THAT 41 shot rally Djokovic vs Zverev RG 2025

38 years of age, done everything there is in the sport with 100s of millions in the bank yet he still out there trying to win 41 shot rallies against players who are in their 20s. He has absolutely no need to be doing this stuff, yet he wants to cause he loves it and wants to still prove himself. His mentality is not achieveable.
 
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The quality of tennis from both players was high. Do not understand the Zed bashers.
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I don't totally disagree with you but from the overhead on, it was clear the Zed was playing the "hopefully this shot is good enough" way. He's just too comfortable hitting hard to a generally safe area to beat the top guys when it matters most. Djokovic was a faster, better defensive version of Zverev in his younger days but still had to learn to take advantage of the short balls and improve his net play to get to where he is. Zverev is gifted physically - being that tall and still very agile but he's not doing anything else with those physical gifts. What happens when he slows down? I can see him dropping in rankings very quickly sometime in his 30's.
 
I don't totally disagree with you but from the overhead on, it was clear the Zed was playing the "hopefully this shot is good enough" way. He's just too comfortable hitting hard to a generally safe area to beat the top guys when it matters most. Djokovic was a faster, better defensive version of Zverev in his younger days but still had to learn to take advantage of the short balls and improve his net play to get to where he is. Zverev is gifted physically - being that tall and still very agile but he's not doing anything else with those physical gifts. What happens when he slows down? I can see him dropping in rankings very quickly sometime in his 30's.
Zed has greatly improved his volleys. Handles the low volleys beautifully...
Not sure what is going on with his overhead. One would think a player with such a monster serve would putting away those smashes.
 
Watch closely and you will see the Djoker did not have to move all that much in that rally; he ran Zed around.
Zed said that it was a very physical match for him.
The quality of tennis from both players was high. Do not understand the Zed bashers.
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r u serious?
zchoker is a highly limited player who only has one tactic : a good serve followed-up with big shots
when his serves are not good enough and/or opponents can stay rallies after first two hits, he has not other tricks to win
his quality of tennis was high?
except his height, he has nothing high
 
Can he beat Sinner in your opinion?
Second semi in a rainy day, will play pretty slow. That may give Djokovic the chance to dig deep and use his bag of tricks.

I'm not sure he can handle Sinner's high horsepower baselining these days though.

Let's say Sinner is a 75-25 favorite.
 
That 41 shot rally to stave off break point was the key. This was the rally of the tournament so far. That would have allowed Zverev back into the match. But Djoker was having none of that. This rally showed the world that Djoker should not be the underdog. He’s the best ever.

It was rallies like these that showed me that Djoker can outlast anybody; if needed. With this guy, age is just a number. He’s playing like 2023 now. He’s dialed in. That was a masterclass that he put on.

TTW has it wrong. I think that Djoker should be favored over Sinner. Djoker is the King of Clay at the moment.
 
That 41 shot rally to stave off break point was the key. This was the rally of the tournament so far. That would have allowed Zverev back into the match. But Djoker was having none of that. This rally showed the world that Djoker should not be the underdog. He’s the best ever.

It was rallies like these that showed me that Djoker can outlast anybody; if needed. With this guy, age is just a number. He’s playing like 2023 now. He’s dialed in. That was a masterclass that he put on.

TTW has it wrong. I think that Djoker should be favored over Sinner. Djoker is the King of Clay at the moment.
Djokovic has beaten two top 5 players in AO and rg respectively.

Federer beat Nadal in Wimbledon 2019 but his last top 5 win must be back in AO 2017.

Connors never as good as Djokovic at 37/38 either.

Only rosewall in 1974 can match to what Djokovic is doing. Rosewall was 39/40 years old and beat Newcombe 2 times in slams as top 5.
 
r u serious?
zchoker is a highly limited player who only has one tactic : a good serve followed-up with big shots
when his serves are not good enough and/or opponents can stay rallies after first two hits, he has not other tricks to win
his quality of tennis was high?
except his height, he has nothing high
Anyone thinking that was High quality doesn't watch much tennis and hasn't played the game at a reasonable level. That smash Zverev hit was worse than a park player and all match he had easy put aways and pushed the ball back.
Djokovic was tactically excellent but Zverev was dreadful and there is alot of face saving going on for him it seems after the blistering Criticisms the pundits gave last night
 
Djokovic has beaten two top 5 players in AO and rg respectively.

Federer beat Nadal in Wimbledon 2019 but his last top 5 win must be back in AO 2017.

Connors never as good as Djokovic at 37/38 either.

Only rosewall in 1974 can match to what Djokovic is doing. Rosewall was 39/40 years old and beat Newcombe 2 times in slams as top 5.
So you have Rosewall ahead of Laver?
 
In longevity yes. .
Goat has two dimensions - consistency + dominance.

Laver edges rosewall in dominance.

Nole edges your Nadal in both dominance and longevity
Lol. Guess u were nor watching 2008-2014 when both close to their peak.

You just dug yourself a hole haven't u. Always the same thing. Contradictory arguments. Who was greater Laver or Rosewall? Come on make a pick
 
Lol. Guess u were nor watching 2008-2014 when both close to their peak.

You just dug yourself a hole haven't u. Always the same thing. Contradictory arguments. Who was greater Laver or Rosewall? Come on make a pick
No no. I want to be as logical as a machine so don't dig myself in a hole.

But character and honesty is not a trait for many humans.
 
Things are getting spicy on X..really is a must win match for Djokovic and Sinner. I knew this would happen. Its going to be good this
I think sinner wins but love a bit of needle myself. Yeah I seen it on X and the fan wars after fever pitch. Sinner and Djokovic fans really hate each other on there. Djokovic and sinner respect each other but no love lost. I admire sinner though and he’s been fantastic for the game.
 
That 41 shot rally to stave off break point was the key. This was the rally of the tournament so far. That would have allowed Zverev back into the match. But Djoker was having none of that. This rally showed the world that Djoker should not be the underdog. He’s the best ever.

It was rallies like these that showed me that Djoker can outlast anybody; if needed. With this guy, age is just a number. He’s playing like 2023 now. He’s dialed in. That was a masterclass that he put on.

TTW has it wrong. I think that Djoker should be favored over Sinner. Djoker is the King of Clay at the moment.

You can't be serious. Djoker is a 4 to 1 underdog.
Coming off a physically grueling match while Sinner had a walkover against the Bubblik clown.
 
r u serious?
zchoker is a highly limited player who only has one tactic : a good serve followed-up with big shots
when his serves are not good enough and/or opponents can stay rallies after first two hits, he has not other tricks to win
his quality of tennis was high?
except his height, he has nothing high
i did not see the whole match, only the highlights but it seemed like a very tame match by zverev from the highlights. Just his typical pusher stuff, having absolutely no confidence in his FH. The usual
 
Second semi in a rainy day, will play pretty slow. That may give Djokovic the chance to dig deep and use his bag of tricks.

I'm not sure he can handle Sinner's high horsepower baselining these days though.

Let's say Sinner is a 75-25 favorite.
I think precisely because of the conditions, djokovic could win the match. Yes sinner is the deserved favorite but i have a feeling djokovic will win
 
Zed has greatly improved his volleys. Handles the low volleys beautifully...
Not sure what is going on with his overhead. One would think a player with such a monster serve would putting away those smashes.
The quality of a players overhead is not that well correlated with the quality of their serve. Nadal and agassi both had excellent overheads, but fairly average serve. Overhead are mostly about mindset and simply going for it. Z’s volleys have always been pretty good but it’s really more about how aggressive his strategy and positioning is. After all, his brother is a pure serve and volleyer.
 
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Anyone thinking that was High quality doesn't watch much tennis and hasn't played the game at a reasonable level. That smash Zverev hit was worse than a park player and all match he had easy put aways and pushed the ball back.
Djokovic was tactically excellent but Zverev was dreadful and there is alot of face saving going on for him it seems after the blistering Criticisms the pundits gave last night
This! exactly this!
 
We are really setting a low bar these days...

Djokovic barely moved. It's only a highlight reel shot because Zverev hit two terrible overheads directly back at Djokovic, and a volley that practically landed on Djokovic's racquet.
 
i did not see the whole match, only the highlights but it seemed like a very tame match by zverev from the highlights. Just his typical pusher stuff, having absolutely no confidence in his FH. The usual
The first two sets were pretty close.
 
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