The Ascent To The Throne Begins For Felix Auger Aliassime

Joseph_K

Professional
Wow, for the second year in a row Felix and his good friend Shapo have been drawn to play each other in the first round of the U.S. Open. The odds against that happening again must have been quite high.
 

vernonbc

Legend
It's so frustrating. These kids like FAA and Shapo need all the points they can get and they wait all year for the big slams only to get a draw like this where one of them will get knocked out. Canadians don't have that many top notch players to cheer for and it sucks to lose one of them first round and then again in the second round. FAA has really had bad luck. If it's not Shapo first round for two consecutive USOs it's Pospisil at IW and then W and then Rogers Cup and then Milos in second round. It's tough to play a good friend at the best of times. :(
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
It's so frustrating. These kids like FAA and Shapo need all the points they can get and they wait all year for the big slams only to get a draw like this where one of them will get knocked out. Canadians don't have that many top notch players to cheer for and it sucks to lose one of them first round and then again in the second round. FAA has really had bad luck. If it's not Shapo first round for two consecutive USOs it's Pospisil at IW and then W and then Rogers Cup and then Milos in second round. It's tough to play a good friend at the best of times. :(
Luck of the draw happened due to Shapo’s swan dive following Miami matched by Félix’s stellar points grab. If both were seeded this doesn’t happen. If both were seeded fairly evenly they wouldn’t meet until well after 3R.

Give Youzhpolov some time. I think their collaboration is going to have some nice results. It’s working in W-S so far but the SNAFU from the rain may leave Shapo drained entering USO.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
I hope Denis wins because I think it's more important for him, than Felix. He needs the points desperately. If he loses in R1, he'll lose all he gained during a week in WS. I hate the point system.
 
I hope Denis wins because I think it's more important for him, than Felix. He needs the points desperately. If he loses in R1, he'll lose all he gained during a week in WS. I hate the point system.
I still can't figure out why you insist on posting about Shapovalov's double performance two weeks ago or Shapovalov's need for points now in Auger-Aliassime's topic. Imagine if I went into Bianca Andreescu's topic to say I was hoping Katie Volynets wins the first round because she needs the points more than Bianca...? How would that look like?

I agree Denis needs it more than Felix, but it's not Felix's fault that Denis has struggled this year. Tennis isn't awarding a match based on who "needs" it more. Felix has had opportunities that he managed to capitalize on this year, something Denis rarely managed. That's all there is to it. It's a sport and may the best player of the two on that particular day win, which is precisely what makes this match interesting! If you are going to post about this match here, may I suggest that you bring up some relevant information regarding Felix's tennis itself rather than implying that he doesn't need points?
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
I still can't figure out why you insist on posting about Shapovalov's double performance two weeks ago or Shapovalov's need for points now in Auger-Aliassime's topic. Imagine if I went into Bianca Andreescu's topic to say I was hoping Katie Volynets wins the first round because she needs the points more than Bianca...? How would that look like?

I agree Denis needs it more than Felix, but it's not Felix's fault that Denis has struggled this year. Tennis isn't awarding a match based on who "needs" it more. Felix has had opportunities that he managed to capitalize on this year, something Denis rarely managed. That's all there is to it. It's a sport and may the best player of the two on that particular day win, which is precisely what makes this match interesting! If you are going to post about this match here, may I suggest that you bring up some relevant information regarding Felix's tennis itself rather than implying that he doesn't need points?
Given that others also mentioned DS in this thread, will you insult and rage on them as well? And I never said that he should win, I said it would be good to win. Good gracious, breathe!
 
Given that others also mentioned DS in this thread, will you insult and rage on them as well? And I never said that he should win, I said it would be good to win. Good gracious, breathe!
I was actually very calm when I wrote the previous post; sure, it came from some level of annoyance over how repetitive these occurrences have been (which go back to further than the past two weeks), but I made sure I had a clear mind before writing. I have really no idea where you see any "rage" in what I wrote. And what insult, exactly? I thought maybe you didn't realize your post ended up entirely about Denis and made a suggestion for future posting. Denis is being brought up here as Felix's next opponent, which I fully acknowledged in the last sentence on my post: "If you are going to post about this match here, may I suggest that you bring up some relevant information regarding Felix's tennis itself rather than implying that he doesn't need points?"

The entire content of your post was about Denis: you hope he wins, he needs the points because he is defending points next week, and you hate the ranking system. That has nothing to do with Felix. If you need to know, I have a preference for Felix's style out of these two players, but I have been as enthusiastically cheering for Denis in the past few years. Nonetheless, it would be equally annoying to me to read in Shapovalov's thread (or any other player's thread for that matter) posters saying they were wishing he would lose just because whoever he is facing next needs the points more. (And as a Felix fan, it would annoy me even more if it came from fellow Felix fans: I'd like to believe his fans are as balanced as he is!)

Sometimes reading you I feel as if in your mind, Denis pales when Felix is doing well, and you are posting as if you wanted to convince everyone that Felix isn't that worthy of the appreciation of the posters here. That may not be what you are trying to do, but it looks like that to me and it just doesn't feel right. I've tried to ignore these posts but there is no forum system that really works in situations like these. I did not intend to point it out every time if it happens again in the future, but I felt you had been insistent enough in the past that it was worth being clearly said. I will definitely correct any wrong information posted here however.
 

vernonbc

Legend
That's quite an article and quite something that such a prominent magazine gave Felix the big headline just before the Open. I know that Felix has a good team and very grounded parents but sheesh, the expectations being put on him at such a young age might be more than even he can handle. Another reason why it's so crappy that he got Denis in the first round. A 200 ranked qualifier would have been a lot less pressure. ;)
 
That's quite an article and quite something that such a prominent magazine gave Felix the big headline just before the Open. I know that Felix has a good team and very grounded parents but sheesh, the expectations being put on him at such a young age might be more than even he can handle. Another reason why it's so crappy that he got Denis in the first round. A 200 ranked qualifier would have been a lot less pressure. ;)
... and that's nothing in comparison to the following: Auger Aliassime, Tsitsipas can become tennis greats - Wilander

The seven-time Grand slam champion Wilander has tipped Auger Aliassime, alongside 21-year-old Tsitsipas, to rival tennis' Big Three by winning 15 Grand Slams each in their careers.

"I think Felix Auger Aliassime," he exclusively told Eurosport.

"He’s most probably the one who has the best chance of doing something that’s extraordinary.

"Somebody like Stefanos Tsitsipas has the chance to be a multiple Grand Slam winner but of the ones that we know of now, winning 15 Slams, I would say that it’s one of the two of them of the ones that are playing now.
" There might be 16, 17-year-olds out there but I think they both have great attitude and can both play on all the different surfaces."
He added: "Physically they are absolute specimens and mentally they have an unbelievably good attitude.

"Tennis-wise they are good enough but they have the physical and the mental parts that you need to have to even want to think that far.

"So yes, there is a possibility [they could compete with the Big 3]."
Stay away from the Internet, Felix!!!!! :eek: I would be over the moon with one GS title, but he has to find a way to manage expectations like these. Players before the early 2000 were lucky the Internet didn't exist or wasn't what it's like now. Who else has become a sensation at 14 years old from a YouTube video?!
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I like Felix, but I have serious doubts he even gets 5 Slams, let alone 15. 5 is a pretty tall task, as it is.
Baby steps...he needs to win a final of any kind after getting in three of them and losing in straight sets each time.

Still, fedr struck out three times before winning Milan’01 six months before turning 20. Then it was another two years and change before the breakthrough slam at Wimby’03.

Only time will tell.

Wilander also lacks imagination and drive to do some digging beyond ATP events and slams he covers. There will be some new blood just behind Félix and three or more years behind Tsits and slightly older Medvedev (not even mentioned???) so that the next decade is going to resemble the 90s with a lot of different players winning slams. A duopoly or a triumvirate isn’t going to happen.

Sinner that I am, I wouldn’t mind if there’s a monopoly though! :-D
 

James P

Professional
Baby steps...he needs to win a final of any kind after getting in three of them and losing in straight sets each time.

Still, fedr struck out three times before winning Milan’01 six months before turning 20. Then it was another two years and change before the breakthrough slam at Wimby’03.

Only time will tell.

Wilander also lacks imagination and drive to do some digging beyond ATP events and slams he covers. There will be some new blood just behind Félix and three or more years behind Tsits and slightly older Medvedev (not even mentioned???) so that the next decade is going to resemble the 90s with a lot of different players winning slams. A duopoly or a triumvirate isn’t going to happen.

Sinner that I am, I wouldn’t mind if there’s a monopoly though! :-D
Honestly, this is ideal to me. This Big 3/Big 4 dominance era gets a bit boring after awhile. I like when a player or two is dominant for 3-5 years and then the next big thing comes up.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
I was actually very calm when I wrote the previous post; sure, it came from some level of annoyance over how repetitive these occurrences have been (which go back to further than the past two weeks), but I made sure I had a clear mind before writing. I have really no idea where you see any "rage" in what I wrote. And what insult, exactly? I thought maybe you didn't realize your post ended up entirely about Denis and made a suggestion for future posting. Denis is being brought up here as Felix's next opponent, which I fully acknowledged in the last sentence on my post: "If you are going to post about this match here, may I suggest that you bring up some relevant information regarding Felix's tennis itself rather than implying that he doesn't need points?"

The entire content of your post was about Denis: you hope he wins, he needs the points because he is defending points next week, and you hate the ranking system. That has nothing to do with Felix. If you need to know, I have a preference for Felix's style out of these two players, but I have been as enthusiastically cheering for Denis in the past few years. Nonetheless, it would be equally annoying to me to read in Shapovalov's thread (or any other player's thread for that matter) posters saying they were wishing he would lose just because whoever he is facing next needs the points more. (And as a Felix fan, it would annoy me even more if it came from fellow Felix fans: I'd like to believe his fans are as balanced as he is!)

Sometimes reading you I feel as if in your mind, Denis pales when Felix is doing well, and you are posting as if you wanted to convince everyone that Felix isn't that worthy of the appreciation of the posters here. That may not be what you are trying to do, but it looks like that to me and it just doesn't feel right. I've tried to ignore these posts but there is no forum system that really works in situations like these. I did not intend to point it out every time if it happens again in the future, but I felt you had been insistent enough in the past that it was worth being clearly said. I will definitely correct any wrong information posted here however.
Good gracious, breathe
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
@OutOfBounds , please do the prudent thing and just put @prairiegirl on ignore. I’m frankly quite sick of this flame war and she’s not gonna desist. I’m doing the recommended action myself bcoz she has nothing constructive to add to conversation here and very little in the Shapo thread too.
 
@OutOfBounds , please do the prudent thing and just put @prairiegirl on ignore. I’m frankly quite sick of this flame war and she’s not gonna desist. I’m doing the recommended action myself bcoz she has nothing constructive to add to conversation here and very little in the Shapo thread too.
No worries. ;) The forum seems to have been upgraded anyway so I don't think the threads could become as confusing to me as they used to. That should work well enough for me.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
The entire content of your post was about Denis
I really do see the point you're making, but in fairness, Felix is often mentioned in the Denis Fan Thread as well. There's plenty of remarks about Denis over there, all the time. It's unavoidable because they're both young, both Canadians and both are friends. And it's possible to be fans of both players and many of us are. But at least at this point in their careers, comparisons and discussions about them both in tandem is to be expected. As their careers evolve, most of us will choose to be either a Felix fan or a Denis fan, but right now, when neither have won any events, it's normal to love them both. I do! :)

But anything negative about Felix in this particular Forum isn't cool to post, agreed.
 
I really do see the point you're making, but in fairness, Felix is often mentioned in the Denis Fan Thread as well. There's plenty of remarks about Denis over there, all the time. It's unavoidable because they're both young, both Canadians and both are friends. And it's possible to be fans of both players and many of us are. But at least at this point in their careers, comparisons and discussions about them both in tandem is to be expected. As their careers evolve, most of us will choose to be either a Felix fan or a Denis fan, but right now, when neither have won any events, it's normal to love them both. I do! :)

But anything negative about Felix in this particular Forum isn't cool to post, agreed.
Yes, I understand what you are saying. I don't think your point and the point I was making are mutually exclusive. :) It's just that it doesn't make the topics interchangeable, but from what I read you see that as well. ;) Some random comments belong to a specific thread. Others with more substance are fine in either, even criticisms.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
Yes, I understand what you are saying. I don't think your point and the point I was making are mutually exclusive. :) It's just that it doesn't make the topics interchangeable, but from what I read you see that as well. ;) Some random comments belong to a specific thread. Others with more substance are fine in either, even criticisms.
@OutOfBounds , please do the prudent thing and just put @prairiegirl on ignore. I’m frankly quite sick of this flame war and she’s not gonna desist. I’m doing the recommended action myself bcoz she has nothing constructive to add to conversation here and very little in the Shapo thread too.
Well, for the sake of how communications should be, I apologize if I've been unconstructive, unhelpful, frustrating, or whatever. I only post how I feel, not what I'm thinking. Something to watch for the future. Again, I'm sorry.
 

Joseph_K

Professional
Although Felix played poorly in Montreal and Cincinnati, he has to be favourite on his form of the last six months during which he has lost his first singles match in only two of fifteen tournaments.
 

InvisibleSoul

Hall of Fame
Hmm, interesting. Shapo is slowly becoming even a stronger favorite according to the bookies.

They were even at 1.90 each yesterday. This morning it went to 1.80 / 2.00 in favor of Shapo, and now it's at 1.72 / 2.10.
 

Max G.

Legend
Wow. Bookies must have known something we didn’t, because never in a million years would I have bet on “Félix barely puts up resistance and loses in three.”
 

Beacon Hill

Hall of Fame
Felix is home in Quebec City working on his serve. I hope he can make the necessary adjustments and pick up some points in Asia when most of the rest of the tour is tired and looking forward to the season ending.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Felix is home in Quebec City working on his serve. I hope he can make the necessary adjustments and pick up some points in Asia when most of the rest of the tour is tired and looking forward to the season ending.
I wonder how many days he has to spend in Monte-Carlo to maintain his tax haven status???
 
Felix is home in Quebec City working on his serve. I hope he can make the necessary adjustments and pick up some points in Asia when most of the rest of the tour is tired and looking forward to the season ending.
I'm a bit confused. He was doing some sort of clinic with 5 to 10 years old children, then played a bit with some other people to raise money for the academy now owned by his father to develop young players. This was a one day even that had been planned for a long time. I suppose he might have trained and worked on his serve as well, and his coach Guillaume Marx took part in the event, but it doesn't look like he goes very often at his father's house in Quebec City. His usual North American home would be his mother's place near the national training center in Montreal.
 

Beacon Hill

Hall of Fame
I'm a bit confused. He was doing some sort of clinic with 5 to 10 years old children, then played a bit with some other people to raise money for the academy now owned by his father to develop young players. This was a one day even that had been planned for a long time. I suppose he might have trained and worked on his serve as well, and his coach Guillaume Marx took part in the event, but it doesn't look like he goes very often at his father's house in Quebec City. His usual North American home would be his mother's place near the national training center in Montreal.
Yes, Marx was also there. I believe you are right that he doesn't spend much time in Quebec City anymore. I hope he works almost exclusively on his serve for the next while, because it is the biggest thing holding him back right now.
 
Yes, Marx was also there. I believe you are right that he doesn't spend much time in Quebec City anymore. I hope he works almost exclusively on his serve for the next while, because it is the biggest thing holding him back right now.
I'm sure that's his priority, but I wouldn't be surprised if it still took some time before we see a significant difference. His struggles on serve probably cost him an earlier entry into the top 100, as well. I'm not going to hold my breath for 6 months to a year. If it clicks sooner, that will be fantastic. I'm confident he'll get there one day.
 

speedysteve

Legend
I wonder how many days he has to spend in Monte-Carlo to maintain his tax haven status???
This even has a sports person section


Not sure about the details of the agreement with the EU though..

Then there's this;
All foreigners officially residing in Monaco and people with the Monegasque nationality can benefit from zero personal income tax regime. ... The Principality of Monaco doesn't levy capital gains tax nor wealth tax. Inheritance tax and gift tax are payable, but only with regard to assets situated in Monaco.

I'm sure Felix has paid for good advice.
 
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