The Big 4's Best Performance at Slams.

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
So which year were they at their best at any slam. AO, RG, WIM, USO

Federer:
AO: 2007
RG: 2011
WIM: 2004
USO: 2006

Nadal:
AO: 2009
RG: 2008
WIM: 2008
USO: 2010

Djokovic
AO: 2012
RG: 2013/2016
WIM: 2011
USO: 2011

Murray
AO: 2010
RG: 2016
WIM: 2013
USO: 2012
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
So which year were they at their best at any slam. AO, RG, WIM, USO

Federer:
AO: 2007
RG: 2011
WIM: 2004
USO: 2006

Nadal:
AO: 2009
RG: 2008
WIM: 2008
USO: 2010

Djokovic
AO: 2012
RG: 2013/2016
WIM: 2011
USO: 2011

Murray
AO: 2010
RG: 2016
WIM: 2013
USO: 2012

So Nadal peaked a long time ago, no? ;)
 

Flash O'Groove

Hall of Fame
So which year were they at their best at any slam. AO, RG, WIM, USO

Federer:
AO: 2007
RG: 2011
WIM: 2004
USO: 2006

Nadal:
AO: 2009
RG: 2008
WIM: 2008
USO: 2010

Djokovic
AO: 2012
RG: 2013/2016
WIM: 2011
USO: 2011

Murray
AO: 2010
RG: 2016
WIM: 2013
USO: 2012

Djokovic was better at the AO 2011, and I think at RG 2008.

The others are correct.
 

kandamrgam

Hall of Fame
So which year were they at their best at any slam. AO, RG, WIM, USO

Federer:
AO: 2007
RG: 2011
WIM: 2004
USO: 2006

Nadal:
AO: 2009
RG: 2008
WIM: 2008
USO: 2010

Djokovic
AO: 2012
RG: 2013/2016
WIM: 2011
USO: 2011

Murray
AO: 2010
RG: 2016
WIM: 2013
USO: 2012
Regarding Federer's best RG level I have thought the same, that 2011 was his best even though he wasn't great throughout the year 2011, but many Federer fans here do disagree with that. Can't be sure. Has to be either 2011, 2007 or 2006.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Probably also better at Wimbledon 2015 than he was in 2011.

He was obviously better in the final at least.

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Federer:
AO: 2007
RG: 2011
WIM: 2003
USO: 2006

Nadal:
AO: 2009
RG: 2008
WIM: 2008
USO: 2013

Djokovic
AO: 2011
RG: 2016
WIM: 2015
USO: 2011

Murray
AO: 2013/2015
RG: 2016
WIM: 2016
USO: 2016 ;)
 

Flash O'Groove

Hall of Fame
Agree about AO, but no way his best RG level is 2008

I dunno. He was full of confidence after the AO and a strong spring. I think he was never confident again at RG. 2009 and 2010 were terribe, 2011 he was upset by Fed, the subsequent t years he tried to build the confidence back but with Rafa it wasn't easy.

He had a match with Nadal in 2008, and Nadal in 2008 is the highest level ever.
 

kandamrgam

Hall of Fame
I dunno. He was full of confidence after the AO and a strong spring. I think he was never confident again at RG. 2009 and 2010 were terribe, 2011 he was upset by Fed, the subsequent t years he tried to build the confidence back but with Rafa it wasn't easy.

He had a match with Nadal in 2008, and Nadal in 2008 is the highest level ever.

Djokovic was in form during clay swing that season but he as a player has improved big time around 2011. For me it's any year from 2011+. Personal opinion though.
 

Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal:

AO 2009
RG 2008
WC 2008
UO 2010 (2013 was great but 2010 was more dominant performance).

Federer:

AO 2007
FO 2006 (2011 was one great performance against Djokovic).
WC 2004
UO 2006

Djokovic:

AO 2011
FO 2013
WC 2015
UO 2011

Murray:
AO 2015
FO 2016
WC 2013
UO 2012
 
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Deleted member 688153

Guest
Fed had better RG years than 2011, however good that SF was.

Rogi:
AO: 2007
RG: 2006
WIM: 2004
USO: 2006

Nads:
AO: 2009
RG: 2008
WIM: 2008
USO: 2010

No1e:
AO: 2011
RG: 2013
WIM: 2015
USO: 2011

Sir Andrew:
AO: 2013
RG: 2016
WIM: 2013
USO: 2012
 
Federer:
AO: 2007
RG: 2011
WIM: 2003
USO: 2006

2004 beats it for me. He was screwed up by the wind against Agassi,but other than than he was outstanding.

Nadal:
AO: 2009
RG: 2008
WIM: 2008
USO: 2013
Thread is about the best,not most overrated :D. Seriously now,Nadal's firepower in 2010 left me in awe.As @MichaelNadal would say he was #epic. 2013 pusher mode Nadal took advantage of Djokovic's dumbness in the 3rd set

Murray
AO: 2013/2015
RG: 2016
WIM: 2016

USO: 2016 ;)
Strong era confirmed. NEW IMPROVED PEAK VERSION OF MURRAY.:cool::cool::cool:

Fed had better RG years than 2011, however good that SF was.
2011 SF/F combo beats everything,sorry to tell you mate.:p
2006 run was exactly like 2015 Djoker. Great up to the QF,nothing special in the semi and dissapointing in the final.In fact 2006 and 2008 RG finals are Federer's worst displays in Slam finals.;)
No to 2005,no to 2007 because he was way worse in the SF.
2009 could have and argument since he played his best in the final.
 
Fed:
AO 04 tied with 07,RG 11,Wimby 03,US 04
Nadal:
AO 09,RG 08,Wimby 08,US 10
Djokovic:
Played his best on HC in 2011,his best on natural surfaces during Wimby15 and RG 16
Murray:
AO 13,RG 16,Wimby 12,US 12(could have been 08 if not for the crap final performance)
 

DreddyTennis45

Hall of Fame
Federer:

AO: 2007
RG 2006
Wimbledon: 2012
USO: 2004

Nadal
AO 2009
RG: 2008
Wimbledon: 2008
USO: 2013

Djokovic
AO 2012
RG: 2016
Wimbledon: 2011
USO: 2011

Murray
AO:2015
RG: 2016
Wimbledon: 2013
USO: 2012
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
Federer:

AO 2004 - Harder draw, made mincemeat of players
RG 2011 - Awesome tournament
Wimbledon 2005 - Ownage avenue
USO 2005

Nadal:

AO 2009
RG 2008
Wimbedon 2008
USO 2010

Djokovic:
AO 2011
RG 2016 - He won but I still think in previous French Open's his level was higher
Wimbledon 2011
USO 2011

Murray:

AO 2013 - Beat his slam nemesis in 5 sets, first time he beat Federer in a slam, possibly the last time.
RG 2016
Wimbledon 2013
US Open 2012
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Federer:
AO-04
RG-06
Wimby-03
USO-06

Nadal:
AO-09
RG-08
Wimby-08
USO-10

Djoker:
AO-11
RG-11/16
Wimby-15
USO-11
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
2004 beats it for me. He was screwed up by the wind against Agassi,but other than than he was outstanding.

I don't put much stock in that 2004 match with Agassi the conditions were awful and they stopped played when Federer was taking control, his SF and F level in 2004 was really high (understatement for final) - but his first 3 rounds didn't impress too much. In 2006 he was pretty much ridiculous all the way through, Blake and Roddick played very well to get sets but he never hits the highs of the 2004 final.

Thread is about the best,not most overrated :D. Seriously now,Nadal's firepower in 2010 left me in awe.As @MichaelNadal would say he was #epic. 2013 pusher mode Nadal took advantage of Djokovic's dumbness in the 3rd set

The final wasn't so good for Nadal maybe but it was a clean performance and his level throughout was very impressive.

Strong era confirmed. NEW IMPROVED PEAK VERSION OF MURRAY.:cool::cool::cool:

His 2013 form didn't impress me that much, I think his 2012 form is right up there as well but I deferred to a year that he won.

We'll see how the USO goes, if Djokovic has a functioning wrist he's the favourite.

2011 SF/F combo beats everything,sorry to tell you mate.:p

In that case 2009 might be #1 ;)
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
IMO their best level when they didn't win the slam of the TOP 3

Nadal:
AO 12
RG 16 (kinda tough tbh here)
WIM 07
USO 11

Djokovic:
AO 14 (again kinda tough cause he was **** in 09 and 10)
RG 15 but 13 (maybe his highest anyway)
WIM 12 (13's finals was just so incredibly ****)
US 10

Federer
AO 09
RG 06
WIM 08
USO 11
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
I don't put much stock in that 2004 match with Agassi the conditions were awful and they stopped played when Federer was taking control, his SF and F level in 2004 was really high (understatement for final) - but his first 3 rounds didn't impress too much. In 2006 he was pretty much ridiculous all the way through, Blake and Roddick played very well to get sets but he never hits the highs of the 2004 final.



The final wasn't so good for Nadal maybe but it was a clean performance and his level throughout was very impressive.



His 2013 form didn't impress me that much, I think his 2012 form is right up there as well but I deferred to a year that he won.

We'll see how the USO goes, if Djokovic has a functioning wrist he's the favourite.



In that case 2009 might be #1 ;)
Lol, I'm always somewhat bemused, but at the same time in awe, at just how much you and posters like abmk and TheFifthSet remember about Federer's matches over the years. I mean, I could give a general description of Djokovic's level in many of the matches he's played in the latter stages of a major but you guys can even recall what Fed's 1st serve % was in the 2nd round of Miami 2004, let alone the early rounds in one of the slams!!! :D Seriously, you must have memories like an elephant. :eek:
 

DreddyTennis45

Hall of Fame
IMO their best level when they didn't win the slam of the TOP 3

Nadal:
AO 12
RG 16 (kinda tough tbh here)
WIM 07
USO 11

Djokovic:
AO 14 (again kinda tough cause he was **** in 09 and 10)
RG 15 but 13 (maybe his highest anyway)
WIM 12 (13's finals was just so incredibly ****)
US 10

Federer
AO 09
RG 06
WIM 08
USO 11

Agreed with most but think Djoko played better at USO 2012 while Fed's best were 2015 for wimbledon and USO
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Lol, I'm always somewhat bemused, but at the same time in awe, at just how much you and posters like abmk and TheFifthSet remember about Federer's matches over the years. I mean, I could give a general description of Djokovic's level in many of the matches he's played in the latter stages of a major but you guys can even recall what Fed's 1st serve % was in the 2nd round of Miami 2004, let alone the early rounds in one of the slams!!! :D Seriously, you must have memories like an elephant. :eek:

I rewatch old matches a lot and am constantly scouring stats. I do wonder sometimes whether I'm pushing out other important stuff or how successful I could be if I devoted this much energy to my career :D
 
LOL, Fed at RG in 2011 was not better than his 2005-2009 versions.
Doubt you can pinpont more than 2 RG matches where Fed was better than 2011 semi.
Till then feed on ignorance...
Note I didn't include 2007 final,since I think it was his best match of the 5 he played against Nadal.
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
Lol, I bet I can guess why you think that.

I think his level in the final of 2015 was higher, extremely impresive. But his level throughout that tourney was lower than in 2011 IMO. Also he was the favorite in 2015 while Rafa was the favorite in 2011, but that could be interperted for both tourney's final in different ways.
 

Tennisanity

Legend
Being at your best doesn't necessarily mean you won. With that out of the way, the correct answers are:

Federer:
AO: 2007
RG: 2006 (loss)
WIM: 2003
USO: 2006

Nadal:
AO: 2012 (loss)
RG: 2008
WIM: 2007 (loss)
USO: 2011 (loss)

Djokovic
AO: 2011
RG: 2015 (loss)
WIM: 2014
USO: 2011

Murray
AO: 2010 (loss)
RG: 2016
WIM: 2012 (loss)
USO: 2012
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Doubt you can pinpont more than 2 RG matches where Fed was better than 2011 semi.
Till then feed on ignorance...
Note I didn't include 2007 final,since I think it was his best match of the 5 he played against Nadal.
2009 RG final, 06 4R and QF. 06 SF would have been another had Nalbandian finished, Federer was in full flight starting from when he was a break down in the second, until then he was quite poor but after that he was incredible. Granted, Djokovic was way better than those opponents. But conditions were also way faster in 11 than they were in 05-06 which matters a lot and helped him cover for his groundgame and movement deficiencies. All things considered 11 RG semi is a top 5 match for him at RG but not his best. His 11 RG would not have looked as good if the conditions were as slow as they were in 05-07

I don't know why you are referencing matches vs Nadal...what Federer does against Nadal is rarely if ever an indication of his level against everyone else.
 
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Emperor of Belgrade

Guest
Federer:

AO - 2007
RG - 2006
W - 2003/2004
USO - 2006

Nadal:

AO - 2009
RG - 2008
W - 2008
USO - 2010

Djokovic:

AO - 2008/2011
RG - 2016
W - 2015
USO - 2011

Murray:

AO - 2013
RG - 2016
W - 2016
USO - 2012
 

VamosBamos987

Hall of Fame
LOL not only that there was no rain, the match was also stopped when Djokovic was on 2 sets streak.

Looks like someone is so desperate that he is lying in order to bash. :D
Anderson choking a two sets lead in one day? He's a MUG, but he's no Berdych...

Anderson would have won had they played the set the same day. Momentum swings back and forth. But what a shame. They basically played a one set match the next day.
 

TheMaestro1990

Hall of Fame
What if we add WTFs as well?

Federer: Plenty to choose from. Honestly don't know.
Djokovic: Same here, but 2012 was impressive.
Nadal: Error not found
Murray: Error not found
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
So which year were they at their best at any slam. AO, RG, WIM, USO

Federer:
AO: 2007
RG: 2011
WIM: 2004
USO: 2006

Nadal:
AO: 2009
RG: 2008
WIM: 2008
USO: 2010

Djokovic
AO: 2012
RG: 2013/2016
WIM: 2011
USO: 2011

Murray
AO: 2010
RG: 2016
WIM: 2013
USO: 2012
Wimbledon 2004 for Fed? No way. 2006 - yes way.
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
What if we add WTFs as well?

Federer: Plenty to choose from. Honestly don't know.
Djokovic: Same here, but 2012 was impressive.
Nadal: Error not found
Murray: Error not found

If we are going by highest level then you can still rank them as Nadal and Murray as they have played them no? And so ******* like to bring that up in this thread with the intention of showing that Rafa hasn't won it. It's just as ****like as if someone would bring up the Rog-Rafa h2h. Simply not the place for it. Smh...
 
2009 RG final, 06 4R and QF. 06 SF would have been another had Nalbandian finished, Federer was in full flight starting from when he was a break down in the second, until then he was quite poor but after that he was incredible. Granted, Djokovic was way better than those opponents. But conditions were also way faster in 11 than they were in 05-06 which matters a lot and helped him cover for his groundgame and movement deficiencies. All things considered 11 RG semi is a top 5 match for him at RG but not his best. His 11 RG would not have looked as good if the conditions were as slow as they were in 05-07
Good post,but my post was meant for the "old Fed beat peak Djokovic" brigade.
When it most matters(SF/F) Fed only had one match better than 2011 semi(2 if you want include 06 semi),that was the point.
I could argue the same way that Djokovic played better against Nadal and Thiem than against Fed in 2011. I actually feel that way.

I don't know why you are referencing matches vs Nadal...what Federer does against Nadal is rarely if ever an indication of his level against everyone else.
Sorry,I meant to compare those matches with 2011 final,not SF. Incognito said Fed was better pre 2011,but apart from 2007 final,all his matches against Nadal were worse.
 

VamosBamos987

Hall of Fame
Djokovic fans:

Fedr

2015 us open
2015- wimbelton
2016- austrlia
2016- french open-- fedr didn't play, but it would've been peak...duh

arrognt-erer, djokovc goat.
 

TheMaestro1990

Hall of Fame
If we are going by highest level then you can still rank them as Nadal and Murray as they have played them no? And so ******* like to bring that up in this thread with the intention of showing that Rafa hasn't won it. It's just as ****like as if someone would bring up the Rog-Rafa h2h. Simply not the place for it. Smh...

It was a joke. Relax.

If I have to choose for Rafa, I'd say 2010 or 2013. He was great in the SF vs Murray in 2010 but a bit lackluster in the final.

For Murray it's tougher. He hasn't reached a final...
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
It was a joke. Relax.

If I have to choose for Rafa, I'd say 2010 or 2013. He was great in the SF vs Murray in 2010 but a bit lackluster in the final.

For Murray it's tougher. He hasn't reached a final...

He was better in the 2010 final than in 2013.
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
He was better in the 2010 final than in 2013.

Yes but that final set was without any energy. A bit of his own fault though, should have finished the Murray match in 2, but of a mental laps in the second and the end of the third. I also believed that he could have won the WTF had he just been a bit more fortunate. E.g, Nole beating Rog in 2010 or Wawa doing the job against Nole in 2013. It is also by far his worst surface though.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Yes but that final set was without any energy. A bit of his own fault though, should have finished the Murray match in 2, but of a mental laps in the second and the end of the third. I also believed that he could have won the WTF had he just been a bit more fortunate. E.g, Nole beating Rog in 2010 or Wawa doing the job against Nole in 2013. It is also by far his worst surface though.

Federer beat down Djokovic in straights in 2010. I think Federer in that form indoors is just a little too much for Nadal. Nadal's numbers in the 3rd set weren't really any worse than any other, Federer totally cut out the errors and was smacking winners, not to mention his serve percentage in the 2nd set was poor and in the 3rd it was great. A fresher Nadal might have made Federer play more balls but on that court I don't think it would have done more than make the score respectable.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Yes but that final set was without any energy. A bit of his own fault though, should have finished the Murray match in 2, but of a mental laps in the second and the end of the third. I also believed that he could have won the WTF had he just been a bit more fortunate. E.g, Nole beating Rog in 2010 or Wawa doing the job against Nole in 2013. It is also by far his worst surface though.
Not being funny babe but it really doesn't make much sense to say things like "Rafa could have won X tournament if Y player had taken out Z player for him" because we could make the same argument for so many other ATGs over the years in tournaments they failed to win, or for instance if Federer hadn't taken out Djokovic at RG 2011, Novak would've become French Open champion five years earlier than he did and your favourite would have one less major title. ;) See, I can play this game too! :p The cold hard truth is that Nadal was simply never good enough to win the WTF and it will likely always remain the biggest stain on his admittedly very impressive resume.
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
Not being funny babe but it really doesn't make much sense to say things like "Rafa could have won X tournament if Y player had taken out Z player for him" because we could make the same argument for so many other ATGs over the years in tournaments they failed to win, or for instance if Federer hadn't taken out Djokovic at RG 2011, Novak would've become French Open champion five years earlier than he did and your favourite would have one less major title. ;) See, I can play this game too! :p The cold hard truth is that Nadal was simply never good enough to win the WTF and it will likely always remain the biggest stain on his admittedly very impressive resume.

I agree, I don't think he deserves a WTF based on his performances
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Fed:

AO: 07
RG: 06
WIM: 06
USO: 05 / 10

Nadal:

AO: 09
RG: 06 / 08
WIM: 08
USO: 13

Djokovic:

AO: 08
RG: 12
WIM: 11
USO: 07

Murray:

AO: 10
RG: 16
WIM: 13
USO: 12
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Good post,but my post was meant for the "old Fed beat peak Djokovic" brigade.
When it most matters(SF/F) Fed only had one match better than 2011 semi(2 if you want include 06 semi),that was the point.
I could argue the same way that Djokovic played better against Nadal and Thiem than against Fed in 2011. I actually feel that way.


Sorry,I meant to compare those matches with 2011 final,not SF. Incognito said Fed was better pre 2011,but apart from 2007 final,all his matches against Nadal were worse.
I think the 11 RG semis were the best Djokovic and Federer played at RG against an in form high level opponent. That being said, the sample is very small because the only other in form high level opponent they have faced is Nadal. Outside RG, Fed has a couple matches against elite clay courters that I think are better (05 Hamburg QF, 06 Rome final), Djokovic does too (11 Rome, 13 MC although Nadal was quite subpar in the latter).

I think 11 RG is definitely the worst version of Nadal Fed faced at RG. Besides the first set of the 06 final all the other versions were better and more confident. That and the quicker conditions made that match seem closer. Big difference with the fast balls and thinner top level facing a Nadal whose defense and CC FH had eroded and who was low on confidence vs facing younger Nadal who could run forever, had a better CC forehand, on the slower clay. He went to the DTL shots more in 11 but that's way more effective against Novak than it is for Fed. Nadal frustrated Federer to no end in 05-06 because he would run down every ball and Federer would have to unload on 2-3 FHs just to win a point. That wasn't the case in 2011 and it was easier to hit through him. Fed's tactics were also better in 11 than they were in 05. Fed's tactics were terrible in 07 as well (he wasn't being aggressive and was trying to grind with Nadal) and once Nadal upped the ante in the third and 4th sets Fed was toast. In 06 Fed had the right tactics and was keeping close the last 2 sets but he was making UFE after UFE in the crucual times.
 
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