THE CLASH equals TRASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Review II for the Clash Tour

I took the Clash Tour for another round today, I played with my regular hitting partner a strong 5.0 player who hits a heavy ball. I started the session playing with my TC100 v3 and after about 20 min I shifted to Clash Tour - That was perhaps not the smartest thing to do, as I am growing more and more fond of the TC100. The Clash Tour (about the same weight and balance as the Angell) was just hollow. Same experience as last time, I simply don't like this racquet at all, I actually dont see any good points compared to the Angell, I think the TC100 even plays softer. I put the Class Tour away after 15 minutes, no way I could stand up to my hitting partners heavy shots with that racquet.

Clash Tour is for sure not a racquet for me, nothing felt right, inconsistent power and launch angel, no touch or feel at all, no control for me.

BUT the a strange thing happened, after one hour my normal hitting partner had to leave for work, and a good friend came by, he is a 3.0 player at the best a 3.5, his normal stick is a Head Microgel Radical MP 18x20. We started playing and he would spay balls around, being inconsistent as some 3.0 player are, I was just running around repairing and playing straight back to him. Then I asked him to have a hit with the Clash Tour, and much to my surprise he instantly upped his game, more power more consistency in his shots, everything was suddenly better. He said that this racquet was very easy to play with - just the opposite of my opinion as I find it very difficult to hit with.

So with my own eyes I could suddenly see how good the Clash Tour can perform in the hands of the right player.

I have to take my words back from my earlier review, the Clash Tour is not garbage, Clash can be an excellent racquet for the right players, I can surely see this now.

Final conclusion: I hated almost everything about the Clash Tour, and my hitting partner (the 5.0 guy) also had no control over the racquet when he tried it for 10-15 minutes. But my 3.0 buddy had much more control and power at the same time with the Clash, more so than with his regular 18x20 racquet. This racquet acts strange, but in the hands of the right player it can perform really well.

Cheers, Toby

My experience echos yours. My wife hits a more consistent deeper ball with it but I get nothing good out of it.
That’s why I’ve facetiously labeled it the 3.5 ladies racket.
 

MCN

Rookie
I’ve not hit with the Clash, but it seems that it might indeed be for lower ranked recreational players from what I’ve read. I remember similar Wilson racquets (in terms of marketing hype) such as the ‘Rollers’ which gave easy power but inflicted tennis elbow on users because of its low weight and the Wilson Steam 99S (which I tried to use for a couple of weeks before deciding it was uncontrollable and too erratic a stringbed). If the Clash does help recreational players with their game ( and enjoyment) and at the same time not damaging their arm, then it’s surely a good thing? On a final note, I know of one lady player who has switched to the Clash and says it’s improved her game with ‘more power’. She can only hit the ball at about 20mph at the best of times, so I can see that she’d like this frame as it would push her shots more easily towards the baseline and higher over the net. But I’m speculating here, and I’ll keep an open mind and try a Clash demo one day. I do wonder whether there will be lots of 2nd hand Clashes for sale in a year’s time, just as there was with the ‘revolutionary’ Steam....
 
Review II for the Clash Tour

I took the Clash Tour for another round today, I played with my regular hitting partner a strong 5.0 player who hits a heavy ball. I started the session playing with my TC100 v3 and after about 20 min I shifted to Clash Tour - That was perhaps not the smartest thing to do, as I am growing more and more fond of the TC100. The Clash Tour (about the same weight and balance as the Angell) was just hollow. Same experience as last time, I simply don't like this racquet at all, I actually dont see any good points compared to the Angell, I think the TC100 even plays softer. I put the Class Tour away after 15 minutes, no way I could stand up to my hitting partners heavy shots with that racquet.

Clash Tour is for sure not a racquet for me, nothing felt right, inconsistent power and launch angel, no touch or feel at all, no control for me.

BUT the a strange thing happened, after one hour my normal hitting partner had to leave for work, and a good friend came by, he is a 3.0 player at the best a 3.5, his normal stick is a Head Microgel Radical MP 18x20. We started playing and he would spay balls around, being inconsistent as some 3.0 player are, I was just running around repairing and playing straight back to him. Then I asked him to have a hit with the Clash Tour, and much to my surprise he instantly upped his game, more power more consistency in his shots, everything was suddenly better. He said that this racquet was very easy to play with - just the opposite of my opinion as I find it very difficult to hit with.

So with my own eyes I could suddenly see how good the Clash Tour can perform in the hands of the right player.

I have to take my words back from my earlier review, the Clash Tour is not garbage, Clash can be an excellent racquet for the right players, I can surely see this now.

Final conclusion: I hated almost everything about the Clash Tour, and my hitting partner (the 5.0 guy) also had no control over the racquet when he tried it for 10-15 minutes. But my 3.0 buddy had much more control and power at the same time with the Clash, more so than with his regular 18x20 racquet. This racquet acts strange, but in the hands of the right player it can perform really well.

Cheers, Toby
What a great testimony written above !
GreAt and super informative post loved this!
I too echo all of this but could never write it out this good .
Have a 3.0 3.5 ladie who is a client . She was using a pure aero vs . With lead! Strange I know . Strung with pro hurricane at 58 lbs . Her old pro set this up for her . And told her this is what I use so your gonna LOVE IT !
She came to me 3 weeks ago in an arm brace and considering surgery for wrist pain.
First thing first get that racket out of her hands . To make matters worse she was using a grip size 0. How on Earth ? Didn’t know these came in 0 ?
Well they don’t . Her old “ pro” widdled it down to a kinda 0 ish size .
Anyway I grabbed the softest demo I had with a grip size 4.
Her first feel before hitting a ball was “ I hate this”
Hate this grip . It hurts my wrist .
Hmmm I said well hit 5 balls and then see .
She did and her pain dropped a bit . Nothing miracle . But a liked where we were headed .
Finished the private with that. Next lesson the clash demo was in . We proceeded the lesson with it . A built up grip to a 4 . 4 and 1/2 that is .
She played ok . But more importantly a lot less fatigue and less pain .
I was excited she was over the moon . She bought 2 that day ! Score for Wilson . And it made me happy to see her hit w/ out wincing in pain .
Moral here :
Your teaching pro is not gospel on picking out the correct racket for you :)
Also the clash as the Op
Said is not for everyone :) but for some it’s the perfect frame .
Hurting folks :) who need more “ pop “
And my biggest pet peeve ..
3.0 players have NO BUSINESS USING POLY .
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Hurting folks :) who need more “ pop “

Definitely this is the group I'd target with this racket. As I said above, "3.5 ladies racket of choice"

3.0 players have NO BUSINESS USING POLY .

Yes I agree. My wife has poly in her Clash but only because it was the free string they offered when she bought the racket. But she'll be moving to multi with her next stringing. Poly should be banned for beginning players.
 

Rocket54

New User
So I took out the non tour version for a spin, it came in at 309g with 32.5 cm balance, 3/8 no overgrip wilson dampner strung with 16g synth gut at 55lbs. The frame was very light to swing with NO stability. Now I can see why many are leading up. This was a doodle hitting a marshmellow. I might consider feeding with frame to 12 and under kids but my plus 14 year olds would destroy my arm with it. I am going to cut out the demo string and give this worm another go with lead, so far Trash lite :) USELESS LOL
More lols. Such a pro
 

TennisHound

Legend
What a great testimony written above !
GreAt and super informative post loved this!
I too echo all of this but could never write it out this good .
Have a 3.0 3.5 ladie who is a client . She was using a pure aero vs . With lead! Strange I know . Strung with pro hurricane at 58 lbs . Her old pro set this up for her . And told her this is what I use so your gonna LOVE IT !
She came to me 3 weeks ago in an arm brace and considering surgery for wrist pain.
First thing first get that racket out of her hands . To make matters worse she was using a grip size 0. How on Earth ? Didn’t know these came in 0 ?
Well they don’t . Her old “ pro” widdled it down to a kinda 0 ish size .
Anyway I grabbed the softest demo I had with a grip size 4.
Her first feel before hitting a ball was “ I hate this”
Hate this grip . It hurts my wrist .
Hmmm I said well hit 5 balls and then see .
She did and her pain dropped a bit . Nothing miracle . But a liked where we were headed .
Finished the private with that. Next lesson the clash demo was in . We proceeded the lesson with it . A built up grip to a 4 . 4 and 1/2 that is .
She played ok . But more importantly a lot less fatigue and less pain .
I was excited she was over the moon . She bought 2 that day ! Score for Wilson . And it made me happy to see her hit w/ out wincing in pain .
Moral here :
Your teaching pro is not gospel on picking out the correct racket for you :)
Also the clash as the Op
Said is not for everyone :) but for some it’s the perfect frame .
Hurting folks :) who need more “ pop “
And my biggest pet peeve ..
3.0 players have NO BUSINESS USING POLY .
Gawd, club pros...
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Missed another great opportunity to produce a line of 6.1 frames. They only need to produce a 16x19 and a 18x20. A lighter version of each and the 12.3 version of each and take the tennis world by storm. The majority of professional players using Wilson are using them covered up with Blade and Pro Staff paint. Those frames would be used by the juniors collegiate players, 4.0+ men and women players. Great market for it.
 
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DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
I just came back from testing.

Clash 100 > Clash 100 Tour. The light version is an easy and fun racquet to play with that does most things good...very solid for its low weight. I would definitely recommend it to a recreational player that wants sth to start with. Very arm friendly and that’s it. Just a decent light racquet like Dr 98 Light, Prince 100T and many other good sticks out there.

Tour version gives you the feel that it punches the ball harder than the light version and obviously feel and feedback are better. But does it gives you better results ??? NO. What a weird rackquet Wilson has produced. The only thing that Wilson revolutionized is INCONSISTENCY!!!!!!!.

Inconsistency on this racquet hits new levels. It’s not like baboblasts where you just have to tame the power. It behaves very weird. I enjoyed the feel... people are wrong when comparing it with prince racquets. It’s sth unique and different. Very plush and soft but not muted. For a modern stick feedback is more than ok!!!

But WTF is wrong with this racquet??? Performance is bananas. Some said that the harder you hit the more power you ll get.... and more control when you tone down a bit. Yeah it happens but the problem is that same behavior can happen on the other way around. I kept wondering why some of my shots when were technically correct balls will behave as it should and the next time when i tried a similar swing the outcome would be different.

3 huge problems with Clash Tour:
1) I can’t believe why Wilson decided to give at a tweener stick such a small sweetspot. It gets unbelievable powerless on shots outside the center. You can’t play defense when opponents open up the court and you are on the run. Also it lacks punch on serves.
2)I believe inconsistency comes from the TOO
MUCH of plushness . You must have fast swing. The longer the ball will stay on the string the more it will behave like a slingshot with various unpredictable outcomes. Also those who play flat just forget it. If you won’t apply a decent amount of top spin it will behave like a baboblast. It gives you ZERO CONFIDENCE to attack on the ball. It didn’t give confidence even when slicing the ball. Ball stays a lot on the string but it’s like having ZERO byte. So you feel the ball but in the same time you don’t know where the ball will go....and i am referring in terms of depth where it will land not the direction of it.
3)It shouldn’t be so headlight. Another reason of spraying balls when going for winners. It lacks weight on the head.

Clash tour is a HUGE NO for me. I am not interested to loose time and tame it. If only 98 versions will have a thinner beam i will give them a try. Burn CV is one of the best 100inch racquets Wilson has ever produced. Specially the S version. It has the power of baboblasts but it also gives you the all around game of a smaller head size. I don’t know what went wrong with marketing those sticks. Maybe they didn’t marketed them at all.

I am very disappointed with most of the modern racquets i play with. If only next Blades will be completely trash like the CV versions then i ll have to stock up some more 2015 Blade’s.

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Ps- due to its inconsistency I was trying so hard to produce shots on sweetspot and as a result i got sore elbow at the end of my testing.
 
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Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
I just came back from testing.

Clash 100 > Clash 100 Tour. The light version is an easy and fun racquet to play with that does most things good...very solid for its low weight. I would definitely recommend it to a recreational player that wants sth to start with. Very arm friendly and that’s it. Just a decent light racquet like Dr 98 Light, Prince 100T and many other good sticks out there.

Tour version gives you the feel that it punches the ball harder than the light version and obviously feel and feedback are better. But does it gives you better results ??? NO. What a weird rackquet Wilson has produced. The only thing that Wilson revolutionized is INCONSISTENCY!!!!!!!.

Inconsistency on this racquet hits new levels. It’s not like baboblasts where you just have to tame the power. It behaves very weird. I enjoyed the feel... people are wrong when comparing it with prince racquets. It’s sth unique and different. Very plush and soft but not muted. For a modern stick feedback is more than ok!!!

But WTF is wrong with this racquet??? Performance is bananas. Some said that the harder you hit the more power you ll get.... and more control when you tone down a bit. Yeah it happens but the problem is that same behavior can happen on the other way around. I kept wondering why some of my shots when were technically correct balls will behave as it should and the next time when i tried a similar swing the outcome would be different.

3 huge problems with Clash Tour:
1) I can’t believe why Wilson decided to give at a tweener stick such a small sweetspot. It gets unbelievable powerless on shots outside the center. You can’t play defense when opponents open up the court and you are on the run. Also it lacks punch on serves.
2)I believe inconsistency comes from the TOO
MUCH of plushness . You must have fast swing. The longer the ball will stay on the string the more it will behave like a slingshot with various unpredictable outcomes. Also those who play flat just forget it. If you won’t apply a decent amount of top spin it will behave like a baboblast. It gives you ZERO CONFIDENCE to attack on the ball. It didn’t give confidence even when slicing the ball. Ball stays a lot on the string but it’s like having ZERO byte. So you feel the ball but in the same time you don’t know where the ball will go....and i am referring in terms of depth where it will land not the direction of it.
3)It shouldn’t be so headlight. Another reason of spraying balls when going for winners. It lacks weight on the head.

Clash tour is a HUGE NO for me. I am not interested to loose time and tame it. If only 98 versions will have a thinner beam i will give them a try. Burn CV is one of the best 100inch racquets Wilson has ever produced. Specially the S version. It has the power of baboblasts but it also gives you the all around game of a smaller head size. I don’t know what went wrong with marketing those sticks. Maybe they didn’t marketed them at all.

I am very disappointed with most of the modern racquets i play with. If only next Blades will be completely trash like the CV versions then i ll have to stock up some more 2015 Blade’s.

6745304ab4229ebfc351a0326f406726.jpg


Ps- due to its inconsistency I was trying so hard to produce shots on sweetspot and as a result i got sore elbow at the end of my testing.
What string and tension setup did you use? I am experimenting with different setups before I say yay or nay. If I say nay. Someone will get a good deal on ****.

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Deleted member 54265

Guest
Wilson sensation 1.25/24kg.

Exactly what I had on my demo Clash Tour too, and my eperience with the racquet is very close to yours.

This is for sure not a racquet for me. However my good friend 3.0 player got both more power and consistency when he tried the racquet. I have no idea how, but standing on the other side of the net could surely tell.

I dont get this racquet, but I am sure that it can be the right one for some players.

Cheers, Toby
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Exactly what I had on my demo Clash Tour too, and my eperience with the racquet is very close to yours.

This is for sure not a racquet for me. However my good friend 3.0 player got both more power and consistency when he tried the racquet. I have no idea how, but standing on the other side of the net could surely tell.

I dont get this racquet, but I am sure that it can be the right one for some players.

Cheers, Toby
Sensation is a horrible string. Mushy and no feel.
 
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Deleted member 54265

Guest
Sensation is a horrible string. Mushy and no feel.

I like multi strings, but never tried sensation before. The racquet came strung with sensation. I dont think I could blame the strings for the low unconsistant performance of the Clash Tour.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I like multi strings, but never tried sensation before. The racquet came strung with sensation. I dont think I could blame the strings for the low unconsistant performance of the Clash Tour.
Poor play is never due to strings or racquets. That’s on the player. ;)
 

Alan_Hill

Rookie
I just came back from testing.

Clash 100 > Clash 100 Tour. The light version is an easy and fun racquet to play with that does most things good...very solid for its low weight. I would definitely recommend it to a recreational player that wants sth to start with. Very arm friendly and that’s it. Just a decent light racquet like Dr 98 Light, Prince 100T and many other good sticks out there.

Tour version gives you the feel that it punches the ball harder than the light version and obviously feel and feedback are better. But does it gives you better results ??? NO. What a weird rackquet Wilson has produced. The only thing that Wilson revolutionized is INCONSISTENCY!!!!!!!.

Inconsistency on this racquet hits new levels. It’s not like baboblasts where you just have to tame the power. It behaves very weird. I enjoyed the feel... people are wrong when comparing it with prince racquets. It’s sth unique and different. Very plush and soft but not muted. For a modern stick feedback is more than ok!!!

But WTF is wrong with this racquet??? Performance is bananas. Some said that the harder you hit the more power you ll get.... and more control when you tone down a bit. Yeah it happens but the problem is that same behavior can happen on the other way around. I kept wondering why some of my shots when were technically correct balls will behave as it should and the next time when i tried a similar swing the outcome would be different.

3 huge problems with Clash Tour:
1) I can’t believe why Wilson decided to give at a tweener stick such a small sweetspot. It gets unbelievable powerless on shots outside the center. You can’t play defense when opponents open up the court and you are on the run. Also it lacks punch on serves.
2)I believe inconsistency comes from the TOO
MUCH of plushness . You must have fast swing. The longer the ball will stay on the string the more it will behave like a slingshot with various unpredictable outcomes. Also those who play flat just forget it. If you won’t apply a decent amount of top spin it will behave like a baboblast. It gives you ZERO CONFIDENCE to attack on the ball. It didn’t give confidence even when slicing the ball. Ball stays a lot on the string but it’s like having ZERO byte. So you feel the ball but in the same time you don’t know where the ball will go....and i am referring in terms of depth where it will land not the direction of it.
3)It shouldn’t be so headlight. Another reason of spraying balls when going for winners. It lacks weight on the head.

Clash tour is a HUGE NO for me. I am not interested to loose time and tame it. If only 98 versions will have a thinner beam i will give them a try. Burn CV is one of the best 100inch racquets Wilson has ever produced. Specially the S version. It has the power of baboblasts but it also gives you the all around game of a smaller head size. I don’t know what went wrong with marketing those sticks. Maybe they didn’t marketed them at all.

I am very disappointed with most of the modern racquets i play with. If only next Blades will be completely trash like the CV versions then i ll have to stock up some more 2015 Blade’s.

6745304ab4229ebfc351a0326f406726.jpg


Ps- due to its inconsistency I was trying so hard to produce shots on sweetspot and as a result i got sore elbow at the end of my testing.
Cut that sht dude.
You need some poly, pump the crosses 4lbs higher than mains. You'll find the consistency.
I think 2 versions feel very different. But they have the same problem: launch angle. Too high for some shot. Make you lose confidence.
All you need is to lock down the string bed a little. I strung 2lbs higher in crosses. It's totally new chapter.

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Cut that sht dude.
You need some poly, pump the crosses 4lbs higher than mains. You'll find the consistency.
I think 2 versions feel very different. But they have the same problem: launch angle. Too high for some shot. Make you lose confidence.
All you need is to lock down the string bed a little. I strung 2lbs higher in crosses. It's totally new chapter.

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If a racquet cant play well with a normal strin setup, it is a low performance stick IMO
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
If a person don't know to find the best setup, he is a low performance tennis player IMO

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+1 quoted for truth!

A high performance formula 1 race car driver is not just responsible for driving the car fast, but he is also responsible for understanding the setup of the suspension and brakes and communicate to the team how to get even more performance out of the equipment.
 
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Guest
If a person don't know to find the best setup, he is a low performance tennis player IMO

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Oh I do know how to find the best setup, hence my Clash review :D
 
Good news for us looking to purchase a Clash tour. Will check **** and pick another one up cheap! Great racket for me, reminds me of the old nsix.one only better.

The Clash and n95 do share a similar muted feel but the Clash is much easier to use.


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Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Cut that sht dude.
You need some poly, pump the crosses 4lbs higher than mains. You'll find the consistency.
I think 2 versions feel very different. But they have the same problem: launch angle. Too high for some shot. Make you lose confidence.
All you need is to lock down the string bed a little. I strung 2lbs higher in crosses. It's totally new chapter.

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Can you get the launch angle lowered with a multi setup ? I typically use multis in my wife's rackets since she's a flat hitter and doesn't need the spin of poly strings and certainly doesn't need the arm issues from poly. I've got some Triumph from Tier One and thinking of replacing the Lux Smart with it for her with her next stringing. The Smart at 52 lbs definitely launches the ball high. I was thinking Triumph at 58lbs but maybe 54 mains and 58 crosses?
 

Alan_Hill

Rookie
Can you get the launch angle lowered with a multi setup ? I typically use multis in my wife's rackets since she's a flat hitter and doesn't need the spin of poly strings and certainly doesn't need the arm issues from poly. I've got some Triumph from Tier One and thinking of replacing the Lux Smart with it for her with her next stringing. The Smart at 52 lbs definitely launches the ball high. I was thinking Triumph at 58lbs but maybe 54 mains and 58 crosses?
I don't think full multi will work. But you can try hybrid as crosses. String 4lbs higher than mains to see.
But IMO you don't need multi in Clash. Yonex Spin G 55lbs without any arm issues to me. It has the most stiffness among poly strings but Clash frame really comfortable.

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mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Been using the tour for a month now and love it. No control issues.
My hitting partners are a former challenger level player now in his late 30's and a 21 yo formerly nationally ranked junior so it's not that we're pushing the ball around.
I didn’t experience any major control issues with the Clash Tour during the demo at the Revolution Tour event either. Compared to the standard Clash, I just felt better connected with the standard and I prefer platform frames that I can lead up. These are both really good frames.
 
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haqq777

Legend
I played with Clash for extended periods of time over the weekend. I had played with Tour version when it wasn't officially released and now after a few players I know purchased the regular version, I gave it a spin again. My usual racquet is Angell TC97 18x20 these days and played with TC100 before that. I always have 2-3 of same type because I like to rotate and in case I break strings.

A little background about me: I gravitate towards comfort and control-oriented frames but that is rather recent in the last few years. I did play with Babolats for over a decade (H.S and DII College) so very varied racquet background for me. I am in my mid thirties and well aware of how I am losing half a step with age (I still hit with DII college players) and health is becoming more of a priority as well.

So coming back, I tried the Clash today and Clash Tour in prototype PJ earlier. I actually liked the Clash, not going to lie. I did not like the Tour as much, but regular Clash is a good stick. The racquet was strung at 52 lbs. Luxilon Element I think it was. Never felt disconnected. Wonderful comfort. And yes, it was ample stable. I did not feel it wobble or twist and I was hitting with #3 player in the college team line up who hits a big, heavy ball. I did feel that I wasn't getting enough depth on court and was leaving ball short even after taking full swings, but nothing a few grams of lead can't change like @SpinToWin alluded to early on in the thread. I also can't seem to agree with how people are saying it has a ridiculous high launch angle. I think even bed 52lbs gave a reasonable launch angle, similar as you would get from say a PD. So I don't know. Pretty normal in my opinion.

So my two cents are that it is a great frame for rec players. It is soft and won't hurt your arm and I am all for industry going in that direction. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate the whole "Revolution" marketing and the hype bit as much as the next person. But can't take away from the fact that it is a good racquet and I can see rec players using it to their advantage. Some are bound to like it, some won't. But that is how it is with every racquet out there.
 

JoelDali

Talk Tennis Guru
The Clash is like the golden ticket that Charlie found in that single Wonka Bar on that bitter cold winter day. The only difference is that all tennis players can purchase their own golden ticket, and have their very own Clash without sacrificing their integrity.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I played with Clash for extended periods of time over the weekend. I had played with Tour version when it wasn't officially released and now after a few players I know purchased the regular version, I gave it a spin again. My usual racquet is Angell TC97 18x20 these days and played with TC100 before that. I always have 2-3 of same type because I like to rotate and in case I break strings.

A little background about me: I gravitate towards comfort and control-oriented frames but that is rather recent in the last few years. I did play with Babolats for over a decade (H.S and DII College) so very varied racquet background for me. I am in my mid thirties and well aware of how I am losing half a step with age (I still hit with DII college players) and health is becoming more of a priority as well.

So coming back, I tried the Clash today and Clash Tour in prototype PJ earlier. I actually liked the Clash, not going to lie. I did not like the Tour as much, but regular Clash is a good stick. The racquet was strung at 52 lbs. Luxilon Element I think it was. Never felt disconnected. Wonderful comfort. And yes, it was ample stable. I did not feel it wobble or twist and I was hitting with #3 player in the college team line up who hits a big, heavy ball. I did feel that I wasn't getting enough depth on court and was leaving ball short even after taking full swings, but nothing a few grams of lead can't change like @SpinToWin alluded to early on in the thread. I also can't seem to agree with how people are saying it has a ridiculous high launch angle. I think even bed 52lbs gave a reasonable launch angle, similar as you would get from say a PD. So I don't know. Pretty normal in my opinion.

So my two cents are that it is a great frame for rec players. It is soft and won't hurt your arm and I am all for industry going in that direction. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate the whole "Revolution" marketing and the hype bit as much as the next person. But can't take away from the fact that it is a good racquet and I can see rec players using it to their advantage. Some are bound to like it, some won't. But that is how it is with every racquet out there.
Great review! Your impressions mirrors mine to a T! the regular Clash works better for me than the Clash Tour. Also at 52/50, no issues with the launch angle either. Really enjoying the frame a lot so far!
 

Nick777

Semi-Pro
I just came back from testing.

Clash 100 > Clash 100 Tour. The light version is an easy and fun racquet to play with that does most things good...very solid for its low weight. I would definitely recommend it to a recreational player that wants sth to start with. Very arm friendly and that’s it. Just a decent light racquet like Dr 98 Light, Prince 100T and many other good sticks out there.

Tour version gives you the feel that it punches the ball harder than the light version and obviously feel and feedback are better. But does it gives you better results ??? NO. What a weird rackquet Wilson has produced. The only thing that Wilson revolutionized is INCONSISTENCY!!!!!!!.

Inconsistency on this racquet hits new levels. It’s not like baboblasts where you just have to tame the power. It behaves very weird. I enjoyed the feel... people are wrong when comparing it with prince racquets. It’s sth unique and different. Very plush and soft but not muted. For a modern stick feedback is more than ok!!!

But WTF is wrong with this racquet??? Performance is bananas. Some said that the harder you hit the more power you ll get.... and more control when you tone down a bit. Yeah it happens but the problem is that same behavior can happen on the other way around. I kept wondering why some of my shots when were technically correct balls will behave as it should and the next time when i tried a similar swing the outcome would be different.

3 huge problems with Clash Tour:
1) I can’t believe why Wilson decided to give at a tweener stick such a small sweetspot. It gets unbelievable powerless on shots outside the center. You can’t play defense when opponents open up the court and you are on the run. Also it lacks punch on serves.
2)I believe inconsistency comes from the TOO
MUCH of plushness . You must have fast swing. The longer the ball will stay on the string the more it will behave like a slingshot with various unpredictable outcomes. Also those who play flat just forget it. If you won’t apply a decent amount of top spin it will behave like a baboblast. It gives you ZERO CONFIDENCE to attack on the ball. It didn’t give confidence even when slicing the ball. Ball stays a lot on the string but it’s like having ZERO byte. So you feel the ball but in the same time you don’t know where the ball will go....and i am referring in terms of depth where it will land not the direction of it.
3)It shouldn’t be so headlight. Another reason of spraying balls when going for winners. It lacks weight on the head.

Clash tour is a HUGE NO for me. I am not interested to loose time and tame it. If only 98 versions will have a thinner beam i will give them a try. Burn CV is one of the best 100inch racquets Wilson has ever produced. Specially the S version. It has the power of baboblasts but it also gives you the all around game of a smaller head size. I don’t know what went wrong with marketing those sticks. Maybe they didn’t marketed them at all.

I am very disappointed with most of the modern racquets i play with. If only next Blades will be completely trash like the CV versions then i ll have to stock up some more 2015 Blade’s.

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Ps- due to its inconsistency I was trying so hard to produce shots on sweetspot and as a result i got sore elbow at the end of my testing.
You should try an Angell...
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
You should try an Angell...

Thanks but Blades 2015 are of the last of the mohicans :)

To be honest i don’t want to try sth which is even more demanding than blades which have the perfect blend of players racquet and ease of power.
 

Nick777

Semi-Pro
Thanks but Blades 2015 are of the last of the mohicans :)

To be honest i don’t want to try sth which is even more demanding than blades which have the perfect blend of players racquet and ease of power.
I ve tried
Thanks but Blades 2015 are of the last of the mohicans :)

To be honest i don’t want to try sth which is even more demanding than blades which have the perfect blend of players racquet and ease of power.
I ve tried the 2015 blade and is a good stick but Angells are superior in any way, higher sw for sure but everything has a trade, k7red is an easy frame to play with and tc100 is a thors hummer, personally i like most TC97, have played with most modern rackets out there but Angells are unique
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Thanks but Blades 2015 are of the last of the mohicans :)

To be honest i don’t want to try sth which is even more demanding than blades which have the perfect blend of players racquet and ease of power.
Not a fan of some of what I perceive to be an Angell elitism at times, but they are good frames. Testing the TC97 side by side with a 2015 Blade 16x19 I found the Angell superior in pretty much all categories - including ease of use. YMMV but don’t think it’s an extraordinarily demanding frame, the 97 at least is right in that Blade ballpark IMO. If you ever have the opportunity to get one out for a spin, go for it, I think you’d probably like it.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Not a fan of some of what I perceive to be an Angell elitism at times, but they are good frames. Testing the TC97 side by side with a 2015 Blade 16x19 I found the Angell superior in pretty much all categories - including ease of use. YMMV but don’t think it’s an extraordinarily demanding frame, the 97 at least is right in that Blade ballpark IMO. If you ever have the opportunity to get one out for a spin, go for it, I think you’d probably like it.
Have you tried the 18/20 blade? I prefer the 2015 blade 18/20 over the 16/19 version.
 
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