The ATP rankings are a sham

aman92

Hall of Fame
Federer has barely played 10 matches all year and hardly any last year and yet is still somehow ranked 9th. He is 61 in the live race and yet due to this COVID induced mockery, finds his ranking protected.

How is ATP still justifying to continue with this sham? Would the methodology have been modified much earlier if it wasn't benefiting Fed immensely?
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Actually they should have converted the ranking into two years for 2020-21 and should have gone back to one year from the 2022.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
Federer has barely played 10 matches all year and hardly any last year and yet is still somehow ranked 9th. He is 61 in the live race and yet due to this COVID induced mockery, finds his ranking protected.

How is ATP still justifying to continue with this sham? Would the methodology have been modified much earlier if it wasn't benefiting Fed immensely?
He doesn’t give a sh1t about his ranking. It’s not about him or because of him.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Only fair since the guy is so perpetual, no? Meanwhile his most devoted minions have been telling us for over a year now that Djovak's weeks should be asterisked since HE benefited from the covid rankings.
 

Visionary

Professional
ATP hired a bunch of mugs to invent covid and save fedr's ranking.
Not about the rankings or ATP but population control. This wouldn't've come from the west per se but from some of the money and power thirsty "philantropists" who want to take on a lot more than just the ATP.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
let me say this again.......if you are a top 10 player and you worry about ranking, then you do not deserve your spot in the top 10.......rankings do not mean much at the top of the sport.......once we near players outside top 100, that is when it starts to matter as they would need to be ranked sufficiently higher to qualify for grandslams.......what is the use of being world no.1 or 2 or 20 or 30? nothing.......you still have to beat 7 players to win grandslam........
 

OhYes

Legend
We all know if Fed was out of top 20 which he deserves, his retirement would be faster than a bullet.
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
let me say this again.......if you are a top 10 player and you worry about ranking, then you do not deserve your spot in the top 10.......rankings do not mean much at the top of the sport.......once we near players outside top 100, that is when it starts to matter as they would need to be ranked sufficiently higher to qualify for grandslams.......what is the use of being world no.1 or 2 or 20 or 30? nothing.......you still have to beat 7 players to win grandslam........
Aren't you more likely to get tougher opposition in earlier rounds if you're ranked lower? They will also put your matches on outside courts at the slams. High ranked players get guaranteed play on the main courts.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
i think his ranking reflects how bad everyone else is too..
he takes over a year off and does better at wimbedon
than zverev & tsitsipas??
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
Aren't you more likely to get tougher opposition in earlier rounds if you're ranked lower? They will also put your matches on outside courts at the slams. High ranked players get guaranteed play on the main courts.
Like Coco Gauff?
 

Visionary

Professional
let me say this again.......if you are a top 10 player and you worry about ranking, then you do not deserve your spot in the top 10.......rankings do not mean much at the top of the sport.......once we near players outside top 100, that is when it starts to matter as they would need to be ranked sufficiently higher to qualify for grandslams.......what is the use of being world no.1 or 2 or 20 or 30? nothing.......you still have to beat 7 players to win grandslam........
Aren't you more likely to get tougher opposition in earlier rounds if you're ranked lower? They will also put your matches on outside courts at the slams. High ranked players get guaranteed play on the main courts.
I really hope you, @Start da Game will not have to "say this again" as pro athletes work hard for their rankings in tennis and many other sports too. Rankings may also affect players' sponsorships, endorsements and a bit more beyond our understanding here.

Bigots ignore some top players' unreasonable benefits; the ones who actually play the sport well, who have participated in competitions actively and who truly care about the best tennis can see that there is something wrong with the ranking system.
 
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Fedinkum

Legend
It appears your beef is with Federer, not the point system. :happydevil:

But i do hate the protecting your points idea because the ranking does not reflect the current form of a player.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
Aren't you more likely to get tougher opposition in earlier rounds if you're ranked lower? They will also put your matches on outside courts at the slams. High ranked players get guaranteed play on the main courts.
that used to be the case during playing days of sampras and those before him........tennis is a top heavy sport these days with baseline contests all the time.......no matter what rank you are more often than not you will have to go through top 1 or 2 in the semis or finals to win the whole thing.......outside courts is no big deal, they all practice on outside courts most of the times.......
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
I really hope you, @Start da Game will not have to "say this again" as pro athletes work hard for their rankings in tennis and many other sports too. Rankings may also affect players' sponsorships, endorsements and a bit more beyond our understanding here.

Bigots ignore some top players' unreasonable benefits; the ones who actually play the sport well, who have participated in competitions actively and who truly care about the best tennis can see that there is something wrong with the ranking system.
that is the problem of sponsors not being literate about the ranking system, they got wrong players advertising their products.......
 

Sudacafan

Talk Tennis Guru
Another proof is that Fed never got sick, he was already vaccinated when it started.
Of course, and Fed helped create covid, which got Djokovic ill, as a revenge for what happened in the Wimbledon 2019 final.
Djokovic who knows about all this, in return, does not want to take the vaccine just to show Fed that he’s very macho, and his dirty tactics didn’t affect him.
 
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