The Cult of PT57

Ultra 2

Professional
Interesting. Has the tapered pallet so wonder why there is a collar there. Could you please post a few pics of the buttcap as well? Would like to see the inside of the cap. Thanks!
 

Ultra 2

Professional
Sorry, does it also look like the buttcap was removed and reinstalled? You can tell by the number of staple marks on the bottom of the pallet.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Ok. It looks similar to the one that was on a pro stock prestige I had and the PT280 MIA that I currently. Not saying that this one is a pro stock.. just looks similar, but the decal is different. Also, didn’t realize these came with collars.. unless I’m misinterpreting what the owner is saying.
Back when the MIA PT280 was new for retail and pro stock both had the same butt-cap which was black with a black logo sticker with the HEAD ski tip logo in sliver.
 

Ultra 2

Professional
Back when the MIA PT280 was new for retail and pro stock both had the same butt-cap which was black with a black logo sticker with the HEAD ski tip logo in sliver.
Confirmed on mine as well. Could it be that the PT630 just had different decals on the buttcap since they were sold outside of the US?
 

marxknight

Rookie
Sorry, does it also look like the buttcap was removed and reinstalled? You can tell by the number of staple marks on the bottom of the pallet.
No there are no signs of replacements, the staples were rusted (3 front and 2 back) and the base grip was fixed to one of them. It seemed as everything was placed from the factory.
 

Ultra 2

Professional
No there are no signs of replacements, the staples were rusted (3 front and 2 back) and the base grip was fixed to one of them. It seemed as everything was placed from the factory.
Thanks! Then this one is certainly a mystery. The rubber collar and a different decal is typically not found on these. I have no idea how this happened since VS is spot on re: Head frames of this era. That said, I found a couple of POGS that were cosmetically non-compliant as well. Post# 437

 

marxknight

Rookie
Thanks! Then this one is certainly a mystery. The rubber collar and a different decal is typically not found on these. I have no idea how this happened since VS is spot on re: Head frames of this era. That said, I found a couple of POGS that were cosmetically non-compliant as well. Post# 437

I wish it was in a better condition so I could preserve the collar and maybe found some answer. Also I noticed the collar on one side had the head logo sort of engraved on it but I can not get it on a photo as it's a very fine detail, but also I could be wrong on that detail... For sure though this is a mystery of a racket
 

Ultra 2

Professional
I wish it was in a better condition so I could preserve the collar and maybe found some answer. Also I noticed the collar on one side had the head logo sort of engraved on it but I can not get it on a photo as it's a very fine detail, but also I could be wrong on that detail... For sure though this is a mystery of a racket
Yeah unfortunately those collars never last. People call them rubber but I think it's some sort of poly-urethane material. Smog, and stuff in the ATM will make it brittle over time making them un-salvageable.
 

marxknight

Rookie
Yeah unfortunately those collars never last. People call them rubber but I think it's some sort of poly-urethane material. Smog, and stuff in the ATM will make it brittle over time making them un-salvageable.
At least I have the pieces as proof that it existed. Also notice how old the babolat logo on the finishing tape is, it's from ages ago...
 

PBODY99

Legend
How are everyone's PT57's matching? Recently I've had a Radical Candycane that is oddly 0.4 oz heavier than the others that I have, and a Xtra Long that is 0.4 oz lighter than the others I have. I wonder how often this happens. I'm picky and like to have all my sticks within a few grams if possible. Luckily my PT630's all match.
@HeadClassic

Xtra Long's will have a higher swing weight for a given weight & balance. A little lighter helps match the swing weight.
 
I'll consider it when I try to figure out how to customize it to my liking. Now only to find a golden coin!
I did it for fun when trying to figure out how much silicone put into my TiRad bought for less than $25. During Project Manhattan physicists used golden door stopper to show how invaluable gold is compared to their experiments (gold was left over after one of exp.). This same was about gold coin and my pimped TiRad :)
 

marxknight

Rookie
That collar shouldn’t have been on that racquet and you had the wrong butt-cap. The previous owner put those on the racquet.
I find it also quite possible for them to have been changed back in the day (I would assume the prestige pro seeing how similar the handle layouts are, but maybe I'm wrong) but even if that is the case they are being replaced now.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I find it also quite possible for them to have been changed back in the day (I would assume the prestige pro seeing how similar the handle layouts are, but maybe I'm wrong) but even if that is the case they are being replaced now.
The rubber collar that was put on your Pro Tour 630 that disintegrated was form the suspension grip of the Prestige Tour 600. They were notorious for doing that.
 

marxknight

Rookie
The rubber collar that was put on your Pro Tour 630 that disintegrated was form the suspension grip of the Prestige Tour 600. They were notorious for doing that.
Very interesting, I thought they looked very close to my prestige pro, the collar and the buttcap, but turns out they are from the prestige tour. Thank you for the information and for resolving this "mystery".
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Very interesting, I thought they looked very close to my prestige pro, the collar and the buttcap, but turns out they are from the prestige tour. Thank you for the information and for resolving this "mystery".
The butt-cap was not from the Prestige Tour 600. The butt-cap from the Prestige Tour 600 was clear plastic to show off the suspension grip.
 
Anyone who can help me with specs? Its too heavy now. So....
Change cap grommets (tk57) for radical grommets decreases weight by almost 10g.
What are the lightest grommets?
How much will this change the balance (now 31.5) and swingweight (now 307)?
 

Deflector

New User
Hi guys. I'm in PT57A club now too. Have bought Head Radical Tour 630 Bumblebee. Decent racquet. One regret that there is no 16x19 version. I don't why but it reminds me mix of the power and feel of nSixOne Tour and the control of Blade 98 2015.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Thanks! Racquet is on the way to me. It seems i made a good business.
Couple of things, not trying to kill your excitement:
1) looks like the Youtek, not the Innegra PJ. Therefore, it would be 238.4, not 293.x for the retail.
2) As VS mentioned, it is the PT57A, however, the first Chinese batch of the PT57A, second half of Youteks (First half actually has the "PT57A" printed inside the throat and was done in Austria) were "harsh" - did not really feel like the PT57A...

Nevertheless, enjoy it!
 

kingadam1985

New User
Couple of things, not trying to kill your excitement:
1) looks like the Youtek, not the Innegra PJ. Therefore, it would be 238.4, not 293.x for the retail.
2) As VS mentioned, it is the PT57A, however, the first Chinese batch of the PT57A, second half of Youteks (First half actually has the "PT57A" printed inside the throat and was done in Austria) were "harsh" - did not really feel like the PT57A...

Nevertheless, enjoy it!
It has ig prestige paintjob and the black sticker's number starts with D. I will check the numbers under the pallet. Anyway for 100euro with shipping it was a good business.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
It has ig prestige paintjob and the black sticker's number starts with D. I will check the numbers under the pallet. Anyway for 100euro with shipping it was a good business.
Duh, I am blind ;)
D = 2013.
Didn't they introduce graphene prestige by then? Could be 2014 as the prestige line is always the last update
Innegra prestige was introduced in 2011 (B), A = 2010, second batch of Youtek Prestige (eliminated Code in the throat).

Great deal you got there!
 

kingadam1985

New User
What is the number on the black sticker?
05770x

Duh, I am blind ;)
D = 2013.
Didn't they introduce graphene prestige by then? Could be 2014 as the prestige line is always the last update
Innegra prestige was introduced in 2011 (B), A = 2010, second batch of Youtek Prestige (eliminated Code in the throat).

Great deal you got there!
Don't know. I have an ig radical paintjob with C. If the radical line comes earlier than prestige it can be D i think.
 
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edelp

Semi-Pro
why not...on a 6yo frame that already exchanged hands X times??
That player is probably retired already
Hey my friend. You are totally right, could not agree more. But then why is a (very welcome) super Head Kennelbach close (Head employee?) SF member so interested in this number? If it does not give more info than the one I and you think it just describes, why at all asking? What is so interesting about it?
To share something with us in this forum about the prostock world? fine, welcome... :)
If not, I would not share here any number of the many many Head prostock you (and I) bought, enjoyed and sold.

Enjoy!
Best
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Hello. Need some help. I have a head pt 630. Is this a pt57a?
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f343361324083269
As mentioned, the photo you have uploaded is a Head Radical Tour 630 (also known as The Bumblebee), which is coincidentally a PT57A. If you do have a Pro Tour 630 (PT630), which is blue and black in colour, it would also be a PT57A. They have different Balance and weight distribution set-ups, so have a different feel when playing, but are both great racquets.
 

ionelneica

New User
Thank you very much. Its 355g strung with overgrip. I have also the 690 version. But this 630 i feel its way better in control and very stable. And i dont feel the weight so much.
 

Grieeegoorr

Rookie
I think the approach to getting the PT57A brought back to the retail market has to change. It is very clear that the people in control of Head Tennis have absolutely no interest in providing what we (paying customers) want. It is completely pointless to try and engage with them, they are so far removed from the ethos that the brand was originally built around it is beyond a joke.
There is now a factory in China which makes PT57A's which feel like the original PT630's. It's time to cut out the middle man and go straight to the source before any trade deals are signed and further protections on IP are attempted to be enforced.
 

ionelneica

New User
Hi. After some more matches with my first bumblebee 630 i'm very impressed. I also play with bumblebee 690 and prestige tour 660. First of all the 630 felt very stable. All shots were ok. Its 355g with 32.5 balance strung, 22/22 msv co focus. Bh slice was low and penetrating, fh was very good. Control was very, very good. The raquet felt whipy on fh. The plowtrough was very good, hitting some deep balls. Spin was good too. I could hit the service where i wanted. I played some 10-15 raquets in 3 years time but no raquet felt so good. The feel, control were too good. The prestige tour 660 is my main raquet and i give it 8 /10. But 630 i give 9.5 /10 because i felt nothing wrong. And no pain or fatigue on my arm and played 2.5 hours matches. The 660 has 340g strung.
 
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