The Cult of PT57

Giuleo

New User
Thanks brother, and thanks for spreading the knowledge about Head rackets. I am posting only now but I have been reading TT forums for a long time.
 

Taita87

Rookie
I have been playing with 2 pro tour 630 for the last 4 months and I am playing my best tennis so far.
I just switched my 2 tc95 16x19 (that I do not use anymore) for 2 tc97 18x20. Let's see if it's a real alternative to keep finding used old pro tour here and there... the tc 95 63ra 18x20, in my opinion, does not share much with a pt57a. Different beam shape, different power level, different feel.
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
I have been playing with 2 pro tour 630 for the last 4 months and I am playing my best tennis so far.
I just switched my 2 tc95 16x19 (that I do not use anymore) for 2 tc97 18x20. Let's see if it's a real alternative to keep finding used old pro tour here and there... the tc 95 63ra 18x20, in my opinion, does not share much with a pt57a. Different beam shape, different power level, different feel.
I like my tc95 16/19 and also use one of the recent prestige pros along side it. I heard that the tc97 is a good/current alternative to the pt57 platform. I have a tc97 as well and it is very pleasant to hit with
 

Imago

Hall of Fame
hello, and about donnay pro one 97 (penta & hexa)? on their eshop, they write: The Pro One 16x19, Hexacore is for advanced players who are looking for the original classic Head Prestige PT57A which were made in Austria but dont want to pay $700.
They have more right to say so than PK Q+TP or TF 315 16x19 Ltd. Donnay Penta 97 is an exquisite racket. Compared to it, PK Q+TP is like a tin can.
 

Giuleo

New User
I have been playing with 2 pro tour 630 for the last 4 months and I am playing my best tennis so far.
I just switched my 2 tc95 16x19 (that I do not use anymore) for 2 tc97 18x20. Let's see if it's a real alternative to keep finding used old pro tour here and there... the tc 95 63ra 18x20, in my opinion, does not share much with a pt57a. Different beam shape, different power level, different feel.
I found the TC97 18x20 far from the feel of the PT. Less feel and a bit more power, overall PT’s are better for my game.


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Taita87

Rookie
Ok, tc97 arrived and under stringing machine.
In the main time I tried my tc95 63ra 18x20 that I never really tested because back then I had TE.

I strung it with poly plasma Pro 1.23 22/21 (like the pro tour 630).

It is way more powerful then Pro tour.
It is almost as soft in the sweetspot but harsher near frame.
It swings easier (in my 320 31 setup).
It flexes less, and it has a lower trajectory. I suppose this is due to the fact that the racquet flexes less and with Pro tour the ball stays longer in the stringbed and you can impart a lot of spin even if it's a tight 18-20.
Feel is different, of course top in the pro tour side.
Comfort on Pro tour.

I overall destroyed my partner, the shots were much more penetrating and powerful
 

asifallasleep

Hall of Fame
A week ago i pulled my PT630's out and they haven't gone back. It's insane the amount of spin this frame generates. The easy power, the plow, the maneuverability, the feel, it's such a unique frame. I have to work so much harder with my RF97 and cannot be late!! With the PT630, I can be really late and just whip the racquet at an acute angle and the ball just explodes off the string bed with insane rpms. I can destroy topspin balls over my head by swatting them like a fly swatter......sending flat non returnable bombs to the other side of then net. I cannot hit that shot at all with my RF. I have to retreat and hit a spin shot back. The thin beam and 95 smaller head of the PT630 really makes this shot possible.
 

Taita87

Rookie
Yesterday I played with the tc97 18x20.
320 grams 30.7 balance 302.5 SW(of course 10 grams lighter then my Pro tour).
I was expecting it to play stiffer, crisper, etc.

Eh? I'm a 5.0/5.5 player. The stick plays damn equal to the pro tour. I don't honestly understand how people find it COMPLETELY different then Pro tour...
Same buttery feel, same comfort on hits outside the sweetspot, feeling is there it is muted and dampened like the head...
If I have to find subtle differences it seems a tad less flexier and more powerful but we are splitting hair.

I must be honest: from the first hit the feeling has been a real surprise. I was sceptical and did not expect it to be that similar
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I know that this may not be the right place to ask this question, but since it's full of knowledgeable Head aficionados, here it goes...

If a Prestige racquet has a Sticker/ Label on the pin that starts with H22***** and a barcode, is this a standard Head racquet or something closer to Pro Stock?

Thanks
 
I know that this may not be the right place to ask this question, but since it's full of knowledgeable Head aficionados, here it goes...

If a Prestige racquet has a Sticker/ Label on the pin that starts with H22***** and a barcode, is this a standard Head racquet or something closer to Pro Stock?

Thanks
If label starts with H22 or H19 it's just knock-off crudely made by W. :)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I know that this may not be the right place to ask this question, but since it's full of knowledgeable Head aficionados, here it goes...

If a Prestige racquet has a Sticker/ Label on the pin that starts with H22***** and a barcode, is this a standard Head racquet or something closer to Pro Stock?

Thanks
It means it was made in Kennelbach, Austria.
 

FourOutOfFive

New User
That is it.
You can still find the TK238 around but they are not cheap. Definitely better quality than the TK293
Ah ok thanks for the response, didn't realize that TK293 was available for sale. I take it TK238 are the OG PT630 grommets? Are they the same weight as the 293s?

I definitely wasn't impressed with the quality of the 293s, they are already falling apart and it's been barely a month since I got the racquets.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Ah ok thanks for the response, didn't realize that TK293 was available for sale. I take it TK238 are the OG PT630 grommets? Are they the same weight as the 293s?

I definitely wasn't impressed with the quality of the 293s, they are already falling apart and it's been barely a month since I got the racquets.
The original CAP system grommets for the Pro Tour 630 is TK57
 

FourOutOfFive

New User
Sooo this happened today...





Any idea what’s in the handle? Looks like toothpaste and has blue flecks in it.
 
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FourOutOfFive

New User
I could be wrong and it’s actually toothpaste.
It looks like it could be, honestly.

My YouTek PJ PT57A which is 100% legit (has Miami open stringing sticker) is filled with silicone. It has a slightly more solid feel and ball pocketing is more prevalent compared to my matches pair of Touch PJs. Why would Head fill the racquet with this material and not silicone? Also, the buttcap falling off does concern me a bit, am I crazy for worrying that there is something not quite right with these racquets? On the other hand, there is a black player sticker on the inside of the throat and I can see a bit of red sticker on the hairpin...
 

FourOutOfFive

New User
@vsbabolat
If you could please take a look at these better quality pics that show the pallet and inside of the old buttcap that would be a big help.
Do the pallets need replaced as well? Looks like the buttcap was indeed glued/siliconed to a part of pallet and it broke off. The staples do not look like the penetrated the hairpin as you can see from the pic. My guess is that the buttcap was merely being held to the racquet by silicone/glue and somebody didn’t check to see if they stapled it in correctly.

Buttcap that broke off and the replacement are both code TK219, I guess they are the kind that need to be attached with silicone as well.

Thanks
 
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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
@vsbabolat
If you could please take a look at these better quality pics that show the pallet and inside of the old buttcap that would be a big help.
Do the pallets need replaced as well? Looks like the buttcap was indeed glued/siliconed to a part of pallet and it broke off. The staples do not look like the penetrated the hairpin as you can see from the pic. My guess is that the buttcap was merely being held to the racquet by silicone/glue and somebody didn’t check to see if they stapled it in correctly.

Buttcap that broke off and the replacement are both code TK219, I guess they are the kind that need to be attached with silicone as well.

Thanks
Ah, I didn’t realize the pallet was broken. Yes, you need to replace the pallets.
 

FourOutOfFive

New User
Ah, I didn’t realize the pallet was broken. Yes, you need to replace the pallets.
Thanks for the quick reply. To my understanding the buttcap needs to be stapled as well as siliconed to the pallet correct? Do you think it would work to use gorilla glue instead of silicone? I’d imagine that would have more than enough hold if the staples go through the hairpin.
 
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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Thanks for the quick reply. To my understanding the buttcap needs to be stapled as well as siliconed to the pallet correct? Do you think it would work to use gorilla glue instead of silicone? I’d imagine that would have more than enough hold if the staples go through the hairpin.
Normally staples work just fine. Don’t use gorilla glue because if you ever want to remove the butt-cap for what ever reason you can’t.
 

Rezmund13

New User
Probably a type of bathroom silicone sealant? Does it smell of anything?

Did the handle break or just the butt cap came off? Who customised your stick?

Cheers
 

FourOutOfFive

New User
Probably a type of bathroom silicone sealant? Does it smell of anything?

Did the handle break or just the butt cap came off? Who customised your stick?

Cheers
So I got to talk with the seller and apparently he removed the silicon from the frames in favor of blue tac. The feel was always a bit different compared to my silicon filled YT Prestige PJ so now I know why haha.

In regards to the buttcap, I posted an Imgur link with a few pics of the pallet and damaged buttcap. It looks like the staples did not penetrate the hairpin nor the pallet. Instead, some sort of adhesive was holding it all together. The lower handle portion of the pallet that is typically covered by the buttcap is what seems to have cracked and completely fallen off, probably because of the poor installation.

The seller did initially send a photo of the bare hairpins with the ID stickers on them before I made the purchase. I’m pretty sure he incorrectly installed it all back on aftwerwards. It was a shame too, since the pallets were TK57 in L2 size, which is supposedly pretty rare.
 

kungfu5tin

New User
So I got to talk with the seller and apparently he removed the silicon from the frames in favor of blue tac. The feel was always a bit different compared to my silicon filled YT Prestige PJ so now I know why haha.

In regards to the buttcap, I posted an Imgur link with a few pics of the pallet and damaged buttcap. It looks like the staples did not penetrate the hairpin nor the pallet. Instead, some sort of adhesive was holding it all together. The lower handle portion of the pallet that is typically covered by the buttcap is what seems to have cracked and completely fallen off, probably because of the poor installation.

The seller did initially send a photo of the bare hairpins with the ID stickers on them before I made the purchase. I’m pretty sure he incorrectly installed it all back on aftwerwards. It was a shame too, since the pallets were TK57 in L2 size, which is supposedly pretty rare.
If you have a ohbh or don't care about where the top of the pallet ends you can just take off the existing pallets, trim the broken ends, and reinstall with staples. The top of the pallet will be about an inch short of where it used to end but it'll be covered with the replacement grip.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
so with Wilson planning to release the Wilson Ultra Tour which seems to be an h19 mold (pt57a clone). Looks like Wilson may possibly the deliverer of a "modern" pt57a available to the public other than Angell.

Curious to hear other members of the Cult if they plan to try the frame out. Looks like specs are quite light/barebone leaving room for lots of customization.

I for one love blue rackets so I can't help but be cautiously optimistic about trying this frame...
I will try one and customize it to my spec to have the full effect and comparison to the 57A
@vsbabolat Did you ever try this?
 

FourOutOfFive

New User
Been hitting with my new PT57A3 MG Radical for the last few days and compared to PT57A2 I feel a bit less flex in the upper hoop. Besides that, feel and ball pocketing on contact is identical and personally it’s a pretty seamless transition between sticks.

Also had a guy who wanted to sell me a PT57A4 with a 68ra. Anybody hit with one of these? If Head ever rereleased the Pro Tour it would probably be this layup lol.
 
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