The 2023–24 NBA Season

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InsuranceMan

Hall of Fame
I can’t even summon the hate tbh. Tatum I’d like to say I hate but he’s just so corny that it’s hard, he’s not hateable just hugely lame. Everyone else on the team is a really nice guy. Al Horford, Jrue, Derrick White - the absolute perfect role players and vets. Amazing defense and chemistry. And yes, I am happy for Joe Mazz. Joe Maligned no more. Brad Stevens the true mastermind behind the curtain as well. He’s the Wizard of Oz, the moves this off season were pure genius. I fear he may be the new Pat Riley.

I guess Porzingis has that weird allegation from the New York days? Eh. Not worth it. Even Dave Portnoy makes some good pizza reviews. I hate Sam Adams but I’ll crack one for them this weekend. Congrats Boston.
Yeah same on Tatum, bang on. Very corny but I don’t think he’s a bad guy. I’m even happy Big Al got his due even after his taunting of MIA. I strongly disagree with the bolded statement though, but I think that’s evident
 

Kralingen

Bionic Poster
Meanwhile, I can’t deny it, Boston is an all time great team. By every statistical and provable measure, they are a top 15 team in NBA history. Historic net rating, led the NBA in threes, one of the most versatile defensive and offensive schemes possible.

Welcome to the future. Pop 60 threes per game, switch everything, everyone is a 3&D player, you don’t need a star, just play the percentages.
 

InsuranceMan

Hall of Fame
Meanwhile, I can’t deny it, Boston is an all time great team. By every statistical and provable measure, they are a top 15 team in NBA history. Historic net rating, led the NBA in threes, one of the most versatile defensive and offensive schemes possible.

Welcome to the future. Pop 60 threes per game, switch everything, everyone is a 3&D player, you don’t need a star, just play the percentages.
Moneyball? :confused:
 
This is all your fault Ant!

Funny how the dumbest qualifier in sports "since the merger" doesn't apply to #18...

I'm still trying to figure out how adding 4 teams necessitated separate records books. (just admit it was simply a convenient opportunity to erase Wilt's impossible numbers.)

Anyway, most NBA Championships, since the merger:

11 - Lakers
6 - Bulls
5 - Spurs
5 - Celtics
4 - Warriors

As someone that has always hated the Lakers, pretty impressive.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
how many championships now for Boston's four major sports teams since the beginning of the century?...all winning at least one...championship city by far
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
Very happy to finally get a championship win again - though it must be said this year was more about not embarrassing themselves over anything else. That was a bigger threat than any of their competition.

I was at the game last night.

Tatum trying to be KG was very forced and very cringe, but the correct man won the MVP in Jaylen Brown. And it is good to be vindicated and proven right that Brogdon, Williams squared and Marcus Smart were not a good enough core to help the Jays win. Changing it was ballsy - and correct. All the receipts are there in the very first page of this thread, Marcus Smart leaving was my championship.

Certainly don't agree with the pundits trying to peddle this team as some kind of historical powerhouse, but it is nice to finally be rewarded after getting so close for 14 years.

Would have much rather won in 2022 over this but beggars cannot be choosers. Vamos and Bamos.
 

Federer and Del Potro

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You can call me Moriarty if you wish but to me this is just the beginning of the Jays' and Mozzarella trying to beat the allegations. Taking off the homer glasses - the Celtics played a very easy path. All 3 of the teams they beat in the East would have been much more difficult if they were at full bore, and Erik Spoelstra was the only coach worth anything that Mozzarella had to contend with the entire playoffs - and he cannot turn water into wine with a hospital team. Nobody can.

Cavs coach was clueless, they were also a hospital team. Pacers were arguably the best team Boston saw - but Carlisle is clueless. Any coach with an actual brain has Indiana up 2-1 on Boston and who knows what happens after that. Jason Kidd is also a mid-tier coach at best, and what happened to the Mavericks is what happened to Boston in 2022 - the mileage caught up to them. Porzingis still managed to injure himself playing like 5 playoff games - glass man. So if someone had actually pushed Boston I am not convinced it would not have ended any differently to the last ~7 years of the Jays era. But nobody asked those questions.

Things could have looked much different if Indiana or Dallas closed out games they could (if not should) have won - but after so many near misses I don't feel bad about it finally going my way.

That said, I don't think there's any debate between 2022 and 2024 which would have been the more impressive ring. Boston took everyone's best shot from the very first round onward in 2022 - no such case here. But they all count the same I guess.

But I'm not a blind Boston homer that's going to pretend this was some insane conquest.
 
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Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
Smart gone. Excellent.

Maybe I'm out of the loop but do you really think your Celts would be better off sans the Dyed One? The guy's defense/hustle alone is a big net positive and while streaky his perimeter shooting is nothing to scoff at, either.


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No more end of game Marcus Smart situations so yes I consider it a net positive. Dude got Caleb Love syndrome in crunch time.


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TheFifthSet

Legend
You can call me Moriarty if you wish but to me this is just the beginning of the Jays' and Mozzarella trying to beat the allegations. Taking off the homer glasses - the Celtics played a very easy path. All 3 of the teams they beat in the East would have been much more difficult if they were at full bore, and Erik Spoelstra was the only coach worth anything that Mozzarella had to contend with the entire playoffs - and he cannot turn water into wine with a hospital team. Nobody can.

Cavs coach was clueless, they were also a hospital team. Pacers were arguably the best team Boston saw - but Carlisle is clueless. Any coach with an actual brain has Indiana up 2-1 on Boston and who knows what happens after that. Jason Kidd is also a mid-tier coach at best, and what happened to the Mavericks is what happened to Boston in 2022 - the mileage caught up to them. Porzingis still managed to injure himself playing like 5 playoff games - glass man. So if someone had actually pushed Boston I am not convinced it would not have ended any differently to the last ~7 years of the Jays era. But nobody asked those questions.

Things could have looked much different if Indiana or Dallas closed out games they could (if not should) have won - but after so many near misses I don't feel bad about it finally going my way.

That said, I don't think there's any debate between 2022 and 2024 which would have been the more impressive ring. Boston took everyone's best shot from the very first round onward in 2022 - no such case here. But they all count the same I guess.

But I'm not a blind Boston homer that's going to pretend this was some insane conquest.

Welcome back bro. No asterisk here, the Celtics win even with everyone at full strength. Don’t buy other fans cope-attempts. The Mavs were one of the best teams in the league after the PJ/Gafford acquisitions.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
Champions edition. Get it now.
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LMAO


Welcome back bro. No asterisk here, the Celtics win even with everyone at full strength. Don’t buy other fans cope-attempts. The Mavs were one of the best teams in the league after the PJ/Gafford acquisitions.

Thanks man. I will say when it comes to the roster, I am much happier 2024 did it versus 2022. I am in the Boston fan minority of not being a Marcus Smart fan, nor did I care for either of the Williams or Brogdon.

Jrue and Unicorn instead of them? Yep, sign me up. Most happy for Horford though.
 

TheFifthSet

Legend
LMAO




Thanks man. I will say when it comes to the roster, I am much happier 2024 did it versus 2022. I am in the Boston fan minority of not being a Marcus Smart fan, nor did I care for either of the Williams or Brogdon.

Jrue and Unicorn instead of them? Yep, sign me up. Most happy for Horford though.

I won’t be judging Stevens’ decision-making any time soon. I thought the moves were positive but couldn’t have imagined going into the season that they’d work out quite THIS well (over-reliance on the 3, I thought, might sink them)…but I was sold about 30 games into the year. They have a truly unbelievable blend of talent and chemistry.

If the Nuggets don’t fix their bench I predict we’ll see an OKC-Celtics final next year. No other team is as well-positioned for long-term/repeatable success as those two.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
Hahah I mean that comeback was almost legendary. Boston basically had one good shooting quarter in 3 games (G2-4) and still were able to win though. In hindsight the series was never even close.

They definitely had less chances than the Pacers but G3 was the watershed moment for both. Still playing right now if JB doesn't hit that middy
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
I can be quite explosive, especially after some spicy food
That is a practical way of utilizing the laws of physics to propel yourself faster than otherwise possible with just your muscles.

Newton's Third Law of Motion:
"for every action, or force, there is an equal and opposite reaction"
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
@sureshs
You should also adjust how hard you hit using Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion, which affects gravitational pull on things on earth.

Just as the oceans are affected by distance and position to the moon, producing high and low tides, a flying tennis ball is also affected by other large masses in space like the moon, sun and other planets.

Most people do not take this into consideration when deciding how much force to apply to a tenns ball in a match.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
The most remarkable thing about the Celtics outsmarting the rest of the league by loading up on 3&D is that so many other teams didn’t even bother to try this approach.
 

TheFifthSet

Legend
Giddey for Caruso straight up.

What the heck. Great basketball fit for the Thunder. Caruso can be their Derrick White and they now have the best defensive backcourt in the West. Been wanting my teams to pick up Caruso for years. Choked.
 

Kralingen

Bionic Poster
The Los Angeles Podcasters.

This is amazing. Redick is the biggest gas-huffer in basketball but also a fairly decent and over-hated guy so all outcomes are great here.
I think Redick is still the same a-hole he was at Duke to be honest, a cocky, brash, out there guy who works his ass off to be excellent at what he does. And that hasn’t changed in his post-playing career, not really, he still acts like the smartest guy in the room.

To be fair to JJ, Coach K ran him into the ground at Duke and couldn’t design any sort of offense that didn’t involve him running around a billion screens. That guy developed into an all time college player by the time he left school, and honestly he deserved a ring.

So it’s weird because you’re right, he is over hated and I have a lot of respect for him… but I still can never like him, never will, and think he’s a comical hire for a team trying to “win now”.

Not even ruling out them being good, possibly very good, at basketball btw. They just are not ever going to beat Denver or the likes of a surging Dallas, Minnesota, etc. with young teams like OKC, Houston and Memphis also set to take big steps next season. It just seems like a circus for its own sake and I’m not buying it.
 

InsuranceMan

Hall of Fame
Folks should we pack it up and start the new NBA season thread with the start of trades and upcoming coaching changes and such? Not sure how it’s historically done
 
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