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Meles Fan.

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Congratulations to Novak, he has been far better than everyone else this year. And for most of the decade now he has been the man to beat, even on some occasions when someone else was ranked higher so it's a record very well earned. Expecting more great days for him next season too...
And I want to congratulate you on finally getting rid of this clown and his board :D
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Yes, but Novak's SIX is LONGEVITY.

Who cares whether st is in a row or distributed.

Pete had no real competition, just a bunch of inconsistent guys whose form went up and down like jumping fish. Novak had/has to fight off Rafa. Big difference.
Oh lord, I shoulda known that when I mentioned a Sampras achievement, you would come scampering in.

Generally, doing something consecutively carries more pressure than doing it over a long period - you're not allowed a single slip up.
 
Didn't Courier just try to devalue the slam count to make his PR statement for Novak.LOL!

A lot of these media guys (even the ex-pros) can't hide their biases. Courier was rooting for Novak to beat Rafa at the French and expected him to. He made a huge deal about the importance of the slam count before the final. Then Novak loses and he starts ccontradicting himself. He's no better than Wilander as a pundit.
While I agree that Courier gets dodgy occasionally, there is need for THAT.

The greatest insult of all.
 

Beckerserve

Hall of Fame
Yeah, a Becker who only performed consistently indoors, and who had his last bigger year in 1995. In 1996 he won AO (with great luck, won't go into details), then got injured, and that was it pretty much.
Please go into details. But for injury he would have won Wimbledon
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
He's gonna be out for blood at WTF this year. Watch out for him. I just saw some of his match against Coric which was pretty high quality. As long as Djokovic continues to move like this, he's gonna be a huge threat to make more history.
I wonder what is the point of this endless overhyping. Some users just like to bash me, but truth is, I wasn't the one who was hyping Djokovic in RG. It were his fans who after Rome were saying for 3 weeks that he is in the best clay form of his career and nobody is going to stop him.
 

Backspin1183

G.O.A.T.
So does this mean Nadal fans are made of sterner stuff. Past 3 weeks has seen all sorts of abuse at Nadal yet one post not salivating over Djokovic has sent his fan base into seemingly upset mode.
I would understand if you were responding to a negative comment about Nadal or another player. Here they are just celebrating their favourite player getting year end #6.
It seems unnecessary to try to ruin the thread with negative comments when you aren't being provoked.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
I wonder what is the point of this endless overhyping. Some users just like to bash me, but truth is, I wasn't the one who was hyping Djokovic in RG. It were his fans who after Rome were saying for 3 weeks that he is in the best clay form of his career and nobody is going to stop him.
You weren't the one hyping him at RG? Lololol. Where the hell do you think Djokovic Open came from? It was your own invention. Quit the back peddling and trolling, and own it.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
I would understand if you were responding to a negative comment about Nadal or another player. Here they are just celebrating their favourite player getting year end #6.
It seems unnecessary to try to ruin the thread with negative comments
Because some of them are just disrespecting all other players. Reading this forum one might think Djokovic getting destroyed in RG final only somehow proves he is the GOAT even more. It honestly doesn't even feel like Nadal won any slams this year.
 

itrium84

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Oh lord, I shoulda known that when I mentioned a Sampras achievement, you would come scampering in.

Generally, doing something consecutively carries more pressure than doing it over a long period - you're not allowed a single slip up.
It's comparable to winning slams - It's much harder to win 4 in a row (only 2 guys were capable of this) than 4 non-consecutive slams (many ATGs could do it)? I agree :)
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
I would understand if you were responding to a negative comment about Nadal or another player. Here they are just celebrating their favourite player getting year end #6.
It seems unnecessary to try to ruin the thread with negative comments
This is a forum about competitive sport. I don't think it's neccesarily a sign of unfair negativity if people point out that a Year End no.1 berth achieved with half the year lost to a pandemic, isn't neccesarily the achievement it would normally be under regular circumstances.

I don't think Year End no.1 was a big deal this year. I think it is in most other years. That's not trying to rain on Djokovic's parade. It's just trying to be objective.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
You weren't the one hyping him at RG? Lololol. Where the hell do you think Djokovic Open came from? It was your own invention. Quit the back peddling and trolling, and own it.
I had this conversation with @Djokovic2011 a few days ago. I do respect Djokovic, even though I don't like him. 99% of Djokovic fans simply disrespect Nadal though. You REALLY think any normal (read carefully, normal) Nadal fan is going to be upset about him not winning Paris masters when he just won a slam a few weeks ago?
 

victorcruz

Hall of Fame
Wrong answer. You don't care about it because Nadal only has 1 big indoor title. Slam aren't everything. If that was the case, then the tennis season would only be 8 weeks long instead nearly 10 months.
When you wanna be on rushmore of tennis greats, slams are almost everything. The rest is getting yourself ready for slams.

But anyways congrats to Novak. 6 is tremendous achievement.

3 goats, 3 goats, 3 goats baaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
Please go into details. But for injury he would have won Wimbledon
Well, he was down 2 sets in R1 vs a brilliant in-form Johansson, and the referee basically screwed over Thomas on a big point, and then Becker vultured the rest of the match.

Then in QFs he gets to play an INDOOR match, which was almost unheard of at that point in slam tennis. Becker loved indoors conditions, fared much worse in the heat, rain, wind... Kafelnikov would have been far more dangerous with no roof on.

Then he gets WOODFORDE in the semis. Nuff said. That'd be like a Big 3 getting Zimonjic in the semis. (OK, a tad exaggerated.)

Then he gets big-finales pigeon Chang in the finale. Agassi basically dumped the semis vs Chang to avoid playing Becker, or so the legend goes.

Just total shambles, that AO 1996.

So much luck, I was convinced he signed a pact with The Horned One.

He then injured his wrist really badly at Wimby, as ONE of the favourites (not THE favourite as you claim), and it was all downhill from there. So maybe he did sign a short-term pact after all... The 1999 "incident", the divorces, the bankruptcies...
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Because some of them are just disrespecting all other players. Reading this forum one might think Djokovic getting destroyed in RG final only somehow proves he is the GOAT even more. It honestly doesn't even feel like Nadal won any slams this year.
Lol, what on earth are you talking about now?! :whistle:
 

Yugram

Legend
When you wanna be on rushmore of tennis greats, slams are almost everything. The rest is getting yourself ready for slams.

But anyways congrats to Novak. 6 is tremendous achievement.

3 goats, 3 goats, 3 goats baaaaaaaaaaaaa
Nadal, Djokovic and Borg, I would assume?
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
I had this conversation with @Djokovic2011 a few days ago. I do respect Djokovic, even though I don't like him. 99% of Djokovic fans simply disrespect Nadal though. You REALLY think any normal (read carefully, normal) Nadal fan is going to be upset about him not winning Paris masters when he just won a slam a few weeks ago?
99%? Quite the exaggeration. The people being disrespectful in here aren't the Djokovic fans last I checked. I didn't say they should be upset. My point is, focus on the player you like instead of trying to take the shine off another player you don't like.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
7 missed set-points.

Damn, he is gonna be worse than Cilic.
What? Coric really had 7 setpoints? Just what the hell is wrong with the current tour... All the players are choking like crazy against Djokovic. He should have lost so many matches this year, but players are just mentally afraid of him. In 2019 players actually believed they can beat him. And don't tell me he is playing better this year than last year, this isn't true. We saw what happened when he actually faced an opponent who played well.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
99%? Quite the exaggeration. The people being disrespectful in here aren't the Djokovic fans last I checked. I didn't say you should be upset. My point is, focus on the player you like instead if trying to take the shine off another player you don't like.
Well, it doesn't even feel like Nadal won something this year. Djokovic lost 6-0 6-2 7-5 and yet his hyping didn't stop even for one day. Somehow it looks like his fans believe this loss only made him greater.
 
What? Coric really had 7 setpoints? Just what the hell is wrong with the current tour... All the players are choking like crazy against Djokovic. He should have lost so many matches this year, but players are just mentally afraid of him. In 2019 players actually believed they can beat him. And don't tell me he is playing better this year than last year, this isn't true. We saw what happened when he actually faced an opponent who played well.
Admittedly "only" one or two of those were on his own serve. But he had 5 or 6 before Novak had his first.

And he had a 100% chance to win the set after 5-all, or thereabouts, made a ridiculous choice of shot, then again a few minutes later just totally screwed up. He had it in his hands to win it.

The Serbian commentator was funny though..,. "Borna just didn't have... a something... in order to win this point."

You can easily guess what that st is.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Not nearly enough on the return. If not for Coric's DF, he wouldn't have broken in the 2nd set early. Even on his 1st MP, he backed off several steps on Coric's 2nd serve. He kept doing that against Tsitsipas in RG and it cost him 2 extra hours on court.

Also remember last year WTF against Thiem. Played too defensively and lost a tight long match. Result? Getting routined by Federer next round.
I didn't see a lot of the Coric match so I can't say really. I don't think he played a bad 1st match point though.

He wasn't playing great last year at the WTF. I really don't look too deep into those two losses.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Well, it doesn't even feel like Nadal won something this year. Djokovic lost 6-0 6-2 7-5 and yet his hyping didn't stop even for one day. Somehow it looks like his fans believe this loss only made him greater.
I don't know what you are seeing. Nadal is all the media talked about for weeks after his win.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Well, it doesn't even feel like Nadal won something this year. Djokovic lost 6-0 6-2 7-5 and yet his hyping didn't stop even for one day. Somehow it looks like his fans believe this loss only made him greater.
You and the likes of Beckerserve and octogon are just frustrated that Djokovic has achieved such a huge milestone so soon after Nadal won RG(and in fairness it's understandable that you'd want the spotlight to be on your fave a bit longer)but at the end of the day that's your problem, not ours.
 

BackhandDTL

Professional
You and the likes of Beckerserve and octogon are just frustrated that Djokovic has achieved such a huge milestone so soon after Nadal won RG(and in fairness it's understandable that you'd want the spotlight to be on your fave a bit longer)but at the end of the day that's your problem, not ours.
Good milestone but I wouldn’t say game-changing.
Considering the circumstances and the competition, it’s not really a result that impacts the GOAT debate compared to slams.

good milestone though.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
You and the likes of Beckerserve and octogon are just frustrated that Djokovic has achieved such a huge milestone so soon after Nadal won RG(and in fairness it's understandable that you'd want the spotlight to be on your fave a bit longer)but at the end of the day that's your problem, not ours.
It's just that Djokovic fans find a way to turn every single match he wins into some GOAT record. Nadal won his 20th slam, I prefer that over anything Djokovic might achieve this year. I said it last year, and my opinion didn't change-Nadal shouldn't even play WTF, a tournament which disrespects him.

IMO he should just end the season now.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
It's just that Djokovic fans find a way to turn every single match he wins into some GOAT record. Nadal won his 20th slam, I prefer that over anything Djokovic might achieve this year. I said it last year, and my opinion didn't change-Nadal shouldn't even play WTF, a tournament which disrespects him.

IMO he should just end the season now.
Nobody even correlated his win today to slams. What are you talking about? It is beckerserve and his cult who came in here and started with 20-17 and compared that to Djokovic 6 YE#1.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
It's just that Djokovic fans find a way to turn every single match he wins into some GOAT record. Nadal won his 20th slam, I prefer that over anything Djokovic might achieve this year. I said it last year, and my opinion didn't change-Nadal shouldn't even play WTF, a tournament which disrespects him.

IMO he should just end the season now.
Lol, you'd be fuming with him if he ended his season now and you know it.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
Lol, you'd be fuming with him if he ended his season now and you know it.
No, I wouldn't. One needs to be a really strange person to worry about Paris masters when he just won a slam a few weeks ago.

Nadal skipped a slam this year, he showed he doesn't care about records anymore. Djokovic is the one who is playing every 500 tournament he can. He cares about it much more.
 

PeoplesChamp

Hall of Fame
I won't be too big of a buzz kill. I'll just say that it will be asterisked unofficially. No one is going to forget Covid shortened seasons in sports and how events were compromised. Usually winning just an AO and failing everywhere else doesn't result in a YE #1.
 

Beckerserve

Hall of Fame
Lol. There are no slams left in 2020. We'll see what happens next year.
Looking forward to it as im hoping for a calendar slam for Nadal. To win RG in his worse possible conditions the way he did points to a Calendar Slam if he can avoid injury so something to look forward to.
 
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