The Donald

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  1. stringertom

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    Yes, for quite a successful run with Navratilova!

    DY draws Sick Nick at Queens.:eek:
     
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    Maybe they will bond over the subject of yet unfulfilled tennis potential.
     
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    DY is done with his valleys of questionable commitment. I don't think he ever had or will have the raw skills Nick possesses.
     
  4. bjk

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    How can DY be an underperformer? He's like 5'9. How many players his height have ever won an ATP tournament?
     
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    Magnificent.
     
  6. jaggy

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    Kind of saw that coming when he fell
     
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    Kyrgios retired after falling over? Any indication of what his injury is?
     
  8. stringertom

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    Olivier Rochus looks up to him three inches and Fabrice Santoro stares at him eye to eye.

    From the older days, Rod Laver and Ken Rosewall also were shorter in height but longer in stature.
     
  9. jaggy

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    He was stretched by a trainer for a while and returned but I suppose this close to Wimbly you dont take chances.
     
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    I have stood next to Donald. He is 5-11 of not 6 feet. He is not an underperformer because of his size. He is the youngest number one junior in history so his career has just been under the microscope from day one.

    Michael Chang, David Ferrer, and Andre Agassi have won a few matches.
     
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    Yeah, Ferrer and Chang and Agassi were champions. They were also freaks. DY is an ordinary guy who is regularly facing opponents with much more firepower and ability. I wouldn't say he's an underperformer, he's doing what you would expect for a soft-hitting lefty with decent speed and basically sound strokes.

    Tennis is filled with juniors whose game didn't transfer to the pros. Watch that movie with Young and Querrey, I forget the name. Agassi has a quote in that movie where he basically says "what happened to all those guys who had huge promise in the juniors? They didn't have the firepower to get to the next level."
     
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    OK, thank you for clearing that up. But anything below 6-1 and you're at a disadvantage.
     
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    Especially if you didn't want to play in the first place!
     
  14. Harry_Wild

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    The Donald is tall enough! Kei is around the same size as the Donald. Has not won GS yet but been in several finals!
     
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    Donald may have caught a bit of a break. He has not played a lot of matches lately. Today's result ensures him of at least one more match on the grass before the W.
     
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    For sure he awaits a Serb...Tipsy or Troicki???
     
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    Takes the first set against Leon Trotsky
     
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    Nice win v. Troicki
     
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    Yes it is! Into the third round of a grass tournament for The Donald. Look out world!
     
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    Great stuff
     
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    I wouldn't say DY is an 'ordinary guy'...

    he has great talent, its just that 'we' only pay attention to like the top 30 guys in the world and pay really close attention to like the top 5 or so.

    what other profession or sport has to face such scrutiny.

    DY is good enough to make a very good living (by any reasonable standards) playing tennis. I'm sure he's a millionaire and lives a very nice life.
     
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    Ferrer and Chang are freaks in the sense that they are off the charts competitors, 1/1000000 in terms of competitive will. DY has turned into a good competitor but he had to learn that. For instance, he fought Ferrer to 11-13 in the fifth set at FO. But you can't fault him for not being a Chang or a Ferrer, very few people are. That was my point, I didn't mean to denigrate Young.
     
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    Especially Chang, who was a great player in his day and so soon forgotten. And we have to point out that both Chang and Ferrer are the far better players than Donald ever has been. Donald also has the advantage of being a lefty and I feel he's never exploited that advantage completely. Especially on the serve.
     
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    Someone with success coaching a low-powered, athletic lefty to so many grass court titles now coaching the Don. This relationship could be a match made in heaven. Hope it works well and produces some results.
     
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    Donald won his singles easily but lost the dubs by squandering 4 MPs in the superbreaker.
     
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    If I'm not mistaken, the summer Young got to his highest ranking was after he spent some months with some other Americans (I think it was Roddick/Querry/et. al) working out and practicing. He came back sharp and playing well. That was the longest he was away from his parents/coach and also his best results.
     
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    All the more painful for losing the match on a double fault from Monroe.
     
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    Time he quit dubs to focus on singles
     
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    He gets the rest of the week of singles only...first is the Cilic/Kozlovski winner.
     
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    Looks like the new additional coach is paying dividends!
     
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    With so few points to defend at this time of this year, and based on this London run with Wimbledon still come, does anybody know what needs to happen for Don to be seeded at the Open?
     
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    Goes out to Cilic who excels at Queens.
     
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    To be safely inside top 32 he needs to net gain about 100 points before Winston Salem. He will be defending 2R Wimby, SF at Newport, 2R at Washington and Canada MS1000 and QF at Atlanta. That's 245 points so he needs just about 345 points from his schedule beginning at SW 19. He would be halfway home with R16 at Wimby.
     
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    A tall task, but doable. He would need to continue to play at the same level that he has this season so far. Some favorable draws would also be a great help.
     
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  35. Harry_Wild

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    Quarterfinals is on grass no less is great move up for The Donald. He was in it against Cilic ! Just that Cilic had more power in the serve and was a champion on grass in this tournament so he had a lot of confidence and it show!
     
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    Nice win over Edmund who would always be a tricky one.
     
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    The Donald at 47th in the world! I think he can break through to the low 40s in the grass court season is over!
     
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    He had a nice win today over Edmund. He's continuing the stabilization of his career as a journeyman. Plays Donaldson tomorrow, which I'd say is a winnable match, but no guarantee. Donaldson is talented and upset Schwartzman in the first round.
     
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    I'm surprised Donaldson had to go deep in the third to beat Diego...Schwartzman has never won a match on grass. DY should win tomorrow and possibly face amor y paz in the QFs.
     
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    First set to The D
     
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    And, he wins in 2 sets v. Donaldson. QF against Djokovic.
     
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    Love to see him win next, has a shot, not sure how up for it Djokey will be
     
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    Yay Don. He looked very calm and composed for much of the match.

    It would be awesome for him to breakthrough in his next match. It would make headlines around the world!

    At a minimum, I am hoping that he just looks good and continues to play at this level.
     
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    The Donald in another QFs and against a top former # 1! The Joker too! The Donald has to play smart to stay with Nole and just win by luck! LOL! Anything is possible, it call breakout match!
     
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    Southpaw on slick grass could be enough wild card to trump the Djoker.
     
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    This dude Donald is HOT right now. at this rate he could reach top 10 and fulfill his potential. and I still don't see him winning a major or 1000 event. when he was Junior, every expert under the sun said he is going to win at least one major. lol
     
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    Does Djoker want to win this match? His peers (Nadal, Fed, Murray, Stan) are all taking it easy, he's out in the rain . . . he might decide that he's had enough and not put up a huge fight. I can't think of a top 5 player who ever won a tournament the week before except Stan did win in Geneva the week before FO.
     
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    For Djokovic, it all about building up confidence into Wimbledon. For Donald it about getting a win against top 5 player!
     
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    Stan lost early in Geneva in '15.
     
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    amor y paz prevails 6-2 7-6(9). One break each in the very close second set.
     

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