The Cult of PT57

Crocodile

Hall of Fame
Yes I had the Guga version ( Premier Tour paint job) and I should have kept them. I didn't realise that it was all going to end. Luckily Head made a low production run of the TI Fire Pro Edition with the twin tube which was good.
 

HeadClassic

New User
I would like to get some feedback from those who have played with the Head Tour Xtra-long. How did you like them? I'm craving some more power on serve from playing with the PT630.
 

edelp

Rookie
So with the MG Prestige MP fit the graphene xt prestige if you don't want caps, or lighter head?
No, these two are nearly identical, just that the graphene prestige one is more rounded at the end.
For the short grommets / bumper, you need to buy the MG Radical MP one
 

Hmgraphite1

Hall of Fame
No, these two are nearly identical, just that the graphene prestige one is more rounded at the end.
For the short grommets / bumper, you need to buy the MG Radical MP one
Oh, Sorry, I read radical the first time, though we both wrote mg prestige.

So I can use mg radical mp on a gxt prestige?
 
The more I play with the I.Prestige MP, the more I find myself wondering why people compare it to the PT280 or to the PC600 (As evidenced by some threads on this website). It has a very different feel, much stiffer and 'modern' - feels a lot like many recent racquets (albeit more 'solid'). Even just bouncing a ball on the 3 racquets (Identically strung), I get a distinct high-pitched 'ping' sound with the I.Prestige (not nearly as bad as the graphene ones and definitely no vibrations, just the sound), but only solid 'thwok' sounds from the PT280 and PC600.

The PT280 and PC600 are something else - the feel you get is really like nothing else I've played with. I'm having a really hard time deciding which of these 2 racquest should be my main 'go-to' stick :)

Recently acquired a pt280 and an I. Prestige midplus. I can see why the pt280 has the status it does, plays unlike anything on the market today. The I. Prestige on the other hand, while very solid feeling, seems more similar to more recent racquets like the ig series. Not quite as buttery as the pt280 but very solid nonetheless.
 

SOY78

Professional
After about couple of years of putting most of my PT57's in the closet I played with the MG & Youtek Presige Pro's and got bigger spin with them but less consistency. I recently dugout the old PT57's and wow I missed the consistency from 18x20 pattern and the control I get with these sticks. I won't put them back in the closet for a while :)
 

HeadClassic

New User
Alright boys, it's settled. I've named the Head Tour Xtra-Long my stick of choice. It's just too easy to serve with. And I have large hands, so the longer handle is welcomed for my 2 handed backhand. I still get the solid feel from the graphite/twaron, and slightly more power with a 21mm compared to a 20mm on the PT630. And the forest green color is classic ;)
 

Dansan

Rookie
Just want to share my findings with string setups thus far since i’ve been the lucky owner of a PT280 about a year now.
First setup I have tried was the string that came with the racquet. 16g HEAD multifilament probably around 55 lbs. Rocket launcher, mushy trampoline albeit super comfortable and soft. Everything felt out of control, everything sailing long. Really difficult to feel much.

Hybrid setup... ( not my tension of choice, again this was string already on the stick) Shaped ALU crosses around 53 lbs, gut mains 55 lbs. super comfortable, a lot of power, too much power and lack of spin. Unpredictable for me. I think if the strings were fresh and higher tension by 2 or 3 lbs it would have been better.

Full bed of HyperG 16L at 51.5 lbs. Comfortable, crisp, plenty of pop, tons of spin potential, and a lot of feel/touch. Just an incredible feeling setup on the PT280. I felt the racquet become a different animal. Before this setup, I couldn’t really connect with the racquet and almost lost hope. Downside is longevity...hyperG lasts longer than most polys I’ve played with, but after going dead they become unpredictable and stiff. Lasted maybe 4 sessions.

Next up is a cheap full bed of Gosen of sheep micro 17 synth. gut at 59 lbs. Just for curiosity sake, the Gosen synth gut feels really crisp in my other racquet. I think it’s underrated, I’ll report back with my findings. But so far, the full 16L Hyper G is phenomenal at low 50s when fresh.
 

Taita87

Rookie
replacing the grommets of my pt630 with non CAP, how does this change the balance and weight? I actually am in love with the racquet, just trying to lower the weight without the need to buy a pt57a
Now, the racquet with an overgrip is 330 unstrung and 348 strung
 

edelp

Rookie
Hi,
I did this a few times, and if i remember well, it removes around 12 gr and thus "makes it around 1cm more headlight". I can check the grommet or the bumper weight difference at home..
But for sure does it make the frame more maneuverable...
At the same time it gives me the impression to make the frame even more flexible than capped.
 

edelp

Rookie
you need to buy, if you want black ones, the Microgel Radical MP set of grommets, or the IG Radical MP ones, if you prefer the "transparent" ones...
 

tennis_balla

Hall of Fame
After Kuerten won Roland Garros in ‘97, I know he used the Fire mold I believe it was for a bit and then was also seen with a Ti. Radical paint job with CAP grommets. Two questions: What was under his iPrestige MP paint job? and was Guga the reason HEAD made the PT57A to begin with? He was after all their premier player with that racket at the time.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
After Kuerten won Roland Garros in ‘97, I know he used the Fire mold I believe it was for a bit and then was also seen with a Ti. Radical paint job with CAP grommets. Two questions: What was under his iPrestige MP paint job? and was Guga the reason HEAD made the PT57A to begin with? He was after all their premier player with that racket at the time.
Guga didn’t really use the Ti Fire. It was really the PT57A with a cross bar. The Ti. Radical paint job Guga used had the PT57A under the paint. Guga didn’t use really use the i.Prestige MP it was again the PT57A. No, The PT57A wasn’t designed for Guga. The PT57A is just the code for the mold that came out in 1993 with the Radical Trisys 260 MP. There are 3 layups available for the PT57A. The retail PT57A racquets are the Radical Trisys 260 MP and Pro Tour 630/280
 

tennis_balla

Hall of Fame
Guga didn’t really use the Ti Fire. It was really the PT57A with a cross bar. The Ti. Radical paint job Guga used had the PT57A under the paint. Guga didn’t use really use the i.Prestige MP it was again the PT57A. No, The PT57A wasn’t designed for Guga. The PT57A is just the code for the mold that came out in 1993 with the Radical Trisys 260 MP. There are 3 layups available for the PT57A. The retail PT57A racquets are the Radical Trisys 260 MP and Pro Tour 630/280
Didn’t know about the Fire being PT57A with crossbar but yea I know what the PT57A is, my question is was it made into a pro stock for Guga initially and then just carried on/used by other players?
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Didn’t know about the Fire being PT57A with crossbar but yea I know what the PT57A is, my question is was it made into a pro stock for Guga initially and then just carried on/used by other players?
No, there was always a Pro Stock in Radical Trisys 260 MP and Pro Tour 630
 

tennis_balla

Hall of Fame
No, there was always a Pro Stock in Radical Trisys 260 MP and Pro Tour 630
Ok that’s what I was wondering. Also is the mold pretty much the same with the current Prestige MP rackets? I know on the side where the grommets end the indent is different on the PT57A. Anything else besides layup?
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Ok that’s what I was wondering. Also is the mold pretty much the same with the current Prestige MP rackets? I know on the side where the grommets end the indent is different on the PT57A. Anything else besides layup?
The PT57A is very similar to the TGK293 (Prestige MP mold since IG). The difference is the grommet channel, the length of the handle is shorter on the PT57A, and the yoke is a little longer on the PT57A
 

tennis_balla

Hall of Fame
The PT57A is very similar to the TGK293 (Prestige MP mold since IG). The difference is the grommet channel, the length of the handle is shorter on the PT57A, and the yoke is a little longer on the PT57A
I think the handle on retail Prestige MP is shorter than on most rackets which is one of the things I like most about it, especially having a one hander.
 

FourOutOfFive

New User
Not trying to be stupid here but what’s the most you guys would pay for a PT57A? Getting an offer for a brand new one in the 1st gen Graphene paint for 480 euros (540 USD) including shipping from Europe to the US.

Thoughts?
 

PT630Wannabe

Professional
With so many retail versions of the racquet available on the auction site I don’t see the point of getting pro stock if you’re just curious what the fuss is about. Buy yourself a Radical Tour 630 either Bumblebee, Zebra or Candycane and give that a whirl first. Bumblebee will be closest materials wise to a Pro Tour 630.
 

kailash

Professional
Is Tecnifibre 315 Ltd the closest to PT57 sold in retail? The 2013/14 version. I don't think that any new Head retail racquets are like PT57.
 

ProRadTour

Semi-Pro
@kailash It's not really close to the PT57. It was a soft muted frame, but just doesn't play the same IMO. So in characteristics, yeah you could say it's close. The 315 ltd didn't really have that deep ball pocketing the PT57s do. Yeah no new Head frames play like the PT57.

I would say the 315 ltd was closer to a Radical than a PT57 IMO.
 
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kailash

Professional
@kailash It's not really close to the PT57. It was a soft muted frame, but just doesn't play the same IMO. So in characteristics, yeah you could say it's close. The 315 ltd didn't really have that deep ball pocketing the PT57s do. Yeah no new Head frames play like the PT57.

I would say the 315 ltd was closer to a Radical than a PT57 IMO.
Ok, thx. How to get a PT57A? Saw some on auction site, but very expensive and could be fake.
 
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