The 1953 Davis Cup Challenge Round: Australia 3, United States 2

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  1. kiki

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    Yes, Gorman had great results and was rock solid and quite of a complete player, very adaptable as well.But he lacked the serve of Smith or the return of Connors, or the athleticism of Ashe.

    The WCT Aetna WC was a big event those years, quit like the women´s Wightman Cup, which was essentially the very same thing.Only that changing Australia for the United Kingdom.
     
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    If Connors had played at Cleveland, it was (?) rubber, his best surface...could have won two matches, but Australia wins it 3 to 2.
     
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    Yes, that is right...Queen Mary was the grandmother of the present queen, and thus the physical similarity.

    Not sure about the new arrival...the royal women have a certain family likeness.
     
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    As recognition of last week's special royal event, here are the current Queen's appearances at Wimbledon in 1957 and 1962.

    In 1957, she watched Hoad win the men's final, and presented the women's trophy to Althea Gibson.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EJCqBsh2Dk

    In 1962, she presented the men's trophy to Laver.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGAo4oyBkMo
     
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    It was carpet but was it a rubberized carpet? I don't know.
     
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    The Harry Hopman legend began in 1939, when he "captained" or coached a remarkable upset win for Australia against a powerful U.S. squad in the Davis Cup final.

    Here is the final match in the comeback win, an ambidextrous Bromwich defeating a Frankie Parker looking like he was just off the beach at a California resort.

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/davis-cup-tennis-2/query/davis+cup
     
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    Hopman was, strangely, not in charge of Australian Davis Cup again until 1950, with his next win,

     
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    The great strength of the Australian teams in Davis Cup was their ability to play on any surface, including clay.

    Here is the 1960 Davis Cup final against Italy. The Italian team has difficulty with the Australian grass.



    In the 1964 final, played in Cleveland on clay, the Aussies scored the last two singles wins, Stolle edging Ralston in five sets, and Emerson winning the final against McKinley.

     
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    It was a risky strategy for the Americans to choose a clay venue, betting that Stolle could not play well on clay. Had grass been chosen, Ralston stood a better chance of a singles win against Stolle.
     
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    True enough. Even John Newcombe who was renown for his great grass court play was excellent on clay. He beat Rosewall in the 1968 French Pro, perhaps the strongest French Pro of all time on clay before losing to Laver in the final. He also won 1971 Canadian Open over Okker which is now known as the Rogers Cup. Same with Emerson.
     
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    Here are the two new clips in great video and sound of the 1953 Hoad/Trabert Davis Cup match.
     
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    Above is a good look at Kooyong Stadium during that famous 1953 final....tickets are hard to get.
     
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    Here is fascinating footage of the 1951 USA and Australian Davis Cup teams preparing for the cup final, Kramer helping the USA players, and some interesting footage of Savitt in a match with Rosewall, Seixas against Hoad.

     
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    Amazing, Rosewall actually serves two aces against Savitt in this clip!
     
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    Here is some footage of the Hoad/Trabert match directly before the Davis Cup final, a state championship semifinal, and Rosewall/Seixas in the other semi...Hoad won over Rosewall in the final.
    The Twins win the doubles final...WHY did Hopman not continue with the Twins in Davis Cup doubles?

     
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    Here is some footage of the Hoad/Trabert match directly before the Davis Cup final, a state championship semifinal, and Rosewall/Seixas in the other semi...Hoad won over Rosewall in the final.
    The Twins win the doubles final...WHY did Hopman not continue with the Twins in Davis Cup doubles?



    This was the New South Wales championship of Nov.21, 1953.

    Hoad df. Trabert in the semi 6-1, 6-2, 5-7, 7-5.

    Hoad df. Rosewall in the final 8-6, 4-6, 9-7, 10-8.
     
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    Here is some footage of the Hoad/Trabert match directly before the Davis Cup final, a state championship semifinal, and Rosewall/Seixas in the other semi...Hoad won over Rosewall in the final.
    The Twins win the doubles final...WHY did Hopman not continue with the Twins in Davis Cup doubles?



    This was the New South Wales championship of Nov.21, 1953.

    Hoad df. Trabert in the semi 6-1, 6-2, 5-7, 7-5.

    Hoad df. Rosewall in the final 8-6, 4-6, 9-7, 10-8.

    This late 1953 Australian season, culminating in the Davis Cup, prompted Jack Kramer to attempt to sign Hoad to a pro contract for 1954, for Hoad to apparently tour against himself for the world pro title.
    Hoad refused, stating that he wanted to win "a couple of Wimbledon's" before turning pro.
     
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    Here is some footage of the Hoad/Trabert match directly before the Davis Cup final, a state championship semifinal, and Rosewall/Seixas in the other semi...Hoad won over Rosewall in the final.
    The Twins win the doubles final...WHY did Hopman not continue with the Twins in Davis Cup doubles?



    This was the New South Wales championship of Nov.21, 1953.

    Hoad df. Trabert in the semi 6-1, 6-2, 5-7, 7-5.

    Hoad df. Rosewall in the final 8-6, 4-6, 9-7, 10-8.

    This late 1953 Australian season, culminating in the Davis Cup, prompted Jack Kramer to attempt to sign Hoad to a pro contract for 1954, for Hoad to apparently tour against himself for the world pro title.
    Hoad refused, stating that he wanted to win "a couple of Wimbledon's" before turning pro.

    From the footage above, Hoad is clearly in prime form and able to play almost anyone. His form in the doubles match is overwhelming, and why on this form would Hopman ever consider not using the Twins in the doubles, they look tremendous here against Trabert/Seixas, a major blunder by Hopman or whoever made the choice to substitute Hartwig for Rosewall.
     
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    Here is some footage of the Hoad/Trabert match directly before the Davis Cup final, a state championship semifinal, and Rosewall/Seixas in the other semi...Hoad won over Rosewall in the final.
    The Twins win the doubles final...WHY did Hopman not continue with the Twins in Davis Cup doubles?



    This was the New South Wales championship of Nov.21, 1953.

    Hoad df. Trabert in the semi 6-1, 6-2, 5-7, 7-5.

    Hoad df. Rosewall in the final 8-6, 4-6, 9-7, 10-8.

    This late 1953 Australian season, culminating in the Davis Cup, prompted Jack Kramer to attempt to sign Hoad to a pro contract for 1954, for Hoad to apparently tour against himself for the world pro title.
    Hoad refused, stating that he wanted to win "a couple of Wimbledon's" before turning pro.

    From the footage above, Hoad is clearly in prime form and able to play almost anyone. His form in the doubles match is overwhelming, and why on this form would Hopman ever consider not using the Twins in the doubles, they look tremendous here against Trabert/Seixas, a major blunder by Hopman or whoever made the choice to substitute Hartwig for Rosewall.

    Hoad was 2 to 0 against Trabert in 1953, and was 5 to 0 against Rosewall in 1953.
    This probably accounts for Kramer making the pro offer to Hoad rather than to the other top amateurs of 1953.
     
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    Hopman was, strangely, not in charge of Australian Davis Cup again until 1950, with his next win,



    Hitchcock shot the tennis scenes in his film "Strangers on a Train" at Forest Hills during the 1950 Davis Cup Challenge Round at that location.

    The tennis scenes from 1:36,

     
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    Not a bad name - Rex Hartwig. I have read in a German Tennis book of the 50s, that Hartwig had vital claims for the Amateur World Nr. 1 in 1953 or 1954 (along with Trabert and others), when the situation at the top was somewhat unclear, after the exit of Frank Sedgman.
     
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    Hartwig was runner-up to Seixas at Forest Hills in 1954, beating both Rosewall and Trabert to reach the final.
    An injury kept him out of the Davis Cup final that year.
     
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    urban, Hartwig was ranked by Lance Tingay No.5 in 1954. In 1953 he was not ranked at all. No claim for No.1 possible that year.
     
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    I think that the match referred to here is the 1953 Davis Cup match between Hoad and Trabert.
     
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    He may have ranked number one in a doubles ranking.
     

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