The 95th Academy Awards

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If I was out of the Oscar loop last year, I'm almost completely unprepared this time as I've yet to see any of the shorts, documentaries or international features. Hell, I haven't even caught up on all the Best Picture nominees yet!

So I gave Moose the go-ahead to create his own thread for this edition, but since he seems uninterested or busy himself I'm giving y'all this one sans much commentary.

But I can share two capsule reviews, or at least one and a half about two of the BP nominees. From a group chat post in late January:

And I'll sneak in a shout-out to The Fabelmans. Yes, I know it opened in 2022, but I didn't catch it till last week and am happy to report that it is Spielberg's best movie in years, in fact his first outing I can recall liking since the aforementioned Minority Report. I'd all but given up on this Hollywood heavyweight after a string of shameless moneymakers like Catch Me If You Can and Ready Player One (though I gotta say the former held my attention throughout), insufferable (re-re-)remakes like Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and West Side Story, politically correct "true" stories like Bridge of Spies and The Post, and ambitious yet muddy histories like Munich and Lincoln... and then he comes up with this gem of a coming-of-age tale. Talk about a most pleasant surprise.

But I'm not surprised that it bombed at the box office - which, BTW, may well be the first time this veteran hitmaker failed to turn a profit in two consecutive outings - because in many ways it's Spielberg's most delirious work. Just about every major character is a f*ck-up (credit cowriter Tony Kushner for the smart script) and even with the jokes and gags you're certain to be reminded of a painful or embarrassing episode in your own childhood, but Spielberg somehow seems to love them all equally which no doubt stems from the fact that he's telling his own story. And there's no daddy figure to come save the world this time. At the risk of sounding somewhat flippant, maybe he needed his parents dead to break free from his crippling superhero complex, which if true bodes well for his future projects.

The whole cast is excellent but it is none other than David Lynch who steals the show as his great predecessor John Ford... and you won't see him until the very end. And this final scene is indeed based on the famous, almost too-good-to-be-true meeting between the young upstart and the old lion (and crank):


Now the (original) trailer:


And from a PM to Moose this past Wednesday:

Have you caught up on all the Oscar nominees yet? I know I won't for the 2nd year in a row, but I can say it's been rather bewildering to see [Everything Everywhere All at Once] pick up so much steam... and I made sure to catch it in IMAX for gawd's sake! My take is pretty much the same as Glenn Kenny's: mildly diverting, inventive slapstick with a timeworn message that wears out its welcome quickly. Fat chance any industry insider would say that out loud, though. I'm all for "diversity" myself but this does strike moi as identity politics gone blind.

And I say that as someone who was more favorable than not towards the Daniels' quirky debut feature Swiss Army Man. We'll see whether my not-so-enthusiastic verdict on their latest is shared or rejected by the Academy tonight, but if a mediocre film like EEAaO wins over Spielberg's very best feature since A.I. it'll serve as yet another reminder that diversity does not equal progress or, more on point, that diversity of epidermis does not equal diversity of creativity.

Here are some of the predictions if you're interested:


Let's hope every member of the glitterati escapes unscathed this time! Enjoy the show, y'all!
 
Loved EEaO as a theatre feature, had an amazing time, if you can't enjoy it you have no imagination left. It's not perfect, I admit, nor is it the type of movie for old curmudgeons... which is exactly why I am so shocked it's cleaning up at awards shows. It has a giant floating CGI bagel at the center of the plot... And the Academy NEVER gives Sci Fi this much of a look.

Weird weird weird.

Tar would be my pick for best picture, Banshees, Fabelmans and Top Gun are also deserving of consideration. Then again I would still be overjoyed to see EEaO win it all.

Feel like Blanchett would run away with Best Actress in most other years as well. Weird that after such a prolific career she's going to go down memoralized in the Oscars for Hepburn in Aviator and then Blue Jasmine, when Tar is easily a better performance than either.

Kerry Condon for BSA by the way. If you've seen Banshees you can't take your eyes off her
 
I was certainly not a fan of EEAAO, I only saw it a couple of weeks ago out of curiousity and I was proved right in my choice not to see it when it came out earlier in 2022. Banshees is easily my pick of the best picture nominees. I'll actually be a bit disappointed if Brendan Fraser doesn't win, it may not necessarily be the best performance of 2022 but that's rarely what it's about anyway.
 
I've had to watch the Oscars on my phone AGAIN. I really don't get why my desktop browsers won't play the same broadcast?! Can anyone help me out here?

Anyhoo Kimmel is just a natural at this thing, they should just sign an extended contract with him and spare them the recruitment drama for 5-ish years.

Missed the 1st hour or so but it looks like All Quiet on the Western Front has been punching up. You can follow the winners here:

 
I haven't seen all the oscar nominated films, but EEAAO was certainly an interesting film.

The slowly changing demographic of the academy members bodes well for a wider variety of films to be nominated in the future.
 
OH HELL YES, Brendan Fraser does it! Thought it was going to Butler
If i recall someone, possible ollinger, posted a review about The Whale in the Last Movie You Watched thread.

Anyone here watched it? Did you like it?

Edit: actually he praised the acting.

Difficult to watch this tormented life, but Brendan Fraser and the rest of the cast are excellent and the dialogue is lively.
 
EEAO and AQWF win, essentially, everything.

Curtis winning BSA is a joke. If you watched the film she was almost there as a joke, Hsu was crucial to the plot and actually acted much better than Curtis side by side. I get it’s lifetime achievement but I have no clue how, or why, she won that.

Editing and Best Supporting Actor were fully deserved wins, Ke Huy Quan was the big winner of the night along with Yeoh, really happy for them.

Best Picture AND Director AND original screenplay to the Daniels, though? Stop it. This film was not that good.
 
This is the same problem the Emmys have now. The combination of large expansion of the voting pool + peak content leads to these lazy sweeps. Blanchett and basically everyone in Supporting Actress were robbed.
 
I know the ratings aren't in yet but if this thread is any indication, nominating two of the highest-grossing films ever - that is all time, mind you, not just last year - will not succeed in bringing back the chunk of yesteryear's audience who the pundits and loudmouths insisted tuned out because the Academy kept ignoring star-studded movies we actually cared about. And if you lived through the rare cultural phenomenon that was Titanic you don't need to be told that neither of the new Maverick/Avatar came close to approximating the 1997 classic's extraordinary grip on the public imagination then and now. (In case you're wondering, its recent 25th-anniversary rerelease grossed an extra $61M worldwide.)

This should hopefully put an end to ABC's (read: Disney's) futile experiments like last year's embarrassing "Fan Favorite" contest or downright offensive "streamlining" like last year's (again!) separate pre-telecast presentation of eight awards which presumably don't matter. The world is too demographically and technologically diverse these days for any awards show to match TV ratings of yore, which may give Disney executives fits but also present welcome opportunities for the Academy to stop pandering to "the crowd" and focus instead on the nitty-gritty of what has allowed this institution to withstand nearly a century of cultural upheaval and commercial constraints. Garnering less than 20 million domestic viewers is just fine as long as you get more people talking and, of course, viewing some of the nominees. After all that's what these awards are for, no?

Guess a few words about the ceremony itself are in order. This has gotta be the speech of the nite:


It's obvious M. M. Keeravani rehearsed that over and over, but huge props to him regardless cuz I would've been completely petrified just to recite my lines... let alone to sing them in front of a worldwide audience of millions! (The much-touted 1B total didn't add up even at the best of times.)

Also I can't be the only one who saw a hint of disappointment on Butler's face as he still graciously applauded Fraser's upset win:


You're still just 31 years old, kid. A handsome lad like you will have more chances as long as you stay out of trouble.

I'll just close this round with a repeat of my earlier thumbs-up for Kimmel. Why the hell would you wanna waste time looking for a new host when you've got the perfect one right here who also happens to be one of your own employees?!

Now a couple replies:

I haven't seen all the oscar nominated films, but EEAAO was certainly an interesting film.

The slowly changing demographic of the academy members bodes well for a wider variety of films to be nominated in the future.

But what kind of "variety" are we talking about? EEAaO is "interesting" alright, but only within the usual genre parameters it is happy to traffic in. Say OTOH what you will about Tár which, as you probably saw in our group chat, I didn't much care for - to quote Nathan Lee again: "Tár is Memoria for people who think The New Yorker is super important" - but I can't deny that it made me at least think about its grand themes of identity, fame and its trappings, cancel culture, etc. So would I take the decidedly arthouse Tár over EEAaO even though I "enjoyed" the latter on my 1st viewing of each? Without hesitation.

This actually reminds moi of Slate's recent "New Black Film Canon" which not only shortchanges African filmmakers but also the pre-1980s which apparently were so racist only 14 of the 75 supposedly canonical films were produced then. My response:

They really need to come up with a better-qualified "special panel" if these supposed experts think bad histories like Malcolm X, 12 Years a Slave and Selma or souped-up Hollywood blockbusters like Get Out, Black Panther and The Woman King belong in the same "canon" as the likes of like Black Girl, Touki Bouki and Killer of Sheep - all of which happen to hail from before the 1980s, apparently something of a black hole for Black art according to the panel. And why am I not remotely surprised that Souleymane Cissé (let alone his masterwork Yeelen) and Charles Burnett's remarkable short When It Rains aren't even mentioned?

Good call, though, on Spike's 25th Hour, probably his best and most underrated feature after Do the Right Thing. And I've always had a soft sport for Carl Franklin's Devil in a Blue Dress, whose seductive 1940s-noir atmosphere is matched by its scrupulous attention to period details and racial dynamics.

I say that's not the kind of variety or diversity we should be striving for. This notion that only certain demographics are capable of understanding certain issues betrays a fundamental mistrust and degrading of the human imagination which drives all great art. That should be especially evident in film where many of the most sympathetic and perceptive portrayals of women or the so-called female gaze have come from men as diverse as Dreyer, Mizoghuchi, Naruse, Cukor, Sirk, Ophuls and Miyazaki.

EEAO and AQWF win, essentially, everything.

Curtis winning BSA is a joke. If you watched the film she was almost there as a joke, Hsu was crucial to the plot and actually acted much better than Curtis side by side. I get it’s lifetime achievement but I have no clue how, or why, she won that.

Editing and Best Supporting Actor were fully deserved wins, Ke Huy Quan was the big winner of the night along with Yeoh, really happy for them.

Best Picture AND Director AND original screenplay to the Daniels, though? Stop it. This film was not that good.

So you've finally come to realize I was right, once again. Took you long enough!

This is the same problem the Emmys have now. The combination of large expansion of the voting pool + peak content leads to these lazy sweeps. Blanchett and basically everyone in Supporting Actress were robbed.

Not sure what you mean by "peak content." I've never bought into the "peak TV" hype and though my viewing frequency has yet to return to its pre-pandemic level I'm sure there were better films in 2022 than most of this year's Best Picture nominees.

Don't think Bassett deserved SA more than Curtis, but agreed on the main point.
 
Until recently, I wouldn't have expected adventurer Rick O’Connell from The Mummy to win an Oscar. :D But probably deservedly so. Congratulations, Brandon. (y)
 
Very, very happy to wake up to the JLC and Yeogh wins.
Truth be told, I'm much more interested in the race than the films this year. I follow Gold Derby et al and it's been fascinating how the predictions have changed, especially in 3 of the 4 acting awards.
Have a fascination of Oscar history.
 
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Until recently, I wouldn't have expected adventurer Rick O’Connell from The Mummy to win an Oscar. :D But probably deservedly so. Congratulations, Brandon. (y)
His best role until this was in Gods And Monsters (1998) opposite Ian McKellan. The film explores the post-peak era of Frankenstein director James Whale’s career. Fraser plays a handyman hired by the aging eccentric and gay Whale, first due to sexual attraction but their relationship morphs into much more.

Ironic that Fraser wins Oscar for playing The Whale when you consider he was very cut 25 years ago to be attractive to the aging gay James Whale.
 
His best role until this was in Gods And Monsters (1998) opposite Ian McKellan. The film explores the post-peak era of Frankenstein director James Whale’s career. Fraser plays a handyman hired by the aging eccentric and gay Whale, first due to sexual attraction but their relationship morphs into much more.

Ironic that Fraser wins Oscar for playing The Whale when you consider he was very cut 25 years ago to be attractive to the aging gay James Whale.
Brilliant film in which Lynne Redgrave was robbed of an Oscar.
 
If i recall someone, possible ollinger, posted a review about The Whale in the Last Movie You Watched thread.

Anyone here watched it? Did you like it?

Edit: actually he praised the acting.
It was OK, it wouldn't make my top movies of the year or anything. It was based on a play, so it pretty much all takes place in one room. Definitely the acting is the best part of it, not just Fraser but also Hong Chau and Sadie Sink gave excellent performances
 
“Naatu Naatu” by composer M.M. Keeravaani and lyricist Chandrabose from S.S. Rajamouli’s “RRR” won best original song, while director Kartiki Gonsalves and producer Guneet Monga’s “The Elephant Whisperers” won best documentary short subject.
 
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Happy for Brendan, he was a big source of entertainment when I was a kid.
With the two Oscars won (Quan for Supporting Actor in EEAaO), Encino Man now has almost as impressive a cast as Fast Times At Ridgemont High. Mariette Hartley can throw in her Emmy for playing in The Incredible Hulk TV series to almost match the three Oscar winners from FT (Penn, Whitaker and Cage).
 
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With the two Oscars won (Quan for Supporting Actor in EEAaO), Encino Man now has almost as impressive a cast as Fast Times At Ridgemont High. Mariette Hartley can throw in her Emmy for playing in The Incredible Hulk TV series to almost match the three Oscar winners from FT (Penn, Whitaker and Cage).
I love trivia like this!
It got me thinking about films that star actors who have received Oscars but not in said film. My first thought was 'Towering Inferno' - Paul Newman, William Holden (Best Actor) Jennifer Jones, Facebook Dunaway (Best Actress ) & Fred Astaire (Hon. Oscar).
The Women - Best Actress - Norma Shearer, Joan Crawford, Joan Fontaine.
And Rosalind Russell Hon.Oscar
 
I love trivia like this!
It got me thinking about films that star actors who have received Oscars but not in said film. My first thought was 'Towering Inferno' - Paul Newman, William Holden (Best Actor) Jennifer Jones, Facebook Dunaway (Best Actress ) & Fred Astaire (Hon. Oscar).
The Women - Best Actress - Norma Shearer, Joan Crawford, Joan Fontaine.
And Rosalind Russell Hon.Oscar
Facebook Dunaway? LOL!

She went to my high school a decade before I was there. The drama teacher that she studied under was also my instructor.
 
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I love trivia like this!
It got me thinking about films that star actors who have received Oscars but not in said film. My first thought was 'Towering Inferno' - Paul Newman, William Holden (Best Actor) Jennifer Jones, Facebook Dunaway (Best Actress ) & Fred Astaire (Hon. Oscar).
The Women - Best Actress - Norma Shearer, Joan Crawford, Joan Fontaine.
And Rosalind Russell Hon.Oscar

7 Oscar winners in How the West Was Won
 
Some people say that Oscars are Finnish. They used to mean something in the past. Since around 2010 they don't.
 
Brilliant. Never seen this film as not a fan of Westerns.
Not your typical Western, HTWWW is more a historical saga of a family with Manifest Destiny as the background. Horace Mann published the theme of the film in a bold headline, “Go West, Young Man!”
 
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Very, very happy to wake up to the JLC and Yeogh wins.
Truth be told, I'm much more interested in the race than the films this year. I follow Gold Derby et al and it's been fascinating how the predictions have changed, especially in 3 of the 4 acting awards.
Have a fascination of Oscar history.

New rules for Oscar eligibility next year will open up a can of worms...

 

Not at all. There may some difficulties but it is a great idea.

Lots of discussion going on now about how the dance performance mimicking Naatu Naatu in which Jimmy Kimmel was escorted out of the stage had no performers of South Asian descent. Some Lebanese-origin guy was used to add some authenticity.

If you think about the many American and British movies of the past that we think are masterpieces, and then think of them in a new light about the absence of any Black character or their portrayal as servants, then you will be forced to think deeply.

Same thing if you ask how many actors of lower castes have been featured in famous Bollywood movies of the past?
 
Some people say that Oscars are Finnish. They used to mean something in the past. Since around 2010 they don't.

This is true for Bollywood awards too. The reason is social media. Awards were the only time you could see actors showing off their dresses and cleavage, apart from in the movies. Now you can see their posts all day long and all the glamor is gone because of that.
 
Not at all. There may some difficulties but it is a great idea
It becomes very artificial this way. Often while watching a recent movie we realise that they deliberately put in a coloured actress as the best friend of the main actress just for this "inclusivity".
 
Same thing if you ask how many actors of lower castes have been featured in famous Bollywood movies of the past?
I thought Bollywood was basically a family thing. Children of actors and producers.

But i have noticed that dark actors and actresses have not succeeded. I can only recall Mithun Chakraborty and Smita Patil.
 
This is true for Bollywood awards too. The reason is social media. Awards were the only time you could see actors showing off their dresses and cleavage, apart from in the movies. Now you can see their posts all day long and all the glamor is gone because of that.
Eye blayme it on 22-minute vids on YT showing elephant ballet inn pinque anne green owtfits NSFWOH when chittluns are present.
 
I thought Bollywood was basically a family thing. Children of actors and producers.

But i have noticed that dark actors and actresses have not succeeded. I can only recall Mithun Chakraborty and Smita Patil.

And incidentally their surnames indicate that both are Brahmins
 
It becomes very artificial this way. Often while watching a recent movie we realise that they deliberately put in a coloured actress as the best friend of the main actress just for this "inclusivity".

It looks artificial because society is not inclusive. Movies must take society inclusive.
 
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