The 6.1 Returns

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Oh thanks man! I already ordered and I'm so excited to try it. I usually string my rackets with solinco tour bite with 48 tension or 46 should i string this a lil bit higher or lower?
There's a fair bit of power in the 6.1, go with your 48 first and blast away. If you enjoy control, you're going to absolutely love these frames.
 
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I would suspect you will go lower with the smaller head and denser pattern. You might try the same just for a direct reference.

Yep, I usually string at 50/48 and love how the stringbed feels after a week's break in. When the gut frays is where I seem to enjoy it best - I would guess 42-45'ish.
 
Rgarding string tension i always liked springy and not boardy type of feeling when I hit the racket. but its weird because last time in my 97S i strung it with 48 and 44 and both did not reward me with the feeling that i wanted which is springy and (vibrating). but before at those tension before the restrung it was springy i put it at 46 or 48 also. If any chance do you know what is the exact term because I cant seem to explain it to others. Hehehe
 
Man I Agree 100 % with your lady Statemnt ! You nailed it mildly different is the hardest to adjust too . So agree !QUOTE="moon shot, post: 11408136, member: 743123"]I think most 16x18 users would say the 18x20 is 'boardy' as a con. Also it is a bit tougher to maneuver. Sometimes a racquet that is close to the one you love but just mildly different is the hardest to adjust to.[/QUOTE]
 
Comparing the RF to the 18x20 which is more manueverable and more whippy overall easier to use?
So I hit with the 18x20 in stock form today (stock grip, Sensation strings) and it was good but I didn't love it. It certainly had the maneuverability that I am familiar with from my PSC, HPS and NCode 6.1 16x18, but it felt... lower powered. I guess this is to be expected, that the 18x20 has less power / more control than my 16x18s. It also felt less solid and a little more hollow versus the earlier models I mentioned. But this could be because I haven't added a leather grip to the new racquet yet, which I plan to do this coming week. On all my other 6.1s I use a leather grip plus overgrip. I can say that my slice on the 18x20 was amazing. Didn't notice much of a difference in topspin. Versus the RF97, the 18x20 almost feels a bit flimsy. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but my RF97 (the black one) just feels like it is going to flatten the ball when I swing it. I only had an easy hit today, so had ample time to prepare my shots and did not feel any difference in maneuverability between the RF97 and the 18x20 (I have a OHBH). Maybe in an intense rally the 18x20 which has the same balance point but is lighter can swing faster...but not sure.

So, it will take some time to make a complete comparison. I will say that while the paintjob has a clean look and is good, I wish the red Wilson logo on the throat and the red bands at 3 and 9 were a slightly darker red (a real red - which is the color of the buttcap). The red that Wilson used is sort of pinkish red, kinda gives the racquet a feminine look. And Wilson should go back to glossy finishes. The soft, matte finish of the white paint looks a little cheap in my opinion. Probably just me but I definitely prefer the paintjobs of the PSC, HPS and Ncode.

I feel like I need to get the PSC 25th Anniversary now... but... I have too many damn racquets already...!!!
 
Man I Agree 100 % with your lady Statemnt ! You nailed it mildly different is the hardest to adjust too . So agree !QUOTE="moon shot, post: 11408136, member: 743123"]I think most 16x18 users would say the 18x20 is 'boardy' as a con. Also it is a bit tougher to maneuver. Sometimes a racquet that is close to the one you love but just mildly different is the hardest to adjust to.
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With your " last "statement not "lady" my bad . Damn autocorrect
 
So I hit with the 18x20 in stock form today (stock grip, Sensation strings) and it was good but I didn't love it. It certainly had the maneuverability that I am familiar with from my PSC, HPS and NCode 6.1 16x18, but it felt... lower powered. I guess this is to be expected, that the 18x20 has less power / more control than my 16x18s. It also felt less solid and a little more hollow versus the earlier models I mentioned. But this could be because I haven't added a leather grip to the new racquet yet, which I plan to do this coming week. On all my other 6.1s I use a leather grip plus overgrip. I can say that my slice on the 18x20 was amazing. Didn't notice much of a difference in topspin. Versus the RF97, the 18x20 almost feels a bit flimsy. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but my RF97 (the black one) just feels like it is going to flatten the ball when I swing it. I only had an easy hit today, so had ample time to prepare my shots and did not feel any difference in maneuverability between the RF97 and the 18x20 (I have a OHBH). Maybe in an intense rally the 18x20 which has the same balance point but is lighter can swing faster...but not sure.

So, it will take some time to make a complete comparison. I will say that while the paintjob has a clean look and is good, I wish the red Wilson logo on the throat and the red bands at 3 and 9 were a slightly darker red (a real red - which is the color of the buttcap). The red that Wilson used is sort of pinkish red, kinda gives the racquet a feminine look. And Wilson should go back to glossy finishes. The soft, matte finish of the white paint looks a little cheap in my opinion. Probably just me but I definitely prefer the paintjobs of the PSC, HPS and Ncode.

I feel like I need to get the PSC 25th Anniversary now... but... I have too many damn racquets already...!!!

Thank you very much for the detailed first impression! I hope you could update us as time goes by.

BTW can it be due to different strings than your RF97? Thats why its kinda low powered? Thanks bo!
 
Hello guys! I managed to get the 2014 version and I was surprised as with solinco tourbite 16 and babolat skin feel it already weighs 354g and after I added Wilson OG it went up to 361 more hefty than the RF that i had. Is it really like this? thanks!
 
Hello guys! I managed to get the 2014 version and I was surprised as with solinco tourbite 16 and babolat skin feel it already weighs 354g and after I added Wilson OG it went up to 361 more hefty than the RF that i had. Is it really like this? thanks!
What did your RF weigh? My four ranged from 351 to 366 with overgrips and all. 349 was the average weight for the 2014 blx3 18x20 but remember that is strung and no overgrips or dampener.

This does bring up a good thing to know, many versions of the 6.1 were sold with exceedingly light grips. This 2014 was sold with the sublime grip which is light and not terribly durable it is said to be 13g installed. Babolat skin feel is said to be 14g installed, it is thin but not as light as one might think.

For additional savings you could remove any silicone you find in the buttcap or if you have a one hand backhand you could trim the base grip and/or overgrip shorter. I use a leather grip and saved 6 grams.
 
My RF 97 was 358g without OG. Well it is near just like 4 grams difference but supposed to be 332 vs 340 maybe its due to Wilsons popular QC or because of 18/20?

How can I trim the base grip? originally my plan was to put leather grip in it but since im from Philippines where basketball is life and all other sports are non existent i choise babolat skin feel as what i got was 4 3/8 and what i wanted was grip 2 but i was just wondering why the increase in weight.

Also another question so if I put leather grip the 95 would be overall heavier than stock RF97 without OG?
 
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My RF 97 was 358g without OG. Well it is near just like 4 grams difference but supposed to be 332 vs 340 maybe its due to Wilsons popular QC or because of 18/20?

How can I trim the base grip? originally my plan was to put leather grip in it but since im from Philippines where basketball is life and all other sports are non existent i choise babolat skin feel as what i got was 4 3/8 and what i wanted was grip 2 but i was just wondering why the increase in weight.

Also another question so if I put leather grip the 95 would be overall heavier than stock RF97 without OG?
Have a hit with the 6.1 - weight isn't the whole story. Balance, materials, distribution, beam width etc etc all affect how it feels. Surprisingly, I found that while the 6.1 on paper had a higher swing weight than the RF97 and indeed my earlier 90, how it all came together felt exceptionally wonderful at contact point. You never really know what a frame feels like until you're on the court.
 
My RF 97 was 358g without OG. Well it is near just like 4 grams difference but supposed to be 332 vs 340 maybe its due to Wilsons popular QC or because of 18/20?
Yes, I do think QC is involved. The RF strung average was supposed to be 357g, so yours was a bit under spec (unless there is a asian version as there were with the 90)

How can I trim the base grip? originally my plan was to put leather grip in it but since im from Philippines where basketball is life and all other sports are non existent i choise babolat skin feel as what i got was 4 3/8 and what i wanted was grip 2 but i was just wondering why the increase in weight.
You could try two overgrips only instead of the skin feel, that should drop you a size and some weight.

I would hit with it before you go down this road, but I measured and marked the highest point I touch the grip and cut above that. My weight savings will be about as high as they can since I already had a heavy grip. It isn't pretty with the exposed handle, but it was what I needed.

I agree with @Hydrocella, hit with it and form your own opinions before you start adjustments.
 
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Yes, I do think QC is involved. The RF strung average was supposed to be 357g, so yours was a bit under spec (unless there is a asian version as there were with the 90)


You could try two overgrips only instead of the skin feel, that should drop you a size and some weight.

I would hit with it before you go down this road, but I measured and marked the highest point I touch the grip and cut above that. My weight savings will be about as high as they can since I already had a heavy grip. It isn't pretty with the exposed handle, but it was what I needed.

I agree with @Hydrocella, hit with it and form your own opinions before you start adjustments.
And I agree @moon shot, its important to have that baseline from which you can begin to tinker around with the frame.

My personal advice is find a free wall, grab your racquet and over the 300-800 repetitions you'll get an idea of what the new frame feels like. Top Spin, Under Spin, Serve, Flat strokes, Buggy Whips - a wall is one of the best places to get an idea of what it is you've got in your hands.
 
I'm no guru! I'm a 3.5 hack who has more time to tinker with my frames than to practice on the courts. I love to share what I know, but don't consider me the final word.
Hahaha! It is really fun to tinker with frames actually! Its like finding whats really comfortable for you among these marketing rackets everywhere!

Anyway! I've now rallied with the 95 but for just merely 30 mins as it rained :( But from the first swing damn! Is it just me, honeymoon period, or psychological but it feels really light even at 361g!! Its like I dont feel the weight at all and its very whippy I can swing it so easily and feels really rock solid better than my PS97s! It is strung for me 44lbs. But agian i dont know if its just me or honeymoon period as Hydrocella said ill try about 800 shots so thats about a week! Awaiting your feedback gurus!!!
 
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Hahaha! It is really fun to tinker with frames actually! Its like finding whats really comfortable for you among these marketing rackets everywhere!

Anyway! I've now rallied with the 95 but for just merely 30 mins as it rained :( But from the first swing damn! Is it just me, honeymoon period, or psychological but it feels really light even at 361g!! Its like I dont feel the weight at all and its very whippy I can swing it so easily and feels really rock solid better than my PS97s! It is strung for me 44lbs. But agian i dont know if its just me or honeymoon period as Hydrocella said ill try about 800 shots so thats about a week! Awaiting your feedback gurus!!!
It's a rock solid frame. I can't believe everyone strings at such low tensions, though
 
It's a rock solid frame. I can't believe everyone strings at such low tensions, though
Yeahhh! I really dont know why but it looks better than the RF lol or its justhoneymoon period. Ill observe for a week or two

As for the tension I dont know why but I like this springy feeling when you hit a ball hahaha
 
I have played with my new 6.1s 3 times now. The first time against 3.5 level players and I could do no wrong. The 2nd time against high level 4.0s; I played poorly but won 2 of 3 sets. Tonight, I played against mid level 4.0s and played ok but I still haven't got my timing with this racquet. I had been playing with the PS6.1c. It is a little heavy so I feel the new 6.1s would be the right weight and control type frame for me. The racquet is very manuverable, good control , handles heavy shots well. Power may be a little low but I have it string with TF NRG2-17 @ 54. I still need to get comfortable hitting with the racquet - it's a timing issue for me right now. I may need to change string type and tension also- any suggestions?
 

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@TW Staff, Troy, do you have any more feedback on the new version?
I have found that it feels most similar to the previous version (2014 Parallel Drilling). The new update, has a slightly firmer feel, but still quite comfortable and solid feeling. As I mentioned previously, that my old Six.One 95 racquets are fairly broken in, and may feel a bit more flexible from years of use, and re-stringing. Besides that, I still enjoy the pin-point precision that this update of the Six.One provides.

Troy
 
I snagged a pair of the newest 6.1 used. One is 323 swingweight while the other is 336.

Wilson, keeping the lead tape industry alive since ... when did people start matching racquets?
 
Any word on the 16x18 being re-released?
Wilson should confirm if it's going to happen. Personally it doesn't bother me but if you prefer opens, settle for buying 18x20 and then they launch the 16x18 you would feel bummed.

I doubt it will happen until fed retires because they probably worry that a 16x18 would eat into more profitable RF97 sales.

I would probably choose 18x20, I feel you get the best of both worlds stringing with thin poly at low tension.
 
I love the feel of the 6.1 18x20, but I think my game would be better off with the more open pattern.
Have you tried a 18g> soft poly at low tension?

My experience is you need to be much more careful stringing an 18x20 but if you get it spot on they are awesome - you get everything. You could throw any string in the 16x18 and it should play ok, do that in the 18x20 and you can easily end up with a plank of ply board.

I would try something like 18g tour bite soft at under 50lbs...
 
Hello guys! I managed to get the 2014 version and I was surprised as with solinco tourbite 16 and babolat skin feel it already weighs 354g and after I added Wilson OG it went up to 361 more hefty than the RF that i had. Is it really like this? thanks!
I've stopped weighing my racquets
 
How forgiving are these compared to other 95 inch frames?

Large sweet spots?
6.1's aren't like most players frames which you really have to rip the ball with, they have loads of (controllable) power. Some shots like returning hard serves, putting away volleys are ridiculously easy. Only question is if you can handle the weight.
 
6.1's aren't like most players frames which you really have to rip the ball with, they have loads of (controllable) power. Some shots like returning hard serves, putting away volleys are ridiculously easy. Only question is if you can handle the weight.
The weight wouldn't be an issue. Just mostly curious how forgiving they are. Is the sweet spot pretty big for a 95? Some 95's play a little bigger than others. Others play closer to a 98.
 
The weight wouldn't be an issue. Just mostly curious how forgiving they are. Is the sweet spot pretty big for a 95? Some 95's play a little bigger than others. Others play closer to a 98.
Lead at 3&9 and misshits on full poly are shrugged off in the right direction. Stock it's a big sweet spot as dgoran said but can be a bit belligerent about framed balls.
 
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