The Cult of PT57

OjoLOCO

New User
I have asked myself the same question many times, but I keep playing better and better with the FXP Prestige MP. I would love to dabble with more heralded sticks (e.g. PT57A), but I feel (regularly) what you just felt in the FXP Prestige MP. It's damn good almost everywhere on the court.
 
Changing handle pallets on my PT57E's... Will also do a new string job. Been rocking Luxilon 4g rough and Prince Syn gut but looking for something new.

Any recommendations?
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Changing handle pallets on my PT57E's... Will also do a new string job. Been rocking Luxilon 4g rough and Prince Syn gut but looking for something new.

Any recommendations?
What size pallets are you removing? I'm looking for some L3 pallets/butt caps

In my iPrestige I liked hitting with Tier1 T1 Firewire or Strike Force Rip int he mains and crossed with a smooth cross like Isospeed Baseline

In my YT Prestige i recently hit with Laser Fiber Native Tour

Those are a couple poly recommendations that I have recently enjoyed.
 
What size pallets are you removing? I'm looking for some L3 pallets/butt caps

In my iPrestige I liked hitting with Tier1 T1 Firewire or Strike Force Rip int he mains and crossed with a smooth cross like Isospeed Baseline

In my YT Prestige i recently hit with Laser Fiber Native Tour

Those are a couple poly recommendations that I have recently enjoyed.
I'm moving the pallets from TK82 to the TK82s pallets. Prefer a rounder shape. I've ordered Solinco Tour Bite Diamond Rough 16L. Going to string them right down at 44 or 45 and see how they play and then i'll try your recommendations.
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
I'm moving the pallets from TK82 to the TK82s pallets. Prefer a rounder shape. I've ordered Solinco Tour Bite Diamond Rough 16L. Going to string them right down at 44 or 45 and see how they play and then i'll try your recommendations.
45-48 CP seems to be my happy spot for the various MP racquets. Is TB Diamond Rough just like TB with additional texture?

If your TK82 pallets happen to be 4 3/8 LMK if you are looking to part with them :)
 
45-48 CP seems to be my happy spot for the various MP racquets. Is TB Diamond Rough just like TB with additional texture?
Yeah! They are also a lot softer in feel than standard TB diamond rough. Used them once in my dunlops. Very soft and plush feeling with good spin potential. They were strung at 50 in that racket (16/19 pattern)
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Is there a thread on doing pallets, I might try changing one but jot sure how?
I'm not sure...

Tools needed
*heat gun (hair dryer might work)
*long thin standard/flat screw driver
*thin strong tool like a knife
*needle nose pliers
*staple gun (or small gauge nails)
*double sided sticky tape
Removal

1) remove grip and as much adhesive on the pallet
2) using needle nose pliers, remove the staples from the butt cap and slide cap off
3) aim heat gun at pallet and keep the pallet moving around. aim heat gun at bottom to enter handle/hair pin
***try not to heat up one area for too long. It may warp the pallet that is being removed
4) with the thin strong tool that is knife like, place between the crack between the two pallets and wiggle. Switch to the other side
5) try and pull pallet off by hand. If it doesn't come off use the screw driver from the bottom and wedge between racquet and pallet. Insert slowly as far up. During this process, check if the pallet can be removed by hand.
***During steps 4-5, apply heat gun as needed.
6) clean off adhesive from racquet
***take a picture of the product code on the handle and any other identifying marks and post in this thread :)
7) inspect pallet removed and if it is warped, slightly heat and then put both sides together and put a warp of tape to help them keep shape while cooling. Save for another racquet or me :)

Install

1) Check that the racquet is clean and free of old adhesive
2) Place new pallet on hairpin/racquet to check the length. Cut as necessary to be flush with bottom of the racquet
***I've installed a couple short pallets and just made it flush with the bottom. It was short by about 1 cm from the top
3) remove pallet and put single layers lengthwise along racquet. I am able to put two strips on the string side and one strip on the grommet side.
4) place pallet on and give it a good squeeze to help the adhesive secure to the pallet and racquet.
***I've wrapped a couple layers of tape around the pallet and let it sit for an hour or more to hold pallet. This is something I do if the pallet I'm placing is warped. I have also used 3M spray adhesive or a thin nail but that was just a couple times. I've seen Angell racquets with nails through it to secure pallet.
5) Place butt cap on the bottom and secure with staple gun. Thin nail has also been used when staple gun unavailable.

I'll be doing a pallet change soon and I'll take some pictures.
 

Hmgraphite1

Hall of Fame
I'm not sure...

Tools needed
*heat gun (hair dryer might work)
*long thin standard/flat screw driver
*thin strong tool like a knife
*needle nose pliers
*staple gun (or small gauge nails)
*double sided sticky tape
Removal

1) remove grip and as much adhesive on the pallet
2) using needle nose pliers, remove the staples from the butt cap and slide cap off
3) aim heat gun at pallet and keep the pallet moving around. aim heat gun at bottom to enter handle/hair pin
***try not to heat up one area for too long. It may warp the pallet that is being removed
4) with the thin strong tool that is knife like, place between the crack between the two pallets and wiggle. Switch to the other side
5) try and pull pallet off by hand. If it doesn't come off use the screw driver from the bottom and wedge between racquet and pallet. Insert slowly as far up. During this process, check if the pallet can be removed by hand.
***During steps 4-5, apply heat gun as needed.
6) clean off adhesive from racquet
***take a picture of the product code on the handle and any other identifying marks and post in this thread :)
7) inspect pallet removed and if it is warped, slightly heat and then put both sides together and put a warp of tape to help them keep shape while cooling. Save for another racquet or me :)

Install

1) Check that the racquet is clean and free of old adhesive
2) Place new pallet on hairpin/racquet to check the length. Cut as necessary to be flush with bottom of the racquet
***I've installed a couple short pallets and just made it flush with the bottom. It was short by about 1 cm from the top
3) remove pallet and put single layers lengthwise along racquet. I am able to put two strips on the string side and one strip on the grommet side.
4) place pallet on and give it a good squeeze to help the adhesive secure to the pallet and racquet.
***I've wrapped a couple layers of tape around the pallet and let it sit for an hour or more to hold pallet. This is something I do if the pallet I'm placing is warped. I have also used 3M spray adhesive or a thin nail but that was just a couple times. I've seen Angell racquets with nails through it to secure pallet.
5) Place butt cap on the bottom and secure with staple gun. Thin nail has also been used when staple gun unavailable.

I'll be doing a pallet change soon and I'll take some pictures.
Thanks, good description, yeah pictures would be cool, what are "single layers" and "one strip" "two strip"?
 

HeadClassic

New User
I just soak the pallet in hot water which will loosen up the glue, and remove. Easy. Usually the old adhesive is enough to pop the new ones on.
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
I just soak the pallet in hot water which will loosen up the glue, and remove. Easy. Usually the old adhesive is enough to pop the new ones on.
Racquet handle in the water? Does it affect the pallet after for possible reuse?

I figure the adhesive should be good enough but out of habit I try and clean the handle and put in a fresh adhesive layer
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
So I have a few RTXLMPZ one of which I recently capped. I was surprised to find it feels more crisp. I’ve read as such before but didn’t think it would be this pronounced.

Should I expect it to mellow as the grommets bed in or become more crisp with a few more stringjobs?

It still feels good, just different.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
What would be the minimum specs for a pt57a to be playable? 335 Grams static weight strung, would that be possible?
How high is the swing weight on the pro stock PT57a when the lead is removed?
 

cdik

New User
Anyone try solinco tourbite soft 17 in a radical zebra? So sweeeet!! Strung at 22 kg...
I don't know if it's a good choise. I've tried Zebra with Kirsh PLX 1.25 / S. gut at 24 kg and it's quite loose. I haven't got enaugh control. So, as for me, Zebra needs at list 25 kilo and 26 is optimal. I've tried n.gut/poli on Zebra and it needs some time to adjust to control extra power.
 
I don't know if it's a good choise. I've tried Zebra with Kirsh PLX 1.25 / S. gut at 24 kg and it's quite loose. I haven't got enaugh control. So, as for me, Zebra needs at list 25 kilo and 26 is optimal. I've tried n.gut/poli on Zebra and it needs some time to adjust to control extra power.
Cyclone 18 @44#


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PT630Wannabe

Professional
I have two Bumblebees strung with Tourna Premium Poly at 49 lbs and the control and spin is outstanding. I had been playing gut mains poly crosses and while the feel was sweeter, i am playing better with the full poly. Have two Zebras in for the same stringing so will see about that very soon.
 
I had this in a racquet recently and played really well.
My question, have tried the cyclone 19, and what would you string it at to have it be similar to the 18.
(Or the 18L to 18). Tighter?
I found this string to feel very “dead“ when strung at too high a tension. Generally speaking, a thinner gauge will string up “tighter” in feel at any given tension . So I might go even a little bit lower to get the best from the 19 gauge.

With the 18 gauge at 44 pounds the racket played in an absolutely sublime manner Very lively, but still with tons of control. I also felt the spin was enhanced.


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HeadClassic

New User
I have two Bumblebees strung with Tourna Premium Poly at 49 lbs and the control and spin is outstanding. I had been playing gut mains poly crosses and while the feel was sweeter, i am playing better with the full poly. Have two Zebras in for the same stringing so will see about that very soon.
Are you playing oversize or mid Bumblebee?
 

Balaji_R

Rookie
Is Dunlop NT tour 18 20 arm friendly for those who have arm issues ? Please review it in terms of feel, control, stability, manuverability, power, spin, stiffness etc.
 

Caol-ila

New User
Only issue I had was serves felt solid at 1st but when I was serving during a set of doubles, I started to feel a twinge in my elbow on full swings similar to when I was playing with the TC97. It made me a little nervous & tentative. Only 2nd time I've felt this in the past 8 yrs. I'm not sure if it's because it is not enough HL balance, too high SW, or technique. I'm going to tail weight even more to bring it to my usual balance & see how it goes.

I got a Lite Tour 630 some weeks ago and was astonished at how it feels head heavy. In order to take it to my preferred balance, around 32cm, I put some strips of Wilson lead tape around the pallets, then added a leather grip.




This led me closer to my target, but was not yet enough. I decided to add something externally, so that I could remove it if needed.
I attached a 2 euro coin with some tack below the buttcap. One can see Dante Alighieri's face.



Still that was not enough, and I added a 20cent coin. That was enough, now the balance is 32cm.

 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Owner of 2 PT57E's here.... Any recommendations on string set ups?
I've enjoyed a shaped/textured poly main with a smooth poly cross. Have used various types. This sticks out to me. Tier 1 T1 Firewire 17/Isospeed Baseline speed or spin. 45#

I've also really enjoyed gut/poly at 53/50
 

PT280 Fan

Rookie
I've enjoyed a shaped/textured poly main with a smooth poly cross. Have used various types. This sticks out to me. Tier 1 T1 Firewire 17/Isospeed Baseline speed or spin. 45#

I've also really enjoyed gut/poly at 53/50
I'm just a couple pounds lower in string tension but generally agree with these recommendations. My frames are twenty plus years young, have been left in warm and cold trunks and still play like the day I bought them. I like a Fed set-up with a gut or synth in the mains and a copoly in the crosses a few pounds lighter. A cost saving seriously good set-up is Prince lightning pro in the mains and genesis true grit in the crosses.
 

Balaji_R

Rookie
I'm just a couple pounds lower in string tension but generally agree with these recommendations. My frames are twenty plus years young, have been left in warm and cold trunks and still play like the day I bought them. I like a Fed set-up with a gut or synth in the mains and a copoly in the crosses a few pounds lighter. A cost saving seriously good set-up is Prince lightning pro in the mains and genesis true grit in the crosses.
Just curious, wont the strings move a lot of you have syn gut in mains?
 

Balaji_R

Rookie
It's ok with an 18x20. With an open pattern anything other than poly mains drives me mad. A decent syn gut is fine for a cross IMO. I like solinco outlast/pro-stacked which comes together in a pack.
But is the syn arm friendly. Its just cheap i guess. In the name of best of both worlds i guess it does nothing. But then i havent tried many syn guts :)
 
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