The Ascent To The Throne Begins For Felix Auger Aliassime

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
This seems like a strange analysis to me. Baseline rallies is FAA's main style of play... so I can't see how he's be getting drawn into it anymore than him preferring it. When he's playing well, he would be winning playing the baseline rally game.

Because it's not very efficient. He ends expending a ton of energy in his early rounds, when he has many more weapons at his disposal. If you look at his title wins (all at indoor tournaments, notably), especially in Rotterdam, he was much more aggressive. Meanwhile, he spends many of his early round Slam matches just happy to rally. In his only USO match last year, he allowed Mackie McDonald to step into the court and blast winners, and it was a similar game plan at the AO (against Ruusuvuori) and Wimbledon in 2022.

It's proven to be costly for him as he rarely gets through his first few rounds at majors without dropping a set. He's playing like Rafa out there, when he should be playing more like Federer (neither is a great comparison but you get the idea). Is it ironic that he made it two clay finals playing inside the court in 2019 and yet now only has a 50% win/loss record on the surface even with Uncle Toni on his team?

Look at his stance (even on CLAY) early in his career, look at how deploys the dropshot and how often he finishes points off at the net:


And in Rotterdam:


Now, look at his match at the USO last year, just baseline rally after rally, not sure there's a single slice and few volleys. No creativity, really:



Mackie is an interesting opponent, because he is probably the closest player to Andre Agassi on Tour right now. You don't play baseline ping-pong with Mackie, because he loves it. You can draw him into the net, you can watch his position very closely and drag him out wide, but if you give him anything to tee off on, he just lines it up perfectly.

But he's not the only opponent who can exploit FAA's baseline position and rushed approach shots. Federer was famous for waiting that extra millisecond to ensure he had an open court, but FAA tends to rush through them at times hitting it right back to his opponent.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
This all boils down to a combination of tennis IQ and creativity. It's a problem that many players on Tour seem to face, and they seem to get trapped in never ending baseline rallies. There are so many ways to break up a long rally, without resorting to a desperate dropshot. Take some pace off [is Ons Jabeur the only player on the planet who does this anymore?], or hit it down the middle. In the case of rushing through a swinging volley, let it bounce.

I tend to be more critical of players like FAA because we all know he has a killer a forehand, but he also has very good at volley, and can also mix in the slice, but he has become almost tentative. It would be great to see him add more variety, even if he sticks to the baseline overall. On the flip side, to see a player like Jannik Sinner who is not a natural at net and didn't have the best second serve, adding the serve&volley and committing to his new style is proof that natural talent can be overtaken by effort. His efforts didn't come without taking a step back, but it sure is paying off now.

In terms of shot variation, it will be interesting to see where both of these player's sit by end of 2024.

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Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
That's what I am saying for 5 years about both him and Shapovalov. Neither has had the proper coaches for that. Hire Fed's coaches, say I.

I don't know. Fontang seems to be a good fit for FAA. Both calm personalities. I just wonder if he and Uncle Toni had different strategies for him.

Would have liked it to work between Youzhny and Shapo as well, but guess not.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Disappointment for FAA who has had to pull out of the United Cup with a knee problem. Not a good omen with the Australian Open due to begin in less than two weeks.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Felix Auger Aliassime has been seeded no. 4 for next week's ATP tournament in Auckland. His first opponent will be the winner of the encounter between Daniel Altmaier and Marcos Giron.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Felix Auger Aliassime has been seeded no. 4 for next week's ATP tournament in Auckland. His first opponent will be the winner of the encounter between Daniel Altmaier and Marcos Giron.
Mm ... yes. Myles: "And Félix Auger-Aliassime, who finally got on court at United Cup in the mixed doubles, pronounced himself good enough to go to try his luck in Auckland."
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Myles:
"The Davis Cup merry-go-round begins again in just a month’s time, as Canada hosts Korea in Montreal.


But the 2022 champions, who weren’t able to repeat last fall in Spain, will once again not be at full strength.


If anything, the four-man squad nominated Friday to represent would fill an infirmary ward at the moment.


Félix Auger-Aliassime, who has had some bumps in the road as he tries to return from a knee issue that compromised his 2023 season, isn’t on the list for the tie, which will be played Feb. 2-3, indoors at the Omnium Banque Nationale site’s Stade IGA.
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Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
A straight sets defeat for Felix Auger Aliassime against Daniel Altmaier earlier on Wednesday in Auckland. The first set of the match ended on a tiebreak in which the Canadian had four sets points without, however, being able to convert any of them. At 5-all, 15-40, in the second set FAA had two break points on the Altmaier serve, but again was unable to convert, and lost his serve and the match in the next game. The final score was 7-6(9), 7-5.
 
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Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Tough AO draw for Shapo: Hurkacz R2, Humbert, Rune etc, at least not in Djoko's half :))
And I prefer the Wiki version above of the draw for readability
Similarly tough for FAA: Thiem R1, Medvedev R3
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
The Felix vs Dominic Thiem first-round match in Melbourne has been scheduled fourth and last on Margaret Court Arena on Monday. The Austrian beat the Canadian in their only previous meeting, which came at the U.S. Open in 2020.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
On Monday in Melbourne, Felix Auger Aliassime built a two-set lead over Dominic Thiem in their first-round match, and led 5-2 in the tiebreak that ended the third set. However, the Canadian then proceeded to loss five points in a row and the set. He also lost the fourth set, but recovered to record a 6-3, 7-5, 6-7(5), 5-7, 6-3 victory in just over five hours.

On Thursday FAA will take on the French player Hugo Grenier in the second round in Melbourne. This will be a first meeting between the two players.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
The commentator at 4:45 is me every time I watch FAA: "And what's also interesting about Félix is that he is actually very good..."



i imagine the last part was edited out, but it fits very well. The real question now is, is he good enough for Monsieur Med?
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Overall, just happy to see Félix doing well, especially given the injury. Tactically, he looks pretty sound and he is showing his grit on every point.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
8.5 years of hype, Felix is still only 23 and everybody now knows he has no throne & will never have any kind of throne.
 

AMGF

Hall of Fame
8.5 years of hype, Felix is still only 23 and everybody now knows he has no throne & will never have any kind of throne.
He can (and has) beat pretty much every top players. He can't seem to align good performances long enough to win the biggest tournaments. Especially Slams where best of 5 is hard for players like him that are prone to losing focus.
So yeah not going on any throne anytime soon. But the potential to upset some well seeded players.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Yes, Felix Auger Aliassime played well enough on Thursday to defeat the unheralded Hugo Grenier in four sets, 6-1, 3-6, 6-1, 6-2, and advance to the third round at the Australian Open. On Saturday in Melbourne the Canadian will take on a familiar opponent in the form of Daniil Medvedev, the no. 3 seed. These two players have played six times before, and the Russian has won every match, so FAA will have to try something new seventh time around if he wants to be in with a chance of winning.
 
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Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Still clearly nursing a leg injury, the Canadian fell in straights to Medvedev. However, given his form going into the match, it is possible for fans to take some positives away looking towards the future. He had some chances in the second set, going up a break at one point, with his aggressive play really making a difference. He was not able to consistently play at that level, but hoping for a speedy recovery for Félix to see if he can build off his best form in a while.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Felix Auger Aliassime has been seeded no. 3 at this week's tournament in Montpellier where he will take on home hope Arthur Cazaux in his opening march. The pair have not played each other before.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Good win today over up-and-coming Arthur Cazaux. Lots of aggressive play, but he also maintained his baseline rhythm. Really mixed it up which was nice to see.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
A first semi-final of 2024 for Felix Auger Aliassime after his victory earlier today against home hope Harold Mayot in the quarter-finals in Montpellier. The Canadian won 7-5, 6-1. On Saturday FAA will take on Alexander Bublik for a place in the final. The Canadian currently lead their head-to-head 2-1, but they haven't played each other since October 2022.
 

InvisibleSoul

Hall of Fame
8.5 years of hype, Felix is still only 23 and everybody now knows he has no throne & will never have any kind of throne.
A bit harsh.

While he has been as high as #6 in the world and that he can beat any player in the world on any given day, it's also pretty evident by this time that his game has limitations and it's unlikely he will ever rise to the very top. But hey, being top ten in the world is something, and the arguably the hype was justified. He's lacking the little bit it takes from being very good to great. If things align, he could possibly snatch a few Masters 1000s, maybe even a grand slam or two, but I doubt he'll reach #1 at any point.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Falls swiftly to Zhizhen Zhang today. Needs to quickly turn it around for Rotterdam, he could set the tone for his whole season there.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Great fight from Felix against Rublev. It's a shame he couldn't muster out the win. But glad to see him get the break handily in the first set. He needs to play more like that if he wants to win more titles.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
The good news is that FAA is doing much better in the scorelines by playing closer to the baseline. The bad news is he lost another close one. Losing to Rublev isn't bad, but he really should have had an advantage over Cobolli. I feel like if he adds a bit more variety (slices, more s&v), just to keep his opponent off-balance more, he could close some of these matches out in 2 sets.

Admittedly, judging most of this off of highlights.
 

Musterrific

Hall of Fame
Forget the throne, will FAA finish the year inside the top50?
He's so weird. He played like absolute garbage for all of 2023, except that one random week in October where he inexplicably managed to defend a title completely out of nowhere, and he went straight back to sucking large ever since.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
You may want to see in this podcast the comparison by Robbie Koenig on FAA vs Sinner in terms of approach to evolution starting at about 12:28


Has Felix looked at hiring Robbie? Koenig is right that sometimes you have to accept some losses in order to go forward long term. Felix should use the clay season as his testing ground -- spins and slices are encouraged -- and it's not as if he's defending too many points. If he can revamp now, by the USO he could be in a great place.

Actually, in terms of transition game, he's done better this year. However, I think variety is the spice of life, and FAA needs to find a way to pepper his opponents with the full array of his repertoire. Mix it up more, and these tight matches will be on his racquet, not on his opponent's.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
This point is a big reason why FAA is seeing his ranking slide so much:



He's inside the court after his serve. He hits a meek backhand. Then he falls back and gets locked into a baseline rally where he eventually pushes the forehand long.

It seems to demonstrate a lack of court awareness. Even though his backhand is not the most reliable, he has to hit that as deep into the court as possible to buy himself more time, rush Zverev a little bit. Then he has so many more options. Ideally, he'll get a weaker return back and be able to transition to net. But at the very least, he should be able to press his advantage and stay on top of the baseline rather than being forced to fall back.

Take the risk on the backhand going long or an amazing passing shot from Zverev. At the very least it will make for an entertaining match, compared to pulling punches.
 

3loudboys

G.O.A.T.
Standout issue for me is his backhand needs work. Looks like his spacing and contact are off leading to a lot of weak replies that lack depth. Results in balls that are punished. Even with time he appears to be to close to the ball and looks cramped. Doesn’t give his levers chance to swing from inside to out and loses power and depth … contact can be late. Someone like Nalbandian would be ideal to work with him on that. Novak recognised his serve needed work and got Goran. Smart move 12 slams later.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Standout issue for me is his backhand needs work. Looks like his spacing and contact are off leading to a lot of weak replies that lack depth. Results in balls that are punished. Even with time he appears to be to close to the ball and looks cramped. Doesn’t give his levers chance to swing from inside to out and loses power and depth … contact can be late. Someone like Nalbandian would be ideal to work with him on that. Novak recognised his serve needed work and got Goran. Smart move 12 slams later.

Yes, I think FAA had a better backhand before working with Toni. Hopefully, he can find a good coach who can help him recover it. It could change the course of his career. Look at all the work Sinner put into his net game and how much it has paid off.
 

3loudboys

G.O.A.T.
Yes, I think FAA had a better backhand before working with Toni. Hopefully, he can find a good coach who can help him recover it. It could change the course of his career. Look at all the work Sinner put into his net game and how much it has paid off.
Agree, the smart players acknowledge their weaknesses and get the right coach in to develop it.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Having beaten Luca Nardi 6-2, 6-3 in first-round action in Monte Carlo, Felix Auger Aliassime takes on another Italian in the form of Lorenzo Sonego in the second round on Wednesday. Sonego lost in the second round of qualifying last weekend, but has now replaced the injured Carlos Alcaraz in the main draw. The Canadian leads Sonego 2-1 in their head-to-head.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Disappointment for Felix Auger Aliassime earlier on Wednesday on Monte Carlo, where he was beaten in straight sets by Lorenzo Sonego. After the Italian had won the first set, the Canadian led 4-1 and 5-2 in the second before losing the next five games, as Sonego recorded a 6-4, 7-5 victory.
 

penguin

Professional
Standout issue for me is his backhand needs work. Looks like his spacing and contact are off leading to a lot of weak replies that lack depth. Results in balls that are punished. Even with time he appears to be to close to the ball and looks cramped. Doesn’t give his levers chance to swing from inside to out and loses power and depth … contact can be late. Someone like Nalbandian would be ideal to work with him on that. Novak recognised his serve needed work and got Goran. Smart move 12 slams later.
Actually it was Becker who made Djoko's serve a weapon. Not that ivanisevic did not help, just that Becker did it first
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
A battling three-set win earlier today in first-round action at the Bavarian Championships in Munich for the no. 5 seed, Felix Auger Aliassime, who was taking on home hope and world no. 101 Maximilian Marterer. The match lasted 3 hours and 26 minutes, with each set finishing in a tiebreak.

In the third set the Canadian saved two break points at 0-1 and had three break points at 2-all, 0-40, on the Marterer serve, but couldn’t convert any of them as the German held to 3-2, then broke and held to lead 5-2. However, when serving for the match at 5-4, he was broken to 30 and both players then held to 6-all, with Felix saving one match point on his serve at 5-6.

From 3 points-all in the final set tiebreak the Canadian won four points in a row for a 6-7(5), 7-6(6), 7-6(3) victory, which takes him into the Last 16. He will play Taro Daniel for a place in the quarter-finals. This will be a first meeting between the two.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Great stuff from FAA today. Yes, he lost the first set, but he was aggressive and inside the court, quick to follow short balls in.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
An impressive 6-0, 6-4 win on Saturday for Felix Auger Aliassime against no. 19 seed Adrian Mannarino in second-round action at the Masters Series 1000 tournament in Madrid. On Monday the Canadian will take on the talented 18-year-old Czech Jakub Mensik for a place in the last 16. This will be a first meeting between the two players.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Jakub Mensik retired injured from his third-round match against Felix Auger Aliassime earlier today in Madrid. The Canadian was leading 6-1, 1-0 at the time. In the next round the unseeded FAA will take on Casper Ruud, the no. 5 seed, for a place in the quarter-finals. The Norwegian currently leads their head-to-head 3-1 and won their only previous encounter on clay, also in Madrid, in 2021.
 
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