The Bjorn Borg Saga

rod99

Professional
Has anyone seen The Bjorn Borg Saga on the tennis channel? i saw it this morning and it's an hour long documentary. it takes you through his life before tennis, during tennis, and after tennis (including drugs, failed business, and suicide attempt). really fascinating story and almost sad in a way. i'd recommend everyone to watch it if you get a chance. lots of clips that i had never seen before (playing tennis b/f he turned pro).
 
rod99 said:
Has anyone seen The Bjorn Borg Saga on the tennis channel? i saw it this morning and it's an hour long documentary. it takes you through his life before tennis, during tennis, and after tennis (including drugs, failed business, and suicide attempt). really fascinating story and almost sad in a way. i'd recommend everyone to watch it if you get a chance. lots of clips that i had never seen before (playing tennis b/f he turned pro).
sadly I dont get the tennis channel. He may have been the greatest tennis player to walk on this planet. NO ONE HAS EVER DONE SO MUCH SO FAST. His star shone the brightest and the shortest. He retired at like 26 and he won something like 5 wimbledons and 6 French opens IN A ROW!(note I said something like!!!). He also made it to the finals of the US open losing only to guys like Mcenroe in his prime! Did he ever play at the AO? I think he never wanted to fly all the way down there so he just skipped it...am I correct?
 

Rhino

Legend
The Pusher Terminator said:
Did he ever play at the AO? I think he never wanted to fly all the way down there so he just skipped it...am I correct?
Yeah he played the AO in 1974, making it to the 3rd round. At that time he'd yet to win a slam, but he then won the next one, the 1974 Roland Garros.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Not sure if he was the first to limit his schedule but Borg only averaged 13 tourneys/year. Read the ATP was ready to force Borg to qualify for the majors due to his lack of tournament play in 1982 before he retired.
 

rafael

Rookie
He valued majors and practice over playing other tournaments like other players do. Before each wimbledon he would practice constantly after the FO while other people were playing Queens or other grass warmups.
 
Ronaldo said:
Not sure if he was the first to limit his schedule but Borg only averaged 13 tourneys/year. Read the ATP was ready to force Borg to qualify for the majors due to his lack of tournament play in 1982 before he retired.
Its true! I understand that is why he quit tennis. He took a well deserved break...and when he returned the Governing tennis body forced, arguably the greatest tennis player in the world, to qualify!!! I think his record spoke for itself. Why should he have to qualify for anything...he is Borg!Rather than deal with qualifications , he simply quit tennis. After that the "Borg rule" was instituted. "Any former grandslam winner automatically qualifies". Thats why Navratilova did not have to qualify!

Had Borg played today he would not have been even ranked in the top 10 because of the lack of tournaments he would play. The rules really need to be changed! if you win a grandslam you should automatically be ranked in the top ten for the whole year...end of story!!! check out my blurb on this topic:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=80682
 

rod99

Professional
he claimed in the documentary that he was burnt out and tired of the traveling and practicing. he had played tennis pratically everyday for 10 years and was through with it. mcenroe asked him "you're 25 years old, what are you going to do with the rest of your life. all we know is tennis." unfortunately he made some bad decisions after that.
 

Cyclops

New User
What TV?

rod99 said:
Has anyone seen The Bjorn Borg Saga on the tennis channel? i saw it this morning and it's an hour long documentary........
There's a tennis channel????
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Rhino, believe the ATP includes those WCT 32 man tourneys and the Tennis Corner does not. Surprised Sampras did not face the same penalty.
 

Sixpointone

Professional
Hi Rod, yes, a couple months ago I did see the Bjorn Borg Saga as The Tennis Channel was airing it then.

I love Tennis documentaries, and this one in specific was highly interesting to me. I would say if one does have the chance to check it out, to do so, as I rate it highly.

And yes Cyclops, there is indeed a Tennis Channel. Mind you not all cable systems carry it. In case you are interested, I'd check with your local Cable company to see if it might be available in your market.

Also, their website is www.thetennischannel.com

Regards,
John
 

goober

Legend
rod99 said:
he claimed in the documentary that he was burnt out and tired of the traveling and practicing. he had played tennis pratically everyday for 10 years and was through with it. mcenroe asked him "you're 25 years old, what are you going to do with the rest of your life. all we know is tennis." unfortunately he made some bad decisions after that.

I remember an TV interview when he made his failed comeback and his eventual play on the seniors tour. He basically said he was doing it not because he loved tennis but because he was broke.
 

Jet Rink

Semi-Pro
Ronaldo said:
Not sure if he was the first to limit his schedule but Borg only averaged 13 tourneys/year. Read the ATP was ready to force Borg to qualify for the majors due to his lack of tournament play in 1982 before he retired.
This is correct - Bjorn had vacillated between qualifying (unbelievable on the part of the ITF) and retiring and opted to retire. What a loss for sport as a whole.

Strong case can be made that he did the impossible (RG/Wimbledon back-to-back multiples) then was a finalist at the USO so many times.

Gives real cred to the idea of an off-season too, re: his stance to skip the Australian.

Jet
 

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
rod99 said:
all we know is tennis." unfortunately he made some bad decisions after that.
Could you elaborate on this a bit? I don't really know much about his life after he retired, but I have heard that he had a suicide attempt that was covered up and also that he did a lot of drugs.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
in those days none of the top players played the australian open. in the early 80's i think they started fiddling around with the schedule (it used to be in december during christmas), borg was aware of the grand slam feat (all 4 majors in one year), but after he lost the us open he probly felt no reason to go there. if he had won the us open im sure he probly would have played the aus open to try to seal the deal.

as for retirement i think it was a combination of burn out and mcenroe. if he had not lost the no 1 ranking i think he would have kept playing but with mcenroe overtaking him at wimby and the usopen he realized how much work and training he would have to do to compete and regain his top ranking and i dont think he was willing to do that he was tired of it. borg seemed to be a very goal oriented person to me. he gave mcenroe, who was trying to regain his top ranking from lendl after losing to him in the us open, a pep talk in 85 to play the australian open at the end of the year saying - if ur not no1 whats the diff whether ur 2, 3 or 5... or something like that
 

rod99

Professional
Steve Dykstra said:
Could you elaborate on this a bit? I don't really know much about his life after he retired, but I have heard that he had a suicide attempt that was covered up and also that he did a lot of drugs.

after retiring he made up for some lost time by (according to his then wife) began to live his life more normally. this included some drug use, which he first picked up on from his friend vitas. his failed business (BBDG=Bjorn Borg Design Group) was opening and looked to be real promising. his suicide attempt scared off some of the investors but borg made a second run at opening the business but owed a lot of money to his creditors. they interviewed his business partner for his american operation and he flat out said that borg lied to him and that he was a bad apple. this is b/c borg claimed he would pay off his creditors and never did (and this made the american looked real bad on wall street). borg claims that he had no money but the documentary clearly disputes that. the documentary ends (i think it was done in the late '90s) saying that borg had a girlfriend but was living with his parents (which it shows) in sweden and playing on the seniors tour (where his parents still attend his matches) in order to make money. kind of sad that a guy of his stature (and they truly show that he did have an almost God like status for much of his life) is now 40 something years old and living with his parents and broke.

they also talked about how the amount of $ he gave to bergelin (his coach) was "peanuts" and bergelin was clearly hurt by this.

the best quote was when borg was in hawaii and a guy came up to him. the guy said he was on his honeymoon and the best gift that he could give to his new wife was for borg to have sex with her. borg just walked away but the guy kept following. when they got to the elevator, borg's only words were, "i don't do it with married women." classic.
 

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
Thanks rod, that was an interesting read 8)

rod99 said:
the best quote was when borg was in hawaii and a guy came up to him. the guy said he was on his honeymoon and the best gift that he could give to his new wife was for borg to have sex with her. borg just walked away but the guy kept following. when they got to the elevator, borg's only words were, "i don't do it with married women." classic.
I must wonder what the heck is wrong with this guy (the honeymooner).
 
Borg was probably the biggest sex symbol in tennis history. Police had to save Borg from a mob of women at his first Wimbledon.
 
Borg was the true Iceman. At the italian open...Panetta was beating everybody basically because he was Italian. The crowd would yell and throw pennies at all of his opponents. Panetta beat everyone. Then in the final he faced Borg. The crowd yelled and screamed and threw all kinds of crap at Borg. They made what that French crowd in nadal Vs, Grosjean this year look like a bunch of little girls.

Guess what Borg did...absolutely nothing! Not a smile or even a look of disgust....he just kept his face stone cold and beat the crap out of Panetta...the man was awesome! he made Sampras look emotional! he had the greatest mental game the sport has ever seen. in fact i will go a step further...Borg had the greatest mental game that any sport has ever seen.
Borg truly was the ICEMAN!!!

Borg was also the real father of the modern game. Most people believe it was lendl...but that is just not true. Borg was the first one to use the open stance. Borg was also using a western grip hitting forehand topspin shots and a double backhand with topspin as well. Evreyone else was using continental. Borgs topspin looped way more than todays laser beams...but thats because he was using a wood racquet...while Lendl played with a graohite. What is truly amazing to me is that Borg had a winning record against Lendl even though ivan used a graphite racquet. Borg consistently beat lendl with a wood racquet! WOW!!!!
 
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