The biggest asterix in tennis history

It’s time to call it for what it really is. Novak Djokovic’s 2021 season and potential CSG is by a large distant the tennis achievement with the biggest asterix attached to it.

Let’s start from the beginning of the year. At the Australian Open the Serb looked more then beatable. Let’s be honest, in any other era Djokovic would have lost before the final. Fritz should have ended him without a shadow of a doubt - I have a hard time seeing any Nole fan not agreeing here - and Zverev aka ”put myself in there maybe” had another US Open like choke. Zverev isn’t 19 or 20 anymore. He’s at an age where you’re supposed to be in your prime. Even Mr Walkman (Raonic) in his 2016 form would have put the hammer down on Djokovic.

In the final Djokovic faced Medvedev, the most in-form player on tour. The Russian turned into a little scared bunny who doesn’t know how to fight and couldn’t help but smile afterwards despite having lost in three humiliating sets with a 20+ match winning streak going into the match. Absolutely pathetic. Granted, Djokovic played a great final but Medvedev’s attitude and lack of fight is an embarrassment.

Nonetheless, Medvedev’s shameful performance shouldn’t even have mattered. Novak Djokovic in any other era wouldn’t have reached the final.

Let’s fast forward to RG. Djokovic survives Musetti after being behind 0-2. Musetti, aged 19(!!!!), retired without an injury at the end of the fifth set. I mean, come on, at this point I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. The only thing to conclude is that it was a joke. No wonder Djokovic offered him a first class seat for free on his private jet to Wimbledon.

”But Djokovic’s superb and super human win against Rafa in the semis!??”, I can already hear Djokovic fans screaming in their heads. Yes, the Rafael Nadal with a severe foot injury who could barely move the last 1,5 sets. On paper a great win but looking at it with context - especially after seeing how Nadal has struggled with even training and playing matches after RG - it is not that special. Federer would have had 4 DCGS should he dealt with this Rafa in 05, 06, 07 and 11. But luck was on Djokovic’s side just like in 2015 but then Wawrinka stood in the way in the end. It’s quite telling that Fed had to face demon versions of Nadal every time whereas Djokovic could stomp on the two worst versions of Rafa at RG.

In the final Tsitsipas provided an epic choke in the last three sets. In the press conference afterwards he said he learned that he had to win 3 sets and not 2. That’s the kind of opposition Djokovic has had to face. If not an injured Nadal, it has been next gen players thinking they’re demi Gods thanks to social media.

Ok, Wimbledon... the biggest joke of a Grand Slam tournament in this millenium. Djokovic played at 1,5/5 level throughout the tournament and barely lost a set. Another next gen player in the final who couldn’t handle pressure. Wimbledon was a giant joke. Any Djokovic fan stating he is at least close to a neutral observer will have to nod his head in agreement.

Now, US Open is around the corner. Nadal is injured and out. Federer once again is out. Djokovic without having to face his two biggest rivals has the opportunity to achieve the calender Grand Slam. Wawrinka is out. Any other decent older player is not there, retired or out of form. What is left are the same players who have given Djokovic 3 Grand Slam titles on a plate this year. At this stage you’ll have to wonder if they’ll be at the podium after the final so Djokovic can Thank them in person: ”Without you guys it wouldn’t be possible!” He would say before going on to talk about his team and coaches.

I’m not even going to include a poll. It’s not a question, it’s a mere case of stating the obvious: Novak Djokovic’s achievements in 2021 and potential CSG has the biggest Asterix attached to it in tennis history, possibly even in sport’s history.
 
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thrust

Hall of Fame
It’s time to call it for what it really is. Novak Djokovic’s 2021 season and potential CSG is by a large distant the tennis achievement with the biggest asterix attached to it.

Let’s start from the beginning of the year. At the Australian Open the Serb looked more then beatable. Let’s be honest, in any other era Djokovic would have lost before the final. Fritz should have ended him without a shadow of a doubt - I have a hard time seeing any Nole fan not agreeing here - and Zverev aka ”put myself in there maybe” had another US Open like choke. Zverev isn’t 19 or 20 anymore. He’s at an age where you’re supposed to be in your prime. Even Mr Walkman (Raonic) in his 2016 form would have put the hammer down on Djokovic.

In the final Djokovic faced Medvedev, the most in-form player on tour. The Russian turned into a little scared bunny who doesn’t know how to fight and couldn’t help by smile afterwards despite having lost in three humiliating sets with a 20+ match winning streak going into the match. Absolutely pathetic. Granted, Djokovic played a great final but Medvedev’s attitude and lack of fight is an embarrassment.

Nonetheless, Medvedev’s shameful performance shouldn’t even have mattered. Novak Djokovic in any other era wouldn’t have reached the final.

Let’s fast forward to RG. Djokovic survives Musetti after being behind 0-2. Musetti, aged 19(!!!!), retired without an injury at the end of the fifth set. I mean, come on, at this point I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. The only thing to conclude is that it was a joke. No wonder Djokovic offered him a first class seat for free on his private jet to Wimbledon.

”But Djokovic’s superb and super human win against Rafa in the semis!??”, I can already hear Djokovic fans screaming in their heads. Yes, the Rafael Nadal with a severe foot injury who could barely move the last 1,5 sets. On paper a great win but looking at it with context - especially after seeing how Nadal has struggled with even training and playing matches after RG - it is not that special. Federer would have had 4 DCGS should he dealt with this Rafa in 05, 06, 07 and 11. But luck was on Djokovic’s side just like in 2015 but then Wawrinka stood in the way in the end. It’s quite telling that Fed had to face demon versions of Nadal every time whereas Djokovic could stomp on the two worst versions of Rafa at RG.

In the final Tsitsipas provided an epic choke in the last three sets. In the press conference afterwards he said he learned that he had to win 3 sets and not 2. That’s the kind of opposition Djokovic has had to face. If not an injured Nadal, it has been next gen players thinking they’re demi Gods thanks to social media.

Ok, Wimbledon... the biggest joke of a Grand Slam tournament in this millenium. Djokovic played at 1,5/5 level throughout the tournament and barely lost a set. Another next gen player in the final who couldn’t handle pressure. Wimbledon was a giant joke. Any Djokovic fan stating he is at least close to a neutral observer will have to nod his head in agreement.

Now, US Open is around the corner. Nadal is injured and out. Federer once again is out. Djokovic without having to face his two biggest rivals has the opportunity to achieve the calender Grand Slam. Wawrinka is out. Any other decent older player is not there, retired or out of form. What is left are the same players who have given Djokovic 3 Grand Slam titles on a plate this year. At this stage you’ll have to wonder if they’ll be at the podium after the final so Djokovic can Thank them in person: ”Without you guys it wouldn’t be possible!” He would say before going on to talk about his team and coaches.

I’m not even going to include a poll. It’s not a question, it’s a mere case of stating the obvious: Novak Djokovic’s achievements in 2021 and potential CSG has the biggest Asterix attached to it in tennis history, possibly even in sport’s history.
Sorry, but there are NO asterixis in the record books.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Nadal himself look impotent to stop Novak, has been so for many years.
Nadal used his full payload on Federer in the second half of the 2000s and then from 2011 despite operating at full capacity his body slowing down more and more every year, collapsed after 2014 FO, in the last many years he has been useless vs Novak...

Sad ....
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
Biggest * should be the 237 consecutive weeks at number 1 record. Number 2 being Andy Roddick who had 0 clay court game then baby Nadal who went out early at every HC slam until 2008.
 

Sunny014

Legend
He was close at #5 that year
Still not in the top 4.

Plus 1 guy in the top 5 is still better than having 3 oldies in the top 5.

Technically post 2018 both Fed and Nadal should have been kicked out of the top 5 and only Novak should have been in the top 5 like Agassi did in 2005, then we could have said that the era is strong.
 

pj80

Hall of Fame
It’s time to call it for what it really is. Novak Djokovic’s 2021 season and potential CSG is by a large distant the tennis achievement with the biggest asterix attached to it.

Let’s start from the beginning of the year. At the Australian Open the Serb looked more then beatable. Let’s be honest, in any other era Djokovic would have lost before the final. Fritz should have ended him without a shadow of a doubt - I have a hard time seeing any Nole fan not agreeing here - and Zverev aka ”put myself in there maybe” had another US Open like choke. Zverev isn’t 19 or 20 anymore. He’s at an age where you’re supposed to be in your prime. Even Mr Walkman (Raonic) in his 2016 form would have put the hammer down on Djokovic.

In the final Djokovic faced Medvedev, the most in-form player on tour. The Russian turned into a little scared bunny who doesn’t know how to fight and couldn’t help but smile afterwards despite having lost in three humiliating sets with a 20+ match winning streak going into the match. Absolutely pathetic. Granted, Djokovic played a great final but Medvedev’s attitude and lack of fight is an embarrassment.

Nonetheless, Medvedev’s shameful performance shouldn’t even have mattered. Novak Djokovic in any other era wouldn’t have reached the final.

Let’s fast forward to RG. Djokovic survives Musetti after being behind 0-2. Musetti, aged 19(!!!!), retired without an injury at the end of the fifth set. I mean, come on, at this point I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. The only thing to conclude is that it was a joke. No wonder Djokovic offered him a first class seat for free on his private jet to Wimbledon.

”But Djokovic’s superb and super human win against Rafa in the semis!??”, I can already hear Djokovic fans screaming in their heads. Yes, the Rafael Nadal with a severe foot injury who could barely move the last 1,5 sets. On paper a great win but looking at it with context - especially after seeing how Nadal has struggled with even training and playing matches after RG - it is not that special. Federer would have had 4 DCGS should he dealt with this Rafa in 05, 06, 07 and 11. But luck was on Djokovic’s side just like in 2015 but then Wawrinka stood in the way in the end. It’s quite telling that Fed had to face demon versions of Nadal every time whereas Djokovic could stomp on the two worst versions of Rafa at RG.

In the final Tsitsipas provided an epic choke in the last three sets. In the press conference afterwards he said he learned that he had to win 3 sets and not 2. That’s the kind of opposition Djokovic has had to face. If not an injured Nadal, it has been next gen players thinking they’re demi Gods thanks to social media.

Ok, Wimbledon... the biggest joke of a Grand Slam tournament in this millenium. Djokovic played at 1,5/5 level throughout the tournament and barely lost a set. Another next gen player in the final who couldn’t handle pressure. Wimbledon was a giant joke. Any Djokovic fan stating he is at least close to a neutral observer will have to nod his head in agreement.

Now, US Open is around the corner. Nadal is injured and out. Federer once again is out. Djokovic without having to face his two biggest rivals has the opportunity to achieve the calender Grand Slam. Wawrinka is out. Any other decent older player is not there, retired or out of form. What is left are the same players who have given Djokovic 3 Grand Slam titles on a plate this year. At this stage you’ll have to wonder if they’ll be at the podium after the final so Djokovic can Thank them in person: ”Without you guys it wouldn’t be possible!” He would say before going on to talk about his team and coaches.

I’m not even going to include a poll. It’s not a question, it’s a mere case of stating the obvious: Novak Djokovic’s achievements in 2021 and potential CSG has the biggest Asterix attached to it in tennis history, possibly even in sport’s history.
maybe any other era...but definitely not the blake/srichaphan era
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Keep posting your memes and pictures delusional Nole fans - it’s just a sign you have no comeback arguments! As usual Spencer Gore will be ready to provide a false narrative before Hitman joins the race with a post both parties somewhat agree on. Classic TTW
Maestronians' salty walls of text with a bunch of their usual hypothetical dreams, junk eye tests and goalposts shifting doesn't deserve anything other than memes. :whistle:
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
”You can’t judge an era until 10 more years have passed”
Players born in the 90s are merely children at 21-31 years of age. Just wait until they grow up :)

The real funny thing to me, is the notion that Novak is playing his best tennis. However, he has done extremely well to win slams being so far below his top level. Gotta admire that ability.
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
Yes, asterisk everything ! Cancel all wins post 30…doesn’t count because old.

Real slam count ->
Fed - 16
Nadal - 14
Djokovic - 12

Then the young ones take over
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
5 stages of grief: Novak GOAT edition

Denial: Novak will never even come close to winning as many slams as Fedal
Anger: Novak simply vultured his slams <- YOU ARE HERE
Bargaining: OK, let’s accept he won all he did but no pretty backhand
Depression: I can‘t believe Novak will end up as GOAT
Acceptance: He is the One
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
No asterisk is needed, because Djokovic can overcome any opposition, as in 10-1 record against Federer and Nadal in his last 11 Slam matches against them.

And don't say they were washed up and old. In that span, if they had overcame Djokovic, Federer would've added 5 more Slam tittles, and Nadal 3 more.
 

Kralingen

Legend
Honestly I wanted to agree with the post but your constant use of “asterix” instead of “asterisk” triggered me, bud.

Also, and this is the funny thing, even though I agree with the sentiments, I disagree with your conclusion. Here’s why - Djokovic faced:

-the most in-form HC player in the world in Medvedev (20 straight wins) and Zverev who was a finalist at the USO
-the most in-form clay player in the world in Tsitsipas and Nadal who wasn’t playing injured the first 3 sets
-the most in-form grass player in the world in Berrettini whose serve was untouchable all tourney

So he really did beat the very best the tour had to offer. I don’t believe in asterisks for this reason.

Weak, definitely, but then again this is why no one has won the first 3 slams in 50 years. It takes a rare set of circumstances to produce this situation.
 
Honestly I wanted to agree with the post but your constant use of “asterix” instead of “asterisk” triggered me, bud.

Also, and this is the funny thing, even though I agree with the sentiments, I disagree with your conclusion. Here’s why - Djokovic faced:

-the most in-form HC player in the world in Medvedev (20 straight wins) and Zverev who was a finalist at the USO
-the most in-form clay player in the world in Tsitsipas and Nadal who wasn’t playing injured the first 3 sets
-the most in-form grass player in the world in Berrettini whose serve was untouchable all tourney

So he really did beat the very best the tour had to offer. I don’t believe in asterisks for this reason.

Weak, definitely, but then again this is why no one has won the first 3 slams in 50 years. It takes a rare set of circumstances to produce this situation.
Sorry I’m not a native English speaker :(
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
There's no doubt that if Federer or Nadal managed to outlast the others, and was the last one standing; fans of either would be celebrating and extolling their champion.

In '17-18, when Djokovic had the elbow injury, and Federer and Nadal were sharing all the spoils, there wasn't much lamenting about the diminishing of the field. Curious, once Djokovic had his elbow operation and came back, the spoils (except RG) to Federer and Nadal ended immediately. So maybe asterisks are really needed, for the 3 slams Federer won in that span. Federer didn't win any Slam before or after the Djokovic injury, but only during it. Curious, isn't it?
 
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Biggest * should be the 237 consecutive weeks at number 1 record. Number 2 being Andy Roddick who had 0 clay court game then baby Nadal who went out early at every HC slam until 2008.
Better than Tsitsipas, Medmedev and Zverev with 0 grass court games. The best this generation has to offer are collectively useless on grass. Zverev at age 24 has never beaten a single top 10 player at a slam. Goffin, Raonic, Dimitrov and Nishikori collectively achieving nothing as a generation of players. Pathetic. I think Novak’s weeks at no. 1 should be adjusted for competition by removing 2018-2021.
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
Better than Tsitsipas, Medmedev and Zverev with 0 grass court games. The best this generation has to offer are collectively useless on grass. Zverev at age 24 has never beaten a single top 10 player at a slam. Goffin, Raonic, Dimitrov and Nishikori collectively achieving nothing as a generation of players. Pathetic. I think Novak’s weeks should be adjusted for competition by removing 2018-2021.
Grass is only a small part of the season though. Roddick’s 0 clay court game has far more impact on the rankings. So does 06-07 Nadal generally being average on HC.
 
Seriously? That’s extremely impressive given how accurate your idioms and turn of phrase are in the fake articles. I know many native English speakers who could never produce writing like that, ever, lol. Was mainly joking about the asterix thing ;)
What do you mean with ”fake” articles?

edit: also thanks for the compliment!
 
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NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
AO17... Prime Nishikori, prime Wawrinka, 30 year old Nadal. All beaten in five sets.
Nole fans: ASTERISK ASTERISK
Wimbledon 18 - 32 year old Nadal defeated in 5 set epic
AO 19 - 32.5 year old Nadal who dropped 0 sets thrashed in straights
Wimbledon 19 - Fed in prime form defeated saving MPs
AO 20 - peak Thiem defeated in 5 sets coming from 1-2 down
RG 21 - 4 time defending champ Nadal defeated in 4 sets then came back from 2 sets down to defeat Tsitsipas.
 

egrorian

Rookie
On the contrary, Djokovic winning the Calendar Slam would be one of finest ever achievements. And it's puzzling to me how a person tries convincing himself to think otherwise just because he supports a different player.
^ As I see it, this is 100% on the money. All this talk of asterisks is a total crock.
 
AO 19 - 32 year old Nadal who dropped 0 sets thrashed in straights
Wimbledon 19 - Fed in prime form defeated saving MPs
AO 20 - peak Thiem defeated in 5 sets coming from 1-2 down
RG 21 - 4 time defending champ Nadal defeated in 4 sets then came back from 2 sets down to defeat Tsitsipas.
RG 21 - 4 time defending champ and clearly injured Nadal defeated in 4 sets then Tsitsipas let Djokovic out of jail and win in 5 in an epic choke.

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On the contrary, Djokovic winning the Calendar Slam would be one of finest ever achievements. And it's puzzling to me how a person tries convincing himself to think otherwise just because he supports a different player.
You see everything in black and white. Anyone actually watching the matches being played could conclude the obvious: no other ATG has had such a low level of play and mentality to deal with from opponents. This is not a matter of me being a fan of another player. I actually believe Djokovic’s 2011 season is one of the highest levels ever displayed, maybe even the best, and would smoke the 2021 version with ease.
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
slams won without beating one of the three highest ranked opponents:

Federer 10
Djokovic 1

Federer still the statistical objective undisputed king of all vultures.
Wow, 50% of Federer's entire haul should have asterisks next to them.

And it took Djokovic years and his 20th Slam to win an easy one.
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
RG 21 - 4 time defending champ and clearly injured Nadal defeated in 4 sets then Tsitsipas let Djokovic out of jail and win in 5 in an epic choke.

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When did the injury occur ? When he was 5-0 up 1st set or where he had set points in the 3rd to go 2-1 up?

So Tsitsipas choked despite never being in a position to win. Do you also rule that 07 & 09 Wimbledon are choke wins for Federer? :whistle:
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Remember OP’s threads about how Fed’s 2017-2018 slams should all be asterisked?

me neither.

good times :-D ;)
Federer, at an even older age than Djokovic is now, wins two Marin Cryic Opens - Form is temporary class is eternal, others could never pull off that longevity, 20 > 12, GOAT IMPREGNATE US :love:

Djokovic, going through tougher opponents than that, catches up - old age achievements are worthless, stop the count, asterisk weeks, asterisk Slams, tennis is dead, listen to what Rolex says

Lovely jubbly. :D
 

Spencer Gore

Hall of Fame
Nonetheless, Medvedev’s shameful performance shouldn’t even have mattered. Novak Djokovic in any other era wouldn’t have reached the final.
So true. Back in Federer's strong era it wasn't guys like Djokovic who were making the final, it was contested by giants of the game like Rainer Schuttler, Marcos Baghdatis and Fernando Gonzalez. How Federer managed to even compete in such an era, never mind win some titles, we'll never know.
 
So true. Back in Federer's strong era it wasn't guys like Djokovic who were making the final, it was contested by giants of the game like Rainer Schuttler, Marcos Baghdatis and Fernando Gonzalez. How Federer managed to even compete in such an era, never mind win some titles, we'll never know.
Fernando Gonzalez of AO07 would have beaten AO21 Djokovic in maximum4 sets.
 
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