The Curse of Denying Roger Federer

[Kalin]

I keep reading all the different explanations of Cilic's breakdown in the final- bad foot, bad knee, panic attack etc. All wrong.

The truth, of course, is that Cilic fell victim to the Curse of Denying Roger Federer (CODRF). Basically, he denied the 2014 US Open title to its rightful owner, Roger Federer and what happened in the final on Sunday was a retribution for that.

Don't believe in the curse? Ask Juan-Martin del Potro. He also denied Roger Federer a US Open title that was rightfully his (Roger Federer's) and was cursed to be injured for a long time after that. Painful.

Novak Djokovic denied Roger Federer several big titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to go from World No.1 and a heartthrob on the Sub-Continent to being Pepe Imaz's doormat. Sad.

Andy Murray, still have no idea how, denied Roger Federer the Olympic Title that was rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed with having history's worst run of a No.1 player + a bad hip + well, being Andy Murray. Cruel.

Rafael Nadal denied Roger Federer many titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to spend the second half of every year nursing injuries, real and/or imagined + an itchy bottom (yuck). He, however, saw the error of his ways and, in the beginning of 2017, started rolling over every time he met Roger Federer in a tennis match. He was immediately rewarded with a title at a somewhat big tournament played on broken bricks in front of an obnoxious crowd. Redemption.

If you need conclusive proof, just look at Thomas Berdych. He never denied Roger Federer anything and he is healthy, rich, handsome and has a stunning wife. Smart.

 

[Rago]

If you need conclusive proof, just look at Thomas Berdych. He never denied Roger Federer anything and he is healthy, rich, handsome and has a stunning wife. Smart.

Not really. He denied Federer in Athens at the Olympics. Look at how his career turned out in big matches. Still slamless.

 

[ibbi]

In addition to the above, Tommy Berdy also kept Papa Rog from playing 8 Wimbledon finals in a row, not to mention when he beat him at the US Open in 2012 he ended his run of trips to at least the semi final there, kept him from making at least the semis of all 4 majors that year, ended his little win streak begun at Wimby, continued through Cincy, and into NY, and most importantly of all allowed Andy Murray to win a grand slam title.

 

[Jackuar]

Roddick beat Fed in their very first meeting; which spoiled his entire career. The two other times he beat him have gives more career woes; the last time he beat him in 2012, he retired.

 

[Kalin]

Not really. He denied Federer in Athens at the Olympics. Look at how his career turned out in big matches. Still slamless.

In addition to the above, Tommy Berdy also kept Papa Rog from playing 8 Wimbledon finals in a row, not to mention when he beat him at the US Open in 2012 he ended his run of trips to at least the semi final there, kept him from making at least the semis of all 4 majors that year, ended his little win streak begun at Wimby, continued through Cincy, and into NY, and most importantly of all allowed Andy Murray to win a grand slam title.

Good points; so turns out Birdman is a victim of the Curse too.

Roddick beat Fed in their very first meeting; which spoiled his entire career. The two other times he beat him have gives more career woes; the last time he beat him in 2012, he retired.

I was thinking of A-Rod but his biggest curse was always Roger Federer himself, IMO. Seems cruel to pile on more curses onto him

 

[SLD76]

Excellent poast

 

[mavsman149]

If only I could be so cursed as to be some of those people above.....

 

[BeatlesFan]

If you need conclusive proof, just look at Thomas Berdych. He never denied Roger Federer anything and he is healthy, rich, handsome and has a stunning wife. Smart.

I agree that Berdy is handsome and his wife is beautiful, but he did deny Roger the 2010 Wimbledon. Had Berdy not dumped Roger, Fed would have been the favorite against Nadal in the '10 Wimbledon final. And what about the 2012 USO where Berdy beat him in the QF's? It's pretty certain Roger would have creamed Muzz in the final.

 

[Fedfan34]

I agree that Berdy is handsome and his wife is beautiful, but he did deny Roger the 2010 Wimbledon. Had Berdy not dumped Roger, Fed would have been the favorite against Nadal in the '10 Wimbledon final. And what about the 2012 USO where Berdy beat him in the QF's? It's pretty certain Roger would have creamed Muzz in the final.

In which Universe? Not ours surely.

 

[Gazelle]

Roddick beat Fed in their very first meeting; which spoiled his entire career. The two other times he beat him have gives more career woes; the last time he beat him in 2012, he retired.

Uuurgghh I hate wrong facts.

 

[Sereger]

Is it called God's will? He is definitely ruthless when punishes Nadal getting an itchy bottom, which may likely last forever lol

 

[metsman]

Not really. He denied Federer in Athens at the Olympics. Look at how his career turned out in big matches. Still slamless.

Federer served like 10 doubles in that match. Denied himself. Berdych is in the clear.

 

[Sirius Black]

Delbonis beat Federer in 2013 and now he waits tables at a run down Denver Denny's

 

[Kalin]

Delbonis beat Federer in 2013 and now he waits tables at a run down Denver Denny's

Wow, the curse seems to not discriminate

 

[Jaitock1991]

I agree that Berdy is handsome and his wife is beautiful, but he did deny Roger the 2010 Wimbledon. Had Berdy not dumped Roger, Fed would have been the favorite against Nadal in the '10 Wimbledon final. And what about the 2012 USO where Berdy beat him in the QF's? It's pretty certain Roger would have creamed Muzz in the final.

Not that certain actually, as he would have played Muzz in the semi

 

[Tennisanity]

More truth to this than it would seem. Federer plays within himself, he chooses not to go all out thus allowing him to play for such a long time at a high level. Others go for broke and roll the dice.

 

[Sentinel]

So every title is rightfully Roger's ?

 

[Sentinel]

Federer plays with himself

 

[Sereger]

Does it applicable for Lord Gulbis, after the 2014 FO?

 

[Jackuar]

Uuurgghh I hate wrong facts.

Please, I'd love to hear the right ones. The last time I checked, their H2H was 4-21.

 

[Kalin]

So every title is rightfully Roger's ?

No, of course not. On May 11, 1997 the ITF Junior Circuit held the Category G2 Prato International Junior Tournament in Italy on clay and that tournament was rightfully Luca Kutanjac's and Roger Federer came and took that away from him. Since then, Roger has been under the Denying Luca Kutjanac Curse... every time he knows his wife he has to have twins. Hence his obsession with playing tennis and Mirka's forlorn look.

Does it applicable for Lord Gulbis, after the 2014 FO?

Gulbis is a victim of a much more powerful curse... the Dying Seagull Curse

 

[roundiesee]

I keep reading all the different explanations of Cilic's breakdown in the final- bad foot, bad knee, panic attack etc. All wrong.

The truth, of course, is that Cilic fell victim to the Curse of Denying Roger Federer (CODRF). Basically, he denied the 2014 US Open title to its rightful owner, Roger Federer and what happened in the final on Sunday was a retribution for that.

Don't believe in the curse? Ask Juan-Martin del Potro. He also denied Roger Federer a US Open title that was rightfully his (Roger Federer's) and was cursed to be injured for a long time after that. Painful.

Novak Djokovic denied Roger Federer several big titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to go from World No.1 and a heartthrob on the Sub-Continent to being Pepe Imaz's doormat. Sad.

Andy Murray, still have no idea how, denied Roger Federer the Olympic Title that was rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed with having history's worst run of a No.1 player + a bad hip + well, being Andy Murray. Cruel.

Rafael Nadal denied Roger Federer many titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to spend the second half of every year nursing injuries, real and/or imagined + an itchy bottom (yuck). He, however, saw the error of his ways and, in the beginning of 2017, started rolling over every time he met Roger Federer in a tennis match. He was immediately rewarded with a title at a somewhat big tournament played on broken bricks in front of an obnoxious crowd. Redemption.

If you need conclusive proof, just look at Thomas Berdych. He never denied Roger Federer anything and he is healthy, rich, handsome and has a stunning wife. Smart.

Hilarious!

 

[gn]

Slaminal was forgiven for stopping Noel from completing CYGS.

 

[Steve0904]

Please, I'd love to hear the right ones. The last time I checked, their H2H was 4-21.

Montreal 2003 (which Roddick won) was not the first meeting. That came in Basel in 2001 (which Federer won). Also, he only beat Federer 3 times.

 

[Kalin]

Update: Alert curse expert Sentinel (@Sentinel) has alerted me to an appendix to the CODRF, the even more powerful, shall I even say cruel and brutal, Jinx-Curse of Sureshs Endorsement (J-COSE).

An example here: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/rao-will-win-a-slam-soon.508567/#post-11431254

I would list more, even more shocking, examples but we have children reading these forums (@Vamos_Brigade) and I don't want to damage their delicate psyches.

The J-COSE is, of course, corollary to the opposite and, arguably, most powerful curse, or rather anti-curse, the (in)famous Anti-Curse of Sureshs & 90's Clay Failure Prediction (ACSNCFP). This one has the (admittedly unintended) effect of cancelling all previous curses and elevating the cursee to previously unheard heights of mind-boggling success. Examples can be found all over the internets. Caution: say goodbye to your loved ones before reading them; you may die laughing.

 

[Mainad]

Andy Murray, still have no idea how, denied Roger Federer the Olympic Title that was rightfully Roger Federer's

Watch the match again and you'll see how!

and was cursed with having history's worst run of a No.1 player + a bad hip + well, being Andy Murray. Cruel.

But he hasn't had history's worst run of a #1 player (although it's not been a particularly successful one). Moreover, after beating Fed at the 2012 Olympics he went on to win his 1st Slam title at the US Open then beat Fed again at 2013 AO and went on to win his 1st Wimbledon title! Up until the end of last year, he has gone from strength to strength and achieved almost all there is to achieve in tennis. That's SOME curse. We should all be Andy Murray!!

 

[Bender]

So every title is rightfully Roger's ?

It's the Federer version of the moral slam

 

[Kalin]

Watch the match again and you'll see how!

Can't, I am afraid the curse is contagious

But he hasn't had history's worst run of a #1 player (although it's not been a particularly successful one)

Well, it was pretty crappy Who had the worst? Must have been a really bad run then.

 

[Bilders]

Not that certain actually, as he would have played Muzz in the semi

Djokovic.

 

[kabob]

Montreal 2003 (which Roddick won) was not the first meeting. That came in Basel in 2001 (which Federer won). Also, he only beat Federer 3 times.

Spot on.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/fedex-head-2-head/roger-federer-vs-andy-roddick/F324/R485

Weirdly enough, two of those three wins over Fed were at Miami

 

[Mainad]

Well, it was pretty crappy Who had the worst? Must have been a really bad run then.

Try Becker or Wilander or Roddick or Safin or Kafelnikov or Ferrero or Moya or Rafter or Rios.

 

[donquijote]

I keep reading all the different explanations of Cilic's breakdown in the final- bad foot, bad knee, panic attack etc. All wrong.

The truth, of course, is that Cilic fell victim to the Curse of Denying Roger Federer (CODRF). Basically, he denied the 2014 US Open title to its rightful owner, Roger Federer and what happened in the final on Sunday was a retribution for that.

Don't believe in the curse? Ask Juan-Martin del Potro. He also denied Roger Federer a US Open title that was rightfully his (Roger Federer's) and was cursed to be injured for a long time after that. Painful.

Novak Djokovic denied Roger Federer several big titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to go from World No.1 and a heartthrob on the Sub-Continent to being Pepe Imaz's doormat. Sad.

Andy Murray, still have no idea how, denied Roger Federer the Olympic Title that was rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed with having history's worst run of a No.1 player + a bad hip + well, being Andy Murray. Cruel.

Rafael Nadal denied Roger Federer many titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to spend the second half of every year nursing injuries, real and/or imagined + an itchy bottom (yuck). He, however, saw the error of his ways and, in the beginning of 2017, started rolling over every time he met Roger Federer in a tennis match. He was immediately rewarded with a title at a somewhat big tournament played on broken bricks in front of an obnoxious crowd. Redemption.

If you need conclusive proof, just look at Thomas Berdych. He never denied Roger Federer anything and he is healthy, rich, handsome and has a stunning wife. Smart.

To add to the Nadal case, he immediately started losing hair after denying Federer in Wimbledon 2008 final. Also he still has no family and children at 30.

 

[donquijote]

Denying a Federer record comes with long-term consequences too. Look at what happened to Сергій Стаховський or better known as Sergiy Eduardovych Stakhovsky after beating seven-time winner and defending champion Roger Federer in the 2nd round of the 2013 Wimbledon Championships ending his record run of 36 consecutive Grand Slam quarterfinals. He was as high as #31 in the rankings prior to this unfortunate event. Currently he is #122 and a journeyman in challenger tournaments trying to make a living from tennis.

 

[sbengte]

I keep reading all the different explanations of Cilic's breakdown in the final- bad foot, bad knee, panic attack etc. All wrong.

The truth, of course, is that Cilic fell victim to the Curse of Denying Roger Federer (CODRF). Basically, he denied the 2014 US Open title to its rightful owner, Roger Federer and what happened in the final on Sunday was a retribution for that.

Don't believe in the curse? Ask Juan-Martin del Potro. He also denied Roger Federer a US Open title that was rightfully his (Roger Federer's) and was cursed to be injured for a long time after that. Painful.

Novak Djokovic denied Roger Federer several big titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to go from World No.1 and a heartthrob on the Sub-Continent to being Pepe Imaz's doormat. Sad.

Andy Murray, still have no idea how, denied Roger Federer the Olympic Title that was rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed with having history's worst run of a No.1 player + a bad hip + well, being Andy Murray. Cruel.

Rafael Nadal denied Roger Federer many titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to spend the second half of every year nursing injuries, real and/or imagined + an itchy bottom (yuck). He, however, saw the error of his ways and, in the beginning of 2017, started rolling over every time he met Roger Federer in a tennis match. He was immediately rewarded with a title at a somewhat big tournament played on broken bricks in front of an obnoxious crowd. Redemption.

If you need conclusive proof, just look at Thomas Berdych. He never denied Roger Federer anything and he is healthy, rich, handsome and has a stunning wife. Smart.

Is this the MLPOAT ?

 

[Kalin]

Try Becker or Wilander or Roddick or Safin or Kafelnikov or Ferrero or Moya or Rafter or Rios.

All cursed. Becker criticized SABR (the horror!). The curse works backwards too. Wilander refuses to start each show with a prayer for Roger and even at some point dared to suggest Rafa could be a better player (gasp!). It's a miracle none of them has been struck by lightning yet.

Roddick dared to try and beat Roger in a Wimbledon final. Safin DID beat Roger at the AO... expect him to go fat and ugly soon too! Kafelnikov is Russian (like Safin) and Ferrero is obviously the name of an Italian chocolate brand which is an insult to a pure blood proud Swiss like Roger (easily identifiable by traces of cow DNA). Moya coaches Rafa, enuf said. Rafter and Rios both have the temerity to have names starting with the same letter 'R' (rightfully belonging to RogeR FedeReR) plus both dared to have a ponytail which, naturally, is a look reserved for the young version of Roger Federer.

So you see, it all makes sense. Andy is lucky he figured it out soon enough and has diligently worked on a 5-match losing streak to Roger Federer, thus reducing the effect of the curse to a manageable state.

Denying a Federer record comes with long-term consequences too. Look at what happened to Сергій Стаховський or better known as Sergiy Eduardovych Stakhovsky after beating seven-time winner and defending champion Roger Federer in the 2nd round of the 2013 Wimbledon Championships ending his record run of 36 consecutive Grand Slam quarterfinals. He was as high as #31 in the rankings prior to this unfortunate event. Currently he is #122 and a journeyman in challenger tournaments trying to make a living from tennis.

Yup, the curse is indeed long-lasting. Toni Nadal just thinks he has got off scot-free... just wait

 

[Kalin]

Is this the MLPOAT ?

Most Liked Poast of All Time? It needs an anti-endorsement from 90's Clay to get there. A cameo by Sureshs can't hurt either.

 

[merlinpinpin]

Try Becker or Wilander or Roddick or Safin or Kafelnikov or Ferrero or Moya or Rafter or Rios.

Well, Rafter at 1 week total seems like a good candidate. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Chang wouldn't have minded even the one week--at some stage (ie when Rafter dismantled him in that US Open semifinal), he was #2 at exactly *1* ranking point behind Sampras.

 

[donquijote]

14 Aug 2008
2008 Beijing Olympics: Roger Federer stunned by James Blake
No 1 seed Roger Federer has been knocked out of the men's singles at the quarter-final stage in Beijing, losing 6-4, 7-6 to American James Blake.

9 September 2015
Former US No 1 James Blake 'slammed to ground' by police in mistaken detention

 

[Mainad]

14 Aug 2008
2008 Beijing Olympics: Roger Federer stunned by James Blake
No 1 seed Roger Federer has been knocked out of the men's singles at the quarter-final stage in Beijing, losing 6-4, 7-6 to American James Blake.

9 September 2015
Former US No 1 James Blake 'slammed to ground' by police in mistaken detention

Maybe that copper was an aggrieved Fedfan?

 

[Poisoned Slice]

 

[BHServe]

Pure gold.

You think stak and tommy robredo had guts to beat fed just because they knew they would not need to sacrifice any future success doing so? (Read:they knew there would not be any future success anyway)

 

[TennisLovaLova]

OP is the GOAT

 

[donquijote]

Maybe that copper was an aggrieved Fedfan?

Blake's subconscious knew that he should have stood there in front of the hotel and get punished for his past sins against Roger.

Self-punishment (or the "need for punishment") is a tendency, postulated by Freud, which drives certain subjects to inflict suffering upon themselves and search out painful situations, for the purpose of neutralizing a feeling of unconscious guilt.

 

[Mainad]

Blake's subconscious knew that he should have stood there in front of the hotel and get punished for his past sins against Roger.

Self-punishment (or the "need for punishment") is a tendency, postulated by Freud, which drives certain subjects to inflict suffering upon themselves and search out painful situations, for the purpose of neutralizing a feeling of unconscious guilt.

Wow, so that cop could READ Blake's subconscious? The NYPD are just awesome!!!

 

[Newballs]

No, of course not. On May 11, 1997 the ITF Junior Circuit held the Category G2 Prato International Junior Tournament in Italy on clay and that tournament was rightfully Luca Kutanjac's and Roger Federer came and took that away from him. Since then, Roger has been under the Denying Luca Kutjanac Curse... every time he knows his wife he has to have twins. Hence his obsession with playing tennis and Mirka's forlorn look.



Gulbis is a victim of a much more powerful curse... the Dying Seagull Curse

That forehand is something else...

 

[donquijote]

Wow, so that cop could READ Blake's subconscious? The NYPD are just awesome!!!

Seems like you don't grasp how human subconscious works. Check Suresh's Federer prophecies. He is only looking to be punished for not acknowledging his artistry. I suggest you read Freud's book Eating Disorders and the case of Big Fella.

 

[FiReFTW]

OP amazing thread, havent laughed as hard in a while.

 

[roundiesee]

Update: Alert curse expert Sentinel (@Sentinel) has alerted me to an appendix to the CODRF, the even more powerful, shall I even say cruel and brutal, Jinx-Curse of Sureshs Endorsement (J-COSE).

An example here: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/rao-will-win-a-slam-soon.508567/#post-11431254

I would list more, even more shocking, examples but we have children reading these forums (@Vamos_Brigade) and I don't want to damage their delicate psyches.

The J-COSE is, of course, corollary to the opposite and, arguably, most powerful curse, or rather anti-curse, the (in)famous Anti-Curse of Sureshs & 90's Clay Failure Prediction (ACSNCFP). This one has the (admittedly unintended) effect of cancelling all previous curses and elevating the cursee to previously unheard heights of mind-boggling success. Examples can be found all over the internets. Caution: say goodbye to your loved ones before reading them; you may die laughing.

This gets funnier and better by the minute

 

[stringertom]

I keep reading all the different explanations of Cilic's breakdown in the final- bad foot, bad knee, panic attack etc. All wrong.

The truth, of course, is that Cilic fell victim to the Curse of Denying Roger Federer (CODRF). Basically, he denied the 2014 US Open title to its rightful owner, Roger Federer and what happened in the final on Sunday was a retribution for that.

Don't believe in the curse? Ask Juan-Martin del Potro. He also denied Roger Federer a US Open title that was rightfully his (Roger Federer's) and was cursed to be injured for a long time after that. Painful.

Novak Djokovic denied Roger Federer several big titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to go from World No.1 and a heartthrob on the Sub-Continent to being Pepe Imaz's doormat. Sad.

Andy Murray, still have no idea how, denied Roger Federer the Olympic Title that was rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed with having history's worst run of a No.1 player + a bad hip + well, being Andy Murray. Cruel.

Rafael Nadal denied Roger Federer many titles that were rightfully Roger Federer's and was cursed to spend the second half of every year nursing injuries, real and/or imagined + an itchy bottom (yuck). He, however, saw the error of his ways and, in the beginning of 2017, started rolling over every time he met Roger Federer in a tennis match. He was immediately rewarded with a title at a somewhat big tournament played on broken bricks in front of an obnoxious crowd. Redemption.

If you need conclusive proof, just look at Thomas Berdych. He never denied Roger Federer anything and he is healthy, rich, handsome and has a stunning wife. Smart.

Excellent poast but BerdPoo has been denied his slam for stopping fedr from defending his title at Wimby'10. For that transgression he has also been sentenced to a lifetime of being The Czech Republic's second sexiest man behind SexiRadek.

 

[stringertom]

Delbonis beat Federer in 2013 and now he waits tables at a run down Denver Denny's

Donskoy beat fedr and now he has to go over and do Safin's post-orgy laundry. Luckily, he had an endorsement deal with 20-Mule Team Borax.