The Cult of PT57

GuilhermeG

Rookie
I had, but my right shoulder started feeling sore after playing and I didn't want to risk an injury.

I guess the SW was a little bit too much, or the headsize was too big... I'm not sure what was the problem. Anyway... sold both GPro's and went back to my beloved prestiges. (y)
 

HeadClassic

Rookie
Well folks, I've been hitting with my PT57A 16x19 for a couple of months now at a lower weight to try out the new trend (Popyrin/Karatsev) of 338g strung. I've been playing terrible. It had seemed as if my backhand slice and volley disappeared.

Well, last week I bumped up the weight to 360g strung adding tape to 3 and 9. What a dream. Suddenly I have a backhand slice and I can volley again. My serve is more massive. Sweet spot is better with the added tape. By the way, I also play with tape underneath the bumper lining all the way around the top from 3 to 9. I don't know my swingweight, but I'm guessing it's easily 350+ I love it!

It's official. From now on, I will always play PT57A weighted up.
 

ChrisG

Professional
Food for thought: can a PT57E start to feel like a PT57A after years of stringing?

I've had a couple PT280 MIA in the past, but sold them because I felt like they lacked power. My i. prestige's felt better on that aspect, so I kept them.

Now, some 5 years later, I've started missing a little bit of oomph on my shots. I still love the precision and comfort my racquets provide, but ouch it is tough to hit a winner that I know my opponent won't be able to reach (I play mostly on clay).


What do you think? :unsure:

Should I be blaming my racquets being ~5 years older or my body for being equally older? :-D
Dropping the tension as @vsbabolat said is the right move. I've strung mine at 20kg on a dropweight with poor flying clamps, so they feel more like 17-18kg. I have short grommet on 3 and Caps on the other 2. I love Tourna silver 7 tour on the I.prestige. crispiness and bite is a good combination to add to the PT57E.
 

GuilhermeG

Rookie
Dropping the tension as @vsbabolat said is the right move. I've strung mine at 20kg on a dropweight with poor flying clamps, so they feel more like 17-18kg. I have short grommet on 3 and Caps on the other 2. I love Tourna silver 7 tour on the I.prestige. crispiness and bite is a good combination to add to the PT57E.
I've strung mine exactly at 20kg, and it feels great indeed! Felt like the sweetspot also had a noticeable increase (much more than I predicted).

I'm even considering an even lower tension next time, but first I'm checking how long this stringjob will last.
 

ChrisG

Professional
I've strung mine exactly at 20kg, and it feels great indeed! Felt like the sweetspot also had a noticeable increase (much more than I predicted).

I'm even considering an even lower tension next time, but first I'm checking how long this stringjob will last.
You’re right regarding the sweet spot, it feels like it get bigger. Personally I never break strings but I think lower tension allows a better durability
 

Arjuntino

New User
Hello fellow pt57'ers I got a mystery for you.

So I got two 16X19 PT57S, but when I was stringing them, I realized one is different than the other.

Now I'm not sure if it's actually a different prostock, or maybe just customized for someone else.

Both are prestige paint job without the mp/pro etc.

If you look at the top strings the cross starts sooner. And head shape looks a little different. I got the one without the lead tape as a hairpin, so am pretty certain about that one.
The racket with the tape has a throat code. Anywhere I can check that?
It is 1295020.

The one I got as a hairpin doesn't have a throat code.

Before I go and remove the pallet, thought i'd check here.

I put them next to my head tt candycane for comparison.

 

Arjuntino

New User
Take a look at the Racquet side. What is printed on it: Prestige MP, Pro, Tour?
For example, if the above racket is a PT57 then only "Prestige" is printed on it.
For Retail Racquets, see racquet specifications for comparison:
https://www.head.com/de_DE/tennis/racquets.html
There is nothing printed. Just prestige. And it has a throat code. I think it is a prostock for a different racket.
I have been comparing it to pictures of rackets, can't find one woth the top cross starting so high up.

 

Arjuntino

New User
Easiest way to find out is by removing the pallets.
True, I might do that if I can't figure out what it is. It has been difficult for me to get the pallet to stick after removing. I don't have a staple gun. I tried glue + electrical tape and last year I had a racket fly 20 feet in the air on a serve .
 
True, I might do that if I can't figure out what it is. It has been difficult for me to get the pallet to stick after removing. I don't have a staple gun. I tried glue + electrical tape and last year I had a racket fly 20 feet in the air on a serve .
I never use staple gun; instead I use small nails from board pins; works perfectly fine.
Without any glue; just two sided adhesive tape as it's done originally by Head (but less amount to make life easier in case I would like to change pallets again in the future) :)
 

Phantasm

Semi-Pro
Been hitting with 16x19 PT57a recently. Probably still in my honeymoon period, but having such a blast hitting with it.

Current specs are 334gm/31.4cm balance and 325 SW.


Definitely lower on the power spectrum compared to some modern frames but far from underpowered. Using gut poly hybrid to get a bit more free power helps too. I get easy depth and surprisingly good topspin/slice on my groundstrokes and serve. The frame definitely gives me the confidence to go for my shots and serves and I definitely can't blame the racquet for my mistakes lol. Haven't hit with my PT630s in a couple years but definitely more forgiving with this with the higher launch angle and bit more free power from the more open pattern. Also doesn't feel like a 95 sq inch, feels bigger when I hit with it sweet-spot wise.
 

taylor15

Hall of Fame
Been hitting with 16x19 PT57a recently. Probably still in my honeymoon period, but having such a blast hitting with it.

Current specs are 334gm/31.4cm balance and 325 SW.


Definitely lower on the power spectrum compared to some modern frames but far from underpowered. Using gut poly hybrid to get a bit more free power helps too. I get easy depth and surprisingly good topspin/slice on my groundstrokes and serve. The frame definitely gives me the confidence to go for my shots and serves and I definitely can't blame the racquet for my mistakes lol. Haven't hit with my PT630s in a couple years but definitely more forgiving with this with the higher launch angle and bit more free power from the more open pattern. Also doesn't feel like a 95 sq inch, feels bigger when I hit with it sweet-spot wise.
How did you acquire this beauty? The one unicorn I can’t find - PT57a 16x19. Also love the touch prestige paint job.
 
Compared to an i.Prestige MP or a Radical Tour that you can find for 50-100 euros, i wonder if they would really improve ones game by a factor of x5 to x10, to justify the price difference....
Allow me to be sceptical 8-B
 

taylor15

Hall of Fame
Compared to an i.Prestige MP or a Radical Tour that you can find for 50-100 euros, i wonder if they would really improve ones game by a factor of x5 to x10, to justify the price difference....
Allow me to be sceptical 8-B
Totally allowed. With the price difference you can get 5 Radical Tours and have them all sent to CTR for some really great paint. I have one Rad Tour zebra on the way, and if I can find a second it's going for blackout treatment.
 

Phantasm

Semi-Pro
Compared to an i.Prestige MP or a Radical Tour that you can find for 50-100 euros, i wonder if they would really improve ones game by a factor of x5 to x10, to justify the price difference....
Allow me to be sceptical 8-B
Honestly, no it probably does not make me play better relative to the price point compared to a comparable retail racket.

I personally got it as a mix between my fascination with rare racquets and wanting to try what Andy Murray uses. I personally found it worth the investment so far.
 

PhilSki

Rookie
@vsbabolat, @dr325i and other Head aficionados - I’ve seen a Head Radical Tour ‘Zebra’ MP for sale and it has the hairpin code TK57A-2. It’s not been advertised as a prostock with ‘Zebra’ paint. I would have expected the code TK57B to be there as Zebras and Candycanes are meant to be PT57Bs. See image below;


I have since read on a forum specialising in strings that early versions of Zebras did indeed have TK57A-2 printed on the hairpins which were ‘notched’ and later ones TK57B without notches on the hairpins.

Please can this be explained to me as I’m somewhat confused!
 

Hilgibaby

New User
Hello PT57 lovers,

my name is Michael an i am new here. I read this thread and others with enthusiasm.

I've been looking for a pt57a for a long time. I own a Pt57b Candycane and thought of buying a pt57e for cheap. Upon arrival, however, this turned out not to be an MP but rather a Head Intelligence prestige mid-size. Which is probably not one of the pt57's. It's still a very nice racquet.
I have now bought a Youtek prestige prestige, which should be a PT57a - paintjob.
I thought the beam was 20 mm on the pt57a. Now I'm not sure if it's really a pt57a. The paint job says 21 mm beam.
That should be my Sunday raquet and only leave the place of honor in the room now and then.
I come from Germany and hope my English is okay (also rely on partial translation ).
The raquet hasn't arrived yet, but I'm trying to share photos from the online purchase.
I would be grateful for an assessment.
 

Phantasm

Semi-Pro
For future reference TK291A grommets did come in red and they do fit a PT57A 16x19, but they are square at the bottom and slightly lower quality than TK293A. Anyone have a link for red TK293A grommets?
Can you explain what you saw in the difference in quality? Are the more brittle or flimsy? thinking of getting 291As grommets casue I'm looking for red grommets but if they're that bad I'll just go for the clear Tk293As...
 

Steepnest

New User
Just got back into tennis in the last 3 months after close to a decade away.

I've tried many rackets, notably an RF97, various models of Wilson Blades, a Pure Strike (v3), an Angell TC95 16x19. Nothing that could make me feel comfortable.

Then I fished out my old i.Prestige from the closet, strung it up with some Solinco Hyper G, and it played like a dream. Like an extension of my arm almost. Now balls just go where I want them to, and somehow I'm just better able to process the feel from the frame. It's hard to describe the feeling, but all I do is daydream about my last session and look forward to my next one.

I'm so glad I still had my old i.Prestige lying around. Last week I decided to commit, and managed to find another prestine on from a seller locally. I also picked another 2 pieces off ****, and they're on the way. I think I'm gonna stay with these frames for quite awhile.

I'm just so excited that I had to share.
 

rafa_prestige89

Professional
I've tried many rackets, notably an RF97, various models of Wilson Blades, a Pure Strike (v3), an Angell TC95 16x19. Nothing that could make me feel comfortable.

Then I fished out my old i.Prestige from the closet, strung it up with some Solinco Hyper G, and it played like a dream. Like an extension of my arm almost. Now balls just go where I want them to, and somehow I'm just better able to process the feel from the frame. It's hard to describe the feeling, but all I do is daydream about my last session and look forward to my next one.

I'm so glad I still had my old i.Prestige lying around. Last week I decided to commit, and managed to find another prestine on from a seller locally. I also picked another 2 pieces off ****, and they're on the way. I think I'm gonna stay with these frames for quite awhile.

I'm just so excited that I had to share.
This racquet is really awesome!
 

Steepnest

New User
Just got back into tennis in the last 3 months after close to a decade away.

I've tried many rackets, notably an RF97, various models of Wilson Blades, a Pure Strike (v3), an Angell TC95 16x19. Nothing that could make me feel comfortable.

Then I fished out my old i.Prestige from the closet, strung it up with some Solinco Hyper G, and it played like a dream. Like an extension of my arm almost. Now balls just go where I want them to, and somehow I'm just better able to process the feel from the frame. It's hard to describe the feeling, but all I do is daydream about my last session and look forward to my next one.

I'm so glad I still had my old i.Prestige lying around. Last week I decided to commit, and managed to find another prestine on from a seller locally. I also picked another 2 pieces off ****, and they're on the way. I think I'm gonna stay with these frames for quite awhile.

I'm just so excited that I had to share.
So I managed to gather all my sticks for a pic. Think I’m pretty set for a good while. 4 viable i.Prestiges. One cracked one (on the right) which I scavenged pallets from.

 
Looks like even back in the day they had paintjobs. This is obviously not a pro tour since not box beam ;)
Different grommet too but I'm not so sure if it's PT paintjob... maybe it's original pj for this model?
These days Head has had many pj with this same scheme (black, colour, black, colour) done by aerograph and the number of colours is limited ;)

But maybe you're right... if so then nice find.
 

Slodge630

Rookie
True, could be. Unfortunately i don’t find a picture where one can see it from the side. But it looks blue/black. I don’t know of any other model from this time with these colors
 
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