The best Wilson Six One 95?

donquijote said:
Same string. Feel was bad as I mentioned, stiff but not crispy stiff.
Initial 95S version didn't have 'Spin' logo in the butt cap.
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Are you sure it's the same string? Same tension? Strung in the same string machine? Same stringer?

Do you have both rackets right now in your invertory or have you played with one of them years ago? Maybe you have forgotten the feel.
 
TUPAC_RIP said:
Are you sure it's the same string? Same tension? Strung in the same string machine? Same stringer?

Do you have both rackets right now in your invertory or have you played with one of them years ago? Maybe you have forgotten the feel.
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Yes, yes, no. I am not a pro, so a little difference shouldn't make a huge deal.
I have them both, yes. Tried many times, didn't make my mind up after one time.
 
Does anyone know if/when Wilson intends to re-issue a 6.1 racquet (probably the Classic)? The 18x20 25th anniversary model is being sold in Europe so would make sense for there to be a re-issue in the US as well but I haven't heard anything.
 
I hope Wilson just comes out with a new Six One instead of a reissue. I find that reissues never feel the same as the original and are a disappointment. It makes no sense that Wilson would discontinue a model that has been their flagship model for so long. It would be like Porsche discontinuing the 911. No other player's racquet has offered a better all around performance IMO and it shows that even the ATP tour players prefer the 6.1 over the PS97. I got a chance to try the newest 6.1 that came out in 2014 and I liked it a lot. It shows how much R&D went into the 6.1 line over the 20+ years.
 
I've heard otherwise. Many people have said the reissue feels hollow in the handle and just doesn't feel as solid and stable. And I've only ever used 16x18 6.1's since that's what I've used since my high school team days in the 90's.
 
For a weekend rec player like me, it feels the same, and I regret buying it (200 EUR) when I could buy it used. ..but the curiosity was stronger.
The higher your tennis level, the more sensitive you will be about minimal differences. Perhaps thats the case of many TT forum members.

But im not Del Potro and for me is the very same racquet with a 25an writting and leather grip
 
SC in MA said:
I'm a long time 6.1 95 (16x18) user (the 12oz + models), beginning with the HyperPro Staff version. Here's my order of preference:

1) nCode. I like everything about this version except that it now feels slightly heavy to me. So I don't use it much any more. Also, I only have one of it and its pretty worn out ! I found that it has a great combo of power and control, along with feel, touch and especially comfort.

2) 2010 BLX. This is my current go-to racket. For me it's the closest racket to the nCode version that I've found. However, I find that it feels and swings slightly lighter than the nCode, which is a big plus. And it still has a great combo of power and control, along with feel, touch and comfort. I was very happy that I was able to find a replacement for the nCode version.

3) 2012 BLX. This one feels more like an improved K version to me(better control and comfort) than an upgraded 2010 BLX. I know others have said that it feels lighter than the 2010 BLX, but it's the opposite for me. It feels and swings heavier than the 2010 BLX to me. Also, the balance doesn't feel quite the same as the 2010 BLX. I use this version for matches I don't care too much about and as my backup to the 2010 BLX. (I only have one of each racket). I find it has more power and less control than the 2010 BLX, so I string it tighter than the 2010 BLX to harness the power.

4) HyperPro Staff. I liked this racket a lot when I was using it prior to the nCode. I thought it was a great control racket but not as comfortable and powerful as the nCode. And it felt heavier to me than the nCode.

5) Kfactor. I didn't like this one at all compared to the others. It had great power, but I couldn't control it. And I didn't think it was comfortable. I believe it gave me arm problems which is one of the reasons I didn't play with it more, although the lack of control with it was a big problem for me. I do know a couple of hard hitters who loved this version. It just wasn't for me.

I'm really looking forward to reading the feedback of long time 6.1 95 users to the latest version (2013), especially those who favor the nCode and 2010 BLX. I'll probably buy one eventually unless the long time users are really negative about it. I'm really hoping it plays closer to the nCode and 2010 BLX than the other versions.
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This is my experience as well. The nCode was one of the best iterations imo. A point of difference for me was that I didn't like the BLX's. It might be just that I never had them set up right.
 
!<-_->! said:
Hit with my 2014 6.1 16x18 yesterday. The launch angle and power level compared to my Youtek Prestige MP is ridiculously high. Couldn't keep the balls in at all. What are you guys stringing at and with what? One of mine was strung w/ Lux ALU Fluro at 48 and the other a black twisted poly at 55.
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Babolat Pro Hurricane (1.30 mm), DT 38 kp/cm.

I've played a couple of different string settings over the years but, IMO, control comes mostly with situational adjustment your backswing (big vs compact). And yes, the Prestige MP is a dead stick compared to the 6.1 95.
 
meltphace 6 said:
Babolat Pro Hurricane (1.30 mm), DT 38 kp/cm.

I've played a couple of different string settings over the years but, IMO, control comes mostly with situational adjustment your backswing (big vs compact). And yes, the Prestige MP is a dead stick compared to the 6.1 95.
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Yep. Or just most any 18x20 pattern compared to the Six One 16x18. As much as I would've loved to go back hitting with them, I just can't keep the ball in. Anyone wanna take them off my hands? :D
 
I was checking TT reviews for another racquet and came across with this review of 95S:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...bs-racquet-reviews.464942/page-5#post-8310878

It looks like we share similar sentiments about the second edition of 95S. Too bad they didn't keep making the original one.

"Feel on the racquet was very tinny though and didn’t resemble the solidness of the prior version at all. It felt a lot more like a Babolat (a feel I really don’t care for) with a hollowness to it"

"The feel of the frame at the net was unpleasant though, with a tinny-ness to it I just didn’t like. It made the sweet spot feel small."

"The tinny-ness though was off-putting to me particularly when I think with a poly, which the “S” pattern was designed for, would improve the racquet a lot. With the hollow feeling, there’s no way I would play with a full bed of the stuff. I think it would feel too harsh. While I liked the on-paper changes to the racquet (pattern and weight) I think they traded it for worse feel and performance than the BLX version."
 
I'm looking for the BLX six.one 95 309 g. Does any one knows were can I find a pair of them new or used? Also, which other racket might have the same characteristics as this one?
 
gino said:
Bad, bad move. Wilson is wilson, don't try and emulate others
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Agree. I think circa 2008-2014 Wilson may have been concerned about Babolat. They are definitely back in front now, though. Wilson is pioneering new ideas and setting current racquet retail trends that are uniquely Wilson. The Serena anniversary and Federer lines seem to have achieved a great feat of appeasing racquet nerds while also selling in enormous numbers within conventional tennis consumer markets. And I am not hating their renewed commitment to heritage lines, either. The only failure from them seems to be the overpriced and underperforming FST lines.
 
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Thought I'd drop in and share my racquet journey, as this forum is a big part of why I've become a member of the Six One club — I don't think I'll be leaving any time soon. Thanks TT!

I played with a stock Babolat Pure Storm GT (non tour version) for about 6 years, and enjoyed it, but as I Improved I noticed the lack of weight and stability.

After seeing the glowing reviews for the Pure Strike P17, I demoed one and loved it so purchased. Within a couple of weeks I had tendonitis/tennis elbow. There is something about the vibrations from off centre hits with that racquet which really agitate my elbow.

So I put it away and went back to the Pure Storm, but added lead to bring the swingweight up to match the Pure Strike. This transformed the Pure Storm, and I could not imagine playing it without lead now. But I still pined to hit with something different.

So I sold the Pure Strike and replaced it with something a bit left field, an n.Code six one 95 in 18×20 pattern. Just a few shots with this racquet tells you everything you need to know about the importance of having proper technique. If you swing loose and fast, you’re gonna have a good time. If you are late and arm the ball, you’re gonna see that ball land embarrassingly short.

The six one is a racquet that puts out exactly what you put in, the control is on another level to anything I’ve felt before. You can swing bigger because you know where the ball is going. Despite weighing in at a chunky 357g when all set up, this thing feels just as manoeuvrable as my leaded up Pure Storm. The heft also means you don’t feel any shocks going into your arm.
Serves have real venom.

I have now bought a 2010 BLX Six One as well, but it doesn't feel as good as the nCode. Plan to get a few more nCodes now. My game is coming on leaps and bounds using this racquet with the extreme precision and detailed feedback it provides.

Not sure why I thought a 95 sq in frame would be so much more difficult to play than a 98, after a few weeks, I can't notice a difference. I did frame a few balls at the start, I’ll admit!

What a shame Wilson discontinued this legendary line!
 
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McGradey said:
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Thought I'd drop in and share my racquet journey, as this forum is a big part of why I've become a member of the Six One club — I don't think I'll be leaving any time soon. Thanks TT!

I played with a stock Babolat Pure Storm GT (non tour version) for about 6 years, and enjoyed it, but as I Improved I noticed the lack of weight and stability.

After seeing the glowing reviews for the Pure Strike P17, I demoed one and loved it so purchased. Within a couple of weeks I had tendonitis/tennis elbow. There is something about the vibrations from off centre hits with that racquet which really agitate my elbow.

So I put it away and went back to the Pure Storm, but added lead to bring the swingweight up to match the Pure Strike. This transformed the Pure Storm, and I could not imagine playing it without lead now. But I still pined to hit with something different.

So I sold the Pure Strike and replaced it with something a bit left field, an n.Code six one 95 in 18×20 pattern. Just a few shots with this racquet tells you everything you need to know about the importance of having proper technique. If you swing loose and fast, you’re gonna have a good time. If you are late and arm the ball, you’re gonna see that ball land embarrassingly short.

The six one is a racquet that puts out exactly what you put in, the control is on another level to anything I’ve felt before. You can swing bigger because you know where the ball is going. Despite weighing in at a chunky 357g when all set up, this thing feels just as manoeuvrable as my leaded up Pure Storm. The heft also means you don’t feel any shocks going into your arm.
Serves have real venom.

I have now bought a 2010 BLX Six One as well, but it doesn't feel as good as the nCode. Plan to get a few more nCodes now. My game is coming on leaps and bounds using this racquet with the extreme precision and detailed feedback it provides.

Not sure why I thought a 95 sq in frame would be so much more difficult to play than a 98, after a few weeks, I can't notice a difference. I did frame a few balls at the start, I’ll admit!

What a shame Wilson discontinued this legendary line!
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Keep eyes out for the 18x20 K.Six-One re-release. Rumor has it.....
 
Not sure how I missed this thread all these years, but I'm going w/ the Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 Stretch. It was 18x20, and was a beast. Back then I was still in my 19g Kevlar/17g gut mode, strung around 60/64. I wonder how it would do in a gut/poly mix?

Of course, at over 12oz my arm would probably fall off if I tried swinging that thing today...
 
Fun coincidence: I’m pretty firmly a 93P 18x20 user now, but I got out my n 6.1 95 16x18 for an informal hit a couple days back. So nostalgic! It’s certainly not easy to swing, but it hits a great ball if you’re precise and locked in. I’m definitely eyeing the k6.1 95 reissue, but I probably won’t commit, since I wasn’t too keen on the k6.1 95 when it came out and I’m still grooving with the 93P.
 
shaysrebelII said:
Fun coincidence: I’m pretty firmly a 93P 18x20 user now, but I got out my n 6.1 95 16x18 for an informal hit a couple days back. So nostalgic! It’s certainly not easy to swing, but it hits a great ball if you’re precise and locked in. I’m definitely eyeing the k6.1 95 reissue, but I probably won’t commit, since I wasn’t too keen on the k6.1 95 when it came out and I’m still grooving with the 93P.
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The K was far from the best feely/touchy bat but those things could launch moab forehands. Don't think I will be able to resist if they are a decent price.
 
I still use the Ncode 6.1. Do any of you agree that the Ncode plays much lighter/maneuverable than its swing weight suggests? Other 6.1s I’ve played with (Kfactor, BLX) play a bit sluggish in my opinion.
 
1) nCode 6.1 95 16x18 standard
2) HyperProStaff 6.1 95 16x18 standard
3) 6.1 95S, 18x16, standard (a perfect transition as I aged)
Honorable Mention) HyperProStaff 6.1 OS (105"), 27.5

All sublime...
 
haqq777 said:
What's the general view here of the 2017 reissue (18×20)?
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That's the current frame I'm using. (all white with the red paint at 9 and 3). I really like it. Pretty hefty and solid. Love the tight pattern. Plenty of spin. I generate my own power so I love the low power in it. It's just a very solid heavy player's frame. I couldn't ask any more from it really. Strung with a soft Yonex poly somewhere around 45 lbs now.
 
MajesticMoose said:
That's the current frame I'm using. (all white with the red paint at 9 and 3). I really like it. Pretty hefty and solid. Love the tight pattern. Plenty of spin. I generate my own power so I love the low power in it. It's just a very solid heavy player's frame. I couldn't ask any more from it really. Strung with a soft Yonex poly somewhere around 45 lbs now.
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Seth said:
I liked it a lot. It felt like a 6.1, which is a great thing in a time when brands are altering and abandoning legacy lines.
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I have a couple of them and I love them. Traditional feeling and playing sticks and can really clobber the ball. I have one with hybrid VS/Alu Power and other is a full bed of RS Lyon in other. The aesthetics arent bad either. These reissues got a little overshadowed by Project One Seven which was somewhat similar in color scheme and came at the same time. But overall, these are fantastic sticks.
 
haqq777 said:
I have a couple of them and I love them. Traditional feeling and playing sticks and can really clobber the ball. I have one with hybrid VS/Alu Power and other is a full bed of RS Lyon in other. The aesthetics arent bad either. These reissues got a little overshadowed by Project One Seven which was somewhat similar in color scheme and came at the same time. But overall, these are fantastic sticks.
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I remember I bought that frame from TW for $129
 
Moses85 said:
Have you played with 25A edition? If so, how would you compare it to 2017 edition?
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I havent played with the 25A but played with the pro staff classic 6.1 many times. The 2017 (and the 2014) is the closest to the PSC in the entire line in terms of the clean, crisp feel. The PSC is still a bit stiffer and crisper, but the 2017 is as close as it gets.
 
Moses85 said:
Have you played with 25A edition? If so, how would you compare it to 2017 edition?
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To me the 25a was more powerful and raw, like a 6.1 Classic, than any of the other frames between. The feel at contact is close to the others but unique in the 6.1 Classic and 25a. This could be attributed to them both being the same graphite and Kevlar if the decals on the throat are to be believed. The swing weight on my 4 averaged close to 340.

From what I remember the 2017 felt close to the blx which preceded it. The feel at contact was a bit more polite, it was easier to accelerate and control as it had, if I remember correctly a swingweight around 325-330.
 
Been on a contract with Wilson for many years an had access to all of them. Contrary to popular belief the 2017 Re-issue 6.1 95 18x20 (parallel drilled holes) is the only one I have committed to use. They put the best aspect of all of the 6.1 frames in this new re-issue. Only a minor tweak or two with lead tape and players can find what they want based on their game. Toughest aspect of the 6.1 95 frames is finding more.
 
snoflewis said:
I havent played with the 25A but played with the pro staff classic 6.1 many times. The 2017 (and the 2014) is the closest to the PSC in the entire line in terms of the clean, crisp feel. The PSC is still a bit stiffer and crisper, but the 2017 is as close as it gets.
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moon shot said:
To me the 25a was more powerful and raw, like a 6.1 Classic, than any of the other frames between. The feel at contact is close to the others but unique in the 6.1 Classic and 25a. This could be attributed to them both being the same graphite and Kevlar if the decals on the throat are to be believed. The swing weight on my 4 averaged close to 340.

From what I remember the 2017 felt close to the blx which preceded it. The feel at contact was a bit more polite, it was easier to accelerate and control as it had, if I remember correctly a swingweight around 325-330.
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USPTARF97 said:
Been on a contract with Wilson for many years an had access to all of them. Contrary to popular belief the 2017 Re-issue 6.1 95 18x20 (parallel drilled holes) is the only one I have committed to use. They put the best aspect of all of the 6.1 frames in this new re-issue. Only a minor tweak or two with lead tape and players can find what they want based on their game. Toughest aspect of
the 6.1 95 frames is finding more.
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Thx for the reply guys. I have 2 25A (one with lead at 10 & 2) and one Ncode with added leathergrip. As far as I can tell the 25As feel the same as the original PSC I played with as a kid in the late 90s. I'll probably get 2 2017 edition, add leathergrip and lead them all up to match the spec of my leaded up 25A.
 
IMO, there's nothing like the original 6.1 Classic. Everything else was an attempt to duplicate its feel while messing with the recipe. I still happen to have two in good shape from the 90's that I refuse to get rid of.

I have not tried the 25A, but if Wilson went back to basics I'm sure it is a beauty. However, I do prefer the 16x18 open pattern of the original. Would like to see a 16x18 re-issue.
 
lelopez said:
IMO, there's nothing like the original 6.1 Classic. Everything else was an attempt to duplicate its feel while messing with the recipe. I still happen to have two in good shape from the 90's that I refuse to get rid of.

I have not tried the 25A, but if Wilson went back to basics I'm sure it is a beauty. However, I do prefer the 16x18 open pattern of the original. Would like to see a 16x18 re-issue.
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Got 16x18, 18x20, stretch one, also 18x20 and several clones.
 
lelopez said:
IMO, there's nothing like the original 6.1 Classic. Everything else was an attempt to duplicate its feel while messing with the recipe. I still happen to have two in good shape from the 90's that I refuse to get rid of.

I have not tried the 25A, but if Wilson went back to basics I'm sure it is a beauty. However, I do prefer the 16x18 open pattern of the original. Would like to see a 16x18 re-issue.
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If someone is accustomed to playing with the 6.1 Classic 18x20, switching to the 2017 6.1 18x20 is fairly seamless. Same with the 25A. Those are much better options than buying 20-30 year old frames off of Flea Bay. The new frames can be tweaked to produce the same result as the older frame. The older frames actually feel a bit mushy and bulky compared to the newer frame.
 
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I have a few 6.1 95 in my collection and only use them with leather. My best pick will probably be the 2010 blx version with leather grip and some weight in the hoop to improve stability, but a close second is my n 6.1 95. It has a shrink wrap on the grip along with a leather grip and it has the best plow and stability out of the bunch.
 
I’ve had the first BLX model, the 2017 reissue and the nCode. I’ll never sell the nCode. It’s too nice. Perfect feel and balance.
 
I've only played with the first 3 iterations (the Classic, the HPS, and the nCode) and the last iteration with Parallel Drilling. Honestly they are all great. The nCode was the lightest, I think and my favorite paintjob. But I thought the HPS was perfect (granted I played with it the most, so I probably grew into the racquet). Also, I played the 16x18, which has a bit more pop than the 18x20.

Now playing with the RF97 which gives me the same power, more stability but with a little less touch/precision.
 
Maybe not the "best" 6.1, but I have an "Asian" nCode 6.1 that I bought from Japan that has the same weight/balance specs as the more recent 6.1S but is the regular 16x18 pattern. It's enjoyable to hit with - lighter and more head heavy than the regular 6.1 - but it's not my main stick because I have no idea where I'd find another one.

The specs inside the throat, compared to a regular nCode 6.1.
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