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  1. BeatlesFan

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    Annacone was saying some nice things about the Donald in his match against Brown. Paul thinks Donald might actually make it into the top 30. It's been a long time coming, but better late than never! :)
     
  2. bluetrain4

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    His solid season continues. I don't think he's lost a first round match all year. Since he's been successful on hard courts, I'm wondering if he is not looking forward to the clay season. He doesn't seem to travel away from North America for long stretches. I think last year he played just one (Lyon is the one I remember) Euro clay event right before the French and then the French last year.

    I bet after he plays US Clay Courts in Houston, he might limit his Euro clay season this year as well, though his improved ranking offers him more options for European Clay tournaments (basically auto entry into any 250 and some 500s; But, the clay Masters are smaller than IW and Miami, so a 50 ranking probably won't get him in automatically, and he didn't play qualifying for those last year?), so he may play an additional tournament.
     
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    Was Annacone announcing or is he DY's coach?
     
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    I think if the Donald keeps doing well in tournament play, there no reason for him not enter into Clay court season in the EU; especially those tournaments that did not go to into in the previous year! It just builds up the ranking points for the Donald.
     
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    The Donald second conservative win over Pouille #11 and is into the 3rd in Miami! The Donald is against another Frenchman Paire - an hit and cold player!
     
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    Wow. The second win in two seeks over Pouille really shows me something. Remember, before Indian Wells, DY had never beaten Pouille - in fact he had been beaten down a couple times. So, DY beats him at IW in three sets - maybe just one of those days for Pouille, probably just a one-off. But, then to come back and beat him handily in Miami. Impressive.

    I've said it before - DY is far past the prodigy, or next great American player stage (that didn't ever come close to paning out). He's a journeyman. But, in this day and age of people hitting their peak much later than they used to, he's figured something out - how to compete, how to accept the ups and downs of the tour (a first round or unexpected loss doesn't have to send you into a tailspin), how to comeback and blow off bad sets. He's matured. No, I don't think he's going to be winning slams, or even making the QFs. But, he has a real chance to have a nice three or so years, and really maintain a 35-60 ranking and always get auto entry into Slams for those years, and make some decent money, and, my biggest hope - win a tournament, even if it's just a 250.

    Lol, I bet he's really not happy the winter/spring hardcourt season is ending. I think he should just pat himself on the back and take the clay season in stride. Compete hard, see what he can do, and look forward to the mini-grass season and then the North American hardcourt summer season. It's not that I think he's bad on clay. It's just that he's had such a good hardcourt run and has gained confidence that I don't want him to lose that confidence if the results on clay aren't the same. There's a whole other population of people who can beat him on clay, and it is generally his worst surface.
     
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    Pouille was claiming to be under the weather during the match. He had the doctor come to court and got some anti-nausea drugs. The level of play for most of the match was about top junior level at best.

    Still, he was jogging for the finish line when Pouille came back to tie the match in the second. Donald dug in, went on a mini-roll and closed it out. Five years ago, he may have lost a match like that. Don needs to win those kinds of matches to maintain and continue up the rankings.
     
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    Yes, he's found a higher gear since a disappointing start in Oz but I'm more impressed with two other wins vs Querrey and Isner than beating a still hampered Pouille. There was a pecking order in US tennis that Young obliged until those wins in Memphis (Isner) and IW (Querrey off an Acapulco title no less). That, and he's beaten quite a few other players that old Donald might have stumbled against...Fritz, Mannarino, Ivo. The one loss in this streak that hurts most was to Ryan Harrison (now 2-5 vs him) in the Memphis SFs, depriving him of his best chance at that elusive ATP title. Basilashvili in the final would have been very winnable.

    It's all good though. Clay and grass are not his long suits but playing through the next 3+ months is not optional. Europe is a great place to visit while you're making some cash. Maybe Newport'16 SFs with 2 wins vs teens Donaldson and Kozlov and a nice upset of The Package will give him some confidence when grass season comes.
     
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    Draw has opened up nicely too
     
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    Not only this event, but a number so far this year.

    What feels different to me is that this era seems different than good periods earlier in his career. He seems more calm outwardly during matches. His footwork still needs work, but has improved. He appears to have a long-term match strategy and calmly stick to it throughout the match.

    Could this era of the Don stick around, and improve, for years to come? I would be pretty cool for American tennis if it did.
     
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    He's been very good this year at letting leads slip away, yet not freaking out and still winning. In the past if he was up 4-1, or 4-2 and it got to 4-4, he could kiss the set goodbye.
     
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    He has been winning more and his results do not feel or look flukish. His game really looks different, matured, and improved this time around. I like seeing him seemingly meditating on changeovers.

    Should we start another thread titled, "The New Donald!"
     
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    Destroying the French like the Duke of Wellington
     
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    The New Real Donald: No Fake News!

    Or

    Donald and Donaldson: Making American Tennis Great Again!
     
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    Donald may win a Major this year and fulfill Nick Bolletiereri's predictions about him......
     
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    Ahhhh if those are the choices, I might add "The Donald 2.0" ?
     
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    The Donald: His Second Term
     
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    That is both appropriate and quite nauseating at the same time. What next, The Donald get five walkovers to win the Moscow Open, Putin claims Donald is the best ever? Or, he goes into a slump and the next thread is titled, "The impeachment Hearings."
     
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    DY has a real good chance to make it to the QF. He has a 2-0 H2H vs Fognini. Granted the wins weren't so convincing that DY by any means is a sure thing to win, but he certainly has a better-than-average chance.
     
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    A lot depends on which foggy shows up too
     
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    Young is stringing together a nice run.
    I guess there will be no career change involving flipping burgers.
     
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    Looking like there may be bagels in his future, however.
     
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    Well that was quick
     
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    Even Federer been bagel'd; so what's your point?
     
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    The Donald isn't bad it is just Fognini is on another level.
     
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    Cannot protect your serve + playing against a player Who can protect his serve = bagel

    It is an easy formula.
     
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    Not a good match today, but still a great start to the season.
     
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    Among many other problems. The chief one being he's been coached all his life by his parents. He would never have been a top 20 player even with competent coaching, but at his level, he should have branched out and opened his ears to other people besides his family. Cardinal sin right there.
     
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    Why did The Donald get so angry with the umpire? Wouldn´t shake hands :eek:
     
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    Fogs was clearly better today. Don has performed better against him in the past.

    Not happy with how he conducted himself at the end of the match. That was not a good look. Lost to a higher ranked player. Got fourth round point and fourth round money. He should have walked off the court with a big smile. That is a part of the next level for him.
     
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    That loss to Fognini doesn't look quite so bad after seeing what Fognini did to Nishikori, who only won two more games than DY. Fognini is like that though - his range of play is huge. I was watching some match of his early in the tournament and he looked fairly horrible for most of the match. Even against Harrison, his first match which he won in two sets, he looked very average. Seems to have stepped it up as the tournament progressed.
     
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    Ninjakori was hurt during practice today...right wrist kept him from hitting a regulation FH or serving with any pace.
     
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    Fognini was playing great and made very few errors! The Donald just was there for the ride! It not that the Donald play poorly but Fognini played above his level!
     
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    The Donald after the Miami Open is at near high ranking of 42 in the world! Congrats to Donald!
     
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    Four more spots to climb before equaling his career high but, more importantly, he's now #26 in The Race and only 605 points behind #8 and final London qualifier Goffin.
     
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    I guess that falls into the "dream big or go home" category. I love it.
     
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    While we are dreaming, how about he is 10 spots away from being seeded at the majors!!
     
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    yea but Goffin suck this year
     
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    The Donald has a rough transition to the dirt, losing to fellow lefty Monteiro 1R Houston in straight sets.

    Gonna be a tough couple of months.:(
     
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    Didn't see any racquet slams at all! Donald did not seem to be there mentally or emotionally today.

    The schedulers put Don on an outside court and Tiafoe on stadium. The new phenom is is town? A changing of the guard?
     
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    Donald loses in the first round for the first time this year as he changes to clay. There's a whole different set of player who can challenge him on clay. I think he maintains his rank of 42 with the loss. Anyone know his schedule for the rest the clay/grass season He's never been one to go over to Europe for two straight months or more (granted he rarely had the ranking to play every week in a row in Europe, unless you include challengers). I think last year he played one European clay tournament close to the French (Lyon?) and then the French, then a grass tune-up and then Wimbledon. His ranking might allow him to do a few more tournaments without qualifying this year. But, does he want to?
     
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    Yeah, Tiafoe is an exciting up an comer so he's being highlighted. I doubt DY is a huge draw, as he's a journeyman now. I wouldn't call it a changing of the guard, as DY fell short of becoming "the guard".
     
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    42 in the world now! I think he tied his highest ranking!
     
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    Not yet...that is #38.
     
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