Did Haase switch rackets? Thought he played a 90
The Cult of PT57
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Yes, he switched this year from the Prestige Classic/PT10 to the PT57A
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Every time I hit the PT57 I like it better. Frozen rope 1HBH passing shot stopped play on the adjacent court and drew applause from the two 5.0’s playing there
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I’ve been saying since I’ve been on the boards that these racquets are better than what Head is putting out now.
Imago
Hall of Fame
Unfortunately, he lost to Marius Copil yesterday...
PT630Wannabe
Professional
I have 3. Buy it.
FearlessAnimal
Rookie
And what SW it would be? 350 something?
I'm thinking about buying MP Zebra and CAPing it with red Graphene CAPs but I'm terrfied by such high SW. Did you play this CAPed Zebra? Did it feel like sledge hammer compared to PC600 or was it playable?
Arti
Professional
Mine is on the heavier side of the spectrum due to quality control already. With a Pacific calfskin leather grip, TK 293 Black CAP grommets, Wilson Pro Overgrip, and strung with Solinco Tour Bite 16l it is 369 grams, and about 7-8pts headlight. It doesn't feel terribly heavy and I feel fine with it after a 2 set match but that's all I have had a chance to use it for (I won 6-3, 6-2 so it was about an hour and 20 minutes). I don't have access to an RDC anymore, but just from using it and comparing to other racquets I do know the specs of I would say its about 340ish.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
If you don’t I’ll buy it
El_Yotamo
Professional
Amazing stick which I used just earlier today. Definitely one of my favorites, especially CAP'ed, and has a beautiful yellow paint job. Really highly recommend.
djNEiGht
Hall of Fame
waiting on seller...i will pass the info along to you here if I don't. I just spent a boat load of money on dj gear...it's valentines day...10 year anniversary coming up...ARGH! I mean YES!
El_Yotamo
Professional
CAP-ing my Radical MP/Tours (LM, TT, Bumblebee) was definitely an awesome decision as well. The feel is even better, incredible stability, and it really helps customization since you get tons of added SW and TW. Also the frame is protected by the CAPs which is always an added plus to the performance benefits.
PT630Wannabe
Professional
Much appreciated. I'm in Canada though so the shipping would kill it. It's been cheaper for me to source frames in Europe than get them next door in the USA believe it or not.
djNEiGht
Hall of Fame
gotcha. What parts of Canada are you from? I wonder how this would play compared to my iPrestige which I believe is a pt57e. $135 for a frame...hhhhmmm...
PT630Wannabe
Professional
I have a PT57e. I prefer the Bumblebee.
BBM70
New User
Hi, Did you cap your Bumblebee? I am planning to cap one of mine to see how it plays, but not sure if it will affect the maneuverability. I know it is personal preference, but which poly string do you like in it? Thanks
PT630Wannabe
Professional
Haven't had the courage to do that yet. They are pretty hefty already. I have a few sets of LM Prestige MP CAPs lying around if i decide to.
BBM70
New User
Thanks
Arti
Professional
Tourbite
BBM70
New User
I have couple of TK238 grommets. I will cap one of my Bumblebee and try Tourbite (maybe 1.20 or 1.25). Thanks for the suggestion.
I capped my Candycane & I like it better than regular bumper guard. Don't have the guts to cap the Zebras, they are pretty wild already
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Depends whether you like stiff strings or softer strings... round or shaped...
Rounded:
Yonex Poly Tour Pro 17 gauge; Kirschbaum Super Smash (Honey) 17 gauge; Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution and Pro Line X (Both 17 gauge); Tourna Black Zone 17 gauge
Shaped:
Volkl Cyclone (Black) 17 gauge; Kirschbaum Spiky Black Shark 17; Luxilon Savage (Black); Solinco Hyper-G 17; Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable
BBM70
New User
Thank you for the suggestions. I like shaped a bit more than round polies. Cyclone, Hyper G and Wilson Revolve are my go to strings. Currently my Bumblebee is strung with Cyclone 19G (1.10mm), but I didn't like it. Maybe I should try 17G Cyclone. I have a set of Ultra Cable, I will try next time as well as Tourbite.
Thanks again
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
No problem... with Ultra Cable, I think the tension needs to be lower (below 50 lbs) and it could also be pre-stretched to reduce tension loss.
I've just tried Weiss Cannon Red Ghost 1.18mm, which is shaped and has a higher spin value on TW. I've strung it in my Tecnifibre 315 Limited (2013) 18 mains (which is the Tecnifibre copy of the PT57A) @ 50M/48C (for a Dynamic Tension of 38). Played with it for the first time today (both the racquet and the strings) and it plays AWESOME. Great ball pocketing, excellent control, awesome angles and very comfortable. Now I just have to see how long the string lasts before it goes dead... if it's acceptable, this could become one of my go-to strings... remains to be seen...
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GregSV
Semi-Pro
Can you elaborate a bit why? I am playing with the i.Prestige now (pt57e) but also have two bumblebees lying in the closet. After playing with the Zebra for over a year I switched tot the i.Prestige for its manoeuvrability and because it gives me more response. The Zebra is very very muted. All pt57's though!
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PT630Wannabe
Professional
I have a pro stock, so i think i would need to tweak the lead placement a bit. Don't get me wrong, it's a great racquet! I just seem to play a little better with the Bees.
GregSV
Semi-Pro
Would you say the bee is more powerful than the pt57e? I sometimes think i am robbing myself of power just a little bit.
bkfinch
Semi-Pro
I think it's the higher twistweight/weight distribution in the hoop.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
I’m using cyclone 17 gauge and it feels terrific at 44 pounds
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Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
That's the question...Where did you go wrong Head?
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Why does the Graphene Touch look like a junior racquet?Where did you go wrong Head?
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Because instead of a Marketing Illusion... this is an Optical Illusion...
Arti
Professional
Camera angle and lens, but then again it might as well be a junior racquet by the way it plays
PT630Wannabe
Professional
The extreme mass of the Radical Tour is causing gravitational lensing. Much like a Black Hole.
it looks like mutating Pure Drive for juniorsWhere did you go wrong Head?
Arti
Professional
Muster had a very stiff makeup on his and Murray apparently has a slightly stiffer PT57A.
Andy Murray's pt57a is 58 RA stiffness.
https://www.prostocktennis.com/products/Andy-Murray-personal-head-pt57A-graphene-xt-radical-PRO
Muster's PT57A is available on the auction site. I have not heard that it is a stiffer layup.
https://www.prostocktennis.com/products/Andy-Murray-personal-head-pt57A-graphene-xt-radical-PRO
Muster's PT57A is available on the auction site. I have not heard that it is a stiffer layup.
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A stiffer PT57A would no longer be a PT57A.
You can get a PT57E if you want something stiffer. If you need something more stiffer than just go with the current Graphene Prestige MP.
You can buy that racket he is holding right here https://www.prostocktennis.com/products/Andy-Murray-personal-head-pt57A-graphene-xt-radical-PRO
Arti
Professional
What kind of person would spend like ten thousand euros on a tennis racquet. No. I know about that website but I will never buy anything from there, the person that owns that is absolutely insane charging those kind of prices for tennis racquets (also it is not an auction site, it is entirely graymarket retail)
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
HEAD is even more insane for refusing to sell us racquets that they manufacture
Arti
Professional
exactly, it is a niche market but still one where they could make money if they marketed them correctly and with the right price.
rafa_prestige89
Professional
Totally agree, that guy is insane, just profiting from the fact that Head only sells us a bunch of crap.
daddabompa
Hall of Fame
I'm pretty sure to recall that I somewhere here I read of two PT630 "special layup editions", called S.E.1 and S.E.2, which are significantly stiffer (something like 66-67RA unstrung), and that Muster used one of those layup.
I have no idea why they (possibly) made such a stiffer layup for a PT57A, which has in soft/plush (and I would say "unique") feel its best quality...