...oh the pain of living across the country!:lol:
lak!!! my heart breaks for you. hey - we went by soldier field when we were in chicago. and perhaps my highlihgt (sorry) was lambeau field. soooooooo want to see favre there before the end of the season - as surely this will be his last. although just hope me makes it through the season. he (they) look horrible.
Go 49ers. >.> We're over due.
My favorite NFL team is the Falcons..... and well..... this season just ain't gonna be the same.
Wrong, what about the Rugby World cup 2007? Fitter players, Faster played, no non-stop breaks in play, no over complicated rules, actually having technique to tackling instead of just barging into the other player and using their big plastic pads. Rugbys for the tougher, stronger, and physically better athletes in the world
Typical Europeans, can't stand it when Americans are better at a sport they wouldn't last five seconds in .
pats looked awesome today, the brady to moss combo is awesome, 183 yards i think, and a 51 yard td. o and hobbs returned a kickoff for 108 yards, awesome
Wow can't believe Green Bay beat Philly, not a good start for the Eagles but a perfect one for Favre in his last season.
Gee, I ALMOST feel sorry for the Browns. NOT!
yes - he did his thang! got it done. that one drive was amazing. just never quites. love it!
I would bet that if the typical NFL fullback were let loose on a rugby field, he would cause absolute havoc. The entire opposing team would have footprints implanted on their foreheads. I've watched rugby and those guys tackle like shiate.
well said phil. well said. ever heard of javorskie lane at tx a&m...he'd kill out there. absolutely takes 3-4 blokes to take him down in pads... unreal!
Fitter players? An NFL RB put onto a rugby field(pitch?) would decimate. They are bigger, faster, stronger and just about every other thing you can think of. Maybe not tougher though.
Here's a comparison for you
Yeah I've watched rugby. NFL starters would shred them to bits.
My Broncos got off to a nail biting 15-14 win, but good enough for me!!!
Giants are about to lose their opening match against Dallas, what a shame, it's like i'm watching Giants of last year, Coughlin should go and they should put fresh new line backers because the actual line backers suck.
Agree with that, they should've ditched Coughlin, not Tiki. He said he would've kept playing if they got rid of Coughlin. Don't understand why they keep him... doesn't do them any good.
It's gettin worst for the Giants, Coughlin should have gone since long time.
any else with me?
Woo-hoo!! How 'bout them Cowboys!!!
lol, the chargers owned them, and took out 2 of their players.
Wow, my Redskins looked bad today...but we'll take the W. I'm thnking a .500 season this year....
Freaking Cowboys, hate them.
Yeah I was sick about it...
I just watched a rugby game yesterday and I'm not so sure the NFL would fare as well as some of you think. The running backs might be ok, the wide receivers wouldn't make it and the quarterbacks? No way. The linesmen are pretty out of shape, they huff and puff after a few downs and generally are slow as hail.
i doubt it but that is my opinion, it would be an interesting experiment, to get some rugby players to play high level american football and american football players to play high level rugby
Why do you doubt it? You seem to know very little or nothing about American football, so even if it is your opinion, it is surely one based on ignorance.
Owned them?! Please!!! The Chargers looked horrible! They would have scored ZERO points without the help of multiple Bears turnovers. That game should have ended 3-0 or 6-0 Bears, if Chicago had more than a DIII level quarterback. I'm a Bears fan that lives in San Diego. I honestly didn't think the Bears would return to the Super Bowl this year but after watching New Orleans and Philly play like punks, me thinks they have a good shot. The Chargers better get ready for Indy and the Pats 'cause if the Bears can hang with them offensively, the Colts and Pats will light 'em up for 30-35. Check the stats lines for the Chargers' offense. The Bears shut them down.
I don't doubt it at all. I wasn't pro level but I did play at a top 20 DI college and played rugby recreationally at a pretty high level with ex-college players a few years after graduating. Don't get me wrong, there are some very fast, tough, strong guys but not many at the NFL's level. The collisions aren't nearly as violent. The difference in speed and strength are very stark. Like Phil said, put Ladanian or any other NFL back, most of whom bench 350-400, squat 500-600 and run 4.2-4.4 forties and they would tear up a rugby field.
Seattle Seahawks, 2008 Superbowl Champions
Giants doing even worse as Favre completely destroys their secondary, Green Bay stomps the Giants 36-13.
Indy edged out the Titans in a close one and Cincy allows 51 to the freaking Browns in a loss (WTF? No, not World Tour Final)
no.1 if that was in the USA then how are you supposed to get a good comparison, USA suck at rugby, they only got close to England because England suck too.
no2. Maybe thats because there is absolutely no technique to NFL tackling and the fattest and most heavily padded linebacker just has to run into the other player.
no3. Maybe they can do that and its very impressive, but most NFL plays last about 10 seconds or something, in Rugby the ball stays in play for sometimes up to 20 minutes a time or more.NFL players dont have the stamina.
who would you rather face? a guy who looks like this:
and tackles like this http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xrbp1ASVhCg
or a guy who looks like this:
and plays like this:
I'd rather choose the guy on the bottom to get hit by
Cowboys !! - America's Team baby
We'll make you bleed in February after we trample New England.
Hey forzainter. Pretty easy when you hand-pick. The fact of the matter is, the guy on top would never catch anyone on the field, making him absolutely, and completely useless.
Rugby's a matter of not being the last guy the ball can be thrown at, because that's all they do: getting rid of the ball or not having time to do so and getting drilled. Mental patients could play rugby, not football.
I've played both, one at a very high level (football) and one (rugby) with college players (at least a decent level), so I can definitely make a better comaparison that you. I'll take the guy on top any day of the week. I'm 32 years old but I'll take that guy on 10 times a day before one attempt with an NFL linebacker of defensive end. Brian Urlacher of the Bears will eat that guy's cookies ANY day of the week. I played at a D1 shool, VA Tech, which is perenially top 20 in the nation and the next step down from Pro level. Granted, the USA sucks at rugby but even though rugby is probably the 50th most popular sport in our country, we still manage to give good old England (top 10 in the world and rugby is probably the 2nd most popular sport) all they want and be ranked in the top 20. We (the USA) always produce some of the best track teams in the world. Everyone knows (despite recent losses) we have the best basketball athletes in the world. There is no denying the athleticism of the NFL. If we put our best athletes into rugby, why wouldn't we dominate? Euro and South American basketball and soccer athletes are notorious for being "soft". Why would Mother England and all her Commonwealth spawn produce such fantastic athletes in rugby when they can't in any other sport, with the exception of soccer? And even soccer is debatable.
you have to understand that the reason those soft people play football and basketball is because they arent tough enough to play rugby, and again, you're playing rugby in USA, dont expect anything great
That's all well and good but you still haven't explained why we (USA) could hang with Englad in a sport we could give a toss about. The best athletes in the football/rugby mold in other countries play rugby. Here in the USA, they play football because 1. no one (in relative terms) plays rugby-there are very, very few junior/high school leagues and 2. why play rugby in the USA and be poor when you can play football and be a multi-millionaire?
And I don't expect anything great from rugby in the USA but at least I can make an educated comparison having played both. And by the way, I think these rugby guys are tough and fantastic athletes and in many cases, especially compared to NFL linemen, they do have more stamina and are better overall athletes. But to call them tougher, stronger, faster, harder hitters in flat-out false.
i could say the same about you and rugby my good sir
i thouht i explained, England suck, they have gone steadily downhill since RWC2003 and wil continue to suck, while USA are getting better, there is now even a big national rugby training center in San Francisco with good facilities
FWIW, my alma mater has one of the best rugby teams in the country (the best when I was attentding) AND it's a top Pac-10 football team. A lot of the athletes played both football and rugby.
ANYWAY . . . can you guys believe what the Pats did to the Chargers? Wow, cheaters or not, that's one scary team team.
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