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Great victory for Istomin there, he played great and deserved the win. Kudos to him.
Djokovic 2015>any version of FedererDjokovic 2017 > Djokovic 2015 according to the law of Djokofangurls.
Nah, we’re all just in agreement that Joker was in great form leading into the 2017 AO after just beating newly crowned #1 and fellow ATG MurrayGOAT 11 days earlier. Meanwhile, RAFA’s best win leading up to the 2015 RG was checks notes* Berdych in MadridWonder why this thread only has one page but the other about 300 posts. I guess some arent as insecure as others
It probably has only one page because Nole losing at his best slam is a rather common thing to happen while Nadal losing at FO is the biggest upset in the history of this sport.Wonder why this thread only has one page but the other about 300 posts. I guess some arent as insecure as others
your threads don't get delated because of that, your threads get delated because:Great thread. Usually when I create such threads they get deleted but maybe I can private message some of you guys my ideas for similar threads and you can post them instead of me. It would be a win-win situation.
your threads don't get delated because of that, your threads get delated because:
Well, this thread was made as a response to Djokovic fans once again bringing their usual BS about peak 2015 Nadal. Which is why @Yugram mentioned AO 2005 too.
Djokovic 2015>any version of Federer
Djokovic has won the AO nine freakin' times, he's far and away the Australian Open GOAT. He's never had a "shameful" loss there. If you have this ridiculous mindset, apply the same standard to Nadal at Wimbledon, where he lost to dudes like Mueller, Dustin Brown, Darcis and Rosol, all ranked below 100 at the time they defeated Rafa there.We should not forget shameful losses to Istomin, Chung, Tsonga, Safin (while being bageled, too), and even... *******!
Big shadow on the supposed tournament’s GOAT.
What does the 2018 AO have to do with the 2017 AOGreat performance by Denis but Djokovic was a shadow of himself, even lost to Chung the following year. The most impressive victory over Djokovic at the AO is Wawrinka's by miles, but Tsonga/Roddick were also more impressive than Chung/Istomin as his slump when he played the former was smaller than the slump when he played the latter.
@Yugram made this thread in retaliation because Djoko_Django made a thread bragging about Crapdal’s 2015 RG loss.Djokovic has won the AO nine freakin' times, he's far and away the Australian Open GOAT. He's never had a "shameful" loss there. If you have this ridiculous mindset, apply the same standard to Nadal at Wimbledon, where he lost to dudes like Mueller, Dustin Brown, Darcis and Rosol, all ranked below 100 at the time they defeated Rafa there.
Clearly not, otherwise he wouldn't have lost. Unless of course you believe Istomin at his best is better than Djokovic at his best.What does the 2018 AO have to do with the 2017 AO
Joker beat world #1 MurrayGOAT in a high level F in Doha 11 days prior to the Winstomin match (where he was 2-1). Based on that, he was actually in great form heading into his pet schlem.
What does the 2018 AO have to do with the 2017 AO
Joker beat world #1 MurrayGOAT in a high level F in Doha 11 days prior to the Winstomin match (where he was up 2-1). Based on that, he was actually in great form heading into his pet schlem.
it's a legit win at RG, Fed fans would brag the same if Fed was capable of beating Rafa at RG@Yugram made this thread in retaliation because Djoko_Django made a thread bragging about Crapdal’s 2015 RG loss.
Tell that to the ********* that think 2015 RG was Peakdal.Clearly not, otherwise he wouldn't have lost. Unless of course you believe Istomin at his best is better than Djokovic at his best.
Just like Istomin’s win is legit. No one says that’s a win over Peakovic though like some of the guys in the Joker fanbase say that 2015 was Peakdal.it's a legit win at RG, Fed fans would brag the same if Fed was capable of beating Rafa at RG
No Djokovic fan thinks that.Tell that to the ********* that think 2015 RG was Peakdal.
And peak RAFA doesn’t drop sets to Jack Sock and get straight setted by Joker at RG.He was average in the second half of 2016 and in 2017 until he stopped because of injury. Yes, he was better than in 2018 but still poor for his standards, peak Djokovic doesn't lose in the 2R of a slam, especially the AO.
I guess you missed the thread that went 6 pages about it earlier today...No Djokovic fan thinks that.
Ok so I should've said no sane Djokovic fan thinks that. Still a legit win btw.I guess you missed the thread that went 6 pages about it earlier today...
he dropped 2 to Isner...... Sock won 1 set 7-5 lost the rest of the sets 6-3. 6-1, 6-2And peak RAFA doesn’t drop sets to Jack Sock and get straight setted by Joker at RG.
As was Istomin’s. I don’t have a problem with the loss. RAFA was no longer in his prime and had the worst season in his career since 2004.Ok so I should've said no sane Djokovic fan thinks that. Still a legit win btw.
2011 wasn’t peak RAFA. Prime yes, and Isner is about the worst 1R opponent you can play. Add that to the fact that 2011 was the year RG switched to much faster balls. That made his serve even tougher to deal with. And Sock isn’t the same caliber player Isner is. He’s basically semi-retired now.he dropped 2 to Isner...... Sock won 1 set 7-5 lost the rest of the sets 6-3. 6-1, 6-2
He also had bad 2014 clay season and still won RG. Rafa at RG is a different animal...Djoker deserves full credit for beating him there. He was just better level at that particular time...I also think 2016 he would have beat Rafa again.As was Istomin’s. I don’t have a problem with the loss. RAFA was no longer in his prime and had the worst season in his career since 2004.
2014 was either his worst or 2nd worst winning form at RG. After he hurt his back in the AO earlier that year his prime ended. And at least he won a title in 2014. In 2015 he had zero titles and had losses to Fognini 2x, Joker, Murray, and Wawrinka. RAFA at RG is a different animal, but the one that showed up in 2015 was roadkill. Joker deserves credit (just like Istomin does), but it wasn’t surprising at all. Had he beat Joker, then either Murray or Wawrinka would have finished the job. Joker’s level really wasn’t that impressive either. He got pushed to 5 by Murray who’s not a great CC player. And then he got obliterated by Wawrinka in the F. That should show you how low RAFA’s level was.He also had bad 2014 clay season and still won RG. Rafa at RG is a different animal...Djoker deserves full credit for beating him there. He was just better level at that particular time...I also think 2016 he would have beat Rafa again.
And peak RAFA doesn’t drop sets to Jack Sock and get straight setted by Joker at RG.
We will never know, we can only speculate. But one thing we do know....Djoker beat Rafa on Chatrier in 3 sets nonetheless.2014 was either his worst or 2nd worst winning form at RG. After he hurt his back in the AO earlier that year his prime ended. And at least he won a title in 2014. In 2015 he had zero titles and had losses to Fognini 2x, Joker, Murray, and Wawrinka. RAFA at RG is a different animal, but the one that showed up in 2015 was roadkill. Joker deserves credit (just like Istomin does), but it wasn’t surprising at all. Had he beat Joker, then either Murray or Wawrinka would have finished the job. Joker’s level really wasn’t that impressive either. He got pushed to 5 by Murray who’s not a great CC player. And then he got obliterated by Wawrinka in the F. That should show you how low RAFA’s level was.
I think RAFA beats 2017-2018 Joker at the AO.
Istomen/Chung matches came during the injury year culminating in surgery and Djokovic roaring back to almost win 4 straight slams. Keep tryingYeah. As great as Djokovic’s achievements are at AO, we should not forget shameful losses to Istomin, Chung, Tsonga, Safin (while being bageled, too), and even... *******!
Big shadow on the supposed tournament’s GOAT.
The point being that this thread was only made because a guy in your fanbase made a thread about RG 2015 being loss for a well playing RAFA when that’s obviously not true. Klizan and Brands both got hot in the early rounds and order was restored from set 2 onwards. Puerta was a serial doper who could only play that well because he was on the juice. Joker lost a set to Dodig in 2011, a set to old broken down Hewitt in 2012, and 2 sets to Simon in 2016.This is like, not related at all to Djokovic's level in 2018 or 2017 AO.
Nonetheless, he dropped sets to players worse than Sock before though (Klizan, Brands, Puerta).
Just like you’re speculating that Joker would have beaten RAFA again in 2016...when he was injured so not saying a lot. If Istomin and Chung beat 2017-2018 Joker then so could RAFA. The 2015 loss doesn’t even bother me. It was the worst version of RAFA and the loss came against a GOAT candidate. Joker has losses to Roddick, Tsonga, Wawrinka, Istomin, and Chung. None of them are ATGs and 2 are journeymen.We will never know, we can only speculate. But one thing we do know....Djoker beat Rafa on Chatrier in 3 sets nonetheless.
Fed had losses to Clement x2, Nalbandian, Haas, Seppi...Just like you’re speculating that Joker would have beaten RAFA again in 2016...when he was injured so not saying a lot. If Istomin and Chung beat 2017-2018 Joker then so could RAFA. The 2015 loss doesn’t even bother me. It was the worst version of RAFA and the loss came against a GOAT candidate. Joker has losses to Roddick, Tsonga, Wawrinka, Istomin, and Chung. None of them are ATGs and 2 are journeymen.
He’s not the AO GOAT tho...Fed had losses to Clement x2, Nalbandian, Haas, Seppi...
Which other?Wonder why this thread only has one page but the other about 300 posts. I guess some arent as insecure as others
He should retaliate by making a thread when Rafa was too strong for the AO goat at AO...and not use a different player@Yugram made this thread in retaliation because Djoko_Django made a thread bragging about Crapdal’s 2015 RG loss.
Joker got to play the worst version of RAFA ever. RAFA never got a chance to play the worst versions of Joker (2017-2018) because Joker lost to journeymenHe should retaliate by making a thread when Rafa was too strong for the AO goat at AO...and not use a different player
I didn’t know Nadal is Wimbledon GOAT. You learn something new every day on TTW.Djokovic has won the AO nine freakin' times, he's far and away the Australian Open GOAT. He's never had a "shameful" loss there. If you have this ridiculous mindset, apply the same standard to Nadal at Wimbledon, where he lost to dudes like Mueller, Dustin Brown, Darcis and Rosol, all ranked below 100 at the time they defeated Rafa there.
Well he lost in QF 2018 so regardless of Djoker results, Rafa didn't make it far enough eitherJoker got to play the worst version of RAFA ever. RAFA never got a chance to play the worst versions of Joker (2017-2018) because Joker lost to journeymen
Yeah, I remember that match where Djokovic had match points in RG final... oh wait. He wasn’t even close. And stop with excuses. Djokovic lost at AO to Istomin, Chung, and what’s even worse, to *******. Period.Istomen/Chung matches came during the injury year culminating in surgery and Djokovic roaring back to almost win 4 straight slams. Keep trying
2017 Joker went out in the 2R when RAFA was waiting in the F.Well he lost in QF 2018 so regardless of Djoker results, Rafa didn't make it far enough either