kike_valerin
Professional
i dont have problems with the Grommets
maybe i will have to shop 10 Grommets
maybe i will have to shop 10 Grommets
***The Donnay Pro One Int'l MP Club***
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matchmaker
Hall of Fame
Only 3 stringjobs???
My grommets have gone well beyond that point and they still look great.
dreydey
Semi-Pro
Only 3 stringjobs???
maybe the international grommets are different than the oversize grommets the OS grommets look like they dont last long at all after one stringjob by the way matchmaker how many of the Donnay pro one international do you have
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goosala
Hall of Fame
I have never measured the balance of both frames but I would say that the Donnay definitely has more weight in the head vs. the Volkl frame. All of the Volkl frames I have hit with are very headlight. For me the Donnay has enough weight in the head so that I don't have to use lead tape to get more stability. It's perfectly weighted for me.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
Mine came in a bit too light but so I did lead them up a little but not too much. I often lead up until about 12.80 oz. But these play well at 12.40/50 oz.
shell
Professional
OK, add me to the club of Pro One International. 
After a couple of weeks of trial and error with the PK Redondo and the Donnay - it is the Donnay. The weight of the Redondo was just too much for me to handle. Somehow the Donnay just breezes through on my 1HB (the weight succeptible wing) and I am hooked.
I played with a Head Graphite Edge for 12 year through the 80's and early 90's, then stopped for 15 years. I have bounced around for a couple of years looking for a racquet that supported my old style play with new style add ons. This seems to be the one.
Now I just have to find a couple more 1/4 grip racquets, as they are out on TW. I worry about the racquet already being discontinued, but if I can get 3 or 4, I'll be set for a long time.
Great racquet, but I am still working on the string issue.
Thanks for all of your comments - I read all of them as I was working through this and it was very helpful.
Am I the only woman that uses this racquet :???:
After a couple of weeks of trial and error with the PK Redondo and the Donnay - it is the Donnay. The weight of the Redondo was just too much for me to handle. Somehow the Donnay just breezes through on my 1HB (the weight succeptible wing) and I am hooked.
I played with a Head Graphite Edge for 12 year through the 80's and early 90's, then stopped for 15 years. I have bounced around for a couple of years looking for a racquet that supported my old style play with new style add ons. This seems to be the one.
Now I just have to find a couple more 1/4 grip racquets, as they are out on TW. I worry about the racquet already being discontinued, but if I can get 3 or 4, I'll be set for a long time.
Great racquet, but I am still working on the string issue.
Thanks for all of your comments - I read all of them as I was working through this and it was very helpful.
Am I the only woman that uses this racquet :???:
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
OK, add me to the club of Pro One International.
After a couple of weeks of trial and error with the PK Redondo and the Donnay - it is the Donnay. The weight of the Redondo was just too much for me to handle. Somehow the Donnay just breezes through on my 1HB (the weight succeptible wing) and I am hooked.
I played with a Head Graphite Edge for 12 year through the 80's and early 90's, then stopped for 15 years. I have bounced around for a couple of years looking for a racquet that supported my old style play with new style add ons. This seems to be the one.
Now I just have to find a couple more 1/4 grip racquets, as they are out on TW. I worry about the racquet already being discontinued, but if I can get 3 or 4, I'll be set for a long time.
Great racquet, but I am still working on the string issue.
Thanks for all of your comments - I read all of them as I was working through this and it was very helpful.
Am I the only woman that uses this racquet :???:
Welcome to the club, nice to have a woman on board. You can read through the thread to see some of the strings that go well with the frame. I would recommend a syn gut, plays well enough, no need for polys to get topspin on this one.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
It is flexy but at the same time firm. You shouldn't worry about it being "noodly" as Breakpoint sometimes says when talking about a too flexy frame such as the C10 pro.
It is stable and doesn't get pushed around at the net nor at the baseline. It seems to have a good weight distribution. With a little lead at 3 and 9 o'clock even better.
Just demo it, it is the best way to tell. I am sure you are gonna like it.
kike_valerin
Professional
My last donnays arrive too my city 
4 donnay pro one international 4 1/4
i will post pics later
4 donnay pro one international 4 1/4
i will post pics later
kike_valerin
Professional
nice
so my collection done
so my collection done
DrumWizOHBD
Semi-Pro
I have FOUR that I have picked up through 4 different sellers in the Classifieds here. Thanks guys!!
They are all (as far as I can tell) exactly the same. I think they are great. They actually look better than the last Wilson prostaff 6.1s i bought brand new over ten years ago. So, I will say that the Donnay MPs seem to be very consistent.
Now, many people have complained of the grommets being weak. The groomets for tie-offs are not really enlarged well(all of mine were already strung, so it's hard to say if they were enlarged at all, new). So, the grommets with the knots DO seem to be weaker than on my other racquets. But really that's my only complaint. One racquet does have a couple split grommets after restringing it once(it was supposedly only strung once before). I just use teflon tubing and it will be fine for months. I weighed out the grommet issue, versus the ultimate racquet for feel, flex and control....and there was no contest. Besides you can replace single grommets these days. Best players racquet for the money IMO if you like a thin beam.
They are all (as far as I can tell) exactly the same. I think they are great. They actually look better than the last Wilson prostaff 6.1s i bought brand new over ten years ago. So, I will say that the Donnay MPs seem to be very consistent.
Now, many people have complained of the grommets being weak. The groomets for tie-offs are not really enlarged well(all of mine were already strung, so it's hard to say if they were enlarged at all, new). So, the grommets with the knots DO seem to be weaker than on my other racquets. But really that's my only complaint. One racquet does have a couple split grommets after restringing it once(it was supposedly only strung once before). I just use teflon tubing and it will be fine for months. I weighed out the grommet issue, versus the ultimate racquet for feel, flex and control....and there was no contest. Besides you can replace single grommets these days. Best players racquet for the money IMO if you like a thin beam.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
One of my grommets just broke. I am guessing the graphite edge of the frame will cut through the strings quite soon.
DrumWizOHBD,
Where do you get those teflon tubes? I mailed TW and they don't have any grommet sets.
DrumWizOHBD,
Where do you get those teflon tubes? I mailed TW and they don't have any grommet sets.
i would file down the hole and fill with some epoxy to get by...
good luck..
phamster
Sorry for the lack of knowledge but I wondered if someone might tell me about the quality (or otherwise) of the Donnay Pro No One Limited Edition OS (purple and blue cosmetics)... pros and cons... serve/groundies/maneuverability/feel... and with what other frame might it share a few characteristics?
Plus also, how much do ppl pay for what I believe to be an original, untouched and still wrapped, early-'nineties model?
Cheers - R.
Plus also, how much do ppl pay for what I believe to be an original, untouched and still wrapped, early-'nineties model?
Cheers - R.
teppeiahn1
Rookie
Count me in.
I love the Donnay Int. because I can feel the ball on my string. The specs are perfect for my game. I also love serving with this stick. Especialy the 2nd serve, I kick it up to around 4-5 feet consistantly with good pace. This racquet does lack power so people who can't produce fast racquet speed should stick with powered frame such as Bablats.
I love the Donnay Int. because I can feel the ball on my string. The specs are perfect for my game. I also love serving with this stick. Especialy the 2nd serve, I kick it up to around 4-5 feet consistantly with good pace. This racquet does lack power so people who can't produce fast racquet speed should stick with powered frame such as Bablats.
kike_valerin
Professional
it's strange ...
i dont have that problem on my donnays with the grommets
i think it's only on the Pro one Oversize
i dont have that problem on my donnays with the grommets
i think it's only on the Pro one Oversize
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dunlop1857
Guest
Count me in this club
I'm in with a bunch of Pro One Int'l mids.
I'm in with a bunch of Pro One Int'l mids.
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dunlop1857
Guest
My experience with the Pro One mid is as follows...
I started out playing with the Donnay Pro Cynetic 1 in the mid 80's. I "graduated" to the Pro One in the early 90's when I switched to a one-handed backhand. The Pro One mid is a true player's stick. In college I switched between the PS 85/95 and the POG mid... to no avail I went back to the Donnays. I really believe the Pro One is more maneuverable and absorbs vibration better than the POG or PS. The Donnay is an even balanced stick unlike the PS and POG which I find are more head-heavy which can lead to elbow problems.
I recently purchased 4 more Donnay mids from TW and I've found that they pretty much have the same set up as my old Pro One's from the 90s. I have my new Donnays strung with "Pearl Zone 17" string from Klippermate
at 50 lbs.
I've experimented with lead and different tensions for this stick over the years and I've come to the conclusion that with a multifilliment 17gauge string at or around 50 lbs. is the best set up for your arm and shoulder using this racquet.
I started out playing with the Donnay Pro Cynetic 1 in the mid 80's. I "graduated" to the Pro One in the early 90's when I switched to a one-handed backhand. The Pro One mid is a true player's stick. In college I switched between the PS 85/95 and the POG mid... to no avail I went back to the Donnays. I really believe the Pro One is more maneuverable and absorbs vibration better than the POG or PS. The Donnay is an even balanced stick unlike the PS and POG which I find are more head-heavy which can lead to elbow problems.
I recently purchased 4 more Donnay mids from TW and I've found that they pretty much have the same set up as my old Pro One's from the 90s. I have my new Donnays strung with "Pearl Zone 17" string from Klippermate
I've experimented with lead and different tensions for this stick over the years and I've come to the conclusion that with a multifilliment 17gauge string at or around 50 lbs. is the best set up for your arm and shoulder using this racquet.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
it's strange ...
i dont have that problem on my donnays with the grommets
i think it's only on the Pro one Oversize
Nope, I have a midplus and many other users have had the same complaints. I would advise not to string with polys or make hybrids. Probably a syn gut or a multi can avoid grommet breakage better.
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dunlop1857
Guest
Try fle****...
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
BREAKING NEWS
TW IS GOING TO BRING IN NEW GROMMET SETS
Thank God, I am saved.
TW IS GOING TO BRING IN NEW GROMMET SETS
Thank God, I am saved.
ericsson
Hall of Fame
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dunlop1857
Guest
Thank you Chris from TW
Chris from TW has sent me replacement gromments in the past few months, however those broke also. Hopefully the new ones will be made stronger with better material. Chris from TW was very helpful!
Chris from TW has sent me replacement gromments in the past few months, however those broke also. Hopefully the new ones will be made stronger with better material. Chris from TW was very helpful!
kike_valerin
Professional
sorry i have of all the 40 donnays TW have on each size
i have 10 on 4 1/4
nice racquet !!!!
DrumWizOHBD
Semi-Pro
TW sells the nylon tubing in lengths of 10 ft. You just cut off what you need. Much cheaper than buying a full set of grommets. YuLittle has a great video on Youtube that demonstrates how to install tubing.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage-TUBING.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=040W5r8F04w&fmt=18
You can usually restring a racquet a couple of times with a cracked or broken grommet before you cause any really serious harm to the frame. However, it does depend on the frame. Some frames are more resilient than others.
Deuce
Banned
^No.
Grommet/bumper sets are typically about $5.
Tubing is typically about $5.
Tubing is meant to be used as a sort of a stop-gap measure - until one gets the proper grommets for the racquet.
^ No. Not at all recommended.
Pulling tension with a broken grommet can severely damage the frame - depending on which grommet it is, and where it is cracked/broken.
Cracked or broken grommets should ALWAYS be repaired with tubing before stringing.
ALWAYS.
DrumWizOHBD
Semi-Pro
Well, to be on the safest of safe sides......i suppose it is a good idea to always at least use tubing before restringing. the link i posted above lists the tubing for $3.50 USD. If you buy the tubing from a hardware supply in bulk, you will pay about 80% less than this. IN college we had a 200 ft spool that costs the team something ridiculous like 12 dollars!
Just speaking from personal experience and almost 15 years of stringing, in which i have broken zero racquets: depending on what the frame is made of, a broken grommet could lead to a keyholing effect in the frame, or lead to.....nothing. You can buy a Prince NXG right now, which doesn't even have grommets. Wood racquets don't have grommets :shock:
I honestly would not recommend stringing without tubing if a grommet is damaged or missing....however, it won't be the end of the world. My first installation of tubing was improperly done, and I hadn't noticed until i restrung the racquet (Prostaff 6.1 Classic). The string had dug a notch in to the frame (keyholing). The frame went on to perform for another ten years..it is now semi-retired since i switched to Donnay.
Just speaking from personal experience and almost 15 years of stringing, in which i have broken zero racquets: depending on what the frame is made of, a broken grommet could lead to a keyholing effect in the frame, or lead to.....nothing. You can buy a Prince NXG right now, which doesn't even have grommets. Wood racquets don't have grommets :shock:
I honestly would not recommend stringing without tubing if a grommet is damaged or missing....however, it won't be the end of the world. My first installation of tubing was improperly done, and I hadn't noticed until i restrung the racquet (Prostaff 6.1 Classic). The string had dug a notch in to the frame (keyholing). The frame went on to perform for another ten years..it is now semi-retired since i switched to Donnay.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
Thanks for the info. I think I will try to stay on the safe side and wait for the new grommets to arrive. Because I noticed that my grommet at the throat is broken and the string is now rubbing against the bare frame. If I were to play I can imagine that: a) nothing goes wrong, b) I get a keyhole in the frame because the string is making its way through the graphite.
Better not to take any risks IMO. As tubes are not available nearby, I will wait for the grommets or do you know where you could get this type of tube except in a tennis store.
Dennis Anyone?
Rookie
Have recently strayed with the AG100, C10, and DNX10--and flirted with the B11, KBlade, MG Prestige, and POG mids--I failed to find a stick that fits my game as well as the Pro One. Excellent replacement for my beloved RDX500. Now to find a string set-up that provides controllable pop for this low-powered frame.
Must say that the new Prestige was tempting. Was concerned with the tight pattern, but it hit a sweet ball. BTW, also preferred the DNX to the B11. Didn't perceive the B11 as easier to swing than the DNX. It just seemed different in the hand. I like the balance of the DNX, though it is a bit of a beast . . . .
Must say that the new Prestige was tempting. Was concerned with the tight pattern, but it hit a sweet ball. BTW, also preferred the DNX to the B11. Didn't perceive the B11 as easier to swing than the DNX. It just seemed different in the hand. I like the balance of the DNX, though it is a bit of a beast . . . .
Interesting...are you talking about the MG prestige mid ? If so, I'd like to know how it compares to the Donnay Pro One int'l in terms of power and feel.
Thanks
Dennis Anyone?
Rookie
Hey crash. Yes, I gave the MG Prestige Mid a quick spin. It was a livelier frame than the Pro One, but the feel for the ball--the amount and quality of the feedback--was unexpectedly similar.
I liked the MG's familiar balance and the moderated, but substantial, pop that I attribute to the its higher degree of stiffness. Swingweights between the two sticks are slightly different, as are head sizes, but these weren't noticeable factors for me. Likewise, I was suprised to find that the MG's tighter string pattern didn't stand out as having positive or negative effects for me. (No additional control or lack of power perceived.)
I felt quite comfortable switching between the MG and Pro One in the same hitting session. I didn't mind the shape of the Head grip that many dislike, and I enjoyed the additional power of the MG. I'll continue on with the Pro One, but think I could easily be tempted by the controllable put-away power of the MG . . . as well as the nice paint!
Thanks for the reply Dennis. You described exactly how I feel with the mg prestige mid (and other prestige mid). They have a nice amount of pop for their small head size and that power is very manageable.
I'd like to know if you tried other frames (not by Head) that had a similar "controllable put-away power" as you mentionned.
I've been playing with the i.prestige mid and pc600 for a long time but I'm now looking for a frame with similar feel and power (maybe a tad more) in maybe a slightly larger and more spin-friendly head size.
I'd like to know if you tried other frames (not by Head) that had a similar "controllable put-away power" as you mentionned.
I've been playing with the i.prestige mid and pc600 for a long time but I'm now looking for a frame with similar feel and power (maybe a tad more) in maybe a slightly larger and more spin-friendly head size.
Dennis Anyone?
Rookie
Have you given the C10 a try? It has a 98" head, offers the best slice backhands I've ever hit, and has a very plush feel. More power than I'm used to--and great for hitting winners when well-struck--but the overall flex is difficult for me to manage (in terms of directional control). Might be worth a look.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
Dennis Anyone? and Crash,
It is amazing how we all gravitate around the same frames. All the frames you guys mentioned are on my list of frames I have played with or would like to play.
I live in a region where no demos are available so I have to buy to try, that is the only reason why I haven't tried them all.
Dennis,
Would you care to elaborate your views on the DNX10 and the BB11 mid. I am interested in these two frames but I am afraid of the artificial feedback that may be given by the strips of DNX material, as opposed to the "old school" feedback of the Donnay.
I have played with the C10 pro and my findings on this frame were the following: it is indeed a powerful stick and strung with multis it can have a sort of loosey goosey feeling. I had to string it with polys to tame the power and to get pinpoint control. It has great spin/slice potential and behaves very well at net. For serve it is better for kick, slice and spin than for flat.IMO.
It is a great frame, I could have used it as a main stick but it does not really play better than the Pro One, it plays at the same level and offers a particular "feel" if you find the right string setup.
Crash,
Could you compare the Pro One to the PC600 and iPrestige.
I have a PC600 coming my way. I just had to try the frame once and I was able to get it at a reasonable price. What string setup do you recommend? I was thinking of stringing it between 53 and 55 lbs with a soft multi a la Wilson Sensation to get a first impression.
It is amazing how we all gravitate around the same frames. All the frames you guys mentioned are on my list of frames I have played with or would like to play.
I live in a region where no demos are available so I have to buy to try, that is the only reason why I haven't tried them all.
Dennis,
Would you care to elaborate your views on the DNX10 and the BB11 mid. I am interested in these two frames but I am afraid of the artificial feedback that may be given by the strips of DNX material, as opposed to the "old school" feedback of the Donnay.
I have played with the C10 pro and my findings on this frame were the following: it is indeed a powerful stick and strung with multis it can have a sort of loosey goosey feeling. I had to string it with polys to tame the power and to get pinpoint control. It has great spin/slice potential and behaves very well at net. For serve it is better for kick, slice and spin than for flat.IMO.
It is a great frame, I could have used it as a main stick but it does not really play better than the Pro One, it plays at the same level and offers a particular "feel" if you find the right string setup.
Crash,
Could you compare the Pro One to the PC600 and iPrestige.
I have a PC600 coming my way. I just had to try the frame once and I was able to get it at a reasonable price. What string setup do you recommend? I was thinking of stringing it between 53 and 55 lbs with a soft multi a la Wilson Sensation to get a first impression.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
I added some of you, the ones who mentioned they play with the Pro One Int'l, to the member list.
I had started this thread a long time ago and for some time it had become a little inactive.
Crash,
About the build quality of the Pro One. It is really good, the paint is great, mine looks just like new.
The weak points are: 1) the cheap grip. You might want to slap a leather grip on it. I have a 4 1/2, which is my maximum grip size and I even tend to like a smidge smaller, say 3.5 or 3.75/8 so I found the best results by putting two overgrips on the bare handle. I also increased the butt cap contour a little as my little finger tended to slide off on serves, I had to put some lead tape anyway to make up for taking away the grip.
2) The grommets are really the weak part. I think this frame plays very well with a syn gut, but you might have concerns with durability. But I think that what makes the grommets break might be the polys, I put a hybrid on and my grommets broke.
Anyway, new grommets come in at TW, so I think I will order a set or three to play safe and have my racquets very carefully strung.
The frame itself, the handle and the paint are very good quality. What is also interesting on this frame is that it is a very good platform for customization. At 340 grams and 320 swingweight there is room for adding lead, without turning it into a log. Everyone will have his/her preferences but I added about 15 grams to the handle and 10 to the hoop spread over 3 and 9 o'clock.
I had started this thread a long time ago and for some time it had become a little inactive.
Crash,
About the build quality of the Pro One. It is really good, the paint is great, mine looks just like new.
The weak points are: 1) the cheap grip. You might want to slap a leather grip on it. I have a 4 1/2, which is my maximum grip size and I even tend to like a smidge smaller, say 3.5 or 3.75/8 so I found the best results by putting two overgrips on the bare handle. I also increased the butt cap contour a little as my little finger tended to slide off on serves, I had to put some lead tape anyway to make up for taking away the grip.
2) The grommets are really the weak part. I think this frame plays very well with a syn gut, but you might have concerns with durability. But I think that what makes the grommets break might be the polys, I put a hybrid on and my grommets broke.
Anyway, new grommets come in at TW, so I think I will order a set or three to play safe and have my racquets very carefully strung.
The frame itself, the handle and the paint are very good quality. What is also interesting on this frame is that it is a very good platform for customization. At 340 grams and 320 swingweight there is room for adding lead, without turning it into a log. Everyone will have his/her preferences but I added about 15 grams to the handle and 10 to the hoop spread over 3 and 9 o'clock.
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Thanks for the reply matchmaker. I'm sorry but i can't compare with the Pro One because I didn't have the chance to hit with it. I live outside the US too and it is almost impossible for me to demo racquets...I'm interested in the Donnay because specwise it looks similar to the pc600.
Concerning the pc600, it is a wonderful racquet IMO. It has good power for a midsize racquet (Dennis described it pretty well) and very good plow-through. The racquet is flexible but not too much, providing good "dwell" time and a very nice feeling. The spin potential is not extraordinary but it is decent for a 90 in racquet.
The only reason I'm considering switching is because Head quality control is awful, my three pc600 are quite different in specs and feeling even after some customization. I also think a larger head size could help me get more pop on my serve and little more spin.
Concerning the strings, I recommend a tension in the lower to mid 50s, 53-55 like you mentionned would be nice for a first try. Concerning the string type, I always play with poly strings but I think a multi would be a good choice, contributing to a very soft feeling. I also recommend a small gauge in this rather dense pattern.
Finally, the iprestige is a good racquet, similar to the pc600 but maybe a little stiffer. Personnaly, I feel the pc600 is a tad better in every department but that's just me.
Hope that helps you a little...
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
Thanks for the reply Crash. Where do you live? I live in Ecuador, racquets are hard to get here, at least players' racquets, and they are incredibly expensive. I prefer buying racquets from TW, however as they do not want to mark things as a gift, they become very expensive after shipping plus taxes. If I want to demo something I try to buy a second hand racquet from a forum member at a decent price.
Anyway, thanks for the advice on the strings. I play with different types of strings according to the racquet. I am not a poly fan but on some racquets poly feels great and even quite soft, e.g. on the C10 it helps to tame the power and get a uniform string response.
On the Donnay I prefer a syn gut at 58, say in 16g. Although there might be issues with the durability. So I now have them strung with a poly/syn gut hybrid, but I think that is what made my grommets crack.
Anyway, I will follow your advice and string in the 53-55 range, which would be rather lowish for me on other racquets. I believe it is important to start low on a new racquet. One would not want to play with a board when testing a racquet for the first time. I think I will go with Wilson Sensation, a soft multifilament good as a test string., maybe in 17g, although I always use 16g for multis; 17g is what I use for polys.
As soon as I have a decent opinion on the PC600 I will write a comparative review myself.
Dennis Anyone?
Rookie
matchmaker, thanks for the C10 string info. I'll try a poly the next time around.
The DNX10 and B11 deliver high-tech smoothness, whereas the Pro One's feel is more low-tech and raw. Both feel muted, but in different ways. The Donnay achieves its feel to via its fiberglass content and stripped-down technology. The Volkl/Becker produce theirs with swingweight and DNX. As a Pro One devotee, I found much to like about the DNX--except the swingweight. Great stick, just not great for my game (or ability?) . . . .
The DNX10 and B11 deliver high-tech smoothness, whereas the Pro One's feel is more low-tech and raw. Both feel muted, but in different ways. The Donnay achieves its feel to via its fiberglass content and stripped-down technology. The Volkl/Becker produce theirs with swingweight and DNX. As a Pro One devotee, I found much to like about the DNX--except the swingweight. Great stick, just not great for my game (or ability?) . . . .
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
Crash, I just got my PC600. It looks beautiful, but that things seems a pain in the *** to string. Do you string yourself? What pattern do you use?